More Buzzworthy Bumblebee Products Revealed- Including Studio Series 74 ROTF Bumblebee

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm sure it will be fine. Bumblebee is a very popular character. It's not like they over did it before, and it stung them in the ass. Once they're released I'm sure we'll all be feeling the buzz!

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ZeroWolf wrote:
This appears to be how ROTF Bumblebee will get its regular release, compared to the others which are all repackaged re-releases.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:
This appears to be how ROTF Bumblebee will get its regular release, compared to the others which are all repackaged re-releases.

Did that ROTF BB toy not have a regular release? What's the difference with the previous release of that mold?

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm sure it will be fine. Bumblebee is a very popular character. It's not like they over did it before, and it stung them in the ass. Once they're released I'm sure we'll all be feeling the buzz!

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aronjlove wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:
This appears to be how ROTF Bumblebee will get its regular release, compared to the others which are all repackaged re-releases.

Did that ROTF BB toy not have a regular release? What's the difference with the previous release of that mold?

Technically, since it is #74 and #72 Bumblebee Starscream is barely up for pre-order, this is the first release, no?

william-james88 wrote:What's the difference between this and ss49 mold wise?

aronjlove wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What's the difference between this and ss49 mold wise?

Oh, I didn't realize this had been released as SS49. I was going by the numbers on the new boxes and the fact that the other three had their original entry numbers, I assumed this was new. I guess the inclusion of the Sam figure warrants a number change?

william-james88 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What's the difference between this and ss49 mold wise?

Oh, I didn't realize this had been released as SS49. I was going by the numbers on the new boxes and the fact that the other three had their original entry numbers, I assumed this was new. I guess the inclusion of the Sam figure warrants a number change?

All good points though I do wonder what the difference is between that bee mold and ss49.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:
This appears to be how ROTF Bumblebee will get its regular release, compared to the others which are all repackaged re-releases.

Did that ROTF BB toy not have a regular release? What's the difference with the previous release of that mold?

First-Aid wrote:The horse is dead, dismembered, rotting, diseased, mostly decomposed, and Hasbro is still beating it...

Please make it stop.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:The horse is dead, dismembered, rotting, diseased, mostly decomposed, and Hasbro is still beating it...

Please make it stop.

Well Thew did say in a recent video that we wouldn't have gotten titan scorponok without selling a few bumblebee's but I didn't think hasbro would take it this far

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:
This appears to be how ROTF Bumblebee will get its regular release, compared to the others which are all repackaged re-releases.

Did that ROTF BB toy not have a regular release? What's the difference with the previous release of that mold?

The grill, hood, and side panels with the tires have been remolded for the ROTF version of the Camaro. The yellow color is more orange-ish and accurate, and the gray of the original figure has been replaced with a lighter gray.

First-Aid wrote:The horse is dead, dismembered, rotting, diseased, mostly decomposed, and Hasbro is still beating it...

Please make it stop.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What's the difference between this and ss49 mold wise?

Oh, I didn't realize this had been released as SS49. I was going by the numbers on the new boxes and the fact that the other three had their original entry numbers, I assumed this was new. I guess the inclusion of the Sam figure warrants a number change?

All good points though I do wonder what the difference is between that bee mold and ss49.

The deco.







Plus, they updated the vehicle to the 2010 concept, while #49 has the 2008 one from the first movie.

griftimus prime wrote:so no reason to buy any of these.

aronjlove wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:so no reason to buy any of these.

Not if you already have them, only one appears to be different. I'm assuming the rerelease is an opportunity for those who missed out. I'd rather buy one of these than pay eBay prices for the original release.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:so no reason to buy any of these.

Not if you already have them, only one appears to be different. I'm assuming the rerelease is an opportunity for those who missed out. I'd rather buy one of these than pay eBay prices for the original release.

Actually, 2 out of the 3 have some changes. SS15 comes without all the extras, so if someone only wanted the car and Charlie they now have a cheaper option. WWII been looks to have some cammo painted on vehicle mode now, the original was plain green.

And IF they managed to fix the tolerance issues on Shatter, that would make it 3 for 3. That is the one I'm most curious about. I don't really care about the screen accuracy, it would be a fun toy if it didn't fall a part.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:The horse is dead, dismembered, rotting, diseased, mostly decomposed, and Hasbro is still beating it...

Please make it stop.

Well Thew did say in a recent video that we wouldn't have gotten titan scorponok without selling a few bumblebee's but I didn't think hasbro would take it this far

You gotta keep in mind that Bumblebee was the horse that drew the movie's carriage, plus the movie also serves as a motor vehicle advertisement, mostly from GE. As such, Bumblebee has no less than 10(!) vehicle modes total, one for every Camaro model year featured throughout the 5 main movies (at least 7!), his Cybertronian modes, WWII and Beetle. And they all need to be represented at least once.

william-james88 wrote:You say that but the best selling tf toy of 2017 was this bumblebee figure below, a poor redeco of an older Bumblebee mold, which actually sold out at initial retail even though fans mostly ignored it AND prices had gone up by 33% globally.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:WWII been looks to have some cammo painted on vehicle mode now, the original was plain green.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:WWII been looks to have some cammo painted on vehicle mode now, the original was plain green.

No, the original release has that too, it's just very faint and was way more visible in the pre-release shots like these. Doesn't look to me like anything changed here unless they actually made that darker, I'm pretty sure the box even uses the exact same render.

aronjlove wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:so no reason to buy any of these.

Not if you already have them, only one appears to be different. I'm assuming the rerelease is an opportunity for those who missed out. I'd rather buy one of these than pay eBay prices for the original release.

Actually, 2 out of the 3 have some changes. SS15 comes without all the extras, so if someone only wanted the car and Charlie they now have a cheaper option. WWII been looks to have some cammo painted on vehicle mode now, the original was plain green.

And IF they managed to fix the tolerance issues on Shatter, that would make it 3 for 3. That is the one I'm most curious about. I don't really care about the screen accuracy, it would be a fun toy if it didn't fall a part.

Huh, ok, then that makes it weird the other two still have their original entry number and not a new number like the ROTF Bee with Sam. That's what has me confused.

Sabrblade wrote:^ I wish my stores looked that well stocked.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:My question is, how many Bumblebees will be found loose or MIB, MISB on the secondary market 5-10 years from now? Just because parents buy them, doesn't mean kids want them.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:^ I wish my stores looked that well stocked.

No bumblebees though (for any parent looking).

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:^ I wish my stores looked that well stocked.

No bumblebees though (for any parent looking).

Which is obviously why Hasbro likes to stick Bumblebee's name on as many products as they can, be it his own movie, Bumblebee Cyberverse Adventures, or Buzzworthy Bumblebee. "Did the kid say he wanted a figure of Bumblebee or from Bumblebee? Whatever, this says Bumblebee on it, I'll buy it."

Can't believe Hasbro hasn't done another multi generation box set like the old Legacy set. Pack together Deluxe figures from one of the movies, the Netflix figure, and Cyberverse.



Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:My question is, how many Bumblebees will be found loose or MIB, MISB on the secondary market 5-10 years from now? Just because parents buy them, doesn't mean kids want them.

Hasbro should only care about the primary market, that's the only one that results in money for them. And right now, Bumblebee has been consistently selling well in the primary market.

First-Aid wrote:Hasbro's goal is to recapture the magic of Transformers...that perfect balance that made G1 such a huge hit, that caused the resurgence during Beast Wars, Animated, Movieverse, and Prime. The last couple series have been flops (RiD2 and Cyberverse). The question is this: can Hasbro figure out WHY. Personally, I can tell you why: because it's all about Bumblebee. ALL about Bumblebee. He's the feature, the emphasis, the plot, the be-all end-all of those series...and that dramatically limits what can be done writing-wise. The series I mentioned had a diverse cast, not a single focus: it allowed for better writing, diverse plots, and a wide array of directions to take as well as less redundant toys. Yes, they are aimed at kids, but I think that if you hook the parents and they can enjoy the show too you're going to secure a bigger market share. When a show does nothing but annoy parents (looking at YOU, you purple piece of shiesse dinosaur) I think it damages the brand and parents are less apt to buy it.

Examples of shows that won both adult and children audience include the Golden Age of Cartoon Network: Dexter's Laboratory, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo; Scooby Doo, Batman the Animated Series and its spinoffs (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Superman the Animated Series); Flintstones; Teen Titans; Ultimate Spiderman; Ren and Stimpy. All of those cartoons STILL hold a massive appeal today thanks to good writing, focusing on a diverse cast, and the appeal to both adults and children. Shows that appeal to children only tend to annoy adults (F*$%@ing Barney) and shows that focus on adults tend to go over children's heads. G1 found that perfect balance, as did Beast Wars, Animated, and Prime- those are, from a marketing standpoint, the Gold Standards. The Movieverse- as absurd as it was for us as fans- ended up appealing to kids thanks to BB, but Hasbro seems to have latched onto that as a Golden Goose because it was unexpected and are riding it right in to the ground. One can hope that the next iteration after Cyberverse has more balanced appeal.

First-Aid wrote:Hasbro's goal is to recapture the magic of Transformers...that perfect balance that made G1 such a huge hit, that caused the resurgence during Beast Wars, Animated, Movieverse, and Prime. The last couple series have been flops (RiD2 and Cyberverse). The question is this: can Hasbro figure out WHY. Personally, I can tell you why: because it's all about Bumblebee. ALL about Bumblebee. He's the feature, the emphasis, the plot, the be-all end-all of those series...and that dramatically limits what can be done writing-wise. The series I mentioned had a diverse cast, not a single focus: it allowed for better writing, diverse plots, and a wide array of directions to take as well as less redundant toys. Yes, they are aimed at kids, but I think that if you hook the parents and they can enjoy the show too you're going to secure a bigger market share. When a show does nothing but annoy parents (looking at YOU, you purple piece of shiesse dinosaur) I think it damages the brand and parents are less apt to buy it.

Examples of shows that won both adult and children audience include the Golden Age of Cartoon Network: Dexter's Laboratory, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo; Scooby Doo, Batman the Animated Series and its spinoffs (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Superman the Animated Series); Flintstones; Teen Titans; Ultimate Spiderman; Ren and Stimpy. All of those cartoons STILL hold a massive appeal today thanks to good writing, focusing on a diverse cast, and the appeal to both adults and children. Shows that appeal to children only tend to annoy adults (F*$%@ing Barney) and shows that focus on adults tend to go over children's heads. G1 found that perfect balance, as did Beast Wars, Animated, and Prime- those are, from a marketing standpoint, the Gold Standards. The Movieverse- as absurd as it was for us as fans- ended up appealing to kids thanks to BB, but Hasbro seems to have latched onto that as a Golden Goose because it was unexpected and are riding it right in to the ground. One can hope that the next iteration after Cyberverse has more balanced appeal.

First-Aid wrote:Hasbro's goal is to recapture the magic of Transformers...that perfect balance that made G1 such a huge hit, that caused the resurgence during Beast Wars, Animated, Movieverse, and Prime. The last couple series have been flops (RiD2 and Cyberverse). The question is this: can Hasbro figure out WHY. Personally, I can tell you why: because it's all about Bumblebee. ALL about Bumblebee. He's the feature, the emphasis, the plot, the be-all end-all of those series...and that dramatically limits what can be done writing-wise. The series I mentioned had a diverse cast, not a single focus: it allowed for better writing, diverse plots, and a wide array of directions to take as well as less redundant toys. Yes, they are aimed at kids, but I think that if you hook the parents and they can enjoy the show too you're going to secure a bigger market share. When a show does nothing but annoy parents (looking at YOU, you purple piece of shiesse dinosaur) I think it damages the brand and parents are less apt to buy it.

Examples of shows that won both adult and children audience include the Golden Age of Cartoon Network: Dexter's Laboratory, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo; Scooby Doo, Batman the Animated Series and its spinoffs (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Superman the Animated Series); Flintstones; Teen Titans; Ultimate Spiderman; Ren and Stimpy. All of those cartoons STILL hold a massive appeal today thanks to good writing, focusing on a diverse cast, and the appeal to both adults and children. Shows that appeal to children only tend to annoy adults (F*$%@ing Barney) and shows that focus on adults tend to go over children's heads. G1 found that perfect balance, as did Beast Wars, Animated, and Prime- those are, from a marketing standpoint, the Gold Standards. The Movieverse- as absurd as it was for us as fans- ended up appealing to kids thanks to BB, but Hasbro seems to have latched onto that as a Golden Goose because it was unexpected and are riding it right in to the ground. One can hope that the next iteration after Cyberverse has more balanced appeal.

First-Aid wrote:Hasbro's goal is to recapture the magic of Transformers...that perfect balance that made G1 such a huge hit, that caused the resurgence during Beast Wars, Animated, Movieverse, and Prime. The last couple series have been flops (RiD2 and Cyberverse). The question is this: can Hasbro figure out WHY. Personally, I can tell you why: because it's all about Bumblebee. ALL about Bumblebee. He's the feature, the emphasis, the plot, the be-all end-all of those series...and that dramatically limits what can be done writing-wise. The series I mentioned had a diverse cast, not a single focus: it allowed for better writing, diverse plots, and a wide array of directions to take as well as less redundant toys. Yes, they are aimed at kids, but I think that if you hook the parents and they can enjoy the show too you're going to secure a bigger market share. When a show does nothing but annoy parents (looking at YOU, you purple piece of shiesse dinosaur) I think it damages the brand and parents are less apt to buy it.

Examples of shows that won both adult and children audience include the Golden Age of Cartoon Network: Dexter's Laboratory, Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo; Scooby Doo, Batman the Animated Series and its spinoffs (Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Superman the Animated Series); Flintstones; Teen Titans; Ultimate Spiderman; Ren and Stimpy. All of those cartoons STILL hold a massive appeal today thanks to good writing, focusing on a diverse cast, and the appeal to both adults and children. Shows that appeal to children only tend to annoy adults (F*$%@ing Barney) and shows that focus on adults tend to go over children's heads. G1 found that perfect balance, as did Beast Wars, Animated, and Prime- those are, from a marketing standpoint, the Gold Standards. The Movieverse- as absurd as it was for us as fans- ended up appealing to kids thanks to BB, but Hasbro seems to have latched onto that as a Golden Goose because it was unexpected and are riding it right in to the ground. One can hope that the next iteration after Cyberverse has more balanced appeal.

william-james88 wrote:My toysrus was nicely stocked but as you will see, not one Bumblebee to be found. Sold out from every line. There's a demand out there that Hasbro has to supply.

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:My toysrus was nicely stocked but as you will see, not one Bumblebee to be found. Sold out from every line. There's a demand out there that Hasbro has to supply.

What's in the case packings that are on the shelves right now? Are they sold out or have that simply not gotten any because of the case packing?