In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong
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Some have reported double faces in the selection, but nothing like that in my box.
Paint at the base of the arm for the fusion cannon: you need to insert the weapon without sliding against the base, but directly applying pressure on the tabs. No paint chipping occurs after a number of attempts.
Overall: no paint defects, solid articulation.
The real issue is the silencer: even clipping it on with extreme caution, it chipped away some paint. Looking at it more closely, you can see the tracks in the silencer: they're not smooth, they're slightly raised and have 'cutting' edges, the real culprits for the paint chipping.
I restored the colouring with a sharpie, and took care of the cause: removed 4 screws and took out the attachment inside. The attachment is what clips to the gun's nozzle (making it harder to remove it later, which can cause the breakage) and pushes its outer side against the non-smooth parts of the silencer. So I removed the culprit (below), with the result of a silencer which is slightly less stable but with no paint chipping issues whatsoever.
The riskiest part of the transformation (which I imagine is what has lead to the legs breaking in some photos circulating online) is the bringing together of the hips to form the gun's handle: behind the hip joint, there is a screw that needs loosening a little, to ease the swinging of the parts.
There is indeed a neck, you just need to rotate the head upwards.
There are some delicate passage in the transformation from gun to robot, too, where a handy tool (screwdriver or small lever) can come in useful, as you take the same steps backwards. Transformed carefully a number of times, and no issues here.
Despite these necessary cautions, I can only welcome Megs in my home; the engineering, aesthetics, and figure overall are extremely pleasing. ^^
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Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 6:43am CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:15am CDT
Posted by Cobotron on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:49am CDT
As for transporting on an airplane, not sure other countries laws, but I'm pretty sure in the US you can check firearms in checked baggage, but you MUST declare it to the airline and accompanied by proper legal documentation. Even if they found it, and saw it was a toy, I'm sure it would cause trouble.
But I don't own any firearms nor would I travel with them if I did, so I don't know for sure. Best bet would be to make the airline aware of it. They take that stuff hella seriously!
Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:04am CDT
https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/how-to-preemptively-fix-masterpiece-megatron-t108972.php
Posted by Logan. on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:05am CDT
Posted by Logan. on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:50am CDT
Posted by Sideswipe79 on April 9th, 2017 @ 10:53am CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 9th, 2017 @ 11:12am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:So let's make this simple, what are the direct questions and concerns you all may have about this figure? I promise an un biased answer to the best of my ability.
So if I was to buy this figure right now....list the steps and precautionary fixes I can perform right out of the box to prevent breakage and chipping. The article posted now tells everything to do in such a random order and fails to provide pictures of the infamous leg screw that needs to be loosened. I also hope that in the future somebody who is expierenced with the figure can post a youtube video and perform all the fixes right out the box without even trying to play with the figure. That would be of great help. BBTS or a company who can afford to experiment with a figure should put this out for the people. I guarantee it would help boost sales.
Posted by dragons on April 9th, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 9th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Laserwave was sold at their 17% to 20% off for months post general release, its all sold out now.
Exactly, months. That figure wasn't a super big seller for anyone thanks to the price being inflated so much by the electronics and the colors really turned off a lot of people.
Guess Megs is more in demand by your logic that he is being sold full price + the taxes. Also, again, why sell the item at no tax prices PO then full price + taxes post general release? Would their bottom line still be achieved?
Pre-orders are a battlefield between shops, all of them trying to be more enticing than the next. Years ago HLJ only offered pre-order discounts for the first week that something was available for pre-order and then they'd go back to full price until they sold out or hit clearance. It wasn't until AmiAmi came along and started taking away their pre-orders that they made the discounts permanent. Once something is released and the mad rush is gone the prices become more flexible. Just look around: Hlj - order stop, Hobby Search - sold out, A-E - sold out, Big In Japan - out of stock, Amazon.co.jp - sold out, available through other Amazon sellers at full price with no international sales. AmiAmi is the only major exporter that still has stock left which puts them in the unique position to sell at whatever price they want.
Though this might be a typo but their sold out Inferno, it is still marked as 21% off while Megs who is twice and a 1/4 the cost is now full price. If I were a businessman and already earned a profit, my priority would be to get rid of inventory and fast (their Megs stocks at present is limited to 3 per household limit at full price price tax) again this is so
Why would you want to minimize profits when you're in the perfect position to maximize them? AmiAmi isn't hurting for sales and in no rush to clear inventory on something that's only been out for a few weeks. Stores don't survive on pre-orders alone, they survive by having items on hand that people want. Someone will come along, probably in Japan, that didn't have the money to buy Megatron when he came out, but do now and will pay full price because he's so hard to find anywhere else. That's who AmiAmi is targeting, they can sell other stuff in the meantime.
Emerje
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:So let's make this simple, what are the direct questions and concerns you all may have about this figure? I promise an un biased answer to the best of my ability.
So if I was to buy this figure right now....list the steps and precautionary fixes I can perform right out of the box to prevent breakage and chipping. The article posted now tells everything to do in such a random order and fails to provide pictures of the infamous leg screw that needs to be loosened. I also hope that in the future somebody who is expierenced with the figure can post a youtube video and perform all the fixes right out the box without even trying to play with the figure. That would be of great help. BBTS or a company who can afford to experiment with a figure should put this out for the people. I guarantee it would help boost sales.
Well, as long as you have handled a MP style figure before, and understand the difference between them and mainstream figures, you should have no breakage issues.*
As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:
IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.
Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.
*one piece on mine needed to have a tiny bit of excess plastic trimmed before it was transformable. More detail coming later.
Posted by Sideswipe79 on April 9th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Rated X wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:
As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:
IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.
Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.
Mine as several paint dameges due to the transformation and use of gimmik.
Posted by nycPrime on April 9th, 2017 @ 4:40pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Okay, this is unrelated to the figure itself in a way especially since it'll be ages before I can get him; but I'm curious in general: we all know the laws around toy guns are a little frustrating, but how about when you're taking him somewhere else? Like, say, moving house? Even going outside your country on a plane? Anyone know how toy gun laws would restrict you there if you were taking him?
At least within the US, as long as the orange plug is in there, you can pretty much do what you want with it without fear. Without the plug, you'd be fine if you were smart about it. What I mean is don't walk around with it in gun mode waving it around. There's a sad story of a small kid doing that with a toy gun with the orange plug either missing or painted over. The cops were called and it ended tragically.
As for flying, I don't know why you would do so in this day and age, either domestically or internationally. Probably best to avoid that if at all possible.
Posted by fenrir72 on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:03pm CDT
Sideswipe79 wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Rated X wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:
As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:
IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.
Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.
Mine as several paint dameges due to the transformation and use of gimmik.
Did it chip right off the clam shell?
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT
Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.
Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?
Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.
As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.
Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.
Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.
So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.
He looks good with other bots.
36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.
Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.
As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.
Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.
Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.
The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.
As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.
Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.
In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.
Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.
This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.
Posted by sol magnus on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:37pm CDT
Although I tend not to get into the 3p thing too much, I'm not against 3p figures. I, like many, use them to fill in Takara gaps. I do tend to think Takara makes the best figures of their characters, but I have no hard-line opinion of those who like 3p offerings more.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:50pm CDT
I've one solution for ya:Ironhidensh wrote:its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons),
Posted by fenrir72 on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, so as promised, whether you want them or not, here are my thoughts on MP-36 Megatron, enjoy! Also, I will be comparing 36 very heavily to Maketoys Despotron, my current Masterpiece style Megatron. A word of transparency before we go further. Up until getting 36 in hand, I have not been a huge fan, and have in fact been a fairly vocal critic. That said, I still feel I can be pretty objective in this. While I might like other figures better, I can step back, and still see what is good in the figure at hand. Remember as well, liking one thing more, doesn’t make the other thing bad.
Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.
Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?
Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.
As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.
Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.
Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.
So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.
He looks good with other bots.
36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.
Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.
As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.
Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.
Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.
The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.
As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.
Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.
In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.
Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.
This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.
@ IHD, I know you already put an effort on posting the images but is it possible to mark those parts concerning the "shaving" you made. You can do it with the edit options of paint etc. For posterity sake as my MP hasn't arrive yet.
Oh, my calling you that censored word, I apologize in public. Man enough to admit it that I got my emotions carried away. Btw, has MP Megs caught your "zing"? Or is it still Despotron? If this didn't come out, I was leaning towards Maketoys' version 'cause it reminds me of the Studio Ox style which I so dig!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 9th, 2017 @ 10:05pm CDT
Now for those of you who may know, Ironhidensh has not been a big fan of the figure based on pictures and reviews and reports, but still ended up one as a gift. And based on his review, it seems it became the gift that has kept on giving. Read up below as Ironhidensh takes us through is experiences with the mold and shares with us his thoughts on the complaints of paint chipping, parts count, and breakage issues.
Was this review that made you say "I would have waited an eternity for this!" or did it only help convince you that this figure is nothing more than heroic nonsense? Check out the review, and let us know if this help sway your mind in an way!
Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, so as promised, whether you want them or not, here are my thoughts on MP-36 Megatron, enjoy! Also, I will be comparing 36 very heavily to Maketoys Despotron, my current Masterpiece style Megatron. A word of transparency before we go further. Up until getting 36 in hand, I have not been a huge fan, and have in fact been a fairly vocal critic. That said, I still feel I can be pretty objective in this. While I might like other figures better, I can step back, and still see what is good in the figure at hand. Remember as well, liking one thing more, doesn’t make the other thing bad.
Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.
Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?
Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.
As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.
Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.
Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.
So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.
He looks good with other bots.
36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.
Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.
As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.
Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.
Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.
The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.
As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.
Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.
In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.
Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.
This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.
Posted by Rated X on April 10th, 2017 @ 12:22am CDT
Im tempted to pull the trigger. But the nitpicker in me is waiting to see if Takara addresses any of the flaws officially in a statement. I would love to see a reissue in grey plastic like Hegemon and no paint which would mean no chipping. My only concern is that a reissue might not include the silencer and the stock. Those are a must have for me. I could care less about the other accessories if it brought the price down about 25 bucks. So im just gonna patiently wait and see what comes out the press throughout April and make a decision by May. Great review by the way. I only wish you had used red to mark the part of the barrel you modified because without the toy in hand most people wont have a clue what too look for in that picture. The one question I have is about the transformation. If I can handle the MP seeker mold, will MP-36 stress me out? Or is it on about the same level of complexity? Im not a fan of complex transformations. Ive never even fully transformed Hegemon. All those damn pannels on the legs/gun handle got me like screw this s**t let me just leave him in robot mode. Should I expect the same from MP-36? Or even worse? Is it another ROTF Leader Prime?
Posted by fenrir72 on April 10th, 2017 @ 12:35am CDT
Rated X wrote:Hmmmm....
Im tempted to pull the trigger. But the nitpicker in me is waiting to see if Takara addresses any of the flaws officially in a statement. I would love to see a reissue in grey plastic like Hegemon and no paint which would mean no chipping. My only concern is that a reissue might not include the silencer and the stock. Those are a must have for me. I could care less about the other accessories if it brought the price down about 25 bucks. So im just gonna patiently wait and see what comes out the press throughout April and make a decision by May. Great review by the way. I only wish you had used red to mark the part of the barrel you modified because without the toy in hand most people wont have a clue what too look for in that picture. The one question I have is about the transformation. If I can handle the MP seeker mold, will MP-36 stress me out? Or is it on about the same level of complexity? Im not a fan of complex transformations. Ive never even fully transformed Hegemon. All those damn pannels on the legs/gun handle got me like screw this s**t let me just leave him in robot mode. Should I expect the same from MP-36? Or even worse? Is it another ROTF Leader Prime?
That would be Megaplex (possible blue inner shins) and trans Metals Megatron (in black). As for Takara admitting direct fault? Don't hold your breathe.
Posted by Rated X on April 10th, 2017 @ 1:01am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Rated X wrote:Hmmmm....
Im tempted to pull the trigger. But the nitpicker in me is waiting to see if Takara addresses any of the flaws officially in a statement. I would love to see a reissue in grey plastic like Hegemon and no paint which would mean no chipping. My only concern is that a reissue might not include the silencer and the stock. Those are a must have for me. I could care less about the other accessories if it brought the price down about 25 bucks. So im just gonna patiently wait and see what comes out the press throughout April and make a decision by May. Great review by the way. I only wish you had used red to mark the part of the barrel you modified because without the toy in hand most people wont have a clue what too look for in that picture. The one question I have is about the transformation. If I can handle the MP seeker mold, will MP-36 stress me out? Or is it on about the same level of complexity? Im not a fan of complex transformations. Ive never even fully transformed Hegemon. All those damn pannels on the legs/gun handle got me like screw this s**t let me just leave him in robot mode. Should I expect the same from MP-36? Or even worse? Is it another ROTF Leader Prime?
That would be Megaplex (possible blue inner shins) and trans Metals Megatron (in black). As for Takara admitting direct fault? Don't hold your breathe.
Remember not too long ago MP Ramjet got a fix for defective parts from Takara? They sent all the online retailers the parts to ship out to people who bought him and fix the rest of the leftover stock. Mine came opened and fixed by tfsource because I bought him late in the game. I could see Takara sending out parts baggies with revised parts down the line. And as many reissues as MP-10 has gotten I think its safe to say MP-36 should get a couple reissues including the inevitable Brown King diaclone repaint. Theyre gonna milk that mold to death like MP-10 and if any QC issues stand in the way of success I believe they will make revisions in future reissues. If the chipping paint was the biggest issue best believe MP-36-B will feature a non painted gun metal plastic described as being "comic accurate" or "battle version" or some other stupid title to introduce a non painted version without admitting the paint on the original sucked. Im calling it. Thats just my opinion of course based on previous MP releases by Takara.With all the money and effort they put into. MP-36, theyre gonna shove that mold down our throats until everyone owns at least one version.
Posted by fenrir72 on April 10th, 2017 @ 1:32am CDT
Rated X wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Rated X wrote:Hmmmm....
Im tempted to pull the trigger. But the nitpicker in me is waiting to see if Takara addresses any of the flaws officially in a statement. I would love to see a reissue in grey plastic like Hegemon and no paint which would mean no chipping. My only concern is that a reissue might not include the silencer and the stock. Those are a must have for me. I could care less about the other accessories if it brought the price down about 25 bucks. So im just gonna patiently wait and see what comes out the press throughout April and make a decision by May. Great review by the way. I only wish you had used red to mark the part of the barrel you modified because without the toy in hand most people wont have a clue what too look for in that picture. The one question I have is about the transformation. If I can handle the MP seeker mold, will MP-36 stress me out? Or is it on about the same level of complexity? Im not a fan of complex transformations. Ive never even fully transformed Hegemon. All those damn pannels on the legs/gun handle got me like screw this s**t let me just leave him in robot mode. Should I expect the same from MP-36? Or even worse? Is it another ROTF Leader Prime?
That would be Megaplex (possible blue inner shins) and trans Metals Megatron (in black). As for Takara admitting direct fault? Don't hold your breathe.
Remember not too long ago MP Ramjet got a fix for defective parts from Takara? They sent all the online retailers the parts to ship out to people who bought him and fix the rest of the leftover stock. Mine came opened and fixed by tfsource because I bought him late in the game. I could see Takara sending out parts baggies with revised parts down the line. And as many reissues as MP-10 has gotten I think its safe to say MP-36 should get a couple reissues including the inevitable Brown King diaclone repaint. Theyre gonna milk that mold to death like MP-10 and if any QC issues stand in the way of success I believe they will make revisions in future reissues. If the chipping paint was the biggest issue best believe MP-36-B will feature a non painted gun metal plastic described as being "comic accurate" or "battle version" or some other stupid title to introduce a non painted version without admitting the paint on the original sucked. Im calling it. Thats just my opinion of course based on previous MP releases by Takara.With all the money and effort they put into. MP-36, theyre gonna shove that mold down our throats until everyone owns at least one version.
Depends. From the noise produced post release, most breakages seem to be from mishandling. The thick plastic on the extensions is more of the design. I doubt Takara will release a replacement part for that. That would entail readjusting the master mold. Possible ver.2 but again, won't hold out my breathe.
Now, for possible repaints? Maybe. This Megs is waaaaaaaay different from MP-05 which got like 3 versions. But being a bad guy, who knows.........
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on April 10th, 2017 @ 4:12am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.
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Sorry Ironhidensh. As I don't have Meg's in-hand yet, could you please indicate which pieces you needed to modify in the picture above. Thanks.
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 10th, 2017 @ 11:14am CDT
Posted by Logan. on April 10th, 2017 @ 12:55pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on April 10th, 2017 @ 6:42pm CDT
Ever wonder that some incidences of damage was probably due to the language barrier?
Anyway, whoever the primary engineer on this project was, he deserves a out of 5.If he was the guy behind IH and ratchet, then all the more and not surprising.
Posted by galvatron00 on April 10th, 2017 @ 7:21pm CDT
Posted by nycPrime on April 10th, 2017 @ 11:20pm CDT
And maybe I have OCD, but I examined Megs before I attempted the transformation, and did notice a few paint scuffs. This paint issue is definitely a bummer. I think someone here mentioned they used a sharpie to "fix" it. I'm too chicken to do that, but I would love to see the end result.
Posted by fenrir72 on April 11th, 2017 @ 12:24am CDT
nycPrime wrote:I finally got around to transforming Megs into gun mode. Nothing new to add, but will echo a lot of the comments from others. The gun has too many panels for my liking, but it does look nice. It's cool that the hammer and safety also work. There are some cool transformation steps, such as the legs compressing, but overall it's the biggest pain in the ass transformation. I hate all the times you gotta wiggle a bunch of moving parts in unison to get things to tab well. And because of all the news of paint chipping, I tried to be super careful, which meant it took even longer. Even so, I accidentally chipped the paint in a spot or 2. Nothing too bad, but it is annoying. I'm going to leave it in gun mode for a few days until I can muster the energy to transform him back, and he'll probably be in bot mode semi-permanently.
And maybe I have OCD, but I examined Megs before I attempted the transformation, and did notice a few paint scuffs. This paint issue is definitely a bummer. I think someone here mentioned they used a sharpie to "fix" it. I'm too chicken to do that, but I would love to see the end result.
Don't use a sharpie. Especially of the gray silver parts. It's got solvents and may further damage the default paint site where the chipping happened.
Posted by Cyberpath on April 11th, 2017 @ 3:01am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on April 11th, 2017 @ 5:19am CDT
Posted by Logan. on April 11th, 2017 @ 8:16am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
He is, in a word "splendid".
Posted by fenrir72 on April 11th, 2017 @ 11:42am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Just got my Megatron. He is intact, with no paint chips left in his clamshell, nor any missing paint I can find on the figure.
He is, in a word "splendid".
So most of the previous negativity were broad generalizations then? Surprise surprise I wonder why
Posted by nycPrime on April 11th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Just got my Megatron. He is intact, with no paint chips left in his clamshell, nor any missing paint I can find on the figure.
He is, in a word "splendid".
So most of the previous negativity were broad generalizations then? Surprise surprise I wonder why
I don't know how prevalent the paint issue is out the box. But based on my personal experience, I imagine it's near impossible to transform the figure and not suffer some scuffs. Too many moving parts that may rub against each other, and a few areas where brute force may be required.
Posted by sol magnus on April 11th, 2017 @ 12:31pm CDT
nycPrime wrote:fenrir72 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Just got my Megatron. He is intact, with no paint chips left in his clamshell, nor any missing paint I can find on the figure.
He is, in a word "splendid".
So most of the previous negativity were broad generalizations then? Surprise surprise I wonder why
I don't know how prevalent the paint issue is out the box. But based on my personal experience, I imagine it's near impossible to transform the figure and not suffer some scuffs. Too many moving parts that may rub against each other, and a few areas where brute force may be required.
With the complexity of the transformation, I can totally see that being possible. I won't be transforming mine, however, just playing around in robot mode (as I display my figures in that mode).
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 12th, 2017 @ 2:13am CDT
Some excessive for was required for some very tight pins... and reading the advice about the hips... I'd completely removed the screw... and still had to tug harder than I wanted to dislodge them the first time....
Despite all that I think he might be my new favorite MP... he just oozes character and style.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 12th, 2017 @ 8:15pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on April 12th, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT
Drift082111 wrote:Received mine today. So far so good. Haven't transformed him but I'll def take my time and care once I work up the courage. I've only posed him a little bit and I think he is the best figure I own at this point.
So looking at his face, it don't look too long yes? I heard previous criticisms of it being too "long" when actually it seems to be just an optical illusion which makes it just perfect.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 12th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Received mine today. So far so good. Haven't transformed him but I'll def take my time and care once I work up the courage. I've only posed him a little bit and I think he is the best figure I own at this point.
So looking at his face, it don't look too long yes? I heard previous criticisms of it being too "long" when actually it seems to be just an optical illusion which makes it just perfect.
It doesn't look too long to me as well. Also, I'm a huge fan of cartoon accuracy so even if it was I'd still rate him as a 10.
Posted by MrBlack on April 12th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CDT
It's a complex transformation and VERY long, but not particularly hard. I consulted a video review while transforming it to gun mode, to make up for some of the weaker parts of the instructions, but I only glanced at the instructions twice when transforming it back. There are a couple of nerve-wracking parts, but for the most part it isn't bad so long as you're patient. I did have to loosen the screw behind the hips to get them into place properly, but it may not have been necessary. I just didn't want to risk breaking anything.
I did scuff a bit of paint, although it was purely my own fault. The silencer DID scuff some paint on the barrel, so definitely be careful of that.
In sum, it's not nearly as daunting a transformation as I expected. It is complex, and it is long, but none of it is really that hard, and everything pegged in well in gun mode. It's not a figure I'll transform very often, but I think it will get a lot easier over time.
Posted by fenrir72 on April 12th, 2017 @ 10:34pm CDT
Drift082111 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Received mine today. So far so good. Haven't transformed him but I'll def take my time and care once I work up the courage. I've only posed him a little bit and I think he is the best figure I own at this point.
So looking at his face, it don't look too long yes? I heard previous criticisms of it being too "long" when actually it seems to be just an optical illusion which makes it just perfect.
It doesn't look too long to me as well. Also, I'm a huge fan of cartoon accuracy so even if it was I'd still rate him as a 10.
This!From a bonafide owner.
Envy you as mine is still stock somewhere in Tokyo since April 5,2017.
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on April 12th, 2017 @ 11:00pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Drift082111 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Drift082111 wrote:Received mine today. So far so good. Haven't transformed him but I'll def take my time and care once I work up the courage. I've only posed him a little bit and I think he is the best figure I own at this point.
So looking at his face, it don't look too long yes? I heard previous criticisms of it being too "long" when actually it seems to be just an optical illusion which makes it just perfect.
It doesn't look too long to me as well. Also, I'm a huge fan of cartoon accuracy so even if it was I'd still rate him as a 10.
This!From a bonafide owner.
Envy you as mine is still stock somewhere in Tokyo since April 5,2017.
That's brutal. Hope you can get a hold of him asap. I'm staring at him as he stands on my desk as I'm holding my second born son. He's 2 months old. Hoping he loves Megatron as much my 3 year od.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 12th, 2017 @ 11:24pm CDT
I may look into taking the "inner" barrel-plug clip out of the silencer. I think that was mentioned in either a review video/prior comment.
Posted by nycPrime on April 12th, 2017 @ 11:29pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:Finally got around to transforming it.
It's a complex transformation and VERY long, but not particularly hard. I consulted a video review while transforming it to gun mode, to make up for some of the weaker parts of the instructions, but I only glanced at the instructions twice when transforming it back. There are a couple of nerve-wracking parts, but for the most part it isn't bad so long as you're patient. I did have to loosen the screw behind the hips to get them into place properly, but it may not have been necessary. I just didn't want to risk breaking anything.
I did scuff a bit of paint, although it was purely my own fault. The silencer DID scuff some paint on the barrel, so definitely be careful of that.
In sum, it's not nearly as daunting a transformation as I expected. It is complex, and it is long, but none of it is really that hard, and everything pegged in well in gun mode. It's not a figure I'll transform very often, but I think it will get a lot easier over time.
I finally transformed him back to bot mode. I agree it's complex but not exactly difficult. I also have some paint scuff marks, but I don't think it's avoidable no matter how careful you are. Luckily it's not too bad and I can live with it. I also got some minor scuff marks b/c of the silencer, and I didn't even shove it in all the way.
Bottom line, the 2 modes are awesome, and it's a really fun figure with all the accessories. But the transformation, which is already not fun at all, is so much worse when you're worried about the delicate paint.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 13th, 2017 @ 12:32am CDT
Posted by RustedCross on April 13th, 2017 @ 12:47am CDT
Got mine today. Even with the orange plug, he looks awesome.
Transformation was difficult. But having watched it on YouTube, I knew to be careful. I loosened the screw for the legs (which I recommend), and that helped with the hip transformation. The only real problem was the part where you rotate the gun barrel down on the back. I had to slowly apply pressure to get the barrel to get past the ridges. After the initial transformation, it's no longer an issue.
No paint chips here.
This figure is awesome.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 13th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
I forgot that Devy is basically MP scale. They all look really good together.
Posted by RustedCross on April 13th, 2017 @ 1:29am CDT
Decided to switch faces.
Love that smile.