Listing Found for Next Transformers Collaborative Project Figure

Intriguing. I have the feeling it won’t be Star Wars, since we’ve already gotten so many crossovers in that area. Starship Troopers would be interesting. No vehicles from that franchise immediately jump out as popular/iconic, but perhaps a Bug-former?

I dont know why they haven't decided to do G.I. Joe, its not hard to do. They got the molds for it and I made it work.

I forget what the code was for the Jurassic Park set (was it just "Jurassic"?), but knowing Hasbro's love for codes then "troop" can be anything as on the nose as a Stormtrooper (or a Darktrooper droid!) or as less obvious as Robocop's car (police trooper). Can't wait to see where they go with this.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I forget what the code was for the Jurassic Park set (was it just "Jurassic"?

It was Project Park, but we all collectively went "oh Jurassic Park" the second the listing showed up because that crossover was rumored beforehand by leakers.

autobot00 wrote:I dont know why they haven't decided to do G.I. Joe, its not hard to do. They got the molds for it and I made it work.

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Technically... G.I. Joe Transformers do exist. The first one that comes to mind is/was Energon Snowcat, who was based off the G.I. Joe vehicle of the same name. Then there is also Viper from Combiner Wars, who even sports a hybrid Cobra/Decepticon logo. He was based off and inspired by the G.I. Joe vehicle 'Rattler'. Then the third is Serpent O.R. who is based off the G.I. Joe villain 'Serpentor'.

I believe these are the only three, I do not recall any other G.I. Joe inspired Transformers that have been released. At least ones that can Transform.

Is that in US dollars? If yes, I expect something big like the Jurassic Park set.

But if the current inflation trend keeps going, I bet it's just a "voyager +" with an absurd marks-up and Canadians will be priced 200$ for it because reasons.

USCM TROOP carriER?

Of all the possible franchises, which ones have a milestone anniversary or a future release coming up. Because I might be wrong, but I think the Collaborative usually tends to match one of those, so it might narrow down our guesses.

MaximalNui wrote:Of all the possible franchises, which ones have a milestone anniversary or a future release coming up. Because I might be wrong, but I think the Collaborative usually tends to match one of those, so it might narrow down our guesses.

You're not wrong. The pattern has been a bit skewed by delays and such (e..g., Top Gun and X-Men '97), but the intention to tie-in to something like that has generally been clear.

Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" was released in 1983, so we're near 40th anniversary.

The film adaptation of Starship Troopers was 1997, so we're at the 25th anniversary.

Aliens was 1986, so we're really not near a sensible time for that, unless they tie marketing into the Alien series that's supposedly coming out.

And Star Wars has made it a habit of premiering something almost every year, so it's a constant possibility.

I'd dismiss the Iron Maiden one since it's a music label, but then I remember J. Balvintron exists.

MaximalNui wrote:And Star Wars has made it a habit of premiering something almost every year, so it's a constant possibility.

I'd dismiss the Iron Maiden one since it's a music label, but then I remember J. Balvintron exists.

Iron Maiden wouldn't have occurred to me, but we actually got Heroclix based on their songs some years ago. It didn't make any sense, but they did it anyway, so...

From out of nowhere it's going to be a VR Troopers crossover.

TROOPER TRANSFORM!!!!

Grahf_ wrote:From out of nowhere it's going to be a VR Troopers crossover.

TROOPER TRANSFORM!!!!

I wonder how Toei will feel about that, licensing 3 shows at the same time

LAWL it’s not Starship Troopers, guys.

Most likely a Storm Trooper that transforms into a TIE fighter or AT-AT or something.

I’m calling it now; it’s based on the band Trooper and transforms into a drumkit and features soundbites of “Raise a Little Hell.”

-Kanrabat- wrote:Is that in US dollars? If yes, I expect something big like the Jurassic Park set.

But if the current inflation trend keeps going, I bet it's just a "voyager +" with an absurd marks-up and Canadians will be priced 200$ for it because reasons.

The Jurassic Park set was $104 USD if I remember right. It's probably pointless to read too much into the prices since they're so inconsistent. Deluxe Draculus was $32, Maverick was $50 and Leader Ultimate Ex-Panse was nearly $70 so this price doesn't match a single Leader or a Leader/Deluxe two pack like the JP set. A Deluxe and a Voyager with a little padding from inflation would equal $90.

Thinking about some of the suggestions I've got a few ideas:
Star Wars - Deluxe Snowspeeder and Voyager AT-AT (Speeder would probably be the size of Origin Bumblebee)
Starship Troopers - Deluxe tank ( Warpath is long overdue for a reuse!) and Voyager bug
Robocop - Deluxe police car and Voyager ED-209.
G.I. Joe - Deluxe HISS Tank and Voyager Skystriker (Maverick retool?)

Emerje

Unless that AF just means "Action Figure"... I'm leaning towards G.I. Joe

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Unless that AF just means "Action Figure"... I'm leaning towards G.I. Joe

Pretty sure that's what AF is since it's a Gamestop listing.

Also, and I hope I'm not alone here, but if it IS G.I.Joe and they give it a BS Collaborative price hike I'm going to be pissed since no additional licensing is involved.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Is that in US dollars? If yes, I expect something big like the Jurassic Park set.

But if the current inflation trend keeps going, I bet it's just a "voyager +" with an absurd marks-up and Canadians will be priced 200$ for it because reasons.

The Jurassic Park set was $104 USD if I remember right. It's probably pointless to read too much into the prices since they're so inconsistent. Deluxe Draculus was $32, Maverick was $50 and Leader Ultimate Ex-Panse was nearly $70 so this price doesn't match a single Leader or a Leader/Deluxe two pack like the JP set. A Deluxe and a Voyager with a little padding from inflation would equal $90.


Emerje

No matter what, Canadians will still get screwed in the end by being charged around 50% more than Americans. It will be the "waiting for clearance" game or "import it from Amazon.jp" when on sale.

I got my Draculus and JP set at the same normal American price with no shipping costs because they where on clearance. As for the Maverick, I imported it form Japan for only 3300JPY (plus shipping but I ordered other things to go with it.)

There's no point for me to ever preorder a X-Over toy. It will be so overpriced that only some few hardcores will buy. There will still be plenty of stock to go on sale and clearance down the line.

Now if only the Afterlife Ectotron could go down at being 60$can like the first version... It will be hard because Toys R Us kept increasing it's price to absurd level and is now a whopping 110$can! If they ever make a sale, I bet it will only go back to the initial 80$can and no less.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Unless that AF just means "Action Figure"... I'm leaning towards G.I. Joe

AF means action figure

Anyone else wondering if "AF TRA Project Trooper 1" means there may also be a project trooper 2?

Whatever happened to “Amazon Prime” Optimus Prime?

Ok, so the thing they are doing is focusing on anniversaries and celebrations. This is not an anniversary celebration year for GI Joe (50th was in 1995 and next year is anniversary for cartoon release) so maybe a little less likely on that. Startship Troopers, on the other had, was released in 1997, making this year the 25th anniversary. We're a year late on Halo and I don't think they'd allow the licensing. Warhammer 40k has its 35th anniversary this year.

Any other ideas? Not poo-pooing GI Joe as a possibility, just that they seem to be focusing on anniversaries and celebrations.

According to one of the credible leakers (JTPrime17) last night:
-It is a GI Joe set
-It is the first of 2 sets
-Unless plans have changed, it is going to include a pre-existing TF character
-$90 is indeed the price
-It'll be revealed during the next upcoming GI Joe reveals

I'd still love a real SERPEN O.R. I liked what they did with him in that old comic. Totally unlikely, but still.

I'd also love to see Cobra Commander riding Starscream. Don't see how that's possible. But still.

But I gotta say ... the 89 Batmobile and the Enterprise, people! Get on those licenses!

Nemesis Primal wrote:According to one of the credible leakers (JTPrime17) last night:
-It is a GI Joe set
-It is the first of 2 sets
-Unless plans have changed, it is going to include a pre-existing TF character
-$90 is indeed the price
-It'll be revealed during the next upcoming GI Joe reveals

Maybe this would be a way to put out "Earthrise" Hound?

Thanks to our usual reliable insider that prefers to go unnamed we've got some possible insight on the next Collaborative set that was recently listed at Gamestop. It appears we're finally getting not one but two long awaited crossover sets with G.I. Joe!

-It is a GI Joe set
-It is the first of 2 sets
-Unless plans have changed, it is going to include a pre-existing TF character
-$90 is indeed the price
-It'll be revealed during the next upcoming GI Joe reveals

Sounds like we wont be waiting long for our first look! Details like if they'll be compatible with Joe figures or release timeframe haven't been given yet, but we should have all of that info in due time if it everything pans out.

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So I have to wonder about something. $90 is a lot for a two figure set when Hasbro doesn't have to pay for a license fee this time around. So that makes me wonder if maybe maybe this time around the set isn't two Transformers, but a Transformer and one of the new 3 3/4" Joe figures that can ride inside it? So instead of including a tiny Joe to scale with Transformers, what if it's a big transformer that's to scale with G.I. Joe? That price is basically Commander Class Plus and there's a lot they could do with that. I doubt we'll see another Jetfire, but something smaller like a single passenger Dragonfly that turns into Whirl and comes with Wild Bill would be pretty cool and totally possible being such a skinny chopper that would work perfectly with lanky Whirl. The wording "pre-existing TF character" and not "pre-existing TF toy" means to me that it's going to include a familiar character rather than a new one like Ectotron or Gigawatt, not that it's going to repack an existing toy. I'm also going to guess one good set and one evil set.

Very excited about the prospects here. I doubt they can really disappoint me no matter what direction they take, this is something I've been waiting for since the first Marvel crossover.

Emerje

While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Emerje wrote:So I have to wonder about something. $90 is a lot for a two figure set when Hasbro doesn't have to pay for a license fee this time around. So that makes me wonder if maybe maybe this time around the set isn't two Transformers, but a Transformer and one of the new 3 3/4" Joe figures that can ride inside it? So instead of including a tiny Joe to scale with Transformers, what if it's a big transformer that's to scale with G.I. Joe? That price is basically Commander Class Plus and there's a lot they could do with that. I doubt we'll see another Jetfire, but something smaller like a single passenger Dragonfly that turns into Whirl and comes with Wild Bill would be pretty cool and totally possible being such a skinny chopper that would work perfectly with lanky Whirl. The wording "pre-existing TF character" and not "pre-existing TF toy" means to me that it's going to include a familiar character rather than a new one like Ectotron or Gigawatt, not that it's going to repack an existing toy. I'm also going to guess one good set and one evil set.

Very excited about the prospects here. I doubt they can really disappoint me no matter what direction they take, this is something I've been waiting for since the first Marvel crossover.

Emerje

It's a decent theory, and provides a target for speculation, but I don't know how likely it is. At that price point it would need to be at least a Leader size, and a cockpit or other space to include a 3.75" figure would limit mold reuse beyond the collaboration. I would really like to see this, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

As an alternative possibility, it could be a retool of one of the recent bikes like Wreck-Gar or Arcee and include a 6" Classified figure, or even two. There's been a lot of merch recently with Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow on bikes. You'd need two Joe's to get to the $90 price point.

Less interestingly, it could also be something like the X-Men collaboration and just include microfigures that don't interact with the set at all. Hopefully we'll find out soon. (Edit: the leaker and this post say it'll be at the next event, Friday's livestream. That doesn't give us much time, we need to speculate faster.)

Perhaps a voyager and a deluxe. Or maybe two voyagers. I bet they keep the price point at $90 and simply rake in extra profits. They probably justify the price based on it being an exclusive.

My guess: Earthrise Starscream repainted as the Skystriker

What did they do in the comics?

I think the R.H.I.N.O. as Battletrap would make a lot of sense. It separates into an attack helicopter and 4 wheeled vehicle, it makes sense thematically and the colour scheme even works.

If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Maybe we could see a retool/repaint of the Top Gun Maverick... and nothing else.

Never underestimate the markup of these X-Over toys.

Overcracker wrote:If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Based on the price and design I considered TR Overlord too, but instead of the Rhino, I would do it as a more traditional tank and the Night Raven jet, with the character changed to Megatron. The main problem I had with it is that while the Joes had the Mauler, I couldn't find a Cobra version of a classic tank.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Overcracker wrote:If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Based on the price and design I considered TR Overlord too, but instead of the Rhino, I would do it as a more traditional tank and the Night Raven jet, with the character changed to Megatron. The main problem I had with it is that while the Joes had the Mauler, I couldn't find a Cobra version of a classic tank.

This is the only one I know of: http://www.toyarchive.com/Gi-Joe/Vehicl ... sTank.html

It would work with The Raven and the C.A.T tank. The robot does not really need to be a transformers character as seen on previous x-overs.

And the Skyshadow mold even has the little drone that can be used as the Sttrato Viper that came with Night Raven.

Overcracker wrote:The robot does not really need to be a transformers character as seen on previous x-overs.

In this case, it does according to the leaker, who has been pretty solid on the info given in the past.

"-Unless plans have changed, it is going to include a pre-existing TF character"

That still leaves things pretty wide open, but I would bet on the bot mode being someone from the franchise.

What would suck would be just re-releases of some of the Human Alliance figures with just the mini-figs retooled to be various Joes or Cobras. Wait, that actually might not be too bad...

TK415 wrote:My guess: Earthrise Starscream repainted as the Skystriker

What did they do in the comics?

Which ones? There were several crossovers in comics by different publishers. The original Marvel run of both franchises had a 4-issue crossover miniseries, plus a comic where Cobra found and rebuilt Megatron into his G2 body; Dreamwave had a crossover set in WWII (and therefore the most unlikely to use as a reference); Devil's Due Publishing had Cobra find the dormant Transformers, refit them into typical GI Joe/Cobra vehicles and remotely control them - until they inevitably awaken and break free - and also created Serpent O.R., while GI Joe mostly used mechs; and the IDW crossover series by Tom Scioli which...I can hardly understand what's going on there, honestly.

So, from my guess, the pre-existing character will be either G2 Megatron, Serpent O.R., or one of the many Transformers already based on GI Joe vehicles (Snow Cat, Skyhammer, Viper...). Though it could also be another, more well-known character adapted to a GI Joe vehicle, like the Devil's Due Publishing comics or the Earth Wars event.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Do you normally call one figure a set? You said it yourself, the leak specifically says the one listed at Gamestop is a set and there will be two sets. We should be getting at least two figures in each set, what kind of figures they are is anyone's guess.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Excited to finally get our first full fledged TRANSFORMING crossover between two of Hasbro's most iconic franchises without being hidden behind unrelated series?

nah I'm good.

Emerje wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Do you normally call one figure a set? You said it yourself, the leak specifically says the one listed at Gamestop is a set and there will be two sets. We should be getting at least two figures in each set, what kind of figures they are is anyone's guess.

Emerje

Point taken.

On to predictions. It would make sense to have the Joe set first, but given the codename, perhaps a Cobra Trooper or B.A.T. themed set? I could see a B.A.T. being a good choice for a transforming robot, though it has been done before.

That pic of the vehicle seems to me very similar to siege ironhide/ratchet. Also, the hole on the very front of the vehicle reminds me of a combiner hand/foot port. Or could it be a hole to combine two vehicles like the micomaster set Countdown and... sorry can't remember the other vehicle...they were both blue decepticon missile carrier vehicles i think.

SciFi80sGameFan wrote:That pic of the vehicle seems to me very similar to siege ironhide/ratchet. Also, the hole on the very front of the vehicle reminds me of a combiner hand/foot port. Or could it be a hole to combine two vehicles like the micomaster set Countdown and... sorry can't remember the other vehicle...they were both blue decepticon missile carrier vehicles i think.

The figure in the picture is Energon Snowcat from 2004. I tried using something fairly recent that most of us would recognize to prevent confusion, but I guess there was bound to be people who weren't familiar with it. Maybe I should have used another picture of original Wild Weasel riding on CW Viper.

Emerje

Evidently the Gamestop listing has now updated to say "Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set", so I guess that solves that.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Evidently the Gamestop listing has now updated to say "Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set", so I guess that solves that.

Oh?

Looking forward the actual reveal.

If it's yet another Siege repaint with just your standard action figure thrown in, it will be a hard pass. But if there's some original molds here...

Megatron, eh? Hm. I have Genesis Megatron leading the (few) bad guys I have on my Crossover shelf ... I guess he can be Megaplex or something.

Where will that leave Prime (if Megatron is a Hiss tank I mean)? Because the other one is obviously going to be Prime.

There was a good chance that the next collaborative project, codenamed Trooper, was going to be GI Joe based. And now we have further proof. We have a web link for a Gamestop product called Transformers x GI Joe Collaborative Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set. The link is currently inactive. It will probably be active tomorrow to coincide with the GI Joe event happening at 11. You can get more info on that here.

The scale is said to be 3.75 inch, making that $90 quite expensive. But remember, Hasbro never made the GI Joe brand more affordable than figures which they have to pay a license for, hence why the 6 inch marvel legends are the same price point as 6 inch GI Joe classified figures.

Below is an image of what the HISS tank looks like for those unaware. We will post what this product actually looks like when it is revealed.

I'm surprised they went with Megatron instead of Soundwave, but Megs is probably a much safer bet for profitability.
Either way I'm very keen to see how it looks!

If Megatron turns into 3.75" scale HISS tank he's much larger than a leader class figure. Definitely comparable to Rodimus.