New Galleries: Generations TG-12 Air Raid and Arms Micron AM-29 Shockwave with Bido

Funny how Hasbro's Shockwave is actually the one with the better paintjob this time around.

Skywarp64 wrote:Funny how Hasbro's Shockwave is actually the one with the better paintjob this time around.

Same can be said for almost everything released under Takara's Arms Micron line where there is a Hasbro version, since AM relies heavily on stickers for decos.

ScottyP wrote:

Skywarp64 wrote:Funny how Hasbro's Shockwave is actually the one with the better paintjob this time around.

Same can be said for almost everything released under Takara's Arms Micron line where there is a Hasbro version, since AM relies heavily on stickers for decos.

I guess I wouldn't know, I only recently started following transformers again.

Skywarp64 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

Skywarp64 wrote:Funny how Hasbro's Shockwave is actually the one with the better paintjob this time around.

Same can be said for almost everything released under Takara's Arms Micron line where there is a Hasbro version, since AM relies heavily on stickers for decos.

I guess I wouldn't know, I only recently started following transformers again.

Welcome back! Yeah the Takara release of most "mainline" Prime toys was pretty controversial, they traded paint for metallic stickers and microns and the success is quite hit or miss. Some of the stickers on the earlier releases have really cheap adhesive, and some are even made to go over oddly large/complex surfaces. For instance, AM-01 Optimus Prime's feet are colored in properly purely by one sticker per foot, it's not the best idea they've ever had. Anyway, hope you enjoyed this bit of unsolicited trivia

Skywarp64 wrote:Funny how Hasbro's Shockwave is actually the one with the better paintjob this time around.

That's debatable. I actually find Hasbro's to be a bit too dark for my tastes so I gave the Takara version the weapon from the Hasbro version and he represents FoC Shockwave on my shelf. As for actual paint apps, there's not a lot of differences between the two other than on the wings.

As for the whole Takara vs Hasbro Rhinox debate, I have both and can be counted among those who prefers Takara's. The shiny paint isn't so shiny that it makes him look 'metallic' and the color is much closer to his brown appearance in the majority of episodes of Beast Wars. The Hasbro version is far too pale for my tastes and it didn't help that they didn't paint his weapons (though those could be easily swapped between them if you've got both versions, of course).

It bothers me though that Takara didn't take the extra step of painting on the two gold lines on his shoulders even though the mold has two bits molded in that end up placed pretty much perfectly for it. It would be nice to see the mold get the 'Telemocha' treatment with a perfect/near perfect show-accurate deco one of these days.

As for Waspinator, Takara's is definitely closer to the show, although it isn't perfect and I did do some painting and parts swapping with the Hasbro version to achieve the right look. His stinger needed to be black, he needed that gold turned yellow for the stripes etc., he needed black on his head crest thingy, he needed blue for his robot mode eyes instead of white, he needed the lighter green center torso/crotch bits from the Hasbro version and he needed the 'discs' in his shoulders to be painted yellow instead of being the same green as the rest of his arms. Once that was done, he became pretty much perfect and has now replaced my customized 10th Anniversary Waspinator on my Beast Wars Season 1 Predacons shelf.

We still need proper versions of the following though, so I can replace my kitbashes and customized versions:

Cheetor (season 1)
Airazor
Tigatron
Blackarachnia (season 1-2)
Terrorsaur
Scorponok (though when painted, he's pretty much perfect)
Megatron (Season 3, he seriously needs an update as he's the coolest version of any Megatron ever, but the toy is a real letdown primarily due to his aborted 'pilot' gimmick)
Tarantulas (season 1, though when painted, he's pretty much perfect, at least in bot mode)
Optimal Optimus (if they modded the existing toy to allow those cannons to fold back and be separate from the head similar to the Titanium version, that would go a long way to fix him)

The jury is still out on Rattrap until I get both versions (Hasbro's and Takara's) in hand, and while Henkei Dinobot isn't without its flaws, with a proper sword (a silver painted version of the sword from the original Dinobot mold) he's pretty much spot-on and sizes up well with Telemocha Optimus Primal, Basics Rattrap, Telemocha Cheetor (again, custom painted) and the rest of the Axalon crew from season 1.

Anyway, I got a custom 3rd party Shapeways head for Tigatron that pretty much fixed him (along with some modding of the figure itself to fix his bot mode chest) but I'd like to see more HasTak updates (MP pleeeeeeease!!!!) and/or 3rd party Beast Wars figures to flesh out the ranks with better, more show accurate versions of the characters. There aren't that many, so it wouldn't take as long as say, trying to complete the entire G1 cast or anything so I hope someone (official or not, though I prefer official) will take up the task of doing it.

Anyway, I'm glad to see the galleries getting filled out with some of the less current stuff/lines lately. It's awesome to have this invaluable resource that is Seibertron.com become more complete.

With how the Hasbro version's gun barrel keeps popping off, my love for bug-bots, and the color scheme not being significantly different or reliant on stickers, I kinda feel like I should've just sprung for Takara's Shockwave. *shrug* Ah well...


I like how the Air Raids look distinct from Shockwave. Like you wouldn't think repaint/retool by looking at them.

xyl360 wrote:Megatron (Season 3, he seriously needs an update as he's the coolest version of any Megatron ever

Really? I never would have guessed that about you.

Nice galleries as always Ryan. I bought the Takara Shockwave to use as a stand in for classics shockwave, but quickly replaced him on my shelf with BH Shockwave until a more G1 version comes out. Im not a fan of the Air Raid/Fireflight use of the mold. The best use so far has been Brimstone.

Rated X wrote:Nice galleries as always Ryan. I bought the Takara Shockwave to use as a stand in for classics shockwave, but quickly replaced him on my shelf with BH Shockwave until a more G1 version comes out. Im not a fan of the Air Raid/Fireflight use of the mold. The best use so far has been Brimstone.

Have you seen the Takara version of Beast Hunters Shockwave? That purple metallic paint on him is quite beautiful. He's also currently my 'Classics' Shockwave.

xyl360 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Nice galleries as always Ryan. I bought the Takara Shockwave to use as a stand in for classics shockwave, but quickly replaced him on my shelf with BH Shockwave until a more G1 version comes out. Im not a fan of the Air Raid/Fireflight use of the mold. The best use so far has been Brimstone.

Have you seen the Takara version of Beast Hunters Shockwave? That purple metallic paint on him is quite beautiful. He's also currently my 'Classics' Shockwave.

I think that's the version he was referring to. True, he only said "BH Shockwave", but I think I recall his once or twice saying how he has the Takara BH Shockwave (i.e. - Go! Hunter Shockwave).

New gallery time! Courtesy of the photographing machine that is our site owner, Seibertron, today's subject comes from the much-revered Generations line, the newly released Voyager Roadbuster!

Roadbuster, like Whirl, is an homage to the Generation One Deluxe Vehicle of the same name, reimagined by the magic of modern engineering. Much like the earlier Generations Whirl, Roadbuster also comes with a selection of weapons that use a modular system. Want a scoped, precision-style M16-like weapon? You got it! Also included with Roadbuster is a sticker sheet, which adds even more detail on the Autobot. Check out the preliminary images below, and view the gallery by clicking the link below!

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Sky-Byte, that is he!

Huh, first Sky-Byte, and now Roadbuster has a peg hole for a stand like Figma and Tamashii. Do all figures have that?

Mindmaster wrote:

WRECK AND RULE!

Looking great, nice gallery! I'll probably leave a few of the stickers off, but he is a really awesome figure. Can't wait to display him and Whirl side-by-side.

Does the orange armor on the upper legs extend outward for robot mode? It kind of looks that way, he looks a little beefier than previous images have suggested. If so, that's a really cool feature, I'm glad they did that!

kirbenvost wrote:Looking great, nice gallery! I'll probably leave a few of the stickers off, but he is a really awesome figure. Can't wait to display him and Whirl side-by-side.

Does the orange armor on the upper legs extend outward for robot mode? It kind of looks that way, he looks a little beefier than previous images have suggested. If so, that's a really cool feature, I'm glad they did that!

It doesn't do that. The upper leg is one piece of plastic.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Huh, first Sky-Byte, and now Roadbuster has a peg hole for a stand like Figma and Tamashii. Do all figures have that?

I know some of the AOE Dinos have them, so... maybe?

Yweggo wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Huh, first Sky-Byte, and now Roadbuster has a peg hole for a stand like Figma and Tamashii. Do all figures have that?

I know some of the AOE Dinos have them, so... maybe?

Ahhh so that's what that hole is under AoE Slugs tail. I was wondring about that.

Seibertron wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Looking great, nice gallery! I'll probably leave a few of the stickers off, but he is a really awesome figure. Can't wait to display him and Whirl side-by-side.

Does the orange armor on the upper legs extend outward for robot mode? It kind of looks that way, he looks a little beefier than previous images have suggested. If so, that's a really cool feature, I'm glad they did that!

It doesn't do that. The upper leg is one piece of plastic.

Ah, I see. Must just be the camera angles. Anyway, it looks great!

I can be convinced to want this.

Tigertrack wrote:I can be convinced to want this.

Tigertrack says: "You must buy Generations Voyager Class Roadbuster!"

Seibertron wrote:

Tigertrack wrote:I can be convinced to want this.

Tigertrack says: "You must buy Generations Voyager Class Roadbuster!"

Truth!

the roadbuster figure itself, im warming up to. but if i do get him ill likely go for the takara version. not only am i not a fan of stickers on modern TF's, but its so huge! its kinda garish.

shajaki wrote:the roadbuster figure itself, im warming up to. but if i do get him ill likely go for the takara version. not only am i not a fan of stickers on modern TF's, but its so huge! its kinda garish.

And very retro like his G1 self who also comes with very similarly scaled stickers.

Roadbuster looks pretty badass!

Very nice. Looks great along with Springer, Whirl, and Sandstorm in any collection. Wreck-n-Rule!

Seibertron wrote:

shajaki wrote:the roadbuster figure itself, im warming up to. but if i do get him ill likely go for the takara version. not only am i not a fan of stickers on modern TF's, but its so huge! its kinda garish.

And very retro like his G1 self who also comes with very similarly scaled stickers.

some things should stay in the 80's

Generations Sky-Byte

You know, I'm not sure I like the curved body the new Sky-Byte has. I wish he was more straight like the original.

Wait, if the BotCon Sky-Byte gallery has been updated, why not the older galleries. For example, the Armada Scavenger gallery doesn't have enough pictures of him and Rollbar. Also to mention that there weren't any comparison pictures. Are the older galleries going to have an update? It'll be awesome if so.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Wait, if the BotCon Sky-Byte gallery has been updated, why not the older galleries. For example, the Armada Scavenger gallery doesn't have enough pictures of him and Rollbar. Also to mention that there weren't any comparison pictures. Are the older galleries going to have an update? It'll be awesome if so.

Yep, I've been thinking the same, especially for a lot of the older galleries where there exist no comparison to their mold-mates/repaints and their variants (like Hasbro vs Takara etc.). If done right, it could be a better resource than tfu.info for getting all of the info on a particular mold and character, which would be awesome, especially since Ryan's galleries absolutely destroy the images on tfu.info and actually give you a real idea of what the figure's going to look like in hand instead of the inkling you get looking at the individual bot and alt mode pics on tfu.

The only thing that bothers me about skybyte is those calves... or the lack thereof.

It's kinda sad how the only Sky-Byte toy whose altmode isn't bent in some awkward position that inhibits it from pointing in a straightforward direction or resembling the character at rest is the BotCon toy, and that one isn't even a shark nor a mold that was meant to be Sky-Byte.

Ryan, I love that you included the TCC Side Burn and Scourge toys in there to go with the theme of updated RiD character toys. That's a real nice touch.

Though, there is one more "updated RiD character toy" not included in these group shots, and I can imagine why since it's a toy of a RiD character who wasn't in the RiD cartoon due to his being a Hasbro-made toy-only character, but I bring this up only because I think it would still have been nice for it to have been included and would have enhanced the theme (but I make no demands for this): Universe Bruticus.

One of those updates where you're better off going with the original...

Noideaforaname wrote:One of those updates where you're better off going with the original...

I agree. I didn't need or want a new Sky-Byte. After owning the new version, I don't feel that we've gained anything from having a new figure. The robot mode head is an improvement and helps separate him from Cybershark. While the shark mode is more cartoon accurate than the original, it's not something I wanted at all. A great white shark should have a big frikkin' mouth. The original toy pulled this off very well. The horrible lower legs, the lack of a wrist swivel, the lack of a gun or hand held accessory and several other issues really turned me off about the new toy. This might be the first Generations toy I've been really disappointed with since FOC Bruticus.

Well done Mindmaster

Skybyte... I'd probably just get him for the comics shelf, and nothing else.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Wait, if the BotCon Sky-Byte gallery has been updated, why not the older galleries. For example, the Armada Scavenger gallery doesn't have enough pictures of him and Rollbar. Also to mention that there weren't any comparison pictures. Are the older galleries going to have an update? It'll be awesome if so.

Armada Scavenger's gallery is one of my original galleries from 2002, 2 years before I started doing the galleries in their current form. His gallery is due to get a makeover at some point. He's not a real popular character and, to be honest, his toy is one of the worst toys from the past 15 years. I still have the Energon version of the Scavenger mold sealed in his package and will redo Armada Scavenger's gallery when I decide to do Energon Scavenger's gallery. Unless a new "Generations" styled Armada Scavenger toy comes out, I probably won't get to Armada Scavenger and his Energon repaint for a few years yet ... not until after I've completed galleries for more prominent characters who are absent from the galleries like the Decepticon Headmasters, the Targetmasters, Defensor, Liokaiser, Metroplex, Trypticon, the Deluxe Insecticons, the Headmaster "Juniors", Six Shot, Quickswitch, Great Shot, Six Knight, etc.

xyl360 wrote:Yep, I've been thinking the same, especially for a lot of the older galleries where there exist no comparison to their mold-mates/repaints and their variants (like Hasbro vs Takara etc.). If done right, it could be a better resource than tfu.info for getting all of the info on a particular mold and character, which would be awesome, especially since Ryan's galleries absolutely destroy the images on tfu.info and actually give you a real idea of what the figure's going to look like in hand instead of the inkling you get looking at the individual bot and alt mode pics on tfu.

If comparison shots are in a later figure's gallery, then that's where the comparison shots will stay. If you could provide an example of someone who is missing their comparison shots, I can update it at a later date or show you where the comparison shots currently are in our galleries.

The only reason Club Scourge's gallery got updated was because someone had asked for those shots over a year ago when his gallery launched and I should have included those comparison shots with Side Burn and Sky-Byte at that time but had totally blanked on that. Hearing rumors that a Generations Sky-Byte was coming down the pipes, I decided it was best to wait to do comparison shots when I did the new Sky-Byte's gallery.

Sabrblade wrote:It's kinda sad how the only Sky-Byte toy whose altmode isn't bent in some awkward position that inhibits it from pointing in a straightforward direction or resembling the character at rest is the BotCon toy, and that one isn't even a shark nor a mold that was meant to be Sky-Byte.

Ryan, I love that you included the TCC Side Burn and Scourge toys in there to go with the theme of updated RiD character toys. That's a real nice touch.

Though, there is one more "updated RiD character toy" not included in these group shots, and I can imagine why since it's a toy of a RiD character who wasn't in the RiD cartoon due to his being a Hasbro-made toy-only character, but I bring this up only because I think it would still have been nice for it to have been included and would have enhanced the theme (but I make no demands for this): Universe Bruticus.

I think we can live without comparison shots with Bruticus. Maybe for the next RID update I'll bust him out to include with the others.

Seibertron wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Yep, I've been thinking the same, especially for a lot of the older galleries where there exist no comparison to their mold-mates/repaints and their variants (like Hasbro vs Takara etc.). If done right, it could be a better resource than tfu.info for getting all of the info on a particular mold and character, which would be awesome, especially since Ryan's galleries absolutely destroy the images on tfu.info and actually give you a real idea of what the figure's going to look like in hand instead of the inkling you get looking at the individual bot and alt mode pics on tfu.

If comparison shots are in a later figure's gallery, then that's where the comparison shots will stay. If you could provide an example of someone who is missing their comparison shots, I can update it at a later date or show you where the comparison shots currently are in our galleries.

Any version of Waspinator compared to the Buzzsaw repaint. I think maybe one of the Waspinator galleries (Generations?) shows Buzzsaw. More than that though, the Other Galleries You Might Be Interested In ... section at the bottom of each gallery often has some glaring omissions. If each character's gallery for each version of it had an image/link to each other version of that same character as well as any other repaints/retools of that same mold, it would serve all of the same functions for reference that sites like TFU provide, but again, with much better/more comprehensive images thanks to the galleries on this site.

I realize that may not necessarily be the purpose of the galleries and all, but it sure would be handy, especially for the obsessive types like me who tend to buy every version/variant of a mold they like and/or character they like no matter what it is. Just cross-linking them all like that would be sufficient, the comparison shots are just gravy and it's understandable due to timing and release dates that each gallery for each figure can't contain comparison shots with all other versions/variants etc. (because one or more may not have existed when the gallery was created, for example).

As another example, if you take the gallery for Botcon Ginrai, it contains comparison shots with (I think?) just about every variant of that mold no matter who the character is that it represents (which is ideal, for me at least), but then below it the only recommended galleries are those of other Botcon 2014 figures and none of the other figures that shared that Classics Prime mold. Having links down there to all their galleries would be handy to take a look at the other variants more closely and even other figures/versions of Ginrai (like the Japanese Godmaster himself; although you did include comparisons to the original Fireguts Ginrai that inspired the Botcon figure, which is great).

Seibertron wrote:Unless a new "Generations" styled Armada Scavenger toy comes out...

Please, Has/Tak... make this come true! I'll pay all the monies for an updated Armada Scavenger!

Mindmaster wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Unless a new "Generations" styled Armada Scavenger toy comes out...

Please, Has/Tak... make this come true! I'll pay all the monies for an updated Armada Scavenger!

Ir's funny that Ryan would mention that because we really were so close to having a Generations Armada Scavenger toy earlier this year.

According to Joe Kyde, Generations Scoop was originally either going to be Scoop or Armada Scavenger, and Kyde chose Scoop since A) his orange colors would provide a better contrast with the rest of his case assortment (Armada Starscream, Skywarp, and the Mini-Cons), B) Kyde felt that the Targetmasters deserved some attention, and C) a Deluxe mold would do Scoop more justice than the much larger Scavenger.

And, well, there already was an Armada homage figure in that case assortment thanks to Starscream.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Unless a new "Generations" styled Armada Scavenger toy comes out...

Please, Has/Tak... make this come true! I'll pay all the monies for an updated Armada Scavenger!

Ir's funny that Ryan would mention that because we really were so close to having a Generations Armada Scavenger toy earlier this year.

According to Joe Kyde, Generations Scoop was originally either going to be Scoop or Armada Scavenger, and Kyde chose Scoop since A) his orange colors would provide a better contrast with the rest of his case assortment (Armada Starscream, Skywarp, and the Mini-Cons), B) Kyde felt that the Targetmasters deserved some attention, and C) a Deluxe mold would do Scoop more justice than the much larger Scavenger.

And, well, there already was an Armada homage figure in that case assortment thanks to Starscream.

I'd like to see a proper Voyager Class Armada Scavenger done right. With actual legs would be awesome, but he needs the "bulk" of a larger figure that a deluxe can't do justice for.

Nice gallery. I'm looking forward to this fig. I'm curious though, what's that wee tripod stand your using there? I want one.

MGrotusque wrote:Nice gallery. I'm looking forward to this fig. I'm curious though, what's that wee tripod stand your using there? I want one.

I did some digging for you. This seems to be a very close match to what is used in the galleries. Seems like the standard stand (2.5-inch rods) is about ten bucks. Might actually invest in a set or two myself.

Mindmaster wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Nice gallery. I'm looking forward to this fig. I'm curious though, what's that wee tripod stand your using there? I want one.

I did some digging for you. This seems to be a very close match to what is used in the galleries. Seems like the standard stand (2.5-inch rods) is about ten bucks. Might actually invest in a set or two myself.

Flight pose stands are what I use ... most of the time I use the 4 inch stand

it appears all 3 sizes are 10$ straight.

Mindmaster wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Nice gallery. I'm looking forward to this fig. I'm curious though, what's that wee tripod stand your using there? I want one.

I did some digging for you. This seems to be a very close match to what is used in the galleries. Seems like the standard stand (2.5-inch rods) is about ten bucks. Might actually invest in a set or two myself.

Thank you! Much appreciated

Are you ready to rumble? Seibertron.com is proud to present the first Transformers Leader class of the Generations line, part of the Thrilling 30 Anniversary monicker: the Autobot that wasn´t to begin with, Jetfire! Check out the impressive gallery by clicking on any of the images below, and compare it to the Cybertron Con Henkei version too, all below for your enjoyment.

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Transformers Henkei Jetfire

I must admit I wasn't overly impressed when the first stock photos of Jetfire came out but now I'm seriously considering him. These photos have me all excited! The only niggling doubt I have is the chrome on ALL his weapons...not a fan at all.

Otherwise he looks great - cool jetmode, nice G1-ish bot mode. I love the comparison shots, his size has made me lose interest in Classic Jetfire entirely. A gorgeous figure shot very well.

Definitely getting the new Jetfire, but he's going to need some Reprolables to do something about those stark white legs. I don't know how in 2014 they can release a figure with so little paint like that. If he lacks paint because of all that chrome then I would much prefer the paint details.

Emerje

Is there any version with plain red instead of chrome? I will get one, fit perfect in scale with metroplex and legion class