New Images of Rise of the Beasts Toys Give us First Look at Optimus Primal

He is looking nice!

DAy 805 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Gotta say…
I’m really diggin’ Garry Primal’s movie look. My anticipation for this movie just jumped by like over 9,000%.

Not bad. Looking forward to a larger version. And yeah that Optimus Prime screams Bulkhead repaint.

Awsome, but I miss legion class

ape mode looks quite bad.

hoping for a better bigger mold

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

It's neat that Prime has one of his Bayverse Energon swords! Wonder if he'll use them in the movie.

Primal is looking pretty good. It's nice that they stayed true to the original version. And the tiger/cannon accessory is neat too.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

"Movie Universe Beast Hunter Optimus Prime"

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

"Movie Universe Beast Hunter Optimus Prime"

You joke, but I would not put it past Hasbro to do something like that. 2 birds with one... Prime so to speak.

Overcracker wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

"Movie Universe Beast Hunter Optimus Prime"

You joke, but I would not put it past Hasbro to do something like that. 2 birds with one... Prime so to speak.

Who said I was (completely) joking?

Optimus Primal has a nice enough design, I wasn't expecting him to be this accurate to the original, but I suppose I should've seen it coming with how close to G1 the robots in Bumblebee look. Though his gorilla mode, namely the green eyes, the mouth and the shape of the head, looks quite a lot like Lockdown. I do hope the design of the gorilla in the actual movie changes as time goes on so it looks less like this.
I was surprised to see Tigatron here, I do wonder if he'll be in the movie or if he's just a toyline -only character. I'm also curious to see if he'll have a proper robot mode or if he'll just be a Battlemaster type robot like this toy.

TulioDude wrote:He is looking nice!

DAy 805 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Hehehe, I've seen you commenting this before 1 year had even passed, and I've got to say, man... me too, me too.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

It may be possible that Bulkhead was created to reuse the engineering (and slap out another Prime using the same engineering).

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

It may be possible that Bulkhead was created to reuse the engineering (and slap out another Prime using the same engineering).

We will get a Prime from that Bulkhead, but it won't be for this movie according to the leaks

That Tigatron/crossbow would be pretty cool (and much better utilized) repainted or customized as a Catgut or Lionizer targetmaster/actionmaster weapon. Heck...even seeing it as one of the many cassette-cats such as Ravage or Stripes would be great as well.

Well, as a supporter of the franchise in general, I hope they do well. But I won't be getting any, unless I see better than what they've shown so far.

I was never a fan of the whole 'rotate the feet so the heel is the toe and the toe is the heel' thing. That's just lazy, no matter which line is using it. For this Optimus Primal, it doesn't look like they 'transform' the legs at all, except for spinning the feet around.

That Primal looks like a fun toy, I'm also betting that Tigatron is toy only at this point.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

I'm just telling you what leakers said. Legacy Bulkhead will be retooled into a non movie Optimus in a non movie line.

When you post news articles you’re really not supposed to present any bias. This William James guy is always so negative. Oh, the fans don’t like it? How do you know this? Always comparing against “Bayverse” designs. Some fans like me really love those designs. Can you try to be more inclusive of the fan base. If you have an opinion write a review…

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Yeah, big similarities and we are indeed going to get a Prime redeco of Bulkhead, though I don't think it will be for the movie, since there aren't any voyager movie toys for ROTB coming out this year. I think it's just a coincidence.

As for the Primal toy, I too find that transformation fun. It's a total cheat but it works and I think my 4 year old will have a lot of fun with it.

This is getting me pumped for the eventual studio series figures, since that is one cool looking primal design. Also, I am surprised to see Tigatron, he wasn't said to be in the film nor in the listings.

Its too coincidental that movie Prime has such a similar alt mode. I know there are no large movie figures coming out this year as far as we know, but we also don't know when that Bulkhead Reduce is supposed to come out exactly. They may try something like the "Preview" or "First Edition" figures of previous movie lines.

I'm just telling you what leakers said. Legacy Bulkhead will be retooled into a non movie Optimus in a non movie line.

O.k, Fair enough. We'll see.

Is it just me or does Primal seems to have more articulation than Prime?

Anyway, I kinda like these designs. Especially Primal; it's close enough to the original while still being its own thing and has a very Transmetal 2/technorganic vibe in beast mode. Just wish the robot mode had a bit more color, if only to better distinguish it from the gorilla.

Also, I don't really mind Tigatron being a Targetmaster. Part of what I love about Transformers is reinventing characters and concepts anyway, and there's always a chance there's a "proper" robot toy awaiting in the future (movie-wise, that is).

ZeroWolf wrote:That Primal looks like a fun toy, I'm also betting that Tigatron is toy only at this point.

Also this. Kinda like the partners in AoE and Beast Hunters Construct-Bots, I guess.

These are the best-looking movie figures I've ever seen. Primal LOOKS like Primal.

MaximalNui wrote:Is it just me or does Primal seems to have more articulation than Prime?

He does. Probably because the belong to different classes.

Primal is very likely the Power Alliance version, while Prime is maybe the Smash Changer or some other as of yet undisclosed class.

Just going to be a wet blanket here and point out that these toys would be based on preliminary designs and don't necessarily represent the movie as per the usual with early movie toys. And given that the movie was pushed back a year they could be even further off.

Still seems like a good mini Primal figure though. I hope they give it a BW style repaint later on.

Emerje

Primal is looking good, if a bit monotone.

ThunderThruster wrote:Primal is looking good, if a bit monotone.

Monochrome, yeah. But that's his beast mode deco in the film, at least his deco on the images shown to VIPs during a movie event which revealed several designs.

I wonder how Tyrannosaurus Megatron would look in this style.

TFIta369 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:He is looking nice!

DAy 805 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Hehehe, I've seen you commenting this before 1 year had even passed, and I've got to say, man... me too, me too.

A few reviewers are getting their hands on these Rise of the Beasts figures. Prime vs Prime got some too. He was invited by Hasbro to attend the private event announcing the film, so his review does also compare the figure to what was shown then. But the part that matters most is that we now have a better idea of the scale of these figures. This Optimus Primal and Tigatron figure is supposedly from the Power Alliance Weaponizer 2-Pack (F4611), which is priced at $15.99. Regardless of how simpler he may be, that price becomes quite the bargain for a kids' toy when you see that it is the size of a standard deluxe class figure. Of course, it may be that this is not the correct class and that maybe even Tigatron does not go with this toy. We'll see when they are revealed (or more likely simply released) in the Cyberverse line. This also helps us make sense of the scale of the Optimus Prime figure we saw. Also, fans were quick to point out that this Optimus has the Bayverse blades, further showing that this new era of films/merchandise is building off of the Bay movies (afterall, he is still involve) rather than being a complete reboot. So we'll still see some references to the Bay aesthetic, be it like the blades on Optimus, or Bumblebee's face.

I'm highly anticipating to see the rest of the robots!

I actually like the head design a lot. It looks like a transformer. Not a human trying to be a Transformer. That always helps.

There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...

That's just the basic gimmicky toy.

I'm looking forward the SS voyager.

I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success!

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

And the shoulders. There is almost as much difference here as with the original Primal who also kept the same arms, back and waist as the gorilla mode.

That's just Primal.

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...

I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.

william-james88 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

And the shoulders. There is almost as much difference here as with the original Primal who also kept the same arms, back and waist as the gorilla mode.

That's just Primal.

I see what you did there

SpaceEagle wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...

I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.

True - it may be fine for a kiddie toy. But it ain't enough for ME

Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success!

I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know...

I think the easiest comparison for the Primal figure is to a Cyberverse Warrior class figure. Simple figure with nearly Deluxe articulation, just with the spring loaded weapon gimmick replaced by a weapon partner gimmick at roughly the same price point.

Emerje

DeathReviews wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...

I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.

True - it may be fine for a kiddie toy. But it ain't enough for ME

Hasbro is well aware, there will be a movie Primal just for you down the line, everyone wins (especially Hasbro).

Emerje wrote:I think the easiest comparison for the Primal figure is to a Cyberverse Warrior class figure. Simple figure with nearly Deluxe articulation, just with the spring loaded weapon gimmick replaced by a weapon partner gimmick at roughly the same price point.

Emerje

Honestly, that Primal looks better than almost all the cyberverse warrior figures I've ever come across. It's really cool how he isn't compromised in any way by the gimmick.

DeathReviews wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success!

I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know...

The main point, however, is that if that were true, both parties have then run afoul of YouTube's terms and conditions, which expressly forbids Youtubers from promoting items in this way without without stating that the items were supplied by (Hasbro) for promotional purposes and/or that the video is a sponsored video/hosts sponsored content:

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"...You may include paid product placements, endorsements, sponsorships, or other content that requires disclosure to viewers in your videos. 

If you choose to include any of the above, you have to let us know by selecting the paid promotion box in your video details. See instructions below.

All paid promotions need to follow our Ad Policies and Community Guidelines. You and the brands you work with are responsible for understanding and complying with their local and legal obligations to disclose Paid Promotion in their content. Some of these obligations include when and how to disclose, and to whom to disclose..."

(Source: - https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... dorsements )

So, either YouTubers like this are either "in cahoots" with Hasbrk (thus breaking YouTube's terms and conditions) or they are receiving stolen goods.

In both cases, they are receiving goods illegitimately to create videos, giving them an unfair advantage over other Youtubers, whilst gaining illicit ad revenue.

My guess would be that he was able to attend due to other reasons, unconnected to his illegitimate videos. Perhaps Hasbro (UK/Asia) gave him the opportunity, without checking his credentials? Or, perhaps he's lying through his back teeth about his invite and they're haven't actually been any events (or that the events were real and open to anyone who knew about them/asked to attend)?

Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP

ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP

There's no argument here; he received illegitimate TFs. I do agree that, if he has been invited, it might have been due to some ignorant Hasbro staff member simply looking at his numbers, but that's only due to the fact he gets stolen TFs. What's odd is that Chefatron or Tonton, also in the same thieves' guild, weren't invited.

However, I do appreciate that Seibertron no longer links to his videos, just some screenshots. If only his name could be ommited too. It's not as if he's going to cry fowl about "stealing his property", is it? Omitting his name, or the irrelevant info that he attended a Hasbro event would also help to keep the conversation relevant to the toys.

Please consider this; if Seibertron doesn't want us mentioning him, then Seibertron shouldn't mention him. Why add fuel to the fire and do your best to keep things on topic?

Anyway, the Primal doesn't look half bad. It seems to have more arm and leg articulation than Prime does. Perhaps the lack of colour palette is due to not wanting to confuse the kiddies (AKA, ignorant parents) with two similar "Prime" colour schemes?

ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP

Thanks, I only mentioned it in the article because unlike with the chefatron toy review, this review also has the extra information of comparison between the way the toy looks and what PVP was shown at the event. It is related to the news about this toy and gives fans here more information that they did not have before. It is in no way an invitation to rehash an ethics debate which can be done in a different thread if people so wish. We are just talking about the toy here. And I will keep crediting our sources unless they ask us not to credit them. That is the bare minimum for any news site.

Even if we won't know much i'm hoping Rattrap might get a movie version figure down the line just to see him get a deluxe figure?

They did fantastic job with his core class figure in Kingdom. Although i doubt he'll get a role in the film. Giant rat joke.

But isn't core version enough? I would think a Deluxe would be too big, unless you're simply speaking about the engineering that goes into it being higher quality.