New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain

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From the official Takara Tomy Transformers Twitter account, we have two new images of figures from their Legends line. One is LG40 Astrotrain, featuring a different, darker colour palette than his Hasbro Titans Return counterpart, but still triple-changing and Titan Mastering. The other is LG35, Super Ginrai, in comparison with the Hasbro Powermaster Prime Leader toy. You can check both images mirrored below!

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Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846583)
Posted by Solrac333 on December 11th, 2016 @ 10:04am CST

Seriously, I don't get why Hasbro can just paint the figures like that.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846585)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 11th, 2016 @ 10:43am CST

Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846592)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 11th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CST

Cyberpath wrote:Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

Huh, there are more sculpting differences than I originally thought:

- Titan Master face
- Chest plate
- Lower arms + panels
- Hip pieces
- Feet

That said, I don't like face plates over face plates :lol:

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846595)
Posted by Kurona on December 11th, 2016 @ 1:00pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

Huh, there are more sculpting differences than I originally thought:

- Titan Master face
- Chest plate
- Lower arms + panels
- Hip pieces
- Feet

That said, I don't like face plates over face plates

Also the cab and guns

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846596)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 11th, 2016 @ 1:12pm CST

Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns

The cab too? :shock:

May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left :lol:

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846599)
Posted by Overcracker on December 11th, 2016 @ 1:35pm CST

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.

I consider that a pretty good price.

Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846600)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 11th, 2016 @ 1:45pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846603)
Posted by Supreme Convoy on December 11th, 2016 @ 2:49pm CST

Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

Oh wow. I was considering buying the Hasbro version but now that I see the Takara one, I'll probably be getting that one since it's closer to the one I had as a kid.

And I've always wanted Godbomber. So I guess the new Godbomber only works with Ginrai.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846644)
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2016 @ 10:10pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:Also the cab and guns

The cab too? May as well consider this version an all new mold, considering there's hardly any part of Ultra Magnus left

Not the whole cab, just the front "doors" that swing open to expose the cockpit giving it a new front end. Though it is still a different cab from Ultra Magnus.

Emerje

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846653)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 11th, 2016 @ 10:37pm CST

that legends Astrotrain train mode looks so much better with that paint. wow :shock:

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846668)
Posted by triKlops on December 11th, 2016 @ 11:21pm CST

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:that legends Astrotrain train mode looks so much better with that paint. wow

Totally agree; I will be keeping an eye on Amazon.jp for him if his price takes a dip.
MSRP I can't justify, as I have the Hasbro version, but if a deal pops up, I could bite.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846692)
Posted by X3ROhour on December 12th, 2016 @ 6:43am CST

Cyberpath wrote:Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

y?
why?
why does the Tak version
have to b the superior
and so much more
expensive
version?

Y?!

:ic$:

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846693)
Posted by X3ROhour on December 12th, 2016 @ 6:44am CST

Overcracker wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.

I consider that a pretty good price.

Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.

what?
where?

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846696)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 12th, 2016 @ 7:15am CST

Cyberpath wrote:Cool Legends fanart by @tajima_0109 --

Amazin!

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846713)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 12th, 2016 @ 8:46am CST

Z3ROhour wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Comparison shot from Takara --

Hasbro's Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime and Takara's Legends LG35 Ginrai --

y?
why?
why does the Tak version
have to b the superior
and so much more
expensive
version?

Y?!

Why is it expensive? Because they basically created a new figure out of the mold and painted the crap out of it (and the yen was strong when the online retailers put their orders in for him)

On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846730)
Posted by william-james88 on December 12th, 2016 @ 9:38am CST

Hellscream9999 wrote:On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...

I am not sure they could afford that. They could potentially be losing preorders to others who do have it up earlier and all that for just the chance that it might be cheaper later.

What they should do instead is stock on yen when its low and then use it to buy these toys later but they probably dont have enough cash lieing around to do that either. In the end, I think the system they have in place is fine since its predictable and in the end, fans go to these import sites because they dont want to have to worry about importing it themselves so their core customers wouldnt try to import it themselves anyway.

Anyways, looking at the pic of the two of them side by side, I like what Hasbro did, I just wish they had a better grey plastic. Takara's legs are just so off in every which way.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846739)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 12th, 2016 @ 10:20am CST

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:On a related note, I know we like our pre-orders nice and early, but I wonder if it would be better for retailers to hold off on ordering figures like this when the Yen is strong, and waited, a gamble I know, but, just a thought. Seems like the really high prices of some of these figures is driving a lot of people to import sites right now...

I am not sure they could afford that. They could potentially be losing preorders to others who do have it up earlier and all that for just the chance that it might be cheaper later.

What they should do instead is stock on yen when its low and then use it to buy these toys later but they probably dont have enough cash lieing around to do that either. In the end, I think the system they have in place is fine since its predictable and in the end, fans go to these import sites because they dont want to have to worry about importing it themselves so their core customers wouldnt try to import it themselves anyway.

Anyways, looking at the pic of the two of them side by side, I like what Hasbro did, I just wish they had a better grey plastic. Takara's legs are just so off in every which way.

That's what I figured; and I too like the hasbro version, it just looks properly proportional, I don't mind the color, but hope that it's a better quality plastic than magnus, but, I doubt it >:oP

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846756)
Posted by nycPrime on December 12th, 2016 @ 11:20am CST

Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846759)
Posted by Kurona on December 12th, 2016 @ 11:35am CST

nycPrime wrote:Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Rumours say they are.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846762)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 12th, 2016 @ 11:38am CST

Kurona wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Rumours say they are.

Though how that would work with TR Powermaster Prime is unknown...

...unless the rumored boxset that godbomber comes in has the Ginrai tooling

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846766)
Posted by nycPrime on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:00pm CST

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Rumours say they are.

Though how that would work with TR Powermaster Prime is unknown...

...unless the rumored boxset that godbomber comes in has the Ginrai tooling

So either a box set with God bomber and ginrai? Or it could just be a standalone figure later down the TR line?

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846774)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:30pm CST

nycPrime wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Rumours say they are.

Though how that would work with TR Powermaster Prime is unknown...

...unless the rumored boxset that godbomber comes in has the Ginrai tooling

So either a box set with God bomber and ginrai? Or it could just be a standalone figure later down the TR line?

According to the list with rumored upcoming releases, these are the ones in a boxset:

- Fastlane
- Cloudraker
- Nautica
- Apex Bomber
- Quickswitch
- Pounce
- Wingspan
- Shockwave
- Tidal Wave

Two box sets if I may add. The name "Magnus Prime" has also been dropped, but details about it are unknown at this time. Also, names are subject to change.

And no, we don't know how Apex Bomber will connect, if it's even possible. A standard release is unlikely, as Godbomber looks like he's between price points in terms of overall size.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846775)
Posted by Kurona on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:31pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
nycPrime wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
nycPrime wrote:Is Hasbro doing a God bomber? If not, I may have to start searching for Ginrai when he's released.

Rumours say they are.

Though how that would work with TR Powermaster Prime is unknown...

...unless the rumored boxset that godbomber comes in has the Ginrai tooling

So either a box set with God bomber and ginrai? Or it could just be a standalone figure later down the TR line?

According to the list with rumored upcoming releases, these are the ones in a boxset:

- Fastlane
- Cloudraker
- Nautica
- Apex Bomber
- Quickswitch
- Pounce
- Wingspan
- Shockwave
- Tidal Wave

Two box sets if I may add. The name "Magnus Prime" has also been dropped, but details about it are unknown at this time. Also, names are subject to change.

Wait, what? Where did Shockwave come from?

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846776)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:34pm CST

Kurona wrote:Wait, what? Where did Shockwave come from?

Tidal Wave was listed twice, but with a different Chinese name each time. May as well use Armada Tidal Wave's Japanese name Shockwave to differentiate between the two.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846777)
Posted by Kurona on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:Wait, what? Where did Shockwave come from?

Tidal Wave was listed twice, but with a different Chinese name each time. May as well use Armada Tidal Wave's Japanese name Shockwave to differentiate between the two.

Might want to mention that when you bring it up, considering the much more significant and well-known usage of the name Shockwave. I thought we were actually finally gonna get a Voyager G1-esque Shockwave from this line...

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846779)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:42pm CST

There's also the rumor that Hasbro's Godbomber will be named "Iron Apex" and a Deluxe.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846781)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CST

Kurona wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Kurona wrote:Wait, what? Where did Shockwave come from?

Tidal Wave was listed twice, but with a different Chinese name each time. May as well use Armada Tidal Wave's Japanese name Shockwave to differentiate between the two.

Might want to mention that when you bring it up, considering the much more significant and well-known usage of the name Shockwave. I thought we were actually finally gonna get a Voyager G1-esque Shockwave from this line...

True, true... In the mean time I'll try to decipher the names again... And when will people realise you can't copy text from images! :BANG_HEAD:

Back to Godbomber

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846782)
Posted by Overcracker on December 12th, 2016 @ 12:51pm CST

Z3ROhour wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Ugh I would love that Legends Prime but it won't be cheap at all and it's been an expensive month already.

That depends on what you considered cheap. I pre-ordered him for $54 dollars, which is less than $10 bucks more than the msrp for Powermaster Prime.

I consider that a pretty good price.

Though at this point, it probably will be harder to find at that price.

what?
where?

Anime-Export had him at that price:

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Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846786)
Posted by Hero Alpha on December 12th, 2016 @ 1:08pm CST

Takara Astrotrain looks really sweet. Also God Ginrai looks so, so much better than Hasbro's Optimus. It is mainly that horrible brown gray that Hasbro uses, hate it. Takara uses that nice, almost metallic gray and the plastic seems like it feels better, heavier.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846798)
Posted by DeathReviews on December 12th, 2016 @ 2:12pm CST

Nope. The 'train' mode doesn't look any better with Takara colors....

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846847)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 12th, 2016 @ 6:25pm CST

DeathReviews wrote:Nope. The 'train' mode doesn't look any better with Takara colors....

Squint and it will :lol:

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846870)
Posted by Emerje on December 12th, 2016 @ 7:33pm CST

DeathReviews wrote:Nope. The 'train' mode doesn't look any better with Takara colors....

It's hard to improve perfection, I'm sure.

Emerje

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846905)
Posted by Kurona on December 12th, 2016 @ 10:34pm CST

Emerje wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Nope. The 'train' mode doesn't look any better with Takara colors....

It's hard to improve perfection, I'm sure.

Emerje

Though you could certainly improve perfection by painting the goddamn wheels

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846956)
Posted by Relic0037 on December 13th, 2016 @ 10:09am CST

This is why I tend to pass on Hasbro figures these days & go for the Takara releases.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1846967)
Posted by Hero Alpha on December 13th, 2016 @ 10:54am CST

Relic0037 wrote:This is why I tend to pass on Hasbro figures these days & go for the Takara releases.

After getting :TAKARATOMY:

Chromedome, Skids, Arcee, BH GO! Soundwave and Wheelie recently I have just about to go mostly Takara versions from now on. The colours are almost always better/cartoon accurate and a big plus, the plastic seems better. Its got a more metallic, dense, heavy type feel that just makes for a better figure.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847182)
Posted by Relic0037 on December 14th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CST

Moonshot wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:This is why I tend to pass on Hasbro figures these days & go for the Takara releases.

After getting Chromedome, Skids, Arcee, BH GO! Soundwave and Wheelie recently I have just about to go mostly Takara versions from now on. The colours are almost always better/cartoon accurate and a big plus, the plastic seems better. Its got a more metallic, dense, heavy type feel that just makes for a better figure.

Seems like the joints on Takara products are tighter & suffer less from mold degradation too. I say this after getting Hasbro's Liokaiser recently. Everything feels loose on Guyhawk, H(F)ellbat, Kill(Iron)Bison, & Drillhorn.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847208)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 14th, 2016 @ 4:15pm CST

Moonshot wrote:Takara Astrotrain looks really sweet. Also God Ginrai looks so, so much better than Hasbro's Optimus. It is mainly that horrible brown gray that Hasbro uses, hate it. Takara uses that nice, almost metallic gray and the plastic seems like it feels better, heavier.

About the Hb brownish gray, the more it ages the more sucky it looks. Just use the original PMOP as an example, the gray has degraded to the point it like turd brown.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847294)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 15th, 2016 @ 6:54am CST

The Transformers Generations 2017 book comes with posters featuring the Legends package art, including ones from upcoming releases like Astrotrain, Soundwave, Brainstorm and Ginrai..

Source(?) -- http://weibo.com/u/1409880985

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847295)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 15th, 2016 @ 7:27am CST

Cyberpath wrote:The Transformers Generations 2017 book comes with posters featuring the Legends package art, including ones from upcoming releases like Astrotrain, Soundwave, Brainstorm and Ginrai..

Source(?) -- http://weibo.com/u/1409880985

I like!

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847299)
Posted by Big Grim on December 15th, 2016 @ 8:18am CST

There's some freakin' gorgeous art there.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847315)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 15th, 2016 @ 10:58am CST

Notice that a select few of them like Gelshark/Sky-Byte and Skids are mere reuses (recolors?) of the Hasbro box art, but which also goes to show how many of those that aren't are new art pieces.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847400)
Posted by Emerje on December 15th, 2016 @ 9:59pm CST

Can't say I'm a big fan of Super Ginrai's art, that's a really awkward pose.

Emerje

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847461)
Posted by Va'al on December 16th, 2016 @ 8:21am CST

Via the official Takara Tomy Transformers Twitter account, we have a look at the packaging for the upcoming Legends LG31 Super Ginrai figure, the Japanese retooled release of the Titans Return leader class Powermaster Optimus Prime, which will combine with LG42 Godbomber. Check it out below!

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847469)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 16th, 2016 @ 8:56am CST

More Ginrai stuff, from the Transformers Generations book --

(Source -- http://weibo.com/flykinger)

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847471)
Posted by kurthy on December 16th, 2016 @ 9:01am CST

Now I just need to figure out who will be the third pilot.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847472)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 16th, 2016 @ 9:05am CST

kurthy wrote:Now I just need to figure out who will be the third pilot.

Goshooter, of course. He was one of three who drove Godbomber in the cartoon, after all.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847492)
Posted by Kurona on December 16th, 2016 @ 10:49am CST

Jeeeezus Godbomber is huge!

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847495)
Posted by Cobotron on December 16th, 2016 @ 10:58am CST

Kurona wrote:Jeeeezus Godbomber is huge!

Ya! Wasn't expecting that.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847496)
Posted by Relic0037 on December 16th, 2016 @ 10:59am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
kurthy wrote:Now I just need to figure out who will be the third pilot.
Goshooter, of course. He was one of three who drove Godbomber in the cartoon, after all.

In that case :TAKARATOMY:

need to make Minerva & Cab figures as well.

Re: New Images Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai and LG40 Astrotrain (1847497)
Posted by Overcracker on December 16th, 2016 @ 11:07am CST

Looks awesome combined.

Can't wait to get Jinrai. Sad that God Bomber is not out until May. But gives me time to save up to pay for the Pre-order then.

Anyway, anybody know what the magazine is saying about Hasbro's inferior version there at the bottom left?:

I'm very curious to know.

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