In Hand Images: Transformers Asia Exclusive Henkei / Classics Ultra Magnus
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Posted by PrymeStriker on September 13th, 2012 @ 4:01pm CDT
Posted by Blurrz on September 13th, 2012 @ 4:02pm CDT
white shirt
walked into the room
you know you make my eyes burn
Posted by Skullcrunchberries on September 13th, 2012 @ 4:14pm CDT
Robot mode: Classics. Aside from the gun and the paint apps on the head, Henkei just looks too plain. And the fact that the thighs are painted but the knee joint is black plastic bothers me for some reason.
Overall: A fantastic choice, especially for people who weren't able to nab the Classics version. Curious to see if there's any noticeable differences with CC Armor. As for me though, unnecessary. Still, kudos!
Posted by DevastaTTor on September 13th, 2012 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on September 13th, 2012 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by grimdragon2001 on September 13th, 2012 @ 5:30pm CDT
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Posted by KNM2012 on September 13th, 2012 @ 5:43pm CDT
Posted by Swindle01 on September 13th, 2012 @ 5:44pm CDT
its not that hard to take a decent high quality picture - flash off - decent light source - macro on - steady focus on
from what i can see of these pics henkei magnus just looks terrible. He looks like some kinda KO the factory couldnt be arsed to finish adding the final paint applications to
The figure is just TOO white and looks unfinished. The classics version just looks miles better than the late henkei version. The white legs the completely white arms...it just looks unfinished. Only thing the henkei one has over the classics one is the blue face plate but again you can fix this yourself by getting the FP city commander stickers from reprolabels
the henkei 1 is way way to late and just doesnt look that good. I cant justify spending cash on this when theres far far superior 3rd party stuff coming out like the ko shadow scythe kit or the new insecticons etc
Posted by Sodan-1 on September 13th, 2012 @ 5:48pm CDT
Posted by grimdragon2001 on September 13th, 2012 @ 5:53pm CDT
Posted by KNM2012 on September 13th, 2012 @ 6:17pm CDT
Swindle01 wrote:nice blurred photos with the flash on .....
its not that hard to take a decent high quality picture - flash off - decent light source - macro on - steady focus on
from what i can see of these pics henkei magnus just looks terrible. He looks like some kinda KO the factory couldnt be arsed to finish adding the final paint applications to
The figure is just TOO white and looks unfinished. The classics version just looks miles better than the late henkei version. The white legs the completely white arms...it just looks unfinished. Only thing the henkei one has over the classics one is the blue face plate but again you can fix this yourself by getting the FP city commander stickers from reprolabels
the henkei 1 is way way to late and just doesnt look that good. I cant justify spending cash on this when theres far far superior 3rd party stuff coming out like the ko shadow scythe kit or the new insecticons etc
How about this for justification?
In the Dreamwave G1 continuity, Ultra Magnus shed his armor and looked like a G1 version of this figure. The second Masterpiece figure was a G1 version of this character. In the Binaltech/Alternity version of G1, he also shed his armor in order to use the Matrix of Leadership prior to defeating Unicron... And he also looked like the G1 version of this.
The Alternity version (sold at the Transformers China Carnival, and also by e-HOBBY) was this color scheme. As was the Revoltech variant of Convoy, which was based on the Dreamwave version, was this same color scheme. And all because... You guessed it... The robot that resides underneath the armor is that color scheme.
Here is an example on what I am talking about:
But yeah... If that is not convincing enough, consider the fact that this could result in the making of a new "City Commander" armor set for this figure. I know that there are others out there that are.
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on September 13th, 2012 @ 6:21pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:blue jeans
white shirt
walked into the room
you know you make my eyes burn
Top tier. :brofist:
Posted by Swindle01 on September 13th, 2012 @ 6:31pm CDT
I mean in G1 the cab merged into ultra magnus. The cab was just a cab for vehicle mode. The toy was a copy of prime because it was probably easier to do it that way (because originally he was diaclone powered convoy remember) and the MP magnus we got was just a white prime because Takara couldnt be arsed to give us a proper magnus with the armour
I just dont see the point in this henkei release when they KNOW people would rather spend there money on something better such as Hercules or MT devastator or hegemon etc. If takara want my money when it comes to classics etc then there seriously gona need to step up instead of giving me a lame crappy repaint of a figure whos...what? 3+ somert years old now?
I mean jesus christ Hegemon blows the crap outa classics megatron, anyone else notice henkei megatrons price seriously drop since hegemon came out? if a 3rd party company thats smaller than hasbro or takara can do BETTER than hasbro or takara themselves then isnt that kinda saying something?
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 13th, 2012 @ 6:40pm CDT
Here's a beautiful custom someone did. I would import this figure in a minute.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-ima ... ra+Magnus/
Posted by KNM2012 on September 13th, 2012 @ 7:04pm CDT
Swindle01 wrote:kuma its not really the same is it....
I mean in G1 the cab merged into ultra magnus. The cab was just a cab for vehicle mode. The toy was a copy of prime because it was probably easier to do it that way (because originally he was diaclone powered convoy remember) and the MP magnus we got was just a white prime because Takara couldnt be arsed to give us a proper magnus with the armour
I know. However, when it comes to Ultra Magnus' G1 history, it was very much rumored that he was also reformatted by Alpha Trion. So underneath his armor, he looks like Convoy/Optimus Prime. This was one part of Magnus and Convoy being "brothers."
As for the figures, he was done "sans armor" in 1985 and 1987. Plus, the 2004 Masterpiece was not "half-assed"... But rather a revelation that the designer was more or less inspired by the Dreamwave version of the character. But even then, they have recently announced that another MP version of Ultra Magnus will include his armor.
Swindle01 wrote:I just dont see the point in this henkei release when they KNOW people would rather spend there money on something better such as Hercules or MT devastator or hegemon etc. If takara want my money when it comes to classics etc then there seriously gona need to step up instead of giving me a lame crappy repaint of a figure whos...what? 3+ somert years old now?
You don't see it because you don't want it. You need to remember that your reasons to not get it do not reflect anything beyond that. However, this is an Asian market release. There is no real confirmation if it will be a Henkei! piece... Yet. And even if it is or isn't, it is primarily targeted at those who collect Ultra Magnus figures... As well as any others that want to buy it for their reasons.
Swindle01 wrote:I mean jesus christ Hegemon blows the crap outa classics megatron, anyone else notice henkei megatrons price seriously drop since hegemon came out? if a 3rd party company thats smaller than hasbro or takara can do BETTER than hasbro or takara themselves then isnt that kinda saying something?
Again... Your opinion. So lets use your view on this item with what you praised: "Why would somebody want to buy a third-party product when it contributes nothing to the Transformers fanbase? They are overpriced, and have no real value outside of what these companies are charging. I can buy numerous pieces that will have a higher demand and resale value, and I am also talking about reissues. So why buy third party when I can get the real deal for less?"
Point being is simple: People will buy it to add to their Ultra Magnus collection, to have a Ultra Magnus figure, modifications, in order to use third-party add-ons, to add to their Transformers collection, display pieces, and/or to have an affordable piece to play with.
Posted by Sentinel Maximus on September 13th, 2012 @ 7:05pm CDT
The Henkei version is a good alternative for those who where unable to get Classics.
Posted by KNM2012 on September 13th, 2012 @ 7:07pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:The thing is, thanks to the different transformation scheme, it is possible to paint the robot like Ultra Magnus' outer armor (only the top chest would have to remain white). Couple that with a new head and this would be a wonderful Ultra Mangnus figure that didn't need add ons.
Here's a beautiful custom someone did. I would import this figure in a minute.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-ima ... ra+Magnus/
Dude! Love the mod!
Sentinel Maximus wrote:Classics all the way
The Henkei version is a good alternative for those who where unable to get Classics.
^ This. It adds to the many reasons to get this piece.
Posted by Mkall on September 13th, 2012 @ 7:43pm CDT
Posted by Mekatron on September 13th, 2012 @ 8:21pm CDT
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Posted by KNM2012 on September 14th, 2012 @ 1:35am CDT
Stockade wrote:You know i just don't understand some people, i mean everyone wants a certain Transformer produced or made and Hasbro and Takara comes through for us from time to time. And then yes we're glad they made it, but its not up too par, like not enough articulation, the wrong weapon(s) or just the wrong damn color, the wrong size, the list goes on and on. And now we have Ultra Magnus in the right colors, and in the right G1 colors that i remember back from the 80s, but yet people are really tearing this mold apart cause now UM is too white and too plain? I mean i use to have a G1 UM as a kid yes i loved the armor he came with, but hell have of the time i didnt put it on him, i just like him white and looked great with OP and the other autobots. And even someone said that UM dropped his armor in the comics and he is all white in there too? All i can say is, yes i have the classics version of this mold and its pretty good, but for me i'd rather have one close to the G1 version as possible so ill keep mine on pre-order and i will say that he will a nice edition to the Autobot Team.
There is a saying I have that goes, "When you cannot look past your own views on things, then you are not seeing the whole world as it is." Meaning that when it comes to preferences and beliefs, not everybody looks past their own.
Myself, I am constantly contemplating on adding/seeking characters and series that may fit what I am going for when it comes to my collection. But even then, I always try to keep my preferences separate from my opinion on items. Because I personally like series-accurate reissues, while others prefer the vintage sets.
As for this item - and the fact I brought up the comic - I hear you on the subject. Currently, I have justified myself on not ordering it (yet) as I am wondering if they will have it be a Henkei! piece or not. If it is a Henkei! piece, then I might even though I am not sure how I would feel having him instead of of trying to obtain Skyfire.
So yeah... I'll stop right there since this is making me rethink the idea of seeking out Supreme Commanders that also existed between Fight! to Headmasters, since I am already collecting/seeking other Cybertron Commanders. And the idea kinda hurts my brain more than it does my wallet, BTW.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on September 14th, 2012 @ 2:07am CDT
Posted by synthetik on September 14th, 2012 @ 3:08am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on September 14th, 2012 @ 3:45am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 14th, 2012 @ 5:49am CDT
grimdragon2001 wrote:on second thought, im cancelling my preorder, my Magnus is fine
You're not the only one who thought his Classics Magnus had yellowed. As a matter of fact his plastic colors were never truly white, closer to being cream, but looks whitish under certain lights.
Posted by XDMan on September 15th, 2012 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on October 4th, 2012 @ 12:48am CDT
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:08am CDT
But seriously, though... I am going to pass simply because it is part of the UNITED line. And even if it was not, I'd still have to pass on it. There is one Encore piece I now plan to seek for my Headmasters collection, and another I plan to preorder.
That, and I am seriously hoping that they are not going to abandon their Cybertron/Destron lineage.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 4th, 2012 @ 2:36am CDT
Posted by xyl360 on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:08am CDT
Banjo-Tron wrote:I'm excited for this guy to arrive now On a related note, does anyone have the Black Convoy that came out recently, and if so, how is the mould holding up? I thought that it was toast then along comes Black Convoy and now this, is there any noticeable degradation?
I have Black Convoy. He seems fine to me .
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:11am CDT
xyl360 wrote:Banjo-Tron wrote:I'm excited for this guy to arrive now On a related note, does anyone have the Black Convoy that came out recently, and if so, how is the mould holding up? I thought that it was toast then along comes Black Convoy and now this, is there any noticeable degradation?
I have Black Convoy. He seems fine to me .
That's good to hear I was worried also that City Commander wouldn't fit properly. Don't suppose you have tried Shadow commander or something with him?
Posted by xyl360 on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:08am CDT
Banjo-Tron wrote:xyl360 wrote:Banjo-Tron wrote:I'm excited for this guy to arrive now On a related note, does anyone have the Black Convoy that came out recently, and if so, how is the mould holding up? I thought that it was toast then along comes Black Convoy and now this, is there any noticeable degradation?
I have Black Convoy. He seems fine to me .
That's good to hear I was worried also that City Commander wouldn't fit properly. Don't suppose you have tried Shadow commander or something with him?
Nope, I haven't (don't have Shadow Commander). I'll try my extra DIA Commander (currently in trailer mode being pulled by one of my Henkei Prime's ) and let you know how it fits.
Posted by xyl360 on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:19am CDT
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:34am CDT
xyl360 wrote:Well, I just tested it and the armor fits on Black Convoy just fine. No looseness anywhere at all .
Good news, thanks for checking! Can't wait to get Magnus in hand and suited up
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:03am CDT
Now with, MP-10B Black convoy. I see a Scourge Vibe in this... Another Asian Exclusive?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:25am CDT
Though... why didn't they just call it "United Ultra Magnus" from the start?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:34am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, so it's a United figure. All previous promotions for it made it sound like this would be some completely unique, standalone toy not part of of any existing toyline due to it being referred to as "Classics Ultra Magnus" (when TakaraTomy never had a line called "Classics") instead of "United Ultra Magnus". now it makes sense.
Though... why didn't they just call it "United Ultra Magnus" from the start?
How much do you wanna bet it's United for Japan, but a stand-alone release for Asia region?
Posted by Megatron000 on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:55am CDT
gavinfuzzy wrote:There seems to be many Black Convoys coming out this year...
Now with, MP-10B Black convoy. I see a Scourge Vibe in this... Another Asian Exclusive?
Wow, that Black Convoy looks awesome. Definitely hoping it's not an Asian exclusive... :S
Posted by XDMan on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:40pm CDT
Scourge!? It's Black Convoy (or Nemesis Prime, if you want ) It looks so dumb to name him that! Seriously? RID is starting to be over-used. And Armada, Energon and Cybertron? Those names and this so called Unicron Trilogy plot don't make any sense, unlike Car Robots (you could name it as Transformers: 2000 if you want), Micron Legend (or Mini-Con Legends, if you want), Super Link and Galaxy Force. And by the way, keep GL away from ML and SL! They don't make a good trilogy!Megatron000 wrote:gavinfuzzy wrote:There seems to be many Black Convoys coming out this year...
Now with, MP-10B Black convoy. I see a Scourge Vibe in this... Another Asian Exclusive?
Wow, that Black Convoy looks awesome. Definitely hoping it's not an Asian exclusive... :S
Posted by PrymeStriker on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:21pm CDT
XDMan wrote:Scourge!? It's Black Convoy (or Nemesis Prime, if you want ) It looks so dumb to name him that!
But...his name in RID is Scourge. The only he's named Nemesis Prime in a show is in Armada and Prime.
Okay, the times he's named Nemesis Prime outnumber the times he's been named Scourge, but some prefer calling him Scourge, don't force people to call him Black Convoy (or Nemesis Prime).
Seriously? RID is starting to be over-used.
Hardly.
Posted by Rated X on October 6th, 2012 @ 5:48pm CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Well, I'll be darn! It looks like they did the smart move by making it a UNITED figure, and not trying to revive their Henkei! Henkei! line!
But seriously, though... I am going to pass simply because it is part of the UNITED line.
Im not sure I understand your logic. You base purchase decisions on silly Japanese names written on cardboard ???
Posted by fenrir72 on October 7th, 2012 @ 7:47am CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Well, I'll be darn! It looks like they did the smart move by making it a UNITED figure, and not trying to revive their Henkei! Henkei! line!
But seriously, though... I am going to pass simply because it is part of the UNITED line. And even if it was not, I'd still have to pass on it. There is one Encore piece I now plan to seek for my Headmasters collection, and another I plan to preorder.
That, and I am seriously hoping that they are not going to abandon their Cybertron/Destron lineage.
What's wrong its being a United release?
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 7th, 2012 @ 12:35pm CDT
Posted by Anonymous on October 10th, 2012 @ 3:17am CDT
Banjo-Tron wrote:Because United is evidently not collectable enough for serious collectors for some reason Anyhoo, not that MP-10 mould has much to do with CHUG Magnus anyway, but yeah I would only consider the distinctively different-looking Laser Optimus Prime recolour and its recent homage as Scourge, I think in every other case Black Prime has been either Nemesis Prime, Black Convoy, or Eldedroid. Not that it really matters to argue about, I guess. Probably should just delete this and forget it, then, but I can't be bothered.
i just wanted to comment on that awesome image of Prime you have there.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 10th, 2012 @ 3:57am CDT
breakdown99 wrote:
i just wanted to comment on that awesome image of Prime you have there.
Thanks! I have some sets in flickr you might like. The sig is cropped from one of those.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexshepherd/sets/72157627585510134/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexshepherd/sets/72157627836744062/
Anyone got Magnus in hand yet?
Posted by Banjo-Tron on October 26th, 2012 @ 1:42pm CDT
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