New Production Shot of MP-52 Starscream Ver 2.0 with Original G1 Starscream

There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

Lore Keeper wrote:There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

I think it's the gray. It's a tad too dark.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

I think it's the gray. It's a tad too dark.

I literally just thought the same thing!!
Really should’ve been a little lighter... His head & face should contrast with that color more.

Sabrblade wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

I think it's the gray. It's a tad too dark.

May be a camera/monitor thing.
Personally, I think this may be THE MP Starscream MP-11 should have been since the very start. Not counting Meteor that I skipped because IMO, 3P don't count.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

I think it's the gray. It's a tad too dark.

May be a camera/monitor thing.
Personally, I think this may be THE MP Starscream MP-11 should have been since the very start. Not counting Meteor that I skipped because IMO, 3P don't count.

I prefer the more realistic asthetic of MP-11 over the puffy cartoon look, personally. If they could make an MP with that asthetic, but this engineering, I'd consider it perfect.

Lore Keeper wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:There's no debate that the MP is an engineering improvement, but there's just something off about it to me. I find it kind of... ugly, to be honest.

I think it's the gray. It's a tad too dark.

May be a camera/monitor thing.
Personally, I think this may be THE MP Starscream MP-11 should have been since the very start. Not counting Meteor that I skipped because IMO, 3P don't count.

I prefer the more realistic aesthetic of MP-11 over the puffy cartoon look, personally. If they could make an MP with that aesthetic, but this engineering, I'd consider it perfect.

My thoughts exactly. MP-11 was almost perfection, with a few small nitpicks. I don't see how this surpasses it. Like you saud, it's kinda ugly, but for me it's not the gray or light blue. It's more the body itself in robot mode.

Rodimus Prime wrote:My thoughts exactly. MP-11 was almost perfection, with a few small nitpicks. I don't see how this surpasses it. Like you saud, it's kinda ugly, but for me it's not the gray or light blue. It's more the body itself in robot mode.

I agree. The new one seems too cartoonish and his Seeker boobs look off (the inner hole should be deeper or something, not sure what's off about it). I think I'm also just generally annoyed that we are going to cycle through Masterpiece Seekers again for the 3rd time when there are so many other characters that I'd rather have, especially when I'm very happy with MP-11 Starscream.

Maybe you guys got the Hasbro version of MP-11 at a good price.
For the 300+$CAN I paid, I got scammed with what felt like a regular 60$ leader with his damn loose chest.

Plus this new one being "too cartoony" make it different enough to be worth it IMO.
Let's hope there's no QC or design flaws like for Hound and New-New Optimus.

Seibertron wrote:I'm also just generally annoyed that we are going to cycle through Masterpiece Seekers again for the 3rd time when there are so many other characters that I'd rather have, especially when I'm very happy with MP-11 Starscream.

Same here. I've been waiting for MP Blaster ever since we got Soundwave. It's not like the engineering is that different.

Anyway, back on topic, obviously they're going for the same result they did with MP-44. Though IMO 44 is an improvement over MP-10. But I think in this case it's too much of a good thing. It's like when you put too much icing on a cake.

I really liked the overall look of the original Starscream MP, the one that was like steel blue. I loved the more "realistic" look of it. I'm not a big fan of the more cartoony look of this one. I agree the engineering is pretty fantastic though.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I really liked the overall look of the original Starscream MP, the one that was like steel blue. I loved the more "realistic" look of it. I'm not a big fan of the more cartoony look of this one. I agree the engineering is pretty fantastic though.

I too, ADORE my original MP-03. But I think of him as "Alternate Universe" Starscream. For a more "toon accurate" Screamers MP-11 should have done the job, but I felt betrayed. This newer MP is what will finally satisfy my Toon Screamers need.

Thanks to Burn, AllNewSuperRobot and Cyberpath, we have several online internation listings for the upcoming new Masterpiece Starscream:

For UK you have In Demand Toys and Kapow:

£219.99 ID Toys

£214.95 Kapow Toys

Of Note, ID Toys gives the release date as 'June 2021', Kapow 'July 2021'

Amazon Japan for most people in the world wanting the best deal

19,419 yen ($185 USD) before shipping/fees


And for Australia, here is what our resident Australian found:

Burn wrote:
EB Games pre-order

For the low low price of $50 ... you can place a deposit and pre-order him, then come 30 June 2021 you can take him for an extra $459!

So, Will, did you preordered him, or are you skipping?

Amazon Japan is ¥21,361, not 19419.

hausjam wrote:Amazon Japan is ¥21,361, not 19419.

Also up on Anime-Export for a similar price.
http://www.anime-export.com/product/49558


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hausjam wrote:Amazon Japan is ¥21,361, not 19419.

Either you got the wrong link, or the price is already increasing due to high demand with the diminishing quantity.

I think ¥21,361 is for people living in Japan.

Cyberpath wrote:I think ¥21,361 is for people living in Japan.

I am in the US.

I preordered last week at this price. That is the price it has been all along.

If there is some secret club link to getting that price, please let me know.

hausjam wrote:

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Mine shows this price as well

Actually, My order shows the price as ￥ 20,633 with ￥ 3,103. Shipping. Still, that's a $12 difference.

hausjam wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I think ¥21,361 is for people living in Japan.

I am in the US.

I preordered last week at this price. That is the price it has been all along.

If there is some secret club link to getting that price, please let me know.

You ordered from the wrong Amazon seller.
I preordered at the right price but look like the price is already increasing. So that 19k yen price didn't last.

Glad I didn't missed my chance.

I ordered from アマゾンジャパン合同会社 which is Amazon Japan LLC. Who was I supposed to order from?

hausjam wrote:I ordered from アマゾンジャパン合同会社 which is Amazon Japan LLC. Who was I supposed to order from?

Sold by: Amazon.jp .
The one you got is from a 3P seller using the Amazon site.

The price you got may not be the best, but you could have ordered from E.B. Games Australia.....

The price that shows up on the main page is ¥21,361 but when you pre-order it outside of Japan it goes down to ¥19,419 (before shipping + estimated fees of your own country.) Isn't this the same for everyone?

Go to "Return & Orders" and take a look.



I doubt Amazon will raise the price. If anything it usually goes down even more (though not by a lot.)

The price that shows up on the main page is ¥21,361 but when you pre-order it outside of Japan it goes down to ¥19,419 (before shipping + estimated fees of your own country.) Isn't this the same for everyone?

Go to "Return & Orders" and take a look.



I doubt Amazon will raise the price. If anything it usually goes down even more (though not by a lot.)

That's odd.
Worth the double post tho.

Oh.
I see that you must be logged in for the real price to show up.

hausjam wrote:Amazon Japan is ¥21,361, not 19419.

You are including taxes for Japanese citizens.

william-james88 wrote:

hausjam wrote:Amazon Japan is ¥21,361, not 19419.

You are including taxes for Japanese citizens.

Oh yeah, by law, the taxes when buying something in Japan MUST be included in the price displayed. One of the first foreign thing that baffle the Japanese tourist when going abroad is to find the things they pay for always have the "surprise total" when taxes are added after the fact. They really hate that.

And seriously, I'd love it if in Canada, they'd adopt such a law. This would make buying things much easier.
Also, if Quebec's tax would stop TAXING the Federal tax, that would be awesome. Taxing a tax. Only in Quebec.

I ordered from Amazonjp, and the total cost was $213, unless it decreases somehow before June.
But I'm still really okay with that price.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I ordered from Amazonjp, and the total cost was $213, unless it decreases somehow before June.
But I'm still really okay with that price.

Wow. Your taxes are quite low. That's almost 40$CAN cheaper than what I will pay.

I find comfort in the fact that by paying the taxes from the start, I won't be charged 10$CAN more in "handling fees" by customs.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I ordered from Amazonjp, and the total cost was $213, unless it decreases somehow before June.
But I'm still really okay with that price.

Wow. Your taxes are quite low. That's almost 40$CAN cheaper than what I will pay.

I find comfort in the fact that by paying the taxes from the start, I won't be charged 10$CAN more in "handling fees" by customs.

Yeah, I definitely am not complaining... I'm a bit relieved, because as I said before, I've been waiting for this figure (although obviously I had no idea it would ever happen... Even with the new versions of Prime and Megatron. I thought, "Yeah, but it's Optimus & Megatron... This won't happen for any other character").

Also, yeah good for you... Man, any break in costs we can get for one of these toys is awesome.

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, Will, did you preordered him, or are you skipping?

I do want this figure, but I also stopped collecting non Beast Wars MPs. So I did not order this one.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, Will, did you preordered him, or are you skipping?

I do want this figure, but I also stopped collecting non Beast Wars MPs. So I did not order this one.

For the price, one must make choices. That's why this Screamers fanboy choose him over SS69 Devastator.

Too smooth, too bland and too pricey IMHO.

From: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 3100097539

The tailfins hide in the bot's wings!
Genius!

Cyberpath wrote:




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He looks great. I hope fun and durable, too.

First image seems a little washed out. Here we go.

Hum......


Wrong thread.

People are already getting him. Amazon.JP still hasn't shipped mine though. Admittedly, the WfC trilogy & SS86 is more fun than MP at the moment.

I'm looking forward to that MP.
I certainly hope the quality will be high without problematic parts that snap if you look at them wrong.

Amazon Japan charged me for mine. I should have it on July 7th.

InDemand charged me this week. I know a certain SS fan who is going to be very excited.
I do hope for some announcements of MP's for me, before the end of the year though

Not only Amazon.jp charged me for my MP-52, but it's already being shipped via DHL.
So if everything goes well, I should have it by this Friday despite Canada Day.

As soon that I receive MP-52, I'll make an extensive pictures review and news it.

Look forward to it!

Greetings Seibertronians!

Today is a great day because I already got the highly anticipated MP-52 Starscream! This is the 3rd time the Seeker has been made into a Masterpiece. The first time, MP-03 had way too much Macross influence. It resulted in a magnificent robot, but the cartoon accuracy was basically zero. Then years later, they remolded it into MP-11. A much more cartoon accurate Starscream with coronation gear. However, some faults of the ancient mold remained and what's worse, an unforgivable drop in quality.

And then today, finally, the most cartoon accurate Starscream ever, MP-52, is here in a brand new and original mold!

Without further ado, let's unbox this bad boy!









At the bottom of the box, the main pieces of the stand.



Starscream come packed in jet mode, with all of it's accessories in full display.



Unlike MP-11, the null-rays are detachable and count as accessories. Of course there's the obligatory faces, blast effects, and gun Megatron. Let's not forget the tidbits that were used in ONE episode, meaning the drill, claw, and rock.



Right from the start I'm blown away. The null-rays actually TRANSFORM into the jet's missiles! There's also two display options. For a more streamlined look, the missiles are separated from the side of the jet and simply peg under the wings. The other is to attach them on the arms as it was with MP-11.





From the top, the jet is very clean and perfect.



Here's the side with his landing gears out. The jet here is wrong. So wrong... from a "true" jet perspective. In fact, that silhouette is 100% cartoon accurate! They could have just left the bot to "hang underside", but the designers went the extra mile to give it that very specific look. Impressive!









Secret weapon of the nosecone as it was for the previous versions:



Opening cockpit:



The stand is not the best, but it does the job:
(Also, obligatory card.)





There's a pair of blast effects specifically designed for the jet in flight:



If you want to plug in gun Megatron under the jet, better be prepared to play with Jet Starscream by going whoosh! and zoom! around the room because Gun Megs plug in where the stand must peg.



Here's MP-52 compared to MP-03G. No comparison with MP-11 because I don't want to transform that damn thing.





MP-03 really have the PERFECT jet mode. No contest. But ironically not cartoon accurate.







Transformation is much more straightforward than I expected. The instructions are clear enough and I was rarely stumped.

So we begin with the "gerwalk" or more accurately, "starting to transform" mode. I did not expected that mode to be official. There's even hinges and joints designed specifically for this mode! The flight stand is mandatory once you are done:







When transforming, there's a secret weapon revealed. Powered by solar panels. For when Starscream is in orbit?



When the transformation is done, you end up with the most cartoon accurate Starscream ever! As if he popped right out of the screen! The transformation was no harder than MP-03 or MP-11. Plus at no point was I afraid of breaking something.



However, that Starscream have a serious flaw appart the lack of a waist joint due to transformation. He have very hollow and light legs and he's VERY top heavy. The knees are too weak to support all that weight. This limit poseability by a large margin.

Still, he's incredibly beautiful.



Considering that a great deal of the jet (if not all) goes to the back, the backpack is insanely compressed.







Compared to the MP-03 original, the differences are as night and day.



Guess we will compare with MP-11 too...





MP-03 is a kibble explosion compared to the newest MP-52:



MP-11 was barely an improvement.





Friendly reminder why MP-11 was such a disappointment:
(And the thing cost the same price as MP-52 at the time!)



Compared to MP-11, MP-52 feel like a QUALITY and PREMIUM toy. He also stay SOLID in hand.

He also have a perfect head sculpt:



Spare faces:



The one-shot-deal accessories. Not too shabby and they are small enough to not be a significant factor in the overall price.





Starscream can hold his null-rays in his hands because why not? However, it's a challenge for him to hold them because it's the usual bad slot design.



Same deal with gun Megs:


"All right, I'll shoot you over-glorified Targetmaster."
What?
"Nothing."

FIRE IN THE HOLE!



The stand is pretty much useless in bot mode. It can only plug in on the back so flight poses a impossible. At least this will make sure Starscream's weak knees won't betray you.





STARSCREAM WILL RULE THE DECEPTICON!
MUAHAHAHAHA!



Oh yeah, breasts missiles!



Overall, this MP-52 Starscream is the best MP seeker ever and truly worthy of being called the true successor of MP-03. I still adore MP-03 for what it is, but MP-52 truly deserves the title:
MASTERPIECE.

Truly glorious:¸


If you wonder where MP-11 went, he got demoted to the "random" Starscreams shelf.


So, what do you guys think of this new seeker mold? Have you already secured yours? Are you tempted to get one? Will you catch-em-all the obvious repaints?

Let us know what you think down below!

Nice review, Kan! I’m very stoked to get mine! Should arrive any day now.

Did you try the coronation gear from MP-11 on 52 yet? I know the cape and pauldrons are the same, but I wonder if the crown will also fit.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Nice review, Kan! I’m very stoked to get mine! Should arrive any day now.

Did you try the coronation gear from MP-11 on 52 yet? I know the cape and pauldrons are the same, but I wonder if the crown will also fit.

MP-11's coronation gear are 100% incompatible with MP-52. Nothing connect and the heads are not the same shape.

So if you want a Coronation Gear for MP-52, better hunt the official, severely mod the previous one, or wait for an unofficial set.

Mine should be coming tomorrow. I'm hoping to have a video review up by Saturday. While I have been vocal about my dislike of the 2.0 masterpiece figures, and the "toon perfect" route they have been going, I have been very excited for this one. Not that it being Starescream has anything to do with it. Nope. dunno why anyone would think that...

Mine was delivered this afternoon, but because I initially wasn’t sure when it would show up (even the last notification said this Friday) and that I may still be in Hawaii, I had it delivered to my parents place…
So tomorrow I’ll be making a 40 min drive to pick him up!!

Thanks for sharing those photos, Kanrabat.
Very much looking forward to having this guy…
I knew I was never going to go anywhere close to all-in with MP’s,
So having Megatron, Soundwave, Shockwave, & now Starscream together is going to be pretty sweet, & definitely a highlight of my small-ish collection.
I think the only way I’d re-open the MP door would be for Blitzwing, Astrotrain, and/or the Insecticons…
And even then I’d have to absolutely love how they look.

Btw, mine was ordered through Amazon Japan…
A big thanks to you, Kanrabat—
Pretty sure it was you who recommended trying them. And it seems to have worked out!
And for $213, too!!

I’m leaving town again soon, but I may try and share a few pics before.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Btw, mine was ordered through Amazon Japan…
A big thanks to you, Kanrabat—
Pretty sure it was you who recommended trying them. And it seems to have worked out!
And for $213, too!!

Everyone who got their MP-52 as for now ALL came from Amazon Japan. Not only it's the place for the BEST prices for Masterpieces, but the shipping is dirt cheap and insanely fast. Hell, I got my first shipping notice YESTERDAY and I got it in my hands TODAY.

From JAPAN to CANADA.

Are they using teleporters or something?
(Glad to be of service BTW!)


Anyway, looking forward everybody to receive theirs, unbox them, play with them, and share their impressions here!