More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline
Thursday, December 22nd, 2022 11:23PM CST
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Fellow Seibertronian Gotbot made a video and in that video he shares new listings he found. JT Prime 17 was able to cross reference some and give us more detailed listings along with just more listings in general. For the Movie/SS side of things we have the news that there will be a voyager assortment in the Rise of the Beasts mainline along with the Studio Series line. So not only will there be 2 different deluxes for the same characters, but there will be 2 different voyagers for the same characters too, like Rhinox. Also, while Cheetor will be a voyager price point in the SS line, he will be a deluxe release in the mainline. And while Optimus Primal will be a leader price point in the SS line, he will be released as a voyager in the ROTB mainline.
There was also a severe lack of Optimus Prime in the SS movie line. Well now we see that there will be a voyager Optimus in the ROTB mainline. Plus, there will be a multipack in the Buzzworthy line. For now, here is all the new info we have:
ROTB Mainline:
Tra TF7 Deluxe Butch (Cheetor)
Tra TF7 Core Voyager Assortment (Product Number: F5476) which includes:
Tra TF7 Voyager Optimus Prime
Tra TF7 Voyager Rhinox
Tra TF7 Voyager Optimus Primal
Buzzworthy:
Tra BB TF7 Jungle mission escape Pack
SS 86 2pack
SS leader reissue
Studio series:
Tra Gen studio series dlx WFC Infantry (this refers to the WFC video game)
Here is a full list of the listings shared by Gotbot:
Ex-BB movie 7 Huricane at $22.99 CAD
Collab 2 $149.99 CAD
Collab 3 $47.99 CAD
Collab 4 $114.99 CAD
Collab 5 $59.99 CAD
Collab 6 $47.99 CAD
TF Gen Fan Exclusive 2 $76.99 CAD
Generations MPM $236.99 CAD
Selects 1 $35.99 CAD
Selects 2 $299.99 CAD
Selects 3 $35.99 CAD
Transformers BB SS Deluxe 1 $35.99 CAD
BB SS 3 $76.99 (August release) CAD
BB SS 4 $47.99 (August release) CAD
TF Gen BB SS Leader 1 $76.99 CAD
BB SS Voyager 2 $47.99 CAD
SS Comander class $134.99 CAD
M7 Animatronic changer $189.99 CAD
TF GEN BB SS TF-86 2 pack $76.99 CAD
Legacy BB SS deluxe $35.99 CAD
Legacy BB Voyager $45.99 CAD
There was also a severe lack of Optimus Prime in the SS movie line. Well now we see that there will be a voyager Optimus in the ROTB mainline. Plus, there will be a multipack in the Buzzworthy line. For now, here is all the new info we have:
ROTB Mainline:
Tra TF7 Deluxe Butch (Cheetor)
Tra TF7 Core Voyager Assortment (Product Number: F5476) which includes:
Tra TF7 Voyager Optimus Prime
Tra TF7 Voyager Rhinox
Tra TF7 Voyager Optimus Primal
Buzzworthy:
Tra BB TF7 Jungle mission escape Pack
SS 86 2pack
SS leader reissue
Studio series:
Tra Gen studio series dlx WFC Infantry (this refers to the WFC video game)
Here is a full list of the listings shared by Gotbot:
Ex-BB movie 7 Huricane at $22.99 CAD
Collab 2 $149.99 CAD
Collab 3 $47.99 CAD
Collab 4 $114.99 CAD
Collab 5 $59.99 CAD
Collab 6 $47.99 CAD
TF Gen Fan Exclusive 2 $76.99 CAD
Generations MPM $236.99 CAD
Selects 1 $35.99 CAD
Selects 2 $299.99 CAD
Selects 3 $35.99 CAD
Transformers BB SS Deluxe 1 $35.99 CAD
BB SS 3 $76.99 (August release) CAD
BB SS 4 $47.99 (August release) CAD
TF Gen BB SS Leader 1 $76.99 CAD
BB SS Voyager 2 $47.99 CAD
SS Comander class $134.99 CAD
M7 Animatronic changer $189.99 CAD
TF GEN BB SS TF-86 2 pack $76.99 CAD
Legacy BB SS deluxe $35.99 CAD
Legacy BB Voyager $45.99 CAD
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Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152262)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 23rd, 2022 @ 2:03am CST
I'm not the least bit surprised there are far fewer Optimus Prime toys here than for any previous live action film. It's a sound marketing decision on Hasbro's part, because the average casual fan simply doesn't understand that Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal are not the same character, and still won't get it even after seeing the two of them interact on the big screen.
I know I sound like an irredeemably snobbish "TRUE FAN" s#itting on others, since this is basic logic and common sense to every Seibertronian, but seriously, I learned this from my 14 years working at Toys'R'Us, even if I can't quite explain the psychology behind it. Please hear me out.
My first evidence of this came shortly before the first BayFormers came out, during a conversation with a coworker, a few years my junior, who seemed to be a big fan of the G1 toon, and whose older brother was a collector. When I mentioned Beast Wars, she immediately responded, "You can't make Optimus Prime no monkey!" So I naturally explained that Primal wasn't the same character, but before I could explain how they found the Ark in The Agenda, she just started laughing her ass off at me. "What's so funny? That's just the basic premise of Beast W--" She found this so funny that she couldn't stop laughing for at least half a minute. I certainly wasn't offended or anything, just confused. At least it happened before I bored her to death with my views on where Earth Force splintered off from the rest of Marvel continuity.
At the risk of getting off track, maybe "casual" isn't the right word here, because Transformers DID indeed mean a lot to her, as I learned the first time we spoke AFTER that first Bay film. Sweet Primus To put this in perspective, I forced myself to watch all of Beast Machines that I might judge fairly its worthiness as a sequel to the series that saved the TF franchise in its darkest hour, and it felt like 2 seasons of watching half my favorite BW characters get brutally raped until their minds broke. I'm sorry that's offensive, and if I ever find a better analogy that more accurately describes how I felt watching it, I'll edit this post. I will never soften on that, BUT, I also never got half as pissed at BM as my coworker was at that first live action film. She was so mad that she couldn't articulate more than one sentence, just seething, like Bay had murdered her childhood pet and the cops had just laughed at her like she laughed about Primal. GEEZ. Never talked to her about TF again...well, until Combiner Wars.
Sorry, I just needed to provide context.
While I never met anyone that pissed about Transformers again, at least that incident was technically understandable, more than I can say for what happened after Dark of the Moon came out, which was just plain weird. IDR if this was opening weekend or the Saturday after because I don't rush to see movies opening day, something I still regret not doing for DotM, since being the store's resident TF expert, I was charged with manning an event table near the entrance where I was demonstrating a few Cyberverse toys, mostly Megatron with full trailer. Two little boys, genuinely concerned about the events of the film, came up and asked me: "Why did Optimus Prime turn evil?!?" In the rare moment when the youngest, most impressionable fans desperately needed my authoritative knowledge on TF, I had no idea what to tell them, couldn't even hazard a guess, and felt unworthy of my post for the rest of the day.
(Again this was DotM, not TLK)
Hours later, a different coworker than the one 4 years prior who'd also seen DotM verified what the boys had said by mentioning, "Y'know, it's funny, I had a dream once when I was a kid where it was the reverse, and I was running away from Optimus and trying to get to Megatron." I certainly didn't want spoilers, so I didn't ask her to elaborate, but went into the theater a few days later, looking forward to having all this confusion cleared up.
But as everyone reading this knows by now, it never will be. And I will forever kick myself for dragging my feet to see Bay's third #!&*ing masterpiece, and not being able to ask them exactly what they meant.
Now, as Shockwave would doubtlessly have told me if he'd had more dialogue, logically, all three of these people must have thought that Sentinel Prime was...also Optimus Prime. That being two Primes who turned into largely red trucks meant they were both the same character, somehow.
I wonder what will happen if a DCCU movie has Superman fight Captain Marvel/SHAZAM: will filmgoers see them as both being Superman, despite all the character development the Big Red Cheese will have from two movies centered around him?
Maybe it's also the sheer number of toys Op has gotten over the years. Next to each other on store shelves, displayed in someone's collection, or on the floor as kids are playing with them, they are indeed different Optimus Primes coexisting, usually without the rationale of a Multiverse or clones that fiction should necessitate, so that gets one used to there simply being more than one Optimus Prime without any logical explanation. Hasbro's probably assuming most shoppers will see all the RotB Optimus Primal toys as just more toys of Optimus Prime, and be too overwhelmed and confused if there are very many toys that are actually RotB Optimus Prime. There'll be other Ops from other sublines next to them to boot, so they have no choice but to largely hold off on O.P. toys until after the movie's come and gone, ironic as it is.
Of course, I could be wrong, because it's still illogical in a way that I probably couldn't explain even if I had a masters in psychology.
Yet similarly, I've found most people who aren't fans of giant robot franchises don't understand the difference between giant sentient robots and piloted mechs. The distinction is surely common sense to everyone here, but apparently understanding something so simple makes you a total geek in the wider world...outside of Japan.
Perhaps what haunts me the most is knowing for a fact that of all the employees who came and went from the Westland Toys'R'Us, I'm not the one most likely to snap and make and attempt on Michael Bay's life, so maybe I never was the most obsessive TFan there.
Sorry this became an epic rant, but I really, really miss that job this time of year. And my theory surely seems strange enough that most Seibertronians wouldn't buy it without citing the aforementioned incidents. But yeah, even after the Beasts have risen and fallen, the majority of moviegoers are still going to consider the two Optimi, Prime and Primal, the same character, so they can't both have all the toys they deserve out at the same time.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 23rd, 2022 @ 2:03am CST
william-james88 wrote:There was also a severe lack of Optimus Prime in the SS movie line. Well now we see that there will be a voyager Optimus in the ROTB mainline. Plus, there will be a multipack in the Buzzworthy line.
I'm not the least bit surprised there are far fewer Optimus Prime toys here than for any previous live action film. It's a sound marketing decision on Hasbro's part, because the average casual fan simply doesn't understand that Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal are not the same character, and still won't get it even after seeing the two of them interact on the big screen.
I know I sound like an irredeemably snobbish "TRUE FAN" s#itting on others, since this is basic logic and common sense to every Seibertronian, but seriously, I learned this from my 14 years working at Toys'R'Us, even if I can't quite explain the psychology behind it. Please hear me out.
My first evidence of this came shortly before the first BayFormers came out, during a conversation with a coworker, a few years my junior, who seemed to be a big fan of the G1 toon, and whose older brother was a collector. When I mentioned Beast Wars, she immediately responded, "You can't make Optimus Prime no monkey!" So I naturally explained that Primal wasn't the same character, but before I could explain how they found the Ark in The Agenda, she just started laughing her ass off at me. "What's so funny? That's just the basic premise of Beast W--" She found this so funny that she couldn't stop laughing for at least half a minute. I certainly wasn't offended or anything, just confused. At least it happened before I bored her to death with my views on where Earth Force splintered off from the rest of Marvel continuity.
At the risk of getting off track, maybe "casual" isn't the right word here, because Transformers DID indeed mean a lot to her, as I learned the first time we spoke AFTER that first Bay film. Sweet Primus To put this in perspective, I forced myself to watch all of Beast Machines that I might judge fairly its worthiness as a sequel to the series that saved the TF franchise in its darkest hour, and it felt like 2 seasons of watching half my favorite BW characters get brutally raped until their minds broke. I'm sorry that's offensive, and if I ever find a better analogy that more accurately describes how I felt watching it, I'll edit this post. I will never soften on that, BUT, I also never got half as pissed at BM as my coworker was at that first live action film. She was so mad that she couldn't articulate more than one sentence, just seething, like Bay had murdered her childhood pet and the cops had just laughed at her like she laughed about Primal. GEEZ. Never talked to her about TF again...well, until Combiner Wars.
Sorry, I just needed to provide context.
While I never met anyone that pissed about Transformers again, at least that incident was technically understandable, more than I can say for what happened after Dark of the Moon came out, which was just plain weird. IDR if this was opening weekend or the Saturday after because I don't rush to see movies opening day, something I still regret not doing for DotM, since being the store's resident TF expert, I was charged with manning an event table near the entrance where I was demonstrating a few Cyberverse toys, mostly Megatron with full trailer. Two little boys, genuinely concerned about the events of the film, came up and asked me: "Why did Optimus Prime turn evil?!?" In the rare moment when the youngest, most impressionable fans desperately needed my authoritative knowledge on TF, I had no idea what to tell them, couldn't even hazard a guess, and felt unworthy of my post for the rest of the day.
(Again this was DotM, not TLK)
Hours later, a different coworker than the one 4 years prior who'd also seen DotM verified what the boys had said by mentioning, "Y'know, it's funny, I had a dream once when I was a kid where it was the reverse, and I was running away from Optimus and trying to get to Megatron." I certainly didn't want spoilers, so I didn't ask her to elaborate, but went into the theater a few days later, looking forward to having all this confusion cleared up.
But as everyone reading this knows by now, it never will be. And I will forever kick myself for dragging my feet to see Bay's third #!&*ing masterpiece, and not being able to ask them exactly what they meant.
Now, as Shockwave would doubtlessly have told me if he'd had more dialogue, logically, all three of these people must have thought that Sentinel Prime was...also Optimus Prime. That being two Primes who turned into largely red trucks meant they were both the same character, somehow.
I wonder what will happen if a DCCU movie has Superman fight Captain Marvel/SHAZAM: will filmgoers see them as both being Superman, despite all the character development the Big Red Cheese will have from two movies centered around him?
Maybe it's also the sheer number of toys Op has gotten over the years. Next to each other on store shelves, displayed in someone's collection, or on the floor as kids are playing with them, they are indeed different Optimus Primes coexisting, usually without the rationale of a Multiverse or clones that fiction should necessitate, so that gets one used to there simply being more than one Optimus Prime without any logical explanation. Hasbro's probably assuming most shoppers will see all the RotB Optimus Primal toys as just more toys of Optimus Prime, and be too overwhelmed and confused if there are very many toys that are actually RotB Optimus Prime. There'll be other Ops from other sublines next to them to boot, so they have no choice but to largely hold off on O.P. toys until after the movie's come and gone, ironic as it is.
Of course, I could be wrong, because it's still illogical in a way that I probably couldn't explain even if I had a masters in psychology.
Yet similarly, I've found most people who aren't fans of giant robot franchises don't understand the difference between giant sentient robots and piloted mechs. The distinction is surely common sense to everyone here, but apparently understanding something so simple makes you a total geek in the wider world...outside of Japan.
Perhaps what haunts me the most is knowing for a fact that of all the employees who came and went from the Westland Toys'R'Us, I'm not the one most likely to snap and make and attempt on Michael Bay's life, so maybe I never was the most obsessive TFan there.
Sorry this became an epic rant, but I really, really miss that job this time of year. And my theory surely seems strange enough that most Seibertronians wouldn't buy it without citing the aforementioned incidents. But yeah, even after the Beasts have risen and fallen, the majority of moviegoers are still going to consider the two Optimi, Prime and Primal, the same character, so they can't both have all the toys they deserve out at the same time.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152266)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 23rd, 2022 @ 4:55am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 23rd, 2022 @ 4:55am CST
Looking foward to see what will be the differences between the ROTB and SS toys of the same characters and class, and which are better. I already know that the Airaizor to get is the ROTB one, but what will it be for the rest?
It's wait and see.
It's wait and see.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152272)
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2022 @ 7:06am CST
That class part is the interesting bit since this news here tells us that some characters like Cheetor and Primal will be in a different class in the mainline. Optimus Primal will be a voyager, instead of a leader and since we can all assume that they will be the same size, the mainline option would become a "budget" version while maybe being as complex.
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2022 @ 7:06am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Looking foward to see what will be the differences between the ROTB and SS toys of the same characters and class, and which are better. I already know that the Airaizor to get is the ROTB one, but what will it be for the rest?
It's wait and see.
That class part is the interesting bit since this news here tells us that some characters like Cheetor and Primal will be in a different class in the mainline. Optimus Primal will be a voyager, instead of a leader and since we can all assume that they will be the same size, the mainline option would become a "budget" version while maybe being as complex.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152276)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 23rd, 2022 @ 8:17am CST
Or they will be the exact same things but with "extra stuff" for the "larger" class.
Wait n see. Wait n see...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 23rd, 2022 @ 8:17am CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Looking foward to see what will be the differences between the ROTB and SS toys of the same characters and class, and which are better. I already know that the Airaizor to get is the ROTB one, but what will it be for the rest?
It's wait and see.
That class part is the interesting bit since this news here tells us that some characters like Cheetor and Primal will be in a different class in the mainline. Optimus Primal will be a voyager, instead of a leader and since we can all assume that they will be the same size, the mainline option would become a "budget" version while maybe being as complex.
Or they will be the exact same things but with "extra stuff" for the "larger" class.
Wait n see. Wait n see...
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152508)
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2022 @ 9:10pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 26th, 2022 @ 9:10pm CST
The Rise of the Beasts toyline is being distributed now, with our first proof of that coming from Turkey where a collector shop got the first wave of 3 step Smash Changer figures. We had already gotten Smash and Change Optimus Prime through the Cyberverse line and it seems Hasbro chose to release the rest of the Smash and Change figures through the ROTB mainline rather than Cyberverse. The figure we can see in the image below is 3 step Smash Changer Optimus Primal, and the photo is from that shop in Turkey.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152509)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 26th, 2022 @ 9:33pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 26th, 2022 @ 9:33pm CST
I'm looking forward the video review of that Primal.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152556)
Posted by TulioDude on December 28th, 2022 @ 10:35am CST
Posted by TulioDude on December 28th, 2022 @ 10:35am CST
This makes me want to check my local store to see if anything arrived early.
Day 1093 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Day 1093 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152651)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 30th, 2022 @ 10:30am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 30th, 2022 @ 10:30am CST
I am glad there will be a mainline outside of SS. I'll look forward to some RotB guys together in SS on the main movie shelf, while the mainline toys might end up with the non-SS toys. Hoping they look good alongside the likes of Evasion mode Prime, TLK Crosshairs, etc.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152687)
Posted by Omegatron. on December 30th, 2022 @ 12:59pm CST
Posted by Omegatron. on December 30th, 2022 @ 12:59pm CST
PVP has a review of Airazor up if anyone's interested.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152930)
Posted by Autobot_Benz on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:42pm CST
Posted by Autobot_Benz on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:42pm CST
Looks like ROTB Mainline Cheetor got shown and its fantastic. Show on Instagram by vicegripx https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm-AWOOyC0_ ... MTA2M2Y%3D
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152931)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:47pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:47pm CST
So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152932)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:48pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 3rd, 2023 @ 5:48pm CST
Cheetor looks FAT here.
But still looks nice.
But still looks nice.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152933)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:07pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:07pm CST
Gut gun and whip? Best Cheetor ever and I don't like Beast Wars figures.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152934)
Posted by Overcracker on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:08pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:08pm CST
Robot head is kind of off, cheetah mode looks really good.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152937)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:17pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:17pm CST
Doesnt have pipes for shoulders nor spatula arms, looks a good improvement tbf. Though the scale with the cars... did they really just go with, well thats how big the toy is next to a toy car, might as well make him that size in the movie....but then again I forget baynus is adverse to shrink chips whilst having made up shrinking allspark 
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152939)
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:19pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:19pm CST
Wow, it borrows really heavily from the original.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152944)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:36pm CST
No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.
At least this one gets the gun and ax.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:36pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.
No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.
At least this one gets the gun and ax.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:42pm CST
Which makes me wonder if we are looking at ss voyager
Cheetor rather than the mainline deluxe
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:42pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.
No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.
At least this one gets the gun and ax.
Which makes me wonder if we are looking at ss voyager
Cheetor rather than the mainline deluxe
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Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:52pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:52pm CST
That might explain why it comes with the gun that Kingdom Tigatron had but Kingdom Cheetor didn't.william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So, just like Airazor's Studio Series figure, it heavily borrows from the engineering of the Kingdom figure.
No reason to reinvent the wheel when some of the work is done for you.
At least this one gets the gun and ax.
Which makes me wonder if we are looking at ss voyager
Cheetor rather than the mainline deluxe
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152950)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:59pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 3rd, 2023 @ 6:59pm CST
That is a beauty. The movie Maximals are looking exceptionally nice to me
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152962)
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 9:42pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 3rd, 2023 @ 9:42pm CST
Vicegripx on Instagram posted several images of a Rise of the Beasts Cheetor toy. This is the deluxe class toy that will come out in the mainline and now the Studio Series toy. Interesting to see that he has a gun stored in his gut, which will make fans happy. While not a retool of the Kingdom Cheetor toy, some fans find them to share design cues with one another. Let us know what you think and enjoy the new pics!
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Posted by Autobot_Benz on January 3rd, 2023 @ 11:30pm CST
The Gut Gun has storage as well. It still befuddles the mind they couldn't have come up with something to work with Kingdom Cheetor. I still think its fantastic
Posted by Autobot_Benz on January 3rd, 2023 @ 11:30pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Vicegripx on Instagram posted several images of a Rise of the Beasts Cheetor toy. We do not know if this is the Studio Series voyager of the mainline deluxe toy. Size and inacuracy to what we've seen in the trailer (along with bright colours) hints at the deluxe, but the extra gun accessory and reuse of a kingdom mold like what happened with Studio Series Airazor could place it in the Studio Series. Let us know what you think and enjoy the new pics!
The Gut Gun has storage as well. It still befuddles the mind they couldn't have come up with something to work with Kingdom Cheetor. I still think its fantastic
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Posted by ThunderThruster on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:25am CST
Posted by ThunderThruster on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:25am CST
It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152976)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:37am CST
I agree. One must be totally blind to see this as a Kingdom retool. There is absolutely ZERO reused parts anywhere, unlike SS Airaizor who is a clear and simple repaint of the Kingdom.
It still remain unclear if that Cheetor is the SS "voyager" though.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:37am CST
ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
I agree. One must be totally blind to see this as a Kingdom retool. There is absolutely ZERO reused parts anywhere, unlike SS Airaizor who is a clear and simple repaint of the Kingdom.
It still remain unclear if that Cheetor is the SS "voyager" though.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152984)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2023 @ 8:37am CST
It's the deluxe, we know that now. Looking at him in the trailer, he doesn't have the cheetah legs in his back so the SS will probably look more like his beast machines self than his original beast wars self, which this one emulates.
And good thing I didn't call it a retool since it isn't that. One thing about Airazor though, her SS toy shares no parts with the Kingdom figure either.
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2023 @ 8:37am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
I agree. One must be totally blind to see this as a Kingdom retool. There is absolutely ZERO reused parts anywhere, unlike SS Airaizor who is a clear and simple repaint of the Kingdom.
It still remain unclear if that Cheetor is the SS "voyager" though.
It's the deluxe, we know that now. Looking at him in the trailer, he doesn't have the cheetah legs in his back so the SS will probably look more like his beast machines self than his original beast wars self, which this one emulates.
And good thing I didn't call it a retool since it isn't that. One thing about Airazor though, her SS toy shares no parts with the Kingdom figure either.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152986)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 4th, 2023 @ 9:05am CST
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 4th, 2023 @ 9:05am CST
While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2152994)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2023 @ 10:46am CST
It's the exact same class as rotb deluxe airazor. But FYI, all these toys are made for kids, Studio Series too.
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2023 @ 10:46am CST
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.
It's the exact same class as rotb deluxe airazor. But FYI, all these toys are made for kids, Studio Series too.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153002)
Posted by Hero Alpha on January 4th, 2023 @ 1:15pm CST
Posted by Hero Alpha on January 4th, 2023 @ 1:15pm CST
This Cheetor is giving me Transmetal 2 Cheetor vibes, and I like it.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153004)
Posted by griftimus prime on January 4th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CST
Posted by griftimus prime on January 4th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CST
damn that wheeljack looks bad. killed all the cool vibes in this article i got from this cheetor.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153011)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 4th, 2023 @ 3:05pm CST
My point was that the studio series deluxe Airazor looks bad, but I really digged the look of the other one, so I hope it is not the same here.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 4th, 2023 @ 3:05pm CST
william-james88 wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:While this does not have the same appeal as the kids version of ROTB Airazor, I like this. Hope it is not just the kids toy like Airazor was, I still love her head sculpt.
It's the exact same class as ROTB deluxe Airazor. But FYI, all these toys are made for kids, Studio Series too.
My point was that the studio series deluxe Airazor looks bad, but I really digged the look of the other one, so I hope it is not the same here.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153017)
Posted by Ig89ninja on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:27pm CST
Posted by Ig89ninja on January 4th, 2023 @ 4:27pm CST
I am digging the Robot mode on this figure, the cheetah on the other hand…
Why is the cat wearing pants? On that note, I kinda wish that the toy had more of a single color pallet, like either go full on the yellow with some copper paint for robot mode or vice-versa.
Side note, I appreciate how the cheetah legs go forward, back, then forward again, looks much better than the kingdom’s that goes back, forward, then forward again.
Why is the cat wearing pants? On that note, I kinda wish that the toy had more of a single color pallet, like either go full on the yellow with some copper paint for robot mode or vice-versa.
Side note, I appreciate how the cheetah legs go forward, back, then forward again, looks much better than the kingdom’s that goes back, forward, then forward again.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153039)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2023 @ 8:10pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2023 @ 8:10pm CST
He just continues to look wonderful. I am ready for some movie Maximals!
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153058)
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2023 @ 12:56am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 5th, 2023 @ 12:56am CST
Here are all the mainline deluxes so far
Just missing Mirage and Bumblebee from the listings we have.
Just missing Mirage and Bumblebee from the listings we have.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153059)
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2023 @ 1:38am CST
It's what we like to call "shared engineering". Same transformation but no parts in common.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2023 @ 1:38am CST
ThunderThruster wrote:It might share some transformation cues with the kingdom mold, but there are only so many ways to have feline altmode transform into a botmode within a define transformation scheme.
Considering the differences in the beast legs on the bot shins (Kingdom's just sit on top of the shin, the RotB's actually tuck inside from the back) I'm inclined not to lump this as a Kingdom re-use/variant.
It's what we like to call "shared engineering". Same transformation but no parts in common.
Emerje
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2023 @ 6:29pm CST
I love all 4 of these
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2023 @ 6:29pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Here are all the mainline deluxes so far
Just missing Mirage and Bumblebee from the listings we have.
I love all 4 of these
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153119)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:28pm CST
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:28pm CST
Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153120)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:29pm CST
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 5th, 2023 @ 8:29pm CST
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153122)
Posted by First-Aid on January 5th, 2023 @ 10:02pm CST
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
Posted by First-Aid on January 5th, 2023 @ 10:02pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
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Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:01pm CST
Or get a new mattress.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:01pm CST
If you sound like Rice Krispies when getting out of bed, consult your doctor or other medical authority right away.First-Aid wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
Or get a new mattress.
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Posted by First-Aid on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:09pm CST
I AM a medical authority!
Posted by First-Aid on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:09pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:If you sound like Rice Krispies when getting out of bed, consult your doctor or other medical authority right away.First-Aid wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
Or get a new mattress.
I AM a medical authority!
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153127)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:18pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2023 @ 11:18pm CST
Perfect!First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If you sound like Rice Krispies when getting out of bed, consult your doctor or other medical authority right away.First-Aid wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
Or get a new mattress.
I AM a medical authority!
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153136)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 6th, 2023 @ 6:26am CST
I do miss not sounding like Rice Krispies getting out of bed.
But to be fair to the movie figures, the RotB toyline with these specific figures in it were supposed to be released last year, with the SS figures this year. There was supposed to be a year's difference, not side-by-side releases.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 6th, 2023 @ 6:26am CST
First-Aid wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Isnt that the wrong (but far superior) new Airazor?
No, the Airazor that shared engineering with Kingdom Airazor appears to be the SS one, whereas the Cheetor that shares engineering with the Kingdom cheetor appears to be RotB mainline
Does anyone else miss the good ol days where there was only one line and we didn't get confused?
Also, does anyone else remember getting out of bed to EAT Rice Krispies rather than getting out of bed SOUNDING like Rice Krispies?
I do miss not sounding like Rice Krispies getting out of bed.
But to be fair to the movie figures, the RotB toyline with these specific figures in it were supposed to be released last year, with the SS figures this year. There was supposed to be a year's difference, not side-by-side releases.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153137)
Posted by william-james88 on January 6th, 2023 @ 7:28am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 6th, 2023 @ 7:28am CST
Wheeljack is by far the most talked about design of the film. Not only because of how different it is to the G1 design but how different it is to the one we saw in the Bumblebee film, which shows more disregard to continuity (for those still clinging onto that within the live action Transformers films). Well we have more images of it below coming from both Reddit and kentan99 and we can see that the giant glasses can be removed. They are clear plastic though, so they did break in half in one instance, as we see in the images (may have been intentional, rather than accidental, we do not know yet). We also have a shot from PrimevsPrime showing what it may look like with the suspenders part properly transformed. As of now, no one has the instructions, so the accurate look/transformation is not 100% certain.
Let us know if this sways you into probably picking it up if you see him.
Let us know if this sways you into probably picking it up if you see him.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153140)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2023 @ 8:04am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2023 @ 8:04am CST
I LOVE every single aspects of that Wheeljack. And if people just can't accept him as "Wheeljack" just call him "Larry" or "Bob." No matter the name, it doesn't change the fact that the bot is a brilliant design with a very groovy vehicle mode.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153141)
Posted by truegrit on January 6th, 2023 @ 8:34am CST
Posted by truegrit on January 6th, 2023 @ 8:34am CST
I think it's a neat figure as well. The only two things that bother me are
1) The duck mouth. He doesn't need to have the G1 grill/mask. I get it; they want to use mouths to emote. But that particular design is off-putting to me.
2) I wish they had made the highlight color green instead of tan, as a reference to the G1 Wheeljack. A vintage army-ish green would look great on a camper van.
1) The duck mouth. He doesn't need to have the G1 grill/mask. I get it; they want to use mouths to emote. But that particular design is off-putting to me.
2) I wish they had made the highlight color green instead of tan, as a reference to the G1 Wheeljack. A vintage army-ish green would look great on a camper van.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153142)
Posted by cruizerdave on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:10am CST
Posted by cruizerdave on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:10am CST
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. Removable glasses on a robot. Gotta show people he’s the smart robot, we’ll make him a nerd, by giving him glasses. This is such 1980s frat boy thinking it’s ridiculous.
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Posted by First-Aid on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:28am CST
I don't see these as glasses now. The way they are designed, they are more like safety goggles and are similar to the kinds that scientists wear in the laboratory. That kind of adds to that "mad scientist" vibe. I'm curious to see the SS version compared to this one.
Posted by First-Aid on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:28am CST
cruizerdave wrote:This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. Removable glasses on a robot. Gotta show people he’s the smart robot, we’ll make him a nerd, by giving him glasses. This is such 1980s frat boy thinking it’s ridiculous.
I don't see these as glasses now. The way they are designed, they are more like safety goggles and are similar to the kinds that scientists wear in the laboratory. That kind of adds to that "mad scientist" vibe. I'm curious to see the SS version compared to this one.
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153145)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:35am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:35am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153147)
Posted by Emerje on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:55am CST
Posted by Emerje on January 6th, 2023 @ 9:55am CST
Removable glasses? Great now we can recreate all our favorite scenes from the movie, like this one:
We should probably wait until we see how he looks in the movie, I doubt the toy could do proper removable glasses without them being big and chunky on a non-SS figure. That's assuming they were meant to be removed in the first place.
Emerje
First-Aid wrote:cruizerdave wrote:This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. Removable glasses on a robot. Gotta show people he’s the smart robot, we’ll make him a nerd, by giving him glasses. This is such 1980s frat boy thinking it’s ridiculous.
I don't see these as glasses now. The way they are designed, they are more like safety goggles and are similar to the kinds that scientists wear in the laboratory. That kind of adds to that "mad scientist" vibe. I'm curious to see the SS version compared to this one.
We should probably wait until we see how he looks in the movie, I doubt the toy could do proper removable glasses without them being big and chunky on a non-SS figure. That's assuming they were meant to be removed in the first place.
Emerje
Re: More Rise of the Beasts Toyline Listings including Voyagers Optimus Prime and Primal in the Mainline (2153155)
Posted by GrangerPerry on January 6th, 2023 @ 10:36am CST
Posted by GrangerPerry on January 6th, 2023 @ 10:36am CST
Hey this is a bit of false advertising, This guy has a giant square peg hole in his forehead, the photo showing him with no hole is photoshopped by half screen mirroring the image making it look like he has a full face under the glasses
