New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK

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The Studio Series reissues in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line have been selling surprisingly well, even though it's reissues of toys that are not great. So you can imagine just how well these new ones will sell. Not only is it another way to get the stellar Cliffjumper and Kup molds but these have new decos that are more toon accurate. And this was even has the unmasked B-127 toy which fans were hoping we'd get, simply because Bumblebee never wore his mask on any of the Cybertron scenes.
These three figures are now being found at US Targets. The first sighting was Ben Yee himself in New jersey.
These same figures were also recently found in the UK at Forbidden Planet Southampton. And speaking of UK sightings, it looks like they are getting caught up on all of Studio Series with both the core class assortment (Shockwave and ravage) at Forbidden Planet and voyager class Soundwave at Smyths. Those UK sighints come from TFW200 board member Prescient.

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Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127864)
Posted by First-Aid on February 21st, 2022 @ 1:01pm CST

Where the heck it THAT at? That's got SS Ratchet in there too! That more Transformers figures in that picture than I've seen COMBINED over the last 6 months!

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127869)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2022 @ 2:02pm CST

First-Aid wrote:Where the heck it THAT at?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127871)
Posted by GrangerPerry on February 21st, 2022 @ 2:24pm CST

Lol I was thinking the same thing I read Target and thought that selection is wild! UK makes sense though

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127875)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2022 @ 3:08pm CST

Unless I really want an exclusive from the BWBB line, everything is going to be a hard pass. The way Toys r Us increase the prices of transformers exponentially, I will no longer shop there.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127882)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 21st, 2022 @ 6:41pm CST

Weren't those TMNT Movie II figures JUST announced?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127885)
Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2022 @ 7:09pm CST

So, will this get people to finally stop denying that Cliffjumper will have painted windows or will they still insist the Target release will have clear windows? >:oP

Emerje

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127888)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2022 @ 7:35pm CST

Emerje wrote:So, will this get people to finally stop denying that Cliffjumper will have painted windows or will they still insist the Target release will have clear windows?

Emerje

What about clear windows painted over? :lol:

All silliness aside, I'm biased towards clear windows, but the BB one seems less fragile... :-?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127891)
Posted by BW Megatron on February 21st, 2022 @ 8:36pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Weren't those TMNT Movie II figures JUST announced?

That Super Shredder has been out for a good while. I've seen it at a bunch of Walmarts.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2127899)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 21st, 2022 @ 10:51pm CST

I checked three Targets on the way home today. No new Buzzworthy stuff, just more restocks of "Origins" Bumblebee. I got marginally excited when one of them had an endcap for Transformers, but it was just overstock of the same stuff that's been out for months now.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128194)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 25th, 2022 @ 7:17pm CST

I hope the listings go up on Targets site soon. I want to get B-127

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128223)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 26th, 2022 @ 8:27am CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I hope the listings go up on Targets site soon. I want to get B-127

Don't count on it. I don't think they listed the previous individual SS releases or the 2-packs online, they were in store only. It seems they only list their exclusives that come in solid cases online anymore (T-Wrecks, Road Rage, Worlds Collide, etc.)

I haven't seen a figure from a mixed case of any size listed on their site since Kingdon Galvatron for WFC or Bee movie Thrust for SS.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128251)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 26th, 2022 @ 3:34pm CST

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I hope the listings go up on Targets site soon. I want to get B-127

Don't count on it. I don't think they listed the previous individual SS releases or the 2-packs online, they were in store only. It seems they only list their exclusives that come in solid cases online anymore (T-Wrecks, Road Rage, Worlds Collide, etc.)

I haven't seen a figure from a mixed case of any size listed on their site since Kingdon Galvatron for WFC or Bee movie Thrust for SS.

They did though? I have seen every single Buzzworthy release on Target.com at one point or another. That's where I ordered 3 of the deluxes I got from the line so far

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128319)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 27th, 2022 @ 5:54pm CST

The listings are up now but not in-stock

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128322)
Posted by sol magnus on February 27th, 2022 @ 6:04pm CST

Just picked up Kup and Cliff at Target. They had B-127 as well.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128347)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 28th, 2022 @ 8:33am CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The listings are up now but not in-stock

Do you have links? I can’t find them with a search of Target.com.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128348)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 28th, 2022 @ 8:44am CST

Kup:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762422%3C%2Fa%3E

Cliffjumper:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762402%3C%2Fa%3E

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128352)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 28th, 2022 @ 10:30am CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:Kup:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762422%3C%2Fa%3E

Cliffjumper:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762402%3C%2Fa%3E

Thanks! I’ll keep an eye on these.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128353)
Posted by sol magnus on February 28th, 2022 @ 10:31am CST

Emerje wrote:So, will this get people to finally stop denying that Cliffjumper will have painted windows or will they still insist the Target release will have clear windows?

Emerje

The windows are painted. I'll post pictures when I get a minute.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128374)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 28th, 2022 @ 5:08pm CST

I finally found BB Kup! He really does look worlds better with the corrected colors and additional detailing and paint applications. B-127 was there too, but no Cliffjumper. I can wait to pick up B-127 later, but I really wish I had found Cliffjumper too.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128383)
Posted by triKlops on February 28th, 2022 @ 6:45pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:Kup:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762422%3C%2Fa%3E

Cliffjumper:
https://goto.target.com/c/1137247/81938/2092?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Fp%2Ftransformers-b%20...%20A-83762402%3C%2Fa%3E

Thank you; much appreciated.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128388)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 28th, 2022 @ 9:00pm CST

Score!

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128389)
Posted by william-james88 on February 28th, 2022 @ 9:17pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:Score!

Awesome!

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128403)
Posted by sol magnus on March 1st, 2022 @ 8:25am CST

Last three days of the month in the car business sucks. Anyway, here's the pic -

IMG_8454.jpg

I haven't opened them yet because I'm trying to decide if I want to do this YouTube video. Anyway, for now you can see the difference. Kup is really a faded version of the Studio Series 86 version, and Cliffjumper is using cartoon colors, even if they aren't exactly right. I think the grays should be a darker gray, but I'm dead wrong. LOL

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128408)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 1st, 2022 @ 10:47am CST

I'm sitting out this wave of BB deluxes. I have all 3 already and the deco differences on Kup and Cliff, and the unmasked face for B-127 don't do enough for me to want to track them down and sell off my originals. In fact, I think I actually prefer all original decos on B-127 and Cliff even if they aren't as accurate as these are. Kup I'm flat out indifferent on, so the one I have wins out of one I'll have to find. Plus Amazon shipping out the SS/SS86 deluxes this week means I don't have to go hunting for anything.

Now, if Target puts them on sale next week that may be another story...

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128411)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 1st, 2022 @ 12:16pm CST

BB Kup and Cliffjumper up on Pulse

Edit: B127 too, all showing pre-order date of 10/1/22, which I assume is not accurate

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128413)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 1st, 2022 @ 12:33pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:BB Kup and Cliffjumper up on Pulse

Edit: B127 too, all showing pre-order date of 10/1/22, which I assume is not accurate

I just noticed that and was going to comment on the same thing. The date is definitely weird.

In even more weirdness, they also have Kingdom core Soundwave up for pre-order again due also in October, which should be well after his Legacy repack hits shelves. :???:

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128417)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 1st, 2022 @ 12:59pm CST

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:BB Kup and Cliffjumper up on Pulse

Edit: B127 too, all showing pre-order date of 10/1/22, which I assume is not accurate

I just noticed that and was going to comment on the same thing. The date is definitely weird.

In even more weirdness, they also have Kingdom core Soundwave up for pre-order again due also in October, which should be well after his Legacy repack hits shelves.

It's the same date as the new Bumblebee movie Studio Series figures, so they might have loaded them with the same placeholder. The new SS86 preorders are dated 8/1/22, however.

Cliffjumper just sold out.

Kingdom Core Soundwave is now showing as in-stock, not as a pre-order.

Edit: Kup is now showing in stock, so I assume he and Cliffjumper will be shipping immediately, in line with Target availability.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128418)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 1st, 2022 @ 1:23pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:BB Kup and Cliffjumper up on Pulse

Edit: B127 too, all showing pre-order date of 10/1/22, which I assume is not accurate

I just noticed that and was going to comment on the same thing. The date is definitely weird.

In even more weirdness, they also have Kingdom core Soundwave up for pre-order again due also in October, which should be well after his Legacy repack hits shelves.

It's the same date as the new Bumblebee movie Studio Series figures, so they might have loaded them with the same placeholder. The new SS86 preorders are dated 8/1/22, however.

Cliffjumper just sold out.

Kingdom Core Soundwave is now showing as in-stock, not as a pre-order.

Edit: Kup is now showing in stock, so I assume he and Cliffjumper will be shipping immediately, in line with Target availability.

So in other words, Pulse just being Pulse. Man, I could use one of their mistake prices again, I miss those.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128444)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 1st, 2022 @ 6:29pm CST

sol magnus wrote:Last three days of the month in the car business sucks. Anyway, here's the pic -

IMG_8454.jpg

I haven't opened them yet because I'm trying to decide if I want to do this YouTube video. Anyway, for now you can see the difference. Kup is really a faded version of the Studio Series 86 version, and Cliffjumper is using cartoon colors, even if they aren't exactly right. I think the grays should be a darker gray, but I'm dead wrong. LOL

Why are the last 3 days bad?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128459)
Posted by sol magnus on March 1st, 2022 @ 9:52pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Last three days of the month in the car business sucks. Anyway, here's the pic -

IMG_8454.jpg

I haven't opened them yet because I'm trying to decide if I want to do this YouTube video. Anyway, for now you can see the difference. Kup is really a faded version of the Studio Series 86 version, and Cliffjumper is using cartoon colors, even if they aren't exactly right. I think the grays should be a darker gray, but I'm dead wrong. LOL

Why are the last 3 days bad?

You have to work 12 hours days.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128472)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 2nd, 2022 @ 7:25am CST

Cliffjumper just shipped from Pulse. I expect Kup and core class Hot Rod will follow.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128475)
Posted by o.supreme on March 2nd, 2022 @ 12:52pm CST

I am just curious why the 2 Buzzworthy items sold out so quickly on Pulse? (Kup and Cliffjumper) I mean it could partly be, because Pulse just had a small supply (knowing that Target was the main retailer for these). But even as desirable repaints, its not exactly as if Buzzworthy stuff is hard to find. I've not had any trouble seeing any of them. Even the highly praised origins BB is still in my area. I even saw the super rare "worlds collide" 4-pack multiple times, once I could have even got it 25% off, but passed.

I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128476)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on March 2nd, 2022 @ 1:17pm CST

After the buzz (okay, sorry) about Cliffjumper and Kup being found in-store, my gut told me I should make a pit stop at Target on my way home from work...

If you were hoping to snag these from Pulse, don't fret too much-- I feel like if I found these guys, I'm sure almost anyone can.
Of course, without knowing how limited the production was for any of these figures, now is the time to start looking.
My store also had a B-127, but only one of each of these three (at least when I was there)... I'm assuming a case is two of each???

*edit:
I'm assuming these sold out because a lot of people (including me) have had an issue finding figures in-store.
And Target's website is one of the worst... So those really wanting these were less likely to take a chance of missing out by waiting.

I do feel a bit lucky though... Leaving Target having spent $47+ felt way better than the $61+ I was going to end up paying to Pulse.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128478)
Posted by sol magnus on March 2nd, 2022 @ 1:25pm CST

o.supreme wrote:I am just curious why the 2 Buzzworthy items sold out so quickly on Pulse? (Kup and Cliffjumper) I mean it could partly be, because Pulse just had a small supply (knowing that Target was the main retailer for these). But even as desirable repaints, its not exactly as if Buzzworthy stuff is hard to find. I've not had any trouble seeing any of them. Even the highly praised origins BB is still in my area. I even saw the super rare "worlds collide" 4-pack multiple times, once I could have even got it 25% off, but passed.

I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?

People want them. 'Better' paint jobs, plastic colors. Not sure why you're shocked. Cliffjumper even has his own SS 86 collector's number.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128481)
Posted by o.supreme on March 2nd, 2022 @ 1:34pm CST

sol magnus wrote:People want them... Not sure why you're shocked.

Ahh yes, crazy me for thinking that brand new items like SS86 Sludge, and Junkheap, would sell better than 2 slight repaints, on a subline, that will likely shelf warm like all the others in the Buzzworthy line. Of course I am constantly reminded that I live in some sort of retail "bubble" that is the opposite of reality. (where whether something is desirable or not, I can only ever find the things I have no interest in)

*I do see now that Sludge pre-orders have sold out on Pulse, but that wasn't the case as of yesterday.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128483)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on March 2nd, 2022 @ 1:44pm CST

o.supreme wrote:I am just curious why the 2 Buzzworthy items sold out so quickly on Pulse? (Kup and Cliffjumper) I mean it could partly be, because Pulse just had a small supply (knowing that Target was the main retailer for these). But even as desirable repaints, its not exactly as if Buzzworthy stuff is hard to find. I've not had any trouble seeing any of them. Even the highly praised origins BB is still in my area. I even saw the super rare "worlds collide" 4-pack multiple times, once I could have even got it 25% off, but passed.

I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?

To be fair, the BB stuff being easy to find is definitely a your-mileage-may-vary thing. I never had an issue seeing the first Deluxe wave that was SS reissues (it had to get clearanced out to leave) or the gimmicky stuff I had no interest in, but my Target only just got Origins Bee in time for Christmas and never got any stock of the Worlds Collide set despite having a tag for it even.

Also has Pulse ever put up a retailer exclusive that DIDN'T sell out, other than the non-transforming R.E.Ds?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128491)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 2nd, 2022 @ 2:31pm CST

Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I am just curious why the 2 Buzzworthy items sold out so quickly on Pulse? (Kup and Cliffjumper) I mean it could partly be, because Pulse just had a small supply (knowing that Target was the main retailer for these). But even as desirable repaints, its not exactly as if Buzzworthy stuff is hard to find. I've not had any trouble seeing any of them. Even the highly praised origins BB is still in my area. I even saw the super rare "worlds collide" 4-pack multiple times, once I could have even got it 25% off, but passed.

I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?
To be fair, the BB stuff being easy to find is definitely a your-mileage-may-vary thing. I never had an issue seeing the first Deluxe wave that was SS reissues (it had to get clearanced out to leave) or the gimmicky stuff I had no interest in, but my Target only just got Origins Bee in time for Christmas and never got any stock of the Worlds Collide set despite having a tag for it even.

Also has Pulse ever put up a retailer exclusive that DIDN'T sell out, other than the non-transforming R.E.Ds?

Yeah, that "limited qualities available on Pulse" line is legit. Even outside of Transformers, many of the Hasbro retailer exclusives quickly sell out on Pulse. I'm sure there's at least as much demand for those two as other recent Target exclusives.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128500)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 2nd, 2022 @ 3:32pm CST

Also consider the total production numbers of BB Cliff and Kup are likely to be fewer than Sludge and Junkheap since they are mainline releases. If Pulse retains the same small quantities of the partner exclusives as they do for main releases, the quantities for the main releases on Pulse would be higher than the exclusives to being with.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128503)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 2nd, 2022 @ 3:48pm CST

o.supreme wrote:I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?

This is likely a much larger demographic than you realize. There are plenty of rural areas where there isn't a Target within a 40 miles, especially once you get away from the larger cities. There are even more where there is only one Target within 40 miles, but if that Target just doesn't get product often enough, you may be out of luck. Plus if you have to drive 30+ miles just to hope they have something in stock, what's the point?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128506)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 2nd, 2022 @ 4:15pm CST

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I'm guessing it may be for the small demographic in the U.S. that may not have a Target in close proximity to them?

This is likely a much larger demographic than you realize. There are plenty of rural areas where there isn't a Target within a 40 miles, especially once you get away from the larger cities. There are even more where there is only one Target within 40 miles, but if that Target just doesn't get product often enough, you may be out of luck. Plus if you have to drive 30+ miles just to hope they have something in stock, what's the point?

I have a nearby Target that I go to every week, and I get the 5% discount from Red Card, but I still order from Pulse whenever I can. I pre-order everything, it's just so much more convenient.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128508)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on March 2nd, 2022 @ 5:04pm CST

Most likely through all of next year I'll stick to putting the vast majority of my "For-sure-buying" figures on preorder.
I just still can't trust that I'm ever going to see figures in-person, no matter how many Targets or Walmarts I go to.

Has there been any rumor that this Cliffjumper will be repacked into SS86?

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128510)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 2nd, 2022 @ 5:32pm CST

Sowndwave76 wrote:Has there been any rumor that this Cliffjumper will be repacked into SS86?

None so far, no.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128511)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 2nd, 2022 @ 5:33pm CST

Sowndwave76 wrote:Has there been any rumor that this Cliffjumper will be repacked into SS86?

Don't count on it. He's in the same boat as that BB High Octane Bumblebee re-release: special ID code, but no real reason for a separate release outside of the line.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128521)
Posted by william-james88 on March 2nd, 2022 @ 7:38pm CST

o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:People want them... Not sure why you're shocked.

Ahh yes, crazy me for thinking that brand new items like SS86 Sludge, and Junkheap, would sell better than 2 slight repaints, on a subline, that will likely shelf warm like all the others in the Buzzworthy line. Of course I am constantly reminded that I live in some sort of retail "bubble" that is the opposite of reality. (where whether something is desirable or not, I can only ever find the things I have no interest in)

*I do see now that Sludge pre-orders have sold out on Pulse, but that wasn't the case as of yesterday.

You can't compare the exlusives to non exclusives on Pulse since Pulse will only get at most 10% of all stock destined for US retail. And the entirety of fans could only buy them from Pulse online yesterday, unlike the other non exclusives. Target will get the remaining 90%. Them not selling out first would be more odd.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128528)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 2nd, 2022 @ 10:50pm CST

I finally found BB Cliffjumper today! It's only the second Target I've been to in my area this week (out of 10 or so) that had the new Deluxe wave in stock. I only saw a lone B-127 on the pegs, so I asked a nearby employee stocking the shelves if they had more of that assortment in the back, and they did! He asked me which character I wanted, and a few minutes later, he handed me a brand new Cliffjumper! I could barely contain my glee!

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Posted by sol magnus on March 3rd, 2022 @ 8:56am CST

o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:People want them... Not sure why you're shocked.

Ahh yes, crazy me for thinking that brand new items like SS86 Sludge, and Junkheap, would sell better than 2 slight repaints, on a subline, that will likely shelf warm like all the others in the Buzzworthy line. Of course I am constantly reminded that I live in some sort of retail "bubble" that is the opposite of reality. (where whether something is desirable or not, I can only ever find the things I have no interest in)

*I do see now that Sludge pre-orders have sold out on Pulse, but that wasn't the case as of yesterday.

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm also fairly certain (without direct evidence, mind) that the quantities of the BBB figures are going to be a lot less than the numbers they pre-ordered for Sludge, etc.

I still don't think these are 'just slight repaints' in that they sort of fulfill something the previous versions didn't. They look more like they do on screen, which like it or not, is how people mostly associate with their respective appearances.

I didn't want to have to buy repaints on these two, but I feel they're overall superior to what I have, and so there's a market for that (for me). A lot of people seem to agree, going by the presales. I didn't order them, cuz I picked em up in store on Sunday, but there are people who don't have easy access to a Target. One of good friends usually has to rely on me to get him Target stuff - this time he was able to preorder them, so I won't have to hunt down doubles for him.

I would have rathered (in Kup's case) to only have gotten the 'more accurate' version, but I don't have a crystal ball, so they got me for another one. I don't blame them, I blame me.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128568)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on March 4th, 2022 @ 1:39pm CST

sol magnus wrote:I would have rathered (in Kup's case) to only have gotten the 'more accurate' version, but I don't have a crystal ball, so they got me for another one. I don't blame them, I blame me.

Why would you blame yourself?
No one would've or could've guessed a SS86 figure would've been given a new, even more accurate version...
This is 100% on Hastak...
And I'm not saying that as though I'm mad. I'm very happy to have these new versions.
But while we share very similar opinions on other aspects of the matter, I just don't think anyone can point a figure at themselves for buying the first versions of these characters.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128569)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on March 4th, 2022 @ 1:44pm CST

Sowndwave76 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I would have rathered (in Kup's case) to only have gotten the 'more accurate' version, but I don't have a crystal ball, so they got me for another one. I don't blame them, I blame me.

Why would you blame yourself?
No one would've or could've guessed a SS86 figure would've been given a new, even more accurate version...
This is 100% on Hastak...
And I'm not saying that as though I'm mad. I'm very happy to have these new versions.
But while we share very similar opinions on other aspects of the matter, I just don't think anyone can point a figure at themselves for buying the first versions of these characters.

I blame myself for buying the earlier ones insofar as I blame myself for collecting at all, pretending that some future day will arrive when my collection is perfect and complete, that the beast may someday finally be sated and demand no more from me, that a time exists when my suffering will end....

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128570)
Posted by sol magnus on March 4th, 2022 @ 1:45pm CST

Sowndwave76 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I would have rathered (in Kup's case) to only have gotten the 'more accurate' version, but I don't have a crystal ball, so they got me for another one. I don't blame them, I blame me.

Why would you blame yourself?
No one would've or could've guessed a SS86 figure would've been given a new, even more accurate version...
This is 100% on Hastak...
And I'm not saying that as though I'm mad. I'm very happy to have these new versions.
But while we share very similar opinions on other aspects of the matter, I just don't think anyone can point a figure at themselves for buying the first versions of these characters.

I mean, I blame me for buying it again - not being happy with what I already have. Hastak makes toys to sell them. But no one says we have to buy everything they make. I'm supposed to be cutting back this year, but it's not really even slated to start until Legacy comes out. I think I've gotten everything except Black Zarak released this year for Generations.

Plus I bought a Unicron.

Re: New Buzzworthy Bumblebee SS Deluxes Found in the US and UK (2128591)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on March 6th, 2022 @ 12:21pm CST

AcademyofDrX wrote:I blame myself for buying the earlier ones insofar as I blame myself for collecting at all, pretending that some future day will arrive when my collection is perfect and complete, that the beast may someday finally be sated and demand no more from me, that a time exists when my suffering will end....

Yeah, I get this... Although I'm getting past an ideal of "perfect collection"... Not trying to make it more than what it is, but it has taken time and experience to get to this place of, "I chose to pass on certain figures, and it may just work out that I don't have those characters on a shelf".
Siege Astrotrain is a perfect example. Refraktor is another. I was against Sunstreaker at first, then changed my mind around the time ER Sideswipe was announced, but never saw him or almost anything else from that ER wave. Sure, I can go back for these on the secondary market... But I'm not going to force anything, pay a stupid amount, or stress at all about this stuff.
Probably a very unpopular opinion around here, but these are TOYS... Imo, this "hobby" is the most materialistic part of my life.
It's getting more and more difficult to justify for multiple reasons.
Increased prices are a really firm nudge to get out of the game.
It's still pretty crazy to me that 3 Sharkticons were $75... And at that time, that included tax.

Anyway... Dinobots, Insecticons, and Blitzwing... That's it for me in terms of getting over the finish line. And sure, Perceptor is on the way, I'm planning on Blaster, the Stunticons, and probably Core Class Rumble.
But even those are just icing and not "must have's".
About the only thing that would pull me back in would be a new set of Constructicons.
Of course appearance, cost, a possibly stupid play gimmick would all factor in.
I also wouldn't actually label that as being "pulled back in" even though it'd be 6 figures.

sol magnus wrote:I mean, I blame me for buying it again - not being happy with what I already have. Hastak makes toys to sell them. But no one says we have to buy everything they make. I'm supposed to be cutting back this year, but it's not really even slated to start until Legacy comes out. I think I've gotten everything except Black Zarak released this year for Generations.

Plus I bought a Unicron.

I do see how that Unicron purchase alone could make almost any other one dicey...
The vast majority of the time I agree with you both-- of course no one ever has to buy any of this stuff.
But these repaints specifically, are an exception imo.
These aren't characters that I would say are that popular. Meaning, first, they didn't seem super likely to get this sort of attention. Second, who knows how long it will be before these characters get another version. And third, these new versions are going to be difficult to top.
It may happen someday, but I'm really betting the next versions of these characters will be so heavily tied to some play gimmick that appearances will be just as heavily compromised.
And at this point, Hastak probably feels like they now have the greenlight to get away from screen-accurate appearances and do something really different.
So bottom line, I don't blame anyone for getting these guys even having their first releases.

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