New Images of Tomy Tec's MIX Movie Starscream

While I think the plane looks neat, I see no point to this. It is a nice representation of an F-22...but it's not a Transformer.

I don't quite get companies making Transformer toys, that are not in any way shape or form, a TRANSFORMER.

If this thing had a robot mode that rivaled the detail of the plane, I'd be all over it. But for the plane alone...I could buy a model kit of an F-22 and make it as detailed as I wanted to for probably a lot less...

Awesome! Perfect for those slightly obsessed with scale (i.e. me)!

One of each, please! ^^

Random wrote:While I think the plane looks neat, I see no point to this. It is a nice representation of an F-22...but it's not a Transformer.

I don't quite get companies making Transformer toys, that are not in any way shape or form, a TRANSFORMER.

If this thing had a robot mode that rivaled the detail of the plane, I'd be all over it. But for the plane alone...I could buy a model kit of an F-22 and make it as detailed as I wanted to for probably a lot less...

because some people would actually like completely accurate representations of certain modes of characters.

transformers is a brand name.. that doesn't mean that every single product needs to transform. plus, what is it hurting.. nothing. if at least one person wants one of these, then you should get the point. and so far, there are two of us. .. i'm sure there is a bunch more.

not everyone wants to buy a model kit, buy paint, and spend hours painting it while looking at reference photos for accuracy. sorry.

i really want the tattooed version. i think it looks incredible. and i think it's really cool that the bumblebee camaro comes with it.

What a hustle. Looks like a bunch of F-22 and Camero models "fell off" the back of a truck somewhere on their way to a hobby shop and are now getting put together and painted to look like TF characters.

LAME!

TimothyR wrote:

Random wrote:While I think the plane looks neat, I see no point to this. It is a nice representation of an F-22...but it's not a Transformer.

I don't quite get companies making Transformer toys, that are not in any way shape or form, a TRANSFORMER.

If this thing had a robot mode that rivaled the detail of the plane, I'd be all over it. But for the plane alone...I could buy a model kit of an F-22 and make it as detailed as I wanted to for probably a lot less...

because some people would actually like completely accurate representations of certain modes of characters.

transformers is a brand name.. that doesn't mean that every single product needs to transform. plus, what is it hurting.. nothing. if at least one person wants one of these, then you should get the point. and so far, there are two of us. .. i'm sure there is a bunch more.

not everyone wants to buy a model kit, buy paint, and spend hours painting it while looking at reference photos for accuracy. sorry.

i really want the tattooed version. i think it looks incredible. and i think it's really cool that the bumblebee camaro comes with it.

Transformers IS a brand name. A brand name that is based on transforming robots.
Whenever Hasbro or an affiliated company releases a non-transforming toy series based on this brand, it always feels like a cheap money grab.

Yeah some small subset of TF fans might want some movie-accurate non-transforming toys, but judging by the tons of non-transforming Transformers that still clog up the shelves at my local Walmart, Toys R Us and which have started moving into the local dollar stores I am obviously not the only one who feels this way.

wow, 1/144 is a pretty small scale for a jet that sized. 1/60 woud have bee way more suitable.

Wow! Given the diminutive size of these things and the high price of said smallness, I wasn't going to bother. But these things have got a greater level of detail than most dedicated aircraft model companies provide. Colour me interested.

whacko wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

Random wrote:While I think the plane looks neat, I see no point to this. It is a nice representation of an F-22...but it's not a Transformer.

I don't quite get companies making Transformer toys, that are not in any way shape or form, a TRANSFORMER.

If this thing had a robot mode that rivaled the detail of the plane, I'd be all over it. But for the plane alone...I could buy a model kit of an F-22 and make it as detailed as I wanted to for probably a lot less...

because some people would actually like completely accurate representations of certain modes of characters.

transformers is a brand name.. that doesn't mean that every single product needs to transform. plus, what is it hurting.. nothing. if at least one person wants one of these, then you should get the point. and so far, there are two of us. .. i'm sure there is a bunch more.

not everyone wants to buy a model kit, buy paint, and spend hours painting it while looking at reference photos for accuracy. sorry.

i really want the tattooed version. i think it looks incredible. and i think it's really cool that the bumblebee camaro comes with it.

Transformers IS a brand name. A brand name that is based on transforming robots.
Whenever Hasbro or an affiliated company releases a non-transforming toy series based on this brand, it always feels like a cheap money grab.

Yeah some small subset of TF fans might want some movie-accurate non-transforming toys, but judging by the tons of non-transforming Transformers that still clog up the shelves at my local Walmart, Toys R Us and which have started moving into the local dollar stores I am obviously not the only one who feels this way.

you must realize that this isn't some garbage hasbro revving robot.. or whatever the hell they're called for little kids. these are high quality model kits. for collectors. it's a little ridiculous to even compare these things with what we see in our retail stores.

a small subset? is that why it's practically impossible to find dmk prime for retail price? .. they're pretty much sold out in most places.

this starscream isn't just some crappy hotwheels style toy.

there is a market for these things. dmk prime was a huge hit. so you should understand the point of these at this point in the discussion. there's a point because people want them. they're nice collectible items.

This looks FANTASTIC. .. However .. I feel indifferent due to leader SS's alt mode looks AMAZING as well .. pass for me .. but props to whoever designed it

Yikes, those are beautiful! Haters hate, but I would love these myself. Couldn't get the link from the Tomy Tec site to work for me, is there a price?

TimothyR, you Sir, are; right, understanding, not without common sense and I applaud you!

It's what I've been saying for a while now; not every Transformer (brand) product has to transform (hence, Hasbro-wise; Robot Replicas, RPMs/Speed Stars, Stealth Force (to a degree), etc)

Yeah, I may just be repeating now...!

I've always wanted an F-22 Raptor on my desktop, but never had the skills to build a model kit of it. This would be perfect!

I already have LC Starscream, but the alt mode isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Not complaining here, just that I'd prefer him in bot mode.

That said, the 1/144 scale is kind of a deal breaker. Can anyone provide an estimate of the jet's size, say, relative to an ROTF voyager Starscream or DOTM deluxe SS fig?

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I've always wanted an F-22 Raptor on my desktop, but never had the skills to build a model kit of it. This would be perfect!

I already have LC Starscream, but the alt mode isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Not complaining here, just that I'd prefer him in bot mode.

That said, the 1/144 scale is kind of a deal breaker. Can anyone provide an estimate of the jet's size, say, relative to an ROTF voyager Starscream or DOTM deluxe SS fig?

Well, a real F-22 is 18.9m in length and the ROTF Voyager is 21cm long in vehicle mode, giving *that* a scale of exactly 1:90. Hope this helps! ^^

EDIT: Just did more maths (yay!) and worked out that this new Starscream is 13.1cm long! *That* amount of detail on a Raptor that small...! O.o

No sense is trying to convince the haters. They just can't fathom the desire of an item that doesn't transform. It's not like it'll see an american release, so it won't be taking up any shelf space to bother them.

Swiftknife24 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I've always wanted an F-22 Raptor on my desktop, but never had the skills to build a model kit of it. This would be perfect!

I already have LC Starscream, but the alt mode isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Not complaining here, just that I'd prefer him in bot mode.

That said, the 1/144 scale is kind of a deal breaker. Can anyone provide an estimate of the jet's size, say, relative to an ROTF voyager Starscream or DOTM deluxe SS fig?

Well, a real F-22 is 18.9m in length and the ROTF Voyager is 21cm long in vehicle mode, giving *that* a scale of exactly 1:90. Hope this helps! ^^

EDIT: Just did more maths (yay!) and worked out that this new Starscream is 13.1cm long! *That* amount of detail on a Raptor that small...! O.o

Thanks, Swiftknife! Not exactly a large figure, but it should fit nicely on my desk.

TF products in scale?! Whatever next?!

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I've always wanted an F-22 Raptor on my desktop, but never had the skills to build a model kit of it. This would be perfect!

I already have LC Starscream, but the alt mode isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Not complaining here, just that I'd prefer him in bot mode.

That said, the 1/144 scale is kind of a deal breaker. Can anyone provide an estimate of the jet's size, say, relative to an ROTF voyager Starscream or DOTM deluxe SS fig?

Well, a real F-22 is 18.9m in length and the ROTF Voyager is 21cm long in vehicle mode, giving *that* a scale of exactly 1:90. Hope this helps! ^^

EDIT: Just did more maths (yay!) and worked out that this new Starscream is 13.1cm long! *That* amount of detail on a Raptor that small...! O.o

Thanks, Swiftknife! Not exactly a large figure, but it should fit nicely on my desk.

You're welcome! ^^ I regularly calculate the figure scales based on the vehicles; it's a hobby-habit!