Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece

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Via the Facebook group HK-TF, and its user Victor Wong (plus a clip from Toys Daily) we have a look at a redeco of Age of Extinction Leader Optimus Prime which will come out in the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight toyline. It is part of the Premiere Edition subline with a rusty paintjob, according to the packaging (which also shows red Drift). There is also a Bumblebee figure present and it is unsire if it is simply the Revenge of the Fallen Batle Ops Bee on display or if there are some new parts to him. There is the original MPM-2 box from 2010 present, confusing the matter. What do you fans make of this? Do you see something new to that Bumlebee? You can check out the pictures below and speculate away in the Energon Pub.

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Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851501)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on January 10th, 2017 @ 5:10am CST

I do love that Bumblebee.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851502)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 10th, 2017 @ 5:10am CST

Va'al wrote:Via some internet magicks, and some further digging on online retailer Amazon, the Canada version, we have what appears to be the full list of upcoming figures from the Transformers: The Last Knight movie, due in theaters in Summer 2017. Much like for Age of Extinction, they're all given a nickname (moving away from Rocky and into astronomy), no images, no pricepoint, but a general description and the classes - as you can see in the breakdown below (Legion, Deluxe, and Voyager). What do you think? Which character is which? Does this get some sort of interest ready for the new toyline? Let us know in the Energon Pub!

General Description

Welcome to the incredible world of Transformers robots. It is a world of high technology, ancient history, and a battle that has spanned the entire galaxy and millions of years. Optimus Prime, leader of the heroic Autobot, battles the tyrant Megatron and his evil Decepticon for the fate of freedom across the universe. There’s a Transformers figure for every kid or collector. From big converting action figures to miniature battling robots to figures that change between modes in 1 step, you can team up with Transformers toys to create your own incredible adventures. Whether you’re defending Earth with the Autobot, or conquering space with the Decepticon, the action is up to you. Transformers is a world-famous entertainment brand with 30 years of history, blockbuster movies, hit television shows and countless OSvels and comic books. With Transformers robot toys, you can create your own chapters in this epic, ongoing story. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro. This copy is intended as placeholder text only and is OSt representative of individual items in the line.

Choose your side: Join the mighty Autobot or the destructive Decepticon
Most Transformers toys feature awesome weapons and cool converting features
Collect cool converting characters from the show Transformers: Robots in Disguise
Relive the original adventures with Transformers Generations figures

Deluxes:

Wave 1:
“Shooting Star” Amazon Canada
“Gamma Ray” Amazon Canada
“Mars” Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” Amazon Canada

Wave 2:
“Nova” Amazon Canada
“Comet” Amazon Canada
“Earth” Amazon Canada
“Hot Gas” Amazon Canada

Wave 3:
“Zodiac” Amazon Canada
“Gravity” Amazon Canada
“Saturn” Amazon Canada
“Lightning” Amazon Canada

Voyagers:

Wave 1:
“Jupiter” Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” Amazon Canada

Wave 2:
“Pluto” Amazon Canada
“Super Nova” Amazon Canada

Wave 3:
“Gamma Beam Grey” Amazon Canada
“Sun” Amazon Canada

Legion:

Wave 1:
“Mars” Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” Amazon Canada
“Four Moons” Amazon Canada

Wave 2:
“Pluto” Amazon Canada
“Gravity” Amazon Canada
“Nova” Amazon Canada

Btw here's some guesswork from the pages of TFW2005 as to who those figs on that list may be
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... 474/page-3

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851506)
Posted by PeterPrime on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:21am CST

So neither of these two are new molds? Optimus looks like a straight up redeco of TF4 Prime and Bee looks like the older masterpiece from around ROTF.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851508)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:33am CST

I think someone left Prime in the toaster a little too long with that shadow spark figure. The leader Bumblebee looks awesome, but it's interesting that they based it off his first movie look instead of his new one.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851509)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:38am CST

PeterPrime wrote:So neither of these two are new molds? Optimus looks like a straight up redeco of TF4 Prime and Bee looks like the older masterpiece from around ROTF.

Its the same toy. I dont know if this means it will be reissued or if its just there for show. Its the same box as the older one too.

Here is our original article on that toy from 2010

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... bee/20462/

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851512)
Posted by dragons on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:50am CST

PeterPrime wrote:So neither of these two are new molds? Optimus looks like a straight up redeco of TF4 Prime and Bee looks like the older masterpiece from around ROTF.

I should have known before I clicked article it bee repaints of two
Figures

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851515)
Posted by Actar on January 10th, 2017 @ 7:16am CST

Is it the same toy, though? All other sources point to Bee being a completely new mold, or at least a heavy, HEAVY retool. A longer neck with collar pieces, extra two back wings, no cannon/guns with proper articulated hands, no electronics, etc... Look, the wheels are no longer at the ankles even and the shin guards end at the same length on both sides. None of the parts look to be shared and the angles and contours of all the pieces are different. They'll obviously look similar because they're the same character, but there a ton of minor differences here and there that seem to indicate a completely new figure.

The box is just a picture of the old "Masterpiece" Movie line with Starscream as the first release. Why is it attached to this figure? I haven't seen the box picture anywhere else, nor have I seen it being referred to by the "MPM-2 monicker" outside of the box.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851521)
Posted by Lackadaisical on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:17am CST

That is Battle Ops Bumblebee I think, by the right hand, so not the Leader of hasbro but a bigger fig, not scaled to none other of the movies. Even tough perhaps one of the best BBB around.

The Optimus looked neat and expensive, until the wheels look backpacked... That looks just awful no matter how great the front is.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851527)
Posted by Actar on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:43am CST

The toy in the picture was mistransformed! The wheels at the side of Bee's legs fold down and sit in his ankles just like in the movie!

That's it. I'm buying two.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851533)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:01am CST

Actar wrote:The toy in the picture was mistransformed! The wheels at the side of Bee's legs fold down and sit in his ankles just like in the movie!

That's it. I'm buying two.

Does that mean that is the same toy afterall? And if so, are we to assum they are simply rereleasing him? Could it be that he is just there as a reminder of his previous look?

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851537)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:11am CST

Ok, so it has differences from that original mold but it is still based on it right?

Also, I just wanted to point out that the Optimus redeco makes no sense for this movie line. His body changed at the end of AOE and that is reflected in the leader retool from Takara. This toy, being for The Last Knight should use that mold to at least reflect those changes. It could have beena chance for Hasbro to release that retool. But no, same leader mold again.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851538)
Posted by Actar on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:17am CST

william-james88 wrote:Ok, so it has differences from that original mold but it is still based on it right?

It is definitely hard to tell, because it's the same character, but I'm putting my money on a new mold as it doesn't seem to share any parts with the previous figure.

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They talk about the figure in this press conference/presentation. It's a new line of Masterpiece movie figures, it's based on the first movie appearance and it seems that the figure will have diecast in it as well.

william-james88 wrote:Also, I just wanted to pint out that the Optimus redeco makes no sense for this movie line. His body changed at the end of AOE and that is reflected in the leader retool from Takara. This toy, being for The Last Knight should use that mold to at least reflect those changes. It could have beena chance for Hasbro to release that retool. But no, same leader mold again.

Agreed 100%. Hopefully this doesn't mean that we won't be getting a new Leader figure down the line.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851546)
Posted by Houstonian Prime on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST

I hope this isn't a sign of what's to come from this next movie. Seeing these two makes me a little weary. A simple repaint to AOE Leader Optimus Prime, which in my opinion wasn't a great figure to begin with. Another ROTF/DOTM Bumblebee. I'm really hoping Hot Rod isn't just a repaint of AOE Deluxe Lockdown, and we get a new mold for Deluxe Drift. This style of marketing is pure evil, using people's anticipation as a ploy to dump off some older, less desirable figures; at a much higher price...

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851558)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:38am CST

Hasbro just sent us a message confirming what we saw this morning and giving us more detail. As it turns out, that is indeed a new Movie Masterpiece Bumblebee, numbered at MPM-3. It is done to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the first film. More linked to the new film, The Last Knight, is the Leader Optimus Redeco with new weapons. Both seem to be Asian editions so it is currently unkown if they will be sold in the west at big box retail. Below is all the info we have from Hasbro, including the prices and official stock images.

Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Leader Shadow Spark Optimus Prime

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $69.99/Available: April 2017)

The explosive Transformers saga continues with Transformers: The Last Knight, and this Asia-Edition Premier Edition Leader Class Shadow Spark Optimus Prime figure allows fans to bring the action home with them. The large-scale figure features incredibly intricate space deco and purple eyes inspired by the movie and converts between robot and truck mode in 20 steps. This 9-inch Optimus Prime figure also comes equipped with two space weapons.

Masterpiece Movie Series Bumblebee MPM-3 Figure

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/Available: July 2017)

This premium movie Bumblebee MPM-3 figure from the Transformers Masterpiece series brings the 10th anniversary of the 1st Transformers movie to life with this film-version of the iconic Autobot scout. This figure includes stunning intricate detailing and 33 steps of articulation, as well as a flip-down battle mask and Chevrolet Camaro design. Whether he’s cruising the highway as a slick Chevrolet Camaro or facing Decepticons in battle, Bumblebee is one of the bravest bots in the universe.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851560)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:41am CST

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851562)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST

Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851564)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:48am CST

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

Missed the news post. Just went for the thread here.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851566)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:53am CST

It is baffling that they went to such lengths to make that neat looking deco and didn't use the retooled Armor Knight version that is more movie-accurate than Hasbro's original version that was instead based more on earlier AOE concept art.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851578)
Posted by Seibertron on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:42am CST

I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851580)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:48am CST

Let's hope these wave are quick and are done quickly.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851587)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CST

william-james88 wrote:

The fully lit stock pictures make the color scheme look quite a bit more bland than the original reveal pics did.

Those arms look super bare. And the rust on the chest looks very much out of place with the shiny blue plastic around.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851593)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:31pm CST

Seibertron wrote:I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

im pretty sure its a retooled dotm version

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851594)
Posted by RAR on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CST

The amusing thing is that someone like Wei Jiang can easily copy the "Nemesis" Optimus Prime deco onto their superior Mould and it would look a lot better too - there is a very premium light up one they keep showing - I do wonder if they just use that for promotional displays or plan to release it.

I think Optimus is going to be 3 different colours in this Movie - initially he will be iced up but look like he did in AOE then he will be this darker muted banged up look with purple eyes (suggestive of Nemesis Prime) and then he might get the Silver Knight Optimus deco they crapped out on from the last Movie - as I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851595)
Posted by MaverickPrime on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CST

Why does everyone asume Bumblebee is a retool? Look at the near perfect proportions, DOTM Bee looked quite clunky, this one looks fit, the wheels ARE the ankles instead of being at the side, the front of the car compresses, the hands are articulated (and I'm pretty sure the wrists can swivel) AND THEY FINALLY GAVE HIM THE LITTLE WINGS!!!(upside down, but meeeeh)

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851598)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST

RAR wrote:I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

yeah, the reason is early on in the development, back when the movie makers were giving the info to Hasbro to plan out the toyline, Optimus was supposed to become a silver knight at the end. However, the dropped the idea during production and his only change is his chest and forearms.

Poor Target, they went all in on that Silver Optimus concept.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851600)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CST

yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851601)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CST

Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

It seems to be! but seeing as this is the Dark Energon(or Shadow Spark as they are officially calling it) version....i guess they were going for a kind of Nemesis dark tone style of paint scheme.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851602)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:17pm CST

Bumblebee21 wrote:yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

Do you think that retooling make it worth double what that figure's price was?

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851604)
Posted by SlyTF1 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:22pm CST

There's a Masterpiece movie line!? Ok, now I have to get a job.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851605)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST

SlyTF1 wrote:There's a Masterpiece movie line!? Ok, now I have to get a job.

But dont worry, until now the line was just toys in the mainline with different paint jobs. Like if you have Leader Starscream and Battle Ops Bumblebee then thats already the first 2. its just that Takara released those same toys in a nice box and called them masterpiece. And now, years later, they are continuing this line.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851610)
Posted by DeathReviews on January 10th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CST

Ah, joy - just what the world needs - MORE Bumblebee figures. Sadly, it doesn't look like the leader Optimus figure for this movie poses any better than the Movie4 leader did. Looks like TR Powermaster Optimus level leg inhibition....

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851626)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 10th, 2017 @ 3:16pm CST

DeathReviews wrote:Ah, joy - just what the world needs - MORE Bumblebee figures. Sadly, it doesn't look like the leader Optimus figure for this movie poses any better than the Movie4 leader did. Looks like TR Powermaster Optimus level leg inhibition....

That's because it's the same figure

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851663)
Posted by cruizerdave on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:12pm CST

Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851676)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 7:41pm CST

cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!

Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851677)
Posted by Kurona on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:03pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!
Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Say that to the Legion Grimlocks and Strafes I still find everywhere :lol:

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851685)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CST

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!
Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Say that to the Legion Grimlocks and Strafes I still find everywhere

Lingering shelfwarmers =/= healthily continuing line.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851695)
Posted by lowman_x on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CST

Looks like someone's been skipping arm day at the gym...

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851698)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CST

So, with regards to the listings of the size classes, I want a voyager Optimus, Megatron, and Onslaught. Hopefully they can nail all 3. Do a fat Hound too please.

Hopefully Sqweeks is a legion. It would suit his size. A deluxe may not hurt either.

Also: That Bumblebee is amazing and I want it. That is a perfect movie Bee

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851716)
Posted by Emerje on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Does anybody think I look cute with glasses?

Looking a little yellow, actually.

But you're right, not only do these figures not share the same parts, I'm positive they aren't even the same size. The previous Bees were Leaders, but I think the new Bee might be closer to the size of normal MP cars, closer to Voyager size.

Why? Well let's compare things that both the pics of SS Optimus Prime and MP Bumblebee have in common.

Check out the pedestal and how much of it he takes up, robot alone. Also take note of the blue name placard below him and how small it looks compared to Prime.

Now look at the same pedestal under Bee and how there's enough space for both the bot and car to fit easily. Also look at how big that blue placard now looks next to Bee. Plus the price is in line with Hasbro's other MP car releases.

I'll be looking forward to seeing how Takara Tomy prices him and can't wait to pair him with their repaint of DotM Leader Optimus Prime.

Emerje

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851719)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:53pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Pretty odd that Hasbro initiated this...

Hence why I am certain they didnt. The first clue is that the item number remains the Takara designation of MPM-3. Hasbro Asia distributes all of Takara's MPs, so it makes perfect sense that they would unveil their latest entry into the MPM line at a show dedicated to the new movie inspired line just as they were the ones who first unveiled MP Dirge, even though that is of course a Takara product. Logically, it would be that Takara initiated this but that their asian distribution partner worked in part of their contract that they would be the ones unveiling it first.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851720)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:55pm CST

cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851721)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:01pm CST

They couldn'tve used the blatantly superior Takara version of the mold for Optimus? I don't know why I'm complaining; I have no plans in delving too far into The Last Knight line anyway, just a few of the new characters and that's it.

So is Bumblebee a brand-spanking-new mold? It looks nice, but again, I've no need for it.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851737)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:13pm CST

Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Does anybody think I look cute with glasses?

Looking a little yellow, actually.

But you're right, not only do these figures not share the same parts, I'm positive they aren't even the same size. The previous Bees were Leaders, but I think the new Bee might be closer to the size of normal MP cars, closer to Voyager size.

Why? Well let's compare things that both the pics of SS Optimus Prime and MP Bumblebee have in common.

Check out the pedestal and how much of it he takes up, robot alone. Also take note of the blue name placard below him and how small it looks compared to Prime.

Now look at the same pedestal under Bee and how there's enough space for both the bot and car to fit easily. Also look at how big that blue placard now looks next to Bee. Plus the price is in line with Hasbro's other MP car releases.

I'll be looking forward to seeing how Takara Tomy prices him and can't wait to pair him with their repaint of DotM Leader Optimus Prime.

Emerje

Hmm... This changes things. I don't have any of the previous big movie Bees; they seem cool enough (or, at least, Battle Ops Bee does), but they just didn't feel like things I needed. But this one possibly actually being in MP scale... I probably shouldn't be getting a toy I might not otherwise care about just because it scales with a scale I collect, but it would be cool to finally have a figure from another continuity in Masterpiece scale.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851750)
Posted by Insurgent on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:27am CST

Is human alliance bee not in mp scale? He'd be cheaper if it's just scale you're after.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851756)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:53am CST

Insurgent wrote:Is human alliance bee not in mp scale? He'd be cheaper if it's just scale you're after.

Yes, he is.

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851767)
Posted by Emerje on January 11th, 2017 @ 7:40am CST

I want scale and accuracy. The HA figure is a nice toy, but the interactive parts really turned me off to them.

Also I bet I can get the Takara Tomy version for much less than Hasbro's just like the rest of the MP cars.

Emerje

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851812)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 10:49am CST

Emerje wrote:I want scale and accuracy. The HA figure is a nice toy, but the interactive parts really turned me off to them.

Also I bet I can get the Takara Tomy version for much less than Hasbro's just like the rest of the MP cars.

Emerje

Then I think this is for you, it is HA scaled:

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851834)
Posted by User897 on January 11th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST

What does HasBLO do with shitty molds that they took flak about?

They repaint and resell them, of course!

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851891)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:21pm CST

I really want that Bumblebee now... *please don't be super expensive please don't be nearly unaffordable*

Re: Leader Class Transformers: The Last Knight Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Masterpiece (1851893)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:24pm CST