In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-21 Bumblebee
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Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2014 @ 5:55am CDT
I wasnt really bothered by Bumblebee before but now I am looking forward to a Bumblebee figure.
Posted by Trikeboy on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:20am CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:22am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:Please tell me that is a badly painted prototype. Also, that wheel may be accurate to the character but it looks ridiculous.
It does have that hand painted look about it, doesnt it. Was thinking the same thing.
Posted by megatronus on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:39am CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:46am CDT
Posted by Trikeboy on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:48am CDT
megatronus wrote:I still have a twinge of regret that this is the licensed vehicle, not-accurate-to-the-cartoon alt mode, but he is looking nice.
I know how you feel. They may have been able to do more with it and lessen that backpack if they went with the animation alt mode but that was probably part of the deal to secure the rights for the character in the Masterpiece line.
Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:49am CDT
Posted by Trikeboy on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:52am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Leaves the door open for a 3rd party animation accurate model I suppose.
Toyworld Bii. It is also in the same scale as the official Bumblebee. I don't have Bii because I want the official one but Bii does look nice.
Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:55am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:Toyworld Bii. It is also in the same scale as the official Bumblebee. I don't have Bii because I want the official one but Bii does look nice.
Oh, there you go! Hmm, looks odd though. Think I prefer Mp Bumblebee. I should think most people will display him in Bot mode anyway.
Posted by Trikeboy on October 23rd, 2014 @ 6:57am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Trikeboy wrote:Toyworld Bii. It is also in the same scale as the official Bumblebee. I don't have Bii because I want the official one but Bii does look nice.
Oh, there you go! Hmm, looks odd though. Think I prefer Mp Bumblebee. I should think most people will display him in Bot mode anyway.
Yeah, it's missing some paint apps, remove the blue windows and a new head to be considered decent. I'd rather just get the MP BB. It's not like I'm gonna display the back of it anyway.
Posted by megatronus on October 23rd, 2014 @ 7:12am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:Ravage XK wrote:Trikeboy wrote:Toyworld Bii. It is also in the same scale as the official Bumblebee. I don't have Bii because I want the official one but Bii does look nice.
Oh, there you go! Hmm, looks odd though. Think I prefer Mp Bumblebee. I should think most people will display him in Bot mode anyway.
Yeah, it's missing some paint apps, remove the blue windows and a new head to be considered decent. I'd rather just get the MP BB. It's not like I'm gonna display the back of it anyway.
Bii gets the alt mode more or less right, but the mode has several inaccuracies. I would consider Bii for Classics, but not my MP shelf (not that I buy 3rd Party MPs - just the opposite, I actively resist them).
Posted by Trikeboy on October 23rd, 2014 @ 7:30am CDT
megatronus wrote:(not that I buy 3rd Party MPs - just the opposite, I actively resist them).
I can understand that, though, Fanstoys work is incredible and they are doing characters that would be unlikely to get a release officially.
Posted by megatronus on October 23rd, 2014 @ 7:35am CDT
Trikeboy wrote:megatronus wrote:(not that I buy 3rd Party MPs - just the opposite, I actively resist them).
I can understand that, though, Fanstoys work is incredible and they are doing characters that would be unlikely to get a release officially.
FT's best work has been Quakewave, and I can see Takara putting an official Shockwave out in the next couple years (or I'm hoping for it, at least).
The Dinobots are cool, but don't quite hit the right cylinders for me. Dunno if we get official MPs of those characters, but right now my Dinobot priorities fall along Classics/Generations lines.
Posted by robotmel on October 23rd, 2014 @ 7:44am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 8:03am CDT
This selection of images gives us a good look at the figure's transformation trough various views and comparison shots with other Masterpiece car figures. You can see more here.
Posted by reluctantyouth on October 23rd, 2014 @ 8:07am CDT
If he was completely made of metal I'd be all over it. This is another MP sadly that I will wait for a KO version for half the price. Haters gonna hate...but this economy doesn't warrant full retail for this Bumblebee release.
Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2014 @ 8:09am CDT
Posted by Seibertron on October 23rd, 2014 @ 8:16am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 23rd, 2014 @ 8:49am CDT
reluctantyouth wrote:This is another MP sadly that I will wait for a KO version for half the price. Haters gonna hate...
Congratulations on encouraging Takara to not continue the line.
Posted by Cobotron on October 23rd, 2014 @ 9:00am CDT
Other than that, I'm excited.
Finally, a BB update that's a VW. I've waited, what, i dunno, 30 years for that?
Posted by Rated X on October 23rd, 2014 @ 9:05am CDT
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on October 23rd, 2014 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2014 @ 9:17am CDT
You mean like how that old cartoon you hold to such a high regard was?Rated X wrote: Unless of course youre into that silly vintage toy scale penny racer crap. Just my opinion.
Posted by shajaki on October 23rd, 2014 @ 9:31am CDT
call me a dreamer, but i bet we'll see MP dinobots someday. once they finish the season 1 car bots, they either have to start season 2 guys or make us some dinobotsmegatronus wrote:Dunno if we get official MPs of those characters, but right now my Dinobot priorities fall along Classics/Generations lines.
Posted by padfoo on October 23rd, 2014 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by megatronus on October 23rd, 2014 @ 10:04am CDT
shajaki wrote:call me a dreamer, but i bet we'll see MP dinobots someday. once they finish the season 1 car bots, they either have to start season 2 guys or make us some dinobotsmegatronus wrote:Dunno if we get official MPs of those characters, but right now my Dinobot priorities fall along Classics/Generations lines.
I don't think you're a dreamer, but I'm not sure you'll see it so soon (people might say the same thing about my hope for Shockwave). Especially since they opened up the cans of worms that are Ultra Magnus and Star Saber, I don't know if we can rely on them to stick to Season 1 or 2 bots in the near future.
Posted by BLUDGEON on October 23rd, 2014 @ 10:10am CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 23rd, 2014 @ 10:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You mean like how that old cartoon you hold to such a high regard was?Rated X wrote: Unless of course youre into that silly vintage toy scale penny racer crap. Just my opinion.
For the most part, Bumblebee and the rest of the minibots came up to Primes waist level in the cartoon. (yes I know there were some anomalies) But that vintage toy scale where the mini bots only come up to Primes kneecaps is just stupid. I hate the toy scale, always did, always will. While the cartoon was far from perfect, it attempted to correct a lot of things that looked bad in the toy line. The season 1 lineup was mashed together from a bunch of different Japanese toy lines of different sizes. So tweaking the scale in the cartoon made sense. It gave it a more realistic vibe.
Posted by Siger on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:02am CDT
Correction, 4 inch figure...
Posted by Dead Metal on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:14am CDT
shajaki wrote:that comment was funny, but directly followed by your sig is pricelessDead Metal wrote:Now that's a much more attractive looking crotch.
Hahaha, Freudian.
Wow, he's smaller than I thought he'd be, but then again, he comes with a Spike in armor that's almost as big as him.
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:18am CDT
Posted by Flashwave on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:19am CDT
Posted by happylock on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:38am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:48am CDT
How come a few people already have it?
Posted by wilcosu35 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by Kibble on October 23rd, 2014 @ 12:13pm CDT
Siger wrote:I'm not paying $70+ bucks for a barely 5 inch figure.
Correction, 4 inch figure...
Me either...I ordered mine from Japan for like $39 instead.
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 23rd, 2014 @ 12:25pm CDT
Kibble wrote:
Me either...I ordered mine from Japan for like $39 instead.
From where, and how much was shipping?
I preordered from BBTS, but if there's a cheaper option, I'd love to know.
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 12:27pm CDT
Kibble wrote:Siger wrote:I'm not paying $70+ bucks for a barely 5 inch figure.
Correction, 4 inch figure...
Me either...I ordered mine from Japan for like $39 instead.
Yeah but how much is the shipping?
Posted by Sabrblade on October 23rd, 2014 @ 12:41pm CDT
Three kidneys, an acre of land, and a goat.william-james88 wrote:Kibble wrote:Siger wrote:I'm not paying $70+ bucks for a barely 5 inch figure.
Correction, 4 inch figure...
Me either...I ordered mine from Japan for like $39 instead.
Yeah but how much is the shipping?
Posted by Dead Metal on October 23rd, 2014 @ 2:17pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Kibble wrote:
Me either...I ordered mine from Japan for like $39 instead.
From where, and how much was shipping?
I preordered from BBTS, but if there's a cheaper option, I'd love to know.
hlj.com
Shipping depends on how fast and heavy.
Wheeljack's shipping cost me about 18 us for 7 day shipping, but that was to Germany.
Posted by mblase75 on October 23rd, 2014 @ 2:29pm CDT
Posted by Siger on October 23rd, 2014 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 23rd, 2014 @ 2:55pm CDT
Siger wrote:I think he meant $37 Euros? It's $47 USD on HLJ. Plus shipping, it'll still come out to $60.
HLJ isn't taking any more preorders, but it was priced at $55.60. Int'l shipping would cost at least $15, so it would be $70 shipped.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
The only way anyone is getting this for $39 is if it's a knock-off. Even in Japan it costs more than that.
Posted by Evil Eye on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:04pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You mean like how that old cartoon you hold to such a high regard was?Rated X wrote: Unless of course youre into that silly vintage toy scale penny racer crap. Just my opinion.
Sabrblade, you hit the nail on the head. Also, X, is EVERYTHING that doesn't conform to your extremely narrow view "silly crap"?
For the most part, Bumblebee and the rest of the minibots came up to Primes waist level in the cartoon. (yes I know there were some anomalies)
SOME anomalies? The minibot's heights were completely all over the place. They NEVER stayed consistent- ever. Sometimes Bumblebee came up to Prime's chest, sometimes he came up to his knees. And whenever he transformed he seemed to go to "normal" car size (albeit with penny-racer proportions) despite being only slightly taller than a human normally. Seaspray was often depicted as the same height as Bumblebee in robot mode...and then the size of a normal hovercraft in vehicle mode. Sometimes. Warpath meanwhile seems to go from a decidedly non-Mini robot mode to a normal sized (and thus very large) tank.
But focusing on Bumblebee...
...Seen here barely bigger than a guy in a wheelchair...
...And here only somewhat larger than Ravage...
...And yet here roughly the size of an actual VW Beetle.
But that vintage toy scale where the mini bots only come up to Primes kneecaps is just stupid.
You mean the scale the cartoon actually used (most of the time)?
I hate the toy scale, always did, always will. While the cartoon was far from perfect, it attempted to correct a lot of things that looked bad in the toy line.
And yet whenever anyone tries to correct anything that looked bad in the cartoon (like Megatron turning into a goddamn handgun, the equivalent of Darth Vader turning into his own lightsaber for a Storm Trooper to hold) then you call it "silly crap".
By your logic, G1 is a horrible, heretical work that ruined Diaclone and Microman forever, changing Cosmo Countach's iconic red deco, giving Cherry Vanette a head instead of the COMPULSORY chair, and totally taking a dump over the source material by making them sentient robots instead of piloted mecha. G1 ruined Diaclone and Microman forever and raped thousands of Japanese children's childhoods forever.
The season 1 lineup was mashed together from a bunch of different Japanese toy lines of different sizes. So tweaking the scale in the cartoon made sense. It gave it a more realistic vibe.
>G1 cartoon
>Realistic
I do not have a laughing image macro mocking enough for this.
But damnit I'm going to try.
...Ahem.
Anyways, this guy looks great. I'd actually love him for my "normal" collection as he looks pretty good next to deluxe cars. I kinda wish they gave him his penny racer proportions, but saying that, the Choro-Q look probably doensn't look quite as good at that size as it does on a penny-sized figure. Also engineering and all.
In any case, I love 'im.
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:12pm CDT
Posted by Siger on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:15pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Siger wrote:I think he meant $37 Euros? It's $47 USD on HLJ. Plus shipping, it'll still come out to $60.
HLJ isn't taking any more preorders, but it was priced at $55.60. Int'l shipping would cost at least $15, so it would be $70 shipped.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
The only way anyone is getting this for $39 is if it's a knock-off. Even in Japan it costs more than that.
No, if you highlight the price it's 47.26, shipping in my experience was about $12 for 1/100 Hi Nu Gundam. So Bumblebee can't be heavier than that huge box. It should come out to about $60.
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:18pm CDT
Siger wrote:No, if you highlight the price it's 47.26, shipping in my experience was about $12 for 1/100 Hi Nu Gundam. So Bumblebee can't be heavier than that huge box. It should come out to about $60.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
I see $55.60
The price is 6000 Yen. At the current exchange rate, that's about $55.40
https://www.google.com/search?q=6000+yen
Regarless, the point remains the same: you can't get it for less than $40.
Posted by Dead Metal on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:43pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Siger wrote:No, if you highlight the price it's 47.26, shipping in my experience was about $12 for 1/100 Hi Nu Gundam. So Bumblebee can't be heavier than that huge box. It should come out to about $60.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
I see $55.60
The price is 6000 Yen. At the current exchange rate, that's about $55.40
https://www.google.com/search?q=6000+yen
Regarless, the point remains the same: you can't get it for less than $40.
We got it at pre-order prices. HLJ, like most Japanese based retailers have "early bird" pre-order prices that are below actual retail.
Just checked, BB cost me 5,100 yen, which according to current conversion is 47.11 USD, add 18 USD for fast shipping and you get 65.11 USD. Other places have even lower early bird specials, but I used hlj because they let me pay once it's there, and over pay-pal while the others use credit cards only.
For me this is the cheapest way of getting these, local hoby stores want like 80 USD for the figure alone, plus shipping. On top of that I get it the same time it arrives at their store.
Amiami, goes even lower, Star Saber for instance is currently 32% of.
Posted by Siger on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:46pm CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Siger wrote:No, if you highlight the price it's 47.26, shipping in my experience was about $12 for 1/100 Hi Nu Gundam. So Bumblebee can't be heavier than that huge box. It should come out to about $60.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
I see $55.60
The price is 6000 Yen. At the current exchange rate, that's about $55.40
https://www.google.com/search?q=6000+yen
Regarless, the point remains the same: you can't get it for less than $40.
They sold it at 15% off.
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljlist?utm_source=seibertron.com&Genr ... 21=&x=0&y=0&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Yes the other guy's high or have memory problems.
Posted by Siger on October 23rd, 2014 @ 3:52pm CDT
Dead Metal wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:Siger wrote:No, if you highlight the price it's 47.26, shipping in my experience was about $12 for 1/100 Hi Nu Gundam. So Bumblebee can't be heavier than that huge box. It should come out to about $60.
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT80318?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
I see $55.60
The price is 6000 Yen. At the current exchange rate, that's about $55.40
https://www.google.com/search?q=6000+yen
Regarless, the point remains the same: you can't get it for less than $40.
We got it at pre-order prices. HLJ, like most Japanese based retailers have "early bird" pre-order prices that are below actual retail.
Just checked, BB cost me 5,100 yen, which according to current conversion is 47.11 USD, add 18 USD for fast shipping and you get 65.11 USD. Other places have even lower early bird specials, but I used hlj because they let me pay once it's there, and over pay-pal while the others use credit cards only.
For me this is the cheapest way of getting these, local hoby stores want like 80 USD for the figure alone, plus shipping. On top of that I get it the same time it arrives at their store.
Amiami, goes even lower, Star Saber for instance is currently 32% of.
Thanks for the info on Starsaber, amiami had them sold out on pre-orders. Now I can save another $12 compared to my HLJ order.