Kingdom T-Wrecks Finally Officially Revealed by Toyworld with Stock Images

That art (along with the 3d render in the back of the box) does make me think there was a mixup BUT the official pic of the finished toy shows the unchanged megatron head so, who knows. Doesn't explain the white on the mouth though.

I guess this means they have officially abandoned the toy accurate headsculp? Bummer. I was already disappointed that it had no mutant mask.

Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

william-james88 wrote:That art (along with the 3d render in the back of the box) does make me think there was a mixup BUT the official pic of the finished toy shows the unchanged megatron head so, who knows. Doesn't explain the white on the mouth though.

The silver on the mouth is the big tell that the paint apps were designed with the alternate head in mind, meaning that whatever happened that caused the use of the primary closed-mouth head (accidental or not) must've been quite late in the process.

More reasons for me to skip this one and just hunt down the original.

Rtron wrote:I guess this means they have officially abandoned the toy accurate headsculp? Bummer. I was already disappointed that it had no mutant mask.

Yeah, if they'd done the mutant head instead of megs head, I would have liked it much better.
Overall this release is underwhelming for me.
Sadly this will probably the one Target Exclusive that ends up being readily available.

Rodimus Knight wrote:

Rtron wrote:I guess this means they have officially abandoned the toy accurate headsculp? Bummer. I was already disappointed that it had no mutant mask.

Yeah, if they'd done the mutant head instead of megs head, I would have liked it much better.
Overall this release is underwhelming for me.
Sadly this will probably the one Target Exclusive that ends up being readily available.

I will likely only get it if it lingers at Target and they put it on clearance.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

Overcracker wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

I think the shade of red they used is what is putting most people off, it should be darker.

I'm suffering from supreme boredom with this T-Wrecks thing. I'd like to hear some info about Wave 4. Hasbro, can you make that happen?

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

I think the shade of red they used is what is putting most people off, it should be darker.

I agree, the red, is more brownish than the deep red it should be. But arguing the deco is lazy when it's exactly the same as the original in terms of layout is what I don't get.

Overcracker wrote:The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

Exactly the same, my foot.

https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/1379024441406021640

The gold was dulled down to almost gray, the two different blues were reduced to being the same color, the helmet was left red instead of copper, and there was little attempt to put the bright pink into the color scheme...They seem to have missed the charm of the original deco.

sol magnus wrote:I'm suffering from supreme boredom with this T-Wrecks thing. I'd like to hear some info about Wave 4. Hasbro, can you make that happen?

I can't help you with Wave 4, but in a few days or so I can take some pics of Wave 3 core-class...


Soon my Soundwave collection and Dino bones collection will grow by one. Distribution must still be wonky if figures are getting this kind of early release.

aronjlove wrote:

sol magnus wrote:I'm suffering from supreme boredom with this T-Wrecks thing. I'd like to hear some info about Wave 4. Hasbro, can you make that happen?

I can't help you with Wave 4, but in a few days or so I can take some pics of Wave 3 core-class...

dorkside.png

Soon my Soundwave collection and Dino bones collection will grow by one. Distribution must still be wonky if figures are getting this kind of early release.

That helps. And no offense to T-Wrecks, I'm just not getting it and we've known about it for months to all my T-Wrecks peeps.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

Exactly the same, my foot.

https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/1379024441406021640

The gold was dulled down to almost gray, the two different blues were reduced to being the same color, the helmet was left red instead of copper, and there was little attempt to put the bright pink into the color scheme...They seem to have missed the charm of the original deco.

Hue differences in paint and plastic do not translate to a lazy deco.

The general applications are the same, And yes I already said the grey vs the tan and that the red needed to be deeper. That's just hue differences, not deco differences.

The deco is the same. There are no real paint applications missing, just different hues used. Maybe because of the different plastics. Hard plastic vs the heavy rubbery skin Kingdom Megs has.

It's the same hue difference between the Original Megatron and Kingdom Megs and even MP Megs.

Kingdom Megs has a deeper purple than the original Beastwars Megs which was much closer to grey. But nobody is complaining Kingdom Megs does not exactly match the original.

Overcracker wrote:Hue differences in paint and plastic do not translate to a lazy deco.

The general applications are the same, And yes I already said the grey vs the tan and that the red needed to be deeper. That's just hue differences, not deco differences.

The deco is the same. There are no real paint applications missing, just different hues used. Maybe because of the different plastics. Hard plastic vs the heavy rubbery skin Kingdom Megs has.

The original's pink, baby blue, copper, and green are all gone. That's half of the original toy's eight colors missing from this version.

Counting the tan replaced with gray makes over 50% of the original toy's colors removed from this version.

Overcracker wrote:It's the same hue difference between the Original Megatron and Kingdom Megs and even MP Megs.

Kingdom Megs has a deeper purple than the original Beastwars Megs which was much closer to grey. But nobody is complaining Kingdom Megs does not exactly match the original.

Kingdom Megs was trying to be cartoon-accurate. The cartoon model's colors were always different from the original toy's.

Overcracker wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

Id expect his crotch To be fully blue like the original TWrecks. That definitely stops the colour layout from being 100% what the original had.

PrimevsPrime posted his video review of Kingdom Core Class Soundwave and Dracodon!

https://youtu.be/fp6vzPteKlE

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks genuinely awful

As someone whose only experience with the bw megs mold was through t-wrecks - bought at one of only two botcons that I went to with my father when I was younger - it's one of the few figures that is sacred to me, and seeing it here, just blurted out in some zero-effort deco actually hurts me on the inside. That gray plastic is just the actual worst

The deco is exactly the same as the original T-wrecks. The only change is using grey plastic instead of a more metallic tan. The deco layout is 100% what the original T-Wrecks had.

Not sure what more deco you expected or why.

Id expect his crotch To be fully blue like the original TWrecks. That definitely stops the colour layout from being 100% what the original had.

Well that makes the deco totally different.

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has dropped a new video review for us all to enjoy, that of the Wave 3 Core Class figures!

These have already started Shipping from certain retailers such as Dorkside Toys (as reported by fellow Seibertron user, Aronjlove).

The toys in this wave are G1 Soundwave and Dracodon. Soundwave is modeled after his G1 self (including a tiny Lazerbeak!) while Dracodon is a Verterbreak redeco.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:


Special thanks to fellow Seibertron user, TigerHawk7109 and Dominus Prime, for letting us know about the review.

What do you think of these toys? Will you be getting them?

Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Currently watching emgo's review of roddie

sol magnus wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.

Well, I'm glad there's at least SOME legal thing going on here - but since he never shows the box on the retail releases (and I saw an entire text chain confirming what I said), it only kind of raises my opinion of the whole thing.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hue differences in paint and plastic do not translate to a lazy deco.

The general applications are the same, And yes I already said the grey vs the tan and that the red needed to be deeper. That's just hue differences, not deco differences.

The deco is the same. There are no real paint applications missing, just different hues used. Maybe because of the different plastics. Hard plastic vs the heavy rubbery skin Kingdom Megs has.

The original's pink, baby blue, copper, and green are all gone. That's half of the original toy's eight colors missing from this version.

Counting the tan replaced with gray makes over 50% of the original toy's colors removed from this version.

Overcracker wrote:It's the same hue difference between the Original Megatron and Kingdom Megs and even MP Megs.

Kingdom Megs has a deeper purple than the original Beastwars Megs which was much closer to grey. But nobody is complaining Kingdom Megs does not exactly match the original.

Kingdom Megs was trying to be cartoon-accurate. The cartoon model's colors were always different from the original toy's.

Where is the green you’re talking about!? The eyes? It’s still there, in exactly the same places, just a more yellowish green instead of bright green. Again, it’s a hue difference, as others have pointed out. I don’t see multiple shades of blue on the original either, just metallic blue (definitely NOT “baby blue” by any stretch). Are you talking about the face? It’s not that much lighter than the blue elsewhere on the original figure. There’s some neon pink/red still on the hip blasters of the new version, but that’s all you get, as it doesn’t come with the missiles the original toy had. The rest of the neon red plastic of the original is structural, and minimal at that. Did you want them to paint those structural parts in the new mold, or did you want them to cast another plastic color just for that, when the mold probably isn’t even set up to do that anyway. The reddish bronze paint on the original’s helmet is gone, but the new one’s red plastic is a good approximation anyway. It just happens to match the red of the rest of the body. Would you rather it have been painted another (inaccurate) hue just to mildly contrast the rest of the rusty red on the figure?

The only real sticking point might be the colder gray plastic. Hasbro might have done well to use that weird brownish gray plastic they seem to love from Titans Return Power Master Optimus Prime and G1 Blaster reissues. The exact hue of the original’s “tan” plastic is hard to really peg down, as it differs by photograph. The fictional artwork isn’t even consistent on the gray color. Just check the old 3H Comics.

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but it’s far from a “lazy deco.” It’s quite faithful to the layout of the original with some hues adjusted. I think it points out that the original’s deco wasn’t anything amazing to begin with, honestly.

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:So is this "Prime vs Prime" reviewer the only one allowed early access or something?

He's not 'allowed' anything. He buys the toys from factory workers who steal them.

Or he gets them from certain stores who recieve stock earlier as is the case with the Takara Selects gestalts who shipped early from In Demand Toys. This is how UK fans got Earthrise Scorponok and Skylynx before many others in the fandom.

The truth is in the packaging or lack thereof. If he has the packaging, he'll show it off. If not, then it's stolen and delivered loose.
That's why he rarely talks about the Golden Disc Cards.

Oh I wasn't saying that was the case for everything, in fact my example was primarily about the Takara Selects stuff that he was attacked over despite in demand toys Shipping those exact same figures.

I still prefer the conspiracy theory though the 'Factory thief' is actually working on behalf of Hasbro to build up hype for certain figures (see how there was no leaks of Rhinox for instance but wreck-gar did leak). Why would Hasbro do this (aside from the hype train?) To get around YouTube T&C of course! They always have plausible deniability. After all it wasn't them who gave the youtuber the figure...it was the thief.

Yes, I'm cynical enough to believe that a corporation would do this in order to manipulate a fandom to make more money. After all I'm betting there's more that don't care these are stolen figures then those that do. By a large margin.

ZeroWolf wrote:Oh I wasn't saying that was the case for everything, in fact my example was primarily about the Takara Selects stuff that he was attacked over despite in demand toys Shipping those exact same figures.

I still prefer the conspiracy theory though the 'Factory thief' is actually working on behalf of Hasbro to build up hype for certain figures (see how there was no leaks of Rhinox for instance but wreck-gar did leak). Why would Hasbro do this (aside from the hype train?) To get around YouTube T&C of course! They always have plausible deniability. After all it wasn't them who gave the youtuber the figure...it was the thief.

Yes, I'm cynical enough to believe that a corporation would do this in order to manipulate a fandom to make more money. After all I'm betting there's more that don't care these are stolen figures then those that do. By a large margin.

Ah, I see.
I think your conspiracy theory is actually close to the source: workers want to send off the figures that reviewers would want their first dibs on, so they choose the most impressive ones (which would probably be the same as the ones Hasbro's proud of).
That's why we saw Galvatron leaked to multiple reviewers and Magnus to a lesser degree.

I really don't care about them being stolen, I just think it's something that people should be conscious of.

Ahh, more stolen goods from our resident Transformers tealeaf...

I hear he's started a website to sell all of his collectibles:

- https://youtu.be/CMfNvpIklFg

Admittedly, the fact that many of these early reviewers have none of the product collateral materials (package, instructions, trading cards, etc.) makes their mysterious access seem a bit dodgy. If these were legitimate releases, they'd have all the associated material...

Emgo316 has posted a video review of the highly anticipated Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime. Complete with his packaging, card, and ALL the accessories, including the smoke effects for the smokestacks, accessories that were missing from the Prime VS Prime review. He also shows more functions of the toys.

Another interesting fact is that Emgo was able to do this review because a friend from Australia sent it to him because they began appearing in his area. In which store Rodimus appeared in Australia? That was not said. But our fellow Australian Seibertronians should keep an eye out when Transformers hunting.

Without further ado, here's Emgo's video review of CC Rodimus Prime:



Are you more excited than before for this figure now that you have seen ALL of it's features? Let us know!

^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.

This whole debate yet again? Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source! I know some retro game YouTubers that deal with clone consoles have disclosed where they got their stock, either review sample sent ahead or bought with their own money, so why can't toy reviewers do the same?

I've emailed and messaged Prime "Tealeaf" Prime and he's never responded. As stated before, he's never produced packaging, nor given any official disclaimer that his toys were provided by Hasbro and that his videos are sponsored content (which is a huge rule at YouTube).

For the most part the man simply gets stolen goods and reviews them before others.

I find his behaviour deplorable, which is why I unsubscribed and blocked both his account and channel from my third party YouTube apps (you can also do it via scripts in Chrome, etc, I believe).

Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Just call him out on it and have him disclose his source!

ALL of the early reviewers HAVE been called out on Youtube, some people have even gone beyond allegation and called them straight up thieves in the comments section (I'm not taking sides here, just providing information). They don't have to respond, and seemingly just ignore such things. Personally I am the kind of person who would work diligently to clear my name if I was accused of something that was untrue, some people just don't care though...

o.supreme wrote:^Sightings of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, and T-Wrecks have been confirmed by various Australian Transformers fans. I don't always watch emgo, but if he does seemingly get something *early* he always has the packaging, and an explanation right in his video.

Yup. Emgo is squeaky clean. The only times he don't have the packaging are for most G1 figures (understandably so) and the brown boxes or baggies for the upgrade kits. Otherwise, the packaging is always present safe for some extremely rare exceptions. And if those happen, there's always a "why".

Regarding Rodimus himself, I'm even more exited than before. The only flaw of this set is the trypophobia inducting trailer interior.

And that's why I watch Emgo! The man is legit.

primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.

All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Why Seibertron doesn't just take screenshots and simply not provide links to his channel is beyond me. That's what another site has done.

All for the sake of neutrality (i.e. not playing favorites) and "Innocent until proven guilty" I reckon. More importantly, posting such screenshots and not disclose the source is downright theft.

I brought it up not to have Seibertron stop 'supporting' it, just that I think its sh---y. I watch the videos, so in some sense I too, 'support' it. But nothing he says (or TonTon, same deal) has anything to do with whether I purchase or not purchase any given figure. I'm just an information w---e, like most of us.

People care less about 'stolen' Factory samples then you think. But if it was really a problem, would Hasbro have stomped it out by now? The fact that they haven't, seems to me at least, to show they're happy with things as they are (realistic reason being it doesn't affect their bottom line one iota), after all publicity is publicity, and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?

ZeroWolf wrote:People care less about 'stolen' Factory samples then you think. But if it was really a problem, would Hasbro have stomped it out by now? The fact that they haven't, seems to me at least, to show they're happy with things as they are (realistic reason being it doesn't affect their bottom line one iota), after all publicity is publicity, and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?

Hasbro's 'look the other way' policy is fine by me. And yes, the reviews are generally favorable (although Tracks may have veered uncomfortably a bit), so it's good word of mouth for them.

ZeroWolf wrote:and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?

anyone who saw last years ER Ratchet review by tonton when he called the toy "stupid" because the character was "stupid" that was some comedic gold right there...

both badly reviewed AND reviewed badly in this case.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:and has any 'stolen' Factory toy ever been badly reviewed?

anyone who saw last years ER Ratchet review by tonton when he called the toy "stupid" because the character was "stupid" that was some comedic gold right there...

both badly reviewed AND reviewed badly in this case.

That review cracked me up lol he was so mad at the lack of paint and whatever else

I think he said siege ratchet was good

It is a shame if there is in fact theft involved. I for one would rather watch any other known YouTube reviewer rather than Emgo. I have personally seen enough reviews to prefer NOT to watch his for reasons of my own.

IMHO there is at least 1 fair reviewer (on the subject) currently over Emgo who get the job done I think with many more to come!


I'm not one that needs to see the freakin' box the figure came in, in fact to hell with it!

Nemesis Destron wrote:It is a shame if there is in fact theft involved. I for one would rather watch any other known YouTube reviewer rather than Emgo. I have personally seen enough reviews to prefer NOT to watch his for reasons of my own.

IMHO there is at least 1 fair reviewer (on the subject) currently over Emgo who get the job done I think with many more to come!


I'm not one that needs to see the freakin' box the figure came in, in fact to hell with it!

Who is this reviewer whom you speak of?

Man, you guys are kinda late on this. Kingdom Rodimus has been sighted over here at Big W shops for like, a few weeks or so now.
https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/05/22/tra ... lia-433957

Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.

cloudballoon wrote:Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.

I appreciate all of his little phrases and lingo
It is pretty repetitive but I enjoy the positivity and enthusiasm in the reviews. The effort is definitely there as you said, emgo is easily my favorite reviewer

I enjoy when he makes a comparison with "MAGNUS" as well as "GEEWUN ___ preciousssss"

Razorbeast88 wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:Emgo's got lots of his "signature stuff" in his videos, like "transclearance", "sad pac-man," saying Deluxe/Voyager/Leader class in all 4 languages, "you grow old..." and box throwing shticks that I find very repetitive. Got ultimately, they amount to a few extra seconds more per video, no big deal and not that annoying. Since IMO he does put a lot more extra effort (e.g. the sketch comedy) in each of his video than the average YT reviewer does so I do appreciate that. He's up front about sources and sponsors AFAIK so like some people already said here, he's legit.

I appreciate all of his little phrases and lingo
It is pretty repetitive but I enjoy the positivity and enthusiasm in the reviews. The effort is definitely there as you said, emgo is easily my favorite reviewer

I enjoy when he makes a comparison with "MAGNUS" as well as "GEEWUN ___ preciousssss"

I also think some people take "PARTSFORMING?! WORST TOY EV.... Shhhhhhh." personally.