New Images of Earthrise Ironhide, Prowl, Ramjet and Dirge

Cool. Tail coats are coming back into fashion! Thanks Ironhide!

Burn wrote:Cool. Tail coats are coming back into fashion! Thanks Ironhide!

Feh, that roof tailcoat is nowhere near as good as this:

Now there's a nice roof tailcoat - nicely hinged and everything.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I see. I have yet to open my Siege Apeface so I don't know how bad he is in hand. I'm still getting Snapdragon, mainly to complete the pair. even if 1 of them looks crappy, to me they still go together and I'll have them both. Now, if both of them look like **** then of course they will not be staying.

I love apeface, (just be careful with his shield) the connection of the beast head to the ape body isn't the best, but it's solid once together

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, as ZeroWolf points out, there apparently is a cover. It's just that the marketing and PR idiots prove for the umpteenth time that they can't be trusted with anything more complex than a One-Step.

Excuse me, sir? Do all of us Lycanthropic Americans look the same to you? For shame!

And in return, I would like to point out that even Lycanthropes can be american centric. Zerowolf resides in the UK, and no, he is not an american werewolf in london.

Sadly I'm just a British werewolf in Teesside

Ahem

As for these latest shots, the coneheads are looking quite nice. So I'm now wondering which one came first, the idea to retool Elita from Earthrise Arcee or the decision to make her a major character in the show.

Possibly the latter, considering that Elita has been on Hasbro's radar more strongly the past few years.

Although the decision to make her an ER Arcee retool obviously came relatively early in ER Arcee's development.And is the reason the mold has the issues it does; they seem to have made it a total shellformer for the sake of making the robot body easy to swap out for a different one.
Ugh... It doesn't suit Elita very well (it would be better as Ariel) and it came at cost to Arcee's quality as a transforming to... Blagh. To the complaint box!

The coneheads look AMAZING. No regret preordering. They will look great beside my G1 Platinum set. Prowl and Ironhide don't look good at all. Not enough colors and that embarrassing misstransformation doesn't do them any favor.

Ramjet and Dirge look fantastic. If they do Ratchet out of the Earth mode Ironhide I’ll probably get it.

The Coneheads actually look pretty cool. I'm not so keen on the mold for the main Seekers, but the Coneheads were always B-listers IMO, and they do seem to wear the mold better. I might try and get them.

Is it just me or does Dirge look a little surprised with the open mouth? ER Skywarp is definitely shouting, but Dirge looks more like he's shocked or surprised.

aronjlove wrote:Is it just me or does Dirge look a little surprised with the open mouth? ER Skywarp is definitely shouting, but Dirge looks more like he's shocked or surprised.

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Is it just me or does Dirge look a little surprised with the open mouth? ER Skywarp is definitely shouting, but Dirge looks more like he's shocked or surprised.

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yeah, exactly!

Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Budget probably

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

There's this thing called budget.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, as ZeroWolf points out, there apparently is a cover. It's just that the marketing and PR idiots prove for the umpteenth time that they can't be trusted with anything more complex than a One-Step.

Excuse me, sir? Do all of us Lycanthropic Americans look the same to you? For shame!

And in return, I would like to point out that even Lycanthropes can be american centric. Zerowolf resides in the UK, and no, he is not an american werewolf in london.

Sadly I'm just a British werewolf in Teesside

England is like the werewolf homeland.

I can't wait to get Ramjet and Dirge, but I hope we don't have to wait too long for Earthrise Trust. I'm going to want to put Ramjet and Dirge on my display shelf ASAP, but poor old "Classics" Thrust will look out of place with them, like they brought him to "take your kid to work day" or something.

Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.

Must be the angle. He looks like he's the same size as Siege Ironhide to me.

Just got my Doubledealer from Amazon and I have to say he's a good figure. Not perfect, but definitely a fun figure to mess with. Also, I was looking at the map section and realized that the inner packaging for him has the Mercenary faction symbol despite the Decepticon branding on the outside, and Autobot badges in the promo art. Makes me wonder if Snapdragon's packaging is the same, cause wasn't he called a Mercenary at NYCC?

So, unrelated note, but anyone can tell me how I can order Scorponok? He's outta stock on the Pulse, and last I checked, Amazon wasn't carrying him.

sol magnus wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.

Must be the angle. He looks like he's the same size as Siege Ironhide to me.

Did the toys have different weapons? I can't remember their weapons being different now that you mention it

sol magnus wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

The G1 originals didn't had null rays but huge missiles or bombs.




The complaint is valid as far as G1 toy accuracy is concerned. Hoh well, Shapeway or 3P upgrade kits it will be.

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.

Must be the angle. He looks like he's the same size as Siege Ironhide to me.

Did the toys have different weapons? I can't remember their weapons being different now that you mention it

The toy jets (Ramjet and Dirge) did indeed have different guns. Thrust had the same as the original three. On the show, though, Ramjet and Dirge had different 'guns' on the planes, but the same guns as robots.

maybe hasbro accessory pack 2 with another figure down the line for their guns. Not too worried when its hard enough at the mo to get thundercraker/skywarp.

Well we know this trilogy is all about hewing as close to the animation models as possible

The guns don't bother me. Ironhide's roof shield and shoulders sticking out in vehicle mode? It's very inelegant. They were really not planning on making him in Earthrise when the Siege version was made because that could have been handled better.

Prowl looks good, IMO. Just a standard Autobot car. Which is all I wanted from him.

But they're all still way better then the universe and classics molds, so I'm good.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Possibly the latter, considering that Elita has been on Hasbro's radar more strongly the past few years.

Although the decision to make her an ER Arcee retool obviously came relatively early in ER Arcee's development.And is the reason the mold has the issues it does; they seem to have made it a total shellformer for the sake of making the robot body easy to swap out for a different one.
Ugh... It doesn't suit Elita very well (it would be better as Ariel) and it came at cost to Arcee's quality as a transforming to... Blagh. To the complaint box!

What's more annoying is that the front of the cars are actually different, but couldn't be bothered to shape them differently.




They went through the trouble of giving different "headlights" that give it a slight more slope and a vent on top over the wheel, but could have done something more radical like a sharper angled fork similar to Pointblank.



Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:Well we know this trilogy is all about hewing as close to the animation models as possible

To the point that they remembered that Dirge's lovehandles aren't blue, but gunmetal gray/black! Not even the Masterpiece figure got that right!



Too bad the face is too light and the cockpit is completely the wrong color on the new Earthrise figure.

The cockpit on the animation model look like plain clear. So the ER version is accurate.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The cockpit on the animation model look like plain clear. So the ER version is accurate.

Look again. That's a yellow cockpit on Earthrise Dirge (and Ramjet).

william-james88 wrote:

Although, some promotional shots show that it is clear instead, but with a face painted stark white! The test shots we saw of Thrust and Dirge have clear cockpit windows too, but again Dirge has his face painted white, which is completely wrong. We've got different differences between the CG renders, the leaked test shots, and now these promotional images of actual figures from Takara Tomy. It's entirely possible that these are again non-final production models, as happened with Earthrise Optimus Prime, who's plastic colors and paint apps just kept changing between renders, convention samples, and official promotional photography.
Who knows what the final products will actually look like at this point.

Yeah, the seekers look awesome... Very on point.
I understand the gripes about the weapons and what should have been done to make each one more unique.
I can let this one slide just because the overall look of the figures is so good.
At least the bot modes don't have hollow arms and/or legs.
Now, do I think the could've made Ramjet's weapons more missile-like?
Considering they're making money from 6 figures that are relatively the same, yeah, I think this could've happened...
But again, the bots (and the jets too) look good enough AND at legit voyager scale, that I'll gladly add these to my collection.

I've also come to realize that as much as I like the CHUG versions of most of these characters, I really think in some ways ER is just a bit better in terms of overall appearance...
ER Ironhide is a few times better than the Universe counterpart; the headsculpt, the shoulders, the forearms don't have the extra panels, and even the hands look better imo. And of course, the ER version is probably free of the permanent looking downward issue of the CHUG version.
With Prowl, minus the hollow-ish lower legs and feet, the proportions are better than the Universe version (which are a little on the lanky side) imo.
I've figured out that bot mode proportions are also a big deal to me; ER Prowl looks more animated and cartoonish, and just well-designed. I'd say the same about Ironhide; the proportions just look right.
I definitely don't regret ordering these, and am looking forward to having both next to Prime in my display.

Nexus Knight wrote:So, unrelated note, but anyone can tell me how I can order Scorponok? He's outta stock on the Pulse, and last I checked, Amazon wasn't carrying him.

Try entertainment earth, I pre-ordered mine from there about 2 weeks back. Or just try targets since they are popping up there, store or site.

Target would be your best bet, just have to be patient. Also BBTS is still taking pre-orders as well.

As someone else mentioned, I got my Doubledealer from Amazon today as well. I have him connected to Scorponoks base mode. I decided to take a couple days off. I'd love to get a Slitherfang in the next couple days so I can show off all the airlock system Transformers so far.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Although, some promotional shots show that it is clear instead, but with a face painted stark white! The test shots we saw of Thrust and Dirge have clear cockpit windows too, but again Dirge has his face painted white, which is completely wrong. We've got different differences between the CG renders, the leaked test shots, and now these promotional images of actual figures from Takara Tomy. It's entirely possible that these are again non-final production models, as happened with Earthrise Optimus Prime, who's plastic colors and paint apps just kept changing between renders, convention samples, and official promotional photography.
Who knows what the final products will actually look like at this point.

Did any of the promotional shots show him with a white face and clear cockpit? The only time we saw him with that was that leaked production sample that I'm almost positive was hand painted. The picture from Amazon has him with a gray face (slightly metallic so it might look white, but it isn't) and it's basically the same as the most recent pictures from Amazon so this is probably what we're getting.




We didn't get CG models for these so there's no telling what Hasbro's original plans were.

Nexus Knight wrote:So, unrelated note, but anyone can tell me how I can order Scorponok? He's outta stock on the Pulse, and last I checked, Amazon wasn't carrying him.

This is Amazon's listing link. They took pre-orders a few months ago at that link and I'm sure they will again soon enough. I kept it in my Amazon browsing history and I check it daily.

Emerje

Video Review is up now

horus wrote:


Video Review is up now

Fixed.

Quote me to see how it's done.

Also, NEWS IT!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

horus wrote:


Video Review is up now

Fixed.

Quote me to see how it's done.

Also, NEWS IT!

On se calme, crisse!

...well, a bunch of in-hand images of the Quint set, Dirge and Ramjet, the Astro Squad, and the Centurion Drone set surfaced on various sites, and, um, we're going to have to amend that list of all the ER numbers again, because E33 isn't a mystery, apparently:
...which means the other two missing numbers, E28 & E32, are accounted for between Bluestreak and the soft-confirmed Autobot clones, and we therefore presumably know everything outside of Wave 4 and any further exclusives at the end, further dampening my hopes of more Mercenaries.

Yep. The production cockpits are orange. Why did that happen!? That’s not G1 toy OR screen accurate. The Coneheaded Seekers have always had clear, colorless cockpits. Also, the artwork on the front and the product photos on the back both depict Ramjet and Dirge with colorless cockpit windows. So much for cartoon accuracy.

william-james88 wrote:
On se calme, crisse!

Well, I'm exited as that Japanese reviewer!

There is now a video review for the Earthrise Conehead set. This is an Amazon exclusive and can be preordered there right now and it will be released in two weeks in the US. The review comes from Wotafa and is in Japanese, but it does give us our best look yet at the deco and details, plus it lets us know what the final deco truly is. Horus shared it on our boards and e-mailed us to let us know, along with other fine Seibertronians. We thank you all for these news tips.

horus wrote:

Video Review is up now

Coneheads! Will consume mass quantities!

I can't wait for these guys to get here !!!! I hope they do Thrust right they did not make him right in the classic line .

Maybe we'll get lucky, and there will be an early running change to the Coneheads that amends the cockpits.
Or better yet, a proper release that amends the cockpits.

I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

I don't know that I'd say they look better. I don't know that I'd say I like them that color... But in the grand scheme, they're sure as shizz not a deal-breaker.

I might be tempted to snip off the strip that's covering the cockpit in bot mode for the ER seekers.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

I don't know that I'd say they look better. I don't know that I'd say I like them that color... But in the grand scheme, they're sure as shizz not a deal-breaker.

Well to each our own, I guess. I like them better because I think the white clashes too much with the dark colors of the chests, and because the OG seekers also have orange cockpits abd this way they match. Just looks better to me when they're all together. But it's just my choice, if you like white or clear cockpits, that's your choice.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

I don't know that I'd say they look better. I don't know that I'd say I like them that color... But in the grand scheme, they're sure as shizz not a deal-breaker.

Well to each our own, I guess. I like them better because I think the white clashes too much with the dark colors of the chests, and because the OG seekers also have orange cockpits abd this way they match. Just looks better to me when they're all together. But it's just my choice, if you like white or clear cockpits, that's your choice.

I too preffer the idea of all of them having similar coloured cockpits to create a uniformity among the decepticon ranks.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

I don't know that I'd say they look better. I don't know that I'd say I like them that color... But in the grand scheme, they're sure as shizz not a deal-breaker.

Well to each our own, I guess. I like them better because I think the white clashes too much with the dark colors of the chests, and because the OG seekers also have orange cockpits abd this way they match. Just looks better to me when they're all together. But it's just my choice, if you like white or clear cockpits, that's your choice.

I too preffer the idea of all of them having similar coloured cockpits to create a uniformity among the decepticon ranks.

I don't mind the Coneheads' cockpits being orange, but I think I slightly prefer them being white/clear (in addition to all the other subtle differences that Hasbro actually put in the effort to include this time, different chest, different knees, etc.) to further differentiate the Coneheads from normal Seekers, because they already feel like a different type in some ways, like maybe heavies or special forces or something.

Honestly the renders that have the smokey grey cockpits make me glad they went orange. It gives a nice pop of color, and definitely helps improve the design in my opinion.

Though, I hope that the Coneheads aren't as much of a pain to get as Skywarp is if you don't pre-order them. I might decide to throw in a pre-order, but I'm very hesitant to do so as I've got some other projects I'm working on, and God Neptune and Super Megatron are already going to be a big chunk of money. (Thank Primus I don't collect MPs )

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.

I don't know that I'd say they look better. I don't know that I'd say I like them that color... But in the grand scheme, they're sure as shizz not a deal-breaker.

Well to each our own, I guess. I like them better because I think the white clashes too much with the dark colors of the chests, and because the OG seekers also have orange cockpits abd this way they match. Just looks better to me when they're all together. But it's just my choice, if you like white or clear cockpits, that's your choice.

Sorry if my response came across as harsh...
Individually I think clear would’ve looked great. But I agree to make all 6 look more cohesive, I have no problem with them being Yellow-Orange.