Never Revealed Bumblebee Movie Power Series Ratchet Found in US

Why is his arm green?

Maybe a war wound or he ran out of white paint to cover his movie green?

william-james88 wrote:t's not common to stumble upon brand new toys ate retail we had no clue were coming.

I think you meant to write "at retail"?

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:t's not common to stumble upon brand new toys ate retail we had no clue were coming.

I think you meant to write "at retail"?

Pft, you saying you don't eat the retail toys all the time?

Guess you ain't a true fan then.

Deadput wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:t's not common to stumble upon brand new toys ate retail we had no clue were coming.

I think you meant to write "at retail"?

Pft, you saying you don't eat the retail toys all the time?

Guess you ain't a true fan then.

Technically, that sentence would imply that the TOYS ate the retail market or while concept of what retail is...

primalxconvoy wrote:
Technically, that sentence would imply that the TOYS ate the retail market.

I’m going with this interpretation, that would explain why SS Devastator components are being sold across multiple waves.

I like the G1 influence with the Movie Ratchet Design

whats the friggin deal!?

every piece o scrap movie in the Bayverse
cranks out figures for every slagin bot
that spends 15 seconds on screen.

even Wheelie has 3 figs!
each RC twin has a kajillion iterations and repaints
for the 9 seconds of screentime they got!
We even have bot toys for vehicles in the films
that DONT HAVE BOT MODES!!

What do we get for BUMBLEBEE?
A plethora of kiddie carp!
& 2 halfway decent figs!
Studio Series
Bumblebee & Dropkick.
(a 3rd if u count MPM-7.)

WTFraggleRock!?

OH!
i forgot SS Shatter.
oops...
okay, 3 SEMI-decent toys!!


am i wrong!?
PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME IM WRONG!!!

is something coming that will rock my kazbah?

where are Arcee, Wheeljack, Brawn, Cliff!?
Where is Prime!?
Optimus is guaranteed $$!

ANYONE!?

Z3ROhour wrote:A condensed down version of the post for space

You do know that the Cybertron scene was made much later in production and that the toylines are all made and developed longer before the Cybertron stuff was finished right?

The same reason why figures of characters are based off concept art rather then the final designs in the films?

(Also oh my god grammar, which I know is kind of ironic coming from me)

Weird enough this toy is basically what I imagined one of Ratchet's assistants to look like in my Bumblebee movie "What if" that I posted in another thread and this guy would of died.

(He would of been Ratchet's Bee movie design with this coloration and the helmet would of been inspired by Movie Ratchet but the face was the same as Ratchets)

Z3ROhour wrote:whats the friggin deal!?

every piece o scrap movie in the Bayverse
cranks out figures for every slagin bot
that spends 15 seconds on screen.

even Wheelie has 3 figs!
each RC twin has a kajillion iterations and repaints
for the 9 seconds of screentime they got!
We even have bot toys for vehicles in the films
that DONT HAVE BOT MODES!!

What do we get for BUMBLEBEE?
A plethora of kiddie carp!
& 2 halfway decent figs!
Studio Series
Bumblebee & Dropkick.
(a 3rd if u count MPM-7.)

WTFraggleRock!?

OH!
i forgot SS Shatter.
oops...
okay, 3 SEMI-decent toys!!


am i wrong!?
PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME IM WRONG!!!

is something coming that will rock my kazbah?

where are Arcee, Wheeljack, Brawn, Cliff!?
Where is Prime!?
Optimus is guaranteed $$!

ANYONE!?

SS Prime is coming. We just saw that reveal a week or 2 back. Frankly, it looks good, and if we werent getting Siege Prime at the same time I would be all over the Bee Prime, but they pretty much check all the same boxes with different styles, so I am less apt to get it.

I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Exactly. I've yet to see a single truly bad toy from this line. All the toys also seem pretty solid and of high quality. Not like Cyberverse, which is 3/4 pure garbage.

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Yeah, more shilling for ‘bee as always.

Combat Zero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Yeah, more shilling for ‘bee as always.

"Shilling"

Did you get lost on your way to 4chan's /toy/?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Combat Zero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Yeah, more shilling for ‘bee as always.

"Shilling"

Did you get lost on your way to 4chan's /toy/?

It’s a joke based on Bumblebee being a poster boy for marketing like for the past years or so, lighten up.

Combat Zero wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Combat Zero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Yeah, more shilling for ‘bee as always.

"Shilling"

Did you get lost on your way to 4chan's /toy/?

It’s a joke based on Bumblebee being a poster boy for marketing like for the past years or so, lighten up.

Well, Bee is the marketing mascot since 10 years and it work so...
Anyway, the "shilling" fallacy is a /toy/ thing. You're not allowed to love anything without being accused over there.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Combat Zero wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Combat Zero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally think the bee toyline is doing a good job, especially as more kid friendly toys (you know the market they want to grab with the movie) are all here with more collector focused entries in the Studio Series line, we may get more bee characters as time goes on in the ss line.

Yeah, more shilling for ‘bee as always.

"Shilling"

Did you get lost on your way to 4chan's /toy/?

It’s a joke based on Bumblebee being a poster boy for marketing like for the past years or so, lighten up.

Well, Bee is the marketing mascot since 10 years and it work so...
Anyway, the "shilling" fallacy is a /toy/ thing. You're not allowed to love anything without being accused over there.

I learned the word from TV Tropes.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyway, the "shilling" fallacy is a /toy/ thing. You're not allowed to love anything without being accused over there.

That's kind of a general all around "fandom" thing really.

I'd be a corporate shill any day

Whoever found this toy probably found it at the Walmart I work at. I saw it the other day, as I visit the TF section daily. The pickings have been seriously slim though, but I saw this Ratchet there. It was a pass though, because I hate Bayverse designs. I wish the Bee movie toys weren't just cheap earlier movie rehashes.

Combat Zero wrote:I learned the word from TV Tropes.

So you never went to 4chan? If you ever do, be careful. It's a dangerous jungle there.
Especially for a noob.

and this is how HASBRO loose collectors and fans, that repaint is no where to be found in their shop online neither in my local stores in USA...

do you want to keep customers interested? then make toys available, first on your website, then on retail... few other toys I had to buy them online way overpriced on ebay, they never made it to my local stores neither to their shop online site

***legion class***
got lately on ebay 4x price: hound and dragonstorm
still looking for: cyclonus, sideways sneak attack set (last one on ebay was $500+)

BERSEKAEL wrote:do you want to keep customers interested? then make toys available, first on your website, then on retail... few other toys I had to buy them online way overpriced on ebay, they never made it to my local stores neither to their shop online site

Distribution woes is an entirely different ball game. Retailers themselves also have a big chunk of responsibility here.

I got Soundwave today as a belated Christmas present. He's quite lovely, although he's going to be placed with my CHUG toys rather than the movie ones because, well, that's where he fits in better. Now I need to get the DJ Bumblebee set.

BERSEKAEL wrote:and this is how HASBRO loose collectors and fans, that repaint is no where to be found in their shop online neither in my local stores in USA...

do you want to keep customers interested? then make toys available, first on your website, then on retail... few other toys I had to buy them online way overpriced on ebay, they never made it to my local stores neither to their shop online site

***legion class***
got lately on ebay 4x price: hound and dragonstorm
still looking for: cyclonus, sideways sneak attack set (last one on ebay was $500+)

You also have to remember that has Pros not trying to use their online shop as a distribution Point. Rather it's a close out outlets. The product they post to hasbrotoyshop, is product they have left over from their order run. The fact that we see it on hasbrotoyshop before it ever even makes it into the stores, is more indicative of how slow the retail distribution site is at Walmart, or Target, Etc, and not indicative of anything Hasbro is doing. I guarantee you, that they are not trying to undersell their primary consumers, remember we're buying from Walmart not from Hasbro Walmart is buying from Hasbro. It doesn't do Hasbro any good to sell the stuff to us because then Walmart doesn't sell it and Walmart doesn't buy it from them. That's also why hasbrotoyshop seems to sell out so fast, because they're not putting up nearly the quantity of product that an online retailer like Amazon is.

In short form, what's happening is say Hasbro makes around of 30,000 of a certain item the combined retailer Giants purchase 28500 that item. Hasbro's left with an extra 1500 of that unit item. That's some of that 1500 will be set aside for warranty replacement, and the rest of that is what goes on line. Eventually, the warranty replacement product that was not used, will also end up going online accounting for small restocks

Exactly. Hasbro Toy Shop is not and CANNOT be a primary outlet.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I got Soundwave today as a belated Christmas present. He's quite lovely, although he's going to be placed with my CHUG toys rather than the movie ones because, well, that's where he fits in better. Now I need to get the DJ Bumblebee set.

Update: Meant the Cassette Pack set. Which I just got home with. The Tablessettes will be joining Soundwave, and Bee is probably going to be kitbashed and repainted into a Decepticon grunt.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Exactly. Hasbro Toy Shop is not and CANNOT be a primary outlet.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I got Soundwave today as a belated Christmas present. He's quite lovely, although he's going to be placed with my CHUG toys rather than the movie ones because, well, that's where he fits in better. Now I need to get the DJ Bumblebee set.

Update: Meant the Cassette Pack set. Which I just got home with. The Tablessettes will be joining Soundwave, and Bee is probably going to be kitbashed and repainted into a Decepticon grunt.

Yeah, i figured you meant that. Congrats on your hauls. You guys are luckier than you think, the US is one of the only countries in the world to get these BB exlusives.

Well, out of the lot Frenzy (who will be Rumble in my collection because I'm a cartoon fan. And who will get some red paint on his optics - they tried to pass him off as movie Frenzy by giving him blue optics) is probably the only thing to be really jealous of. Maaaybe Howlback too, but he's not as big a name.

What places are the BB exclusives unavailable?

Flashwave wrote:You also have to remember that has Pros not trying to use their online shop as a distribution Point. Rather it's a close out outlets. The product they post to hasbrotoyshop, is product they have left over from their order run. The fact that we see it on hasbrotoyshop before it ever even makes it into the stores, is more indicative of how slow the retail distribution site is at Walmart, or Target, Etc, and not indicative of anything Hasbro is doing. I guarantee you, that they are not trying to undersell their primary consumers, remember we're buying from Walmart not from Hasbro Walmart is buying from Hasbro. It doesn't do Hasbro any good to sell the stuff to us because then Walmart doesn't sell it and Walmart doesn't buy it from them. That's also why hasbrotoyshop seems to sell out so fast, because they're not putting up nearly the quantity of product that an online retailer like Amazon is.

People still believe this? If this were true then they would have been swimming in Titans Return wave 5 since most physical retailers (and just barely the online ones) didn't get that wave, would have had a ton of TLK Cogs since he wasn't available in the US until he showed up at liquidation, among several other lines that were hard to find or had short release windows. Plus they were intentionally the first place to release Studio Series wave 1. They also only sell at MSRP (aside from Siege Deluxe, not sure what's happening there) and take forever to put things on clearance. I'll never understand why people continue to believe HTS is only a place to sell leftovers when there's so much proof that they don't.

Emerje

The UK got those Bee exclusives via Argos

Rainmaker wrote:What places are the BB exclusives unavailable?

Canada, for one.

Emerje wrote:

Flashwave wrote:You also have to remember that has Pros not trying to use their online shop as a distribution Point. Rather it's a close out outlets. The product they post to hasbrotoyshop, is product they have left over from their order run. The fact that we see it on hasbrotoyshop before it ever even makes it into the stores, is more indicative of how slow the retail distribution site is at Walmart, or Target, Etc, and not indicative of anything Hasbro is doing. I guarantee you, that they are not trying to undersell their primary consumers, remember we're buying from Walmart not from Hasbro Walmart is buying from Hasbro. It doesn't do Hasbro any good to sell the stuff to us because then Walmart doesn't sell it and Walmart doesn't buy it from them. That's also why hasbrotoyshop seems to sell out so fast, because they're not putting up nearly the quantity of product that an online retailer like Amazon is.

People still believe this? If this were true then they would have been swimming in Titans Return wave 5 since most physical retailers (and just barely the online ones) didn't get that wave, would have had a ton of TLK Cogs since he wasn't available in the US until he showed up at liquidation, among several other lines that were hard to find or had short release windows. Plus they were intentionally the first place to release Studio Series wave 1. They also only sell at MSRP (aside from Siege Deluxe, not sure what's happening there) and take forever to put things on clearance. I'll never understand why people continue to believe HTS is only a place to sell leftovers when there's so much proof that they don't.

Emerje

So the Studio Series was a first release exclusive. So was Grotusque. That doesnt mean anything.

I dont know what happened to Wave 5 and Cogman, but clearly those figures got sold from Hasbro to the Big Boxes, because some people got W5, it made it to the Onlune retailers, and Cogman went to Ollies via TRU. I am of the opinoon that Hasbro either underproduced W5 or else there is a Walmart Warehouse somewhere that in 100 years is gonna be a goldmine.

HTS ia selling at MSRP because again, they do not exist to undercut their primary Customers: Walmart etc. And it gives them a helaciously noce profit because unlike Walmart, they are not paying for the logistics to go from Hasbro HQ to Distribution to Store. Look around un other hobbies and you'll find manufacturers doing the same thing. In model trains, Rapido, Walthers, all sell direct and through Hobby Shops and the direct is at MSRP.

Thanks to Hasbro on their official site, which can be accessed by clicking any of the images below, we have news of 2 new members of the Energon Igniters class of figures, along with new images of 3 more!

Up first, we have the 2 new reveals: Power Plus Soundwave and Ironhide! Soundwave looks a lot like he did in the movie, with a G1-esque robot mode, and a new van mode that is very Animated-esque, complete with a totally metal image of a jaguar and bird of prey on the side, evoking Laserbeak and Ravage. Ironhide is an 80's-esque version of his movie self in his red and yellow G1 colors, complete with movie head.

We also get better images of the surprisingly announced Ratchet, who has an 80's ambulance mode mostly in white but with some movie-verse green and his movie head in there. Also shown are new images of Blitzwing and Dropkick, both of whom are looking really good.

For the above news, we thank @Jackthetinker and @KamenSpider for passing along the news to us and for the sources.

On a quick note to finish things up, we also have some new Amazon descriptions for the upcoming Mission Vision figures, which include a Bumblebee and Shatter in their 1977 Camaro and jet modes, respectively. The descriptions, given prior to the reveal images, give us an idea what to expect from the figures.

Let us know what you think of all these reveals below!

Transformers: Mission Vision Camaro Bumblebee

SEE THE MISSION AS BUMBLEBEE: See the mission through the optics of Bumblebee. Look and click between three unique views: Bee Vision, Scout Vision, and Autobot Vision. Imagine choosing the best view for action-packed missions!
CONVERTING ACTION: Convert 8-inch Mission Vision Bumblebee figure in 4 easy steps from robot to Chevrolet Camaro car mode — simple conversion fun for kids ages 6 and up. Mission Vision works in both modes!
CHOOSE A SIDE: Also look for Transformers: Bumblebee mission Vision Shatter action figure to see the mission through the eyes of the Deception bounty hunter (Sold separately. Subject to availability)
MOVE-INSPIRED: Classic yellow robot with black decals inspired by the world of Transformers: Bumblebee

Transformers Mission Vision Jet Mode Shatter

SEE THE MISSION AS SHATTER: See the mission through the optics of Shatter. Look and click between three unique views: Jet Vision, Tracker Vision, and Decepticon Vision. Imagine choosing the best view for action-packed missions!
CONVERTING ACTION: Convert 8-inch Mission Vision Shatter figure in 6 easy steps from robot to jet mode — simple conversion fun for kids ages 6 and up. Mission Vision works in both modes!
CHOOSE A SIDE: Also look for Transformers: Bumblebee Mission Vision Bumblebee figure to see the mission through the eyes of the Autobot scout (Sold separately. Subject to availability)
MOVE-INSPIRED: Red robot with black decals inspired by the world of Transformers: Bumblebee

That airbrush mural on Vanwave is just AWE-MAZING!!!!

Dropkick and Blitzwing actually look really great! I might get them if I see them, especially Blitzwing

OMG Soundwave's motor is sculpted like a boombox

Cobotron wrote::lol: That airbrush mural on Vanwave is just AWE-MAZING!!!!

And this will be an INSTANT BUY from me.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Cobotron wrote::lol: That airbrush mural on Vanwave is just AWE-MAZING!!!!

And this will be an INSTANT BUY from me.

Lol, is that supposed to be a jaguar and a condor? Why have we not seen something like this before? Anyway, these guys look great, will probably pickup Soundwave, Blitzwing, and Dropkick if I see 'em.

Btw, you guys noticed how Blitzwing's jet mode kibble is extremely reminiscent of his G1 toy's? Looks pretty similar, don't ya think?

Am I the only one who would like a voyager class toy of that 80's pickup truck Ironhide?

Much better altmode than the Vanette in my view.

Also yes, the airbrushed Jaguar and Eagle on Soundwave is Awesome.

Interestingly enough I think Dropkick looks better here then the SS figure. Go figure.

Can anybody tell me why Blitzwing looks like Starscream? And why he looks nothing like his Megatronian tank self from the legends class?

Note, I have not seen the BB movie, so dont know if this version is accurate to the movie.

Overcracker wrote:Am I the only one who would like a voyager class toy of that 80's pickup truck Ironhide?

Much better altmode than the Vanette in my view.

Also yes, the airbrushed Jaguar and Eagle on Soundwave is Awesome.

Interestingly enough I think Dropkick looks better here then the SS figure. Go figure.

Can anybody tell me why Blitzwing looks like Starscream? And why he looks nothing like his Megatronian tank self from the legends class?

Note, I have not seen the BB movie, so dont know if this version is accurate to the movie.

I would not mind an 80's pickup Ironhide like this, it is a cool concept!

Truck >>> van

Jaguar Eagle is a thing Soundwave now needs to use more

Dropkick does look far better than his SS self. He also looks to make a good Rotorstorm!

Blitzwing is a seeker in the movie, and they all have that body type. He's not a triple changer in the movie, so the tank toy is kinda just for fun. As for why they went with Blitzwing for the Starscream looking guy, the world may never know

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Dropkick does look far better than his SS self. He also looks to make a good Rotorstorm!

Blitzwing is a seeker in the movie, and they all have that body type. He's not a triple changer in the movie, so the tank toy is kinda just for fun. As for why they went with Blitzwing for the Starscream looking guy, the world may never know

Thanks. Looks interesting. Wonder if we'll get an SS version of that jet mode.

Would go well in Purple with SS Starscream and SS Thundercracker. To complete the traditional Seekers in Movie form, each with their own unique altmode.

Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Cobotron wrote:Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Do you realize how perfect that sounds ? I'm down for that

Cobotron wrote:Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Raise your hand if you want to see that repainted into a version of Soundwave as the Mystery Machine

*Raises both hands and starts jumping*

Speaking of Soundwave, here's where I'm keeping my Leader-class one. And I was able to put the tablessettes from the Cassette Pack in his box with room to spare

Whoa, I’m really digging that Ironhide! I really like the design, very movieverse but with a little G1 flair to it. Never too much movie Ironhide!

I haven’t picked up any of the Energon igniters outside of the speed series, but I’m wondering if I should get the power series Camaro Bee (without the core). We don’t get nearly enough Bumblebees with his battle mask and shoulder launchers!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Raise your hand if you want to see that repainted into a version of Soundwave as the Mystery Machine

*Raises both hands and starts jumping*

Raises all five limbs. On a serious note, we need to make sure that we keep in mind there's a strong possibility that we might not see all these figures released. Bumblebee has not gone higher than 3rd place for the last two weekends and will probably start dropping off.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Raise your hand if you want to see that repainted into a version of Soundwave as the Mystery Machine

*Raises both hands and starts jumping*

Raises all five limbs. On a serious note, we need to make sure that we keep in mind there's a strong possibility that we might not see all these figures released. Bumblebee has not gone higher than 3rd place for the last two weekends and will probably start dropping off.

When has a movie's performance at the box office ever been related to toy releases?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Raise your hand if you not only want that Soundwave with the sweet mural, but also want a repaint into Soundblaster, with an A-Team van alt mode.

*hand frantically raised*

Raise your hand if you want to see that repainted into a version of Soundwave as the Mystery Machine

*Raises both hands and starts jumping*

Raises all five limbs. On a serious note, we need to make sure that we keep in mind there's a strong possibility that we might not see all these figures released. Bumblebee has not gone higher than 3rd place for the last two weekends and will probably start dropping off.

When has a movie's performance at the box office ever been related to toy releases?

The last knight? The movie under performed and people lost interest quickly so stores didn't stock the latter waves.