New Transformers Studio Series 86 Leak - Leader Class Grimlock, Deluxe Class Blurr and Jazz

Looking forward the official pictures.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So, I just had my skipjack and blitzwing cancelled by target, apparently, they had enough stock to send to their **** stores months ago, but they couldn't be bothered to **** fulfill a pre-order. Apparently I didn't approve the delay, but I was never told that I needed to, so, what the hell

Same happened to me about a month ago ago with those 2 and a couple of others. Some of mine cancelled without any notice and others I had to approve, but when I went to approve and confirm the payment method, you lost out on the sale from Feb.

I ended up going with Amazon and had them within a couple days.

Cybercookiereports on Instagram shared a rumor that not only said that Grimlock would only come with his blaster and that Wheelie would not transform so I wouldn't get your hopes up if you are looking for a transforming Wheelie.

I think that they all look amazing, though I am only getting Grimlock at this point in time, all though I am interested to see what Blurr's alt mode will look like...

Jazz was always going to be a pass for me since I'm happy with United Jazz.

Grimlock looks like the last word on G1 Grimlock. I'll probably get all of these minus Jazz.

I kinda wish I hadn't gotten the Headmaster versions of these guys now.

Oh mama.....

Jazz I’m most excited for: I like the Reveal the Shield but wasn’t quite there for me. This one though...

Blurr and Grimlock look really nice, I’m down for them too.

You fall off the truck and you fall of the truck!

I'm glad I didn't shell out $90 for the Takara Legends Blurr. This one looks like it will meet my cartoon-accurate needs, and the TR one will stick around as a season 4 and toy-inspired version.

I know a lot of SS fans don't feel that G1 is a good fit, but personally I'm grateful that we can get figures that complement rather than replace Generations toys. All of the characters on this page have had figures within the last five years, and these are substantively different in engineering, deco, and overall aesthetic.

yeah I'm going have to wait on official images before I decide what I'm getting. Grimlock looks promising so far, disappointed he doesn't come with his sword but it's not a big deal. As for Blurr, man I do really like TR blurr but that looks a whole lot better. If the alt mode looks good yeah the TR one is getting retired. Oh yeah and my POTP Jazz has had a couple of breakages on his translucent parts so it won't be very hard for this Jazz to convince me to replace him (POTP Jazz wasn't even that good to begin with).

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Maybe it is just the picture quality but Jazz and Grimlock look more like R.E.D. figures than Generations figures. I guess that is the point of Studio Series, make them look exactly like they did on screen, but something about those two seems off. Looking forward to an official reveal and better quality pics.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I'm glad I didn't shell out $90 for the Takara Legends Blurr. This one looks like it will meet my cartoon-accurate needs, and the TR one will stick around as a season 4 and toy-inspired version.

I know a lot of SS fans don't feel that G1 is a good fit, but personally I'm grateful that we can get figures that complement rather than replace Generations toys. All of the characters on this page have had figures within the last five years, and these are substantively different in engineering, deco, and overall aesthetic.

Actually these are still Generations toys as Studio Series itself was just the live action movie arm of Generations. Plus with these not being numbered, it really adds to the theory that these would have ended up in Kingdom had they not decided to bring Beast Wars into the fold.

In essence, this is Hasbro having their cake and eating it (more G1 and beasts at the same time)

did they jump out of the actual movie or something?

Grimlock proportions look off, his arms look way too long. Some of the other figures look like their legs are too short but hopefully better photos will straighten that out.

Not fussed about wheelie transforming with having the pilotable tr/tl versions so he's just an added bonus.

One of the things I liked about SS was the numbering system. If they all have 86,that is pretty messed up, and pretty much makes it pointless now.

That Blurr may end up being the dark horse favorite of the bunch!

seriously, even though it is hard to make out completely from the teeny blurry images, what I can make out has me absolutely STOKED.

o.supreme wrote:One of the things I liked about SS was the numbering system. If they all have 86,that is pretty messed up, and pretty much makes it pointless now.

I bet the bay movie figures carry on the numbering system

Hmmm. Grimlock looks alright but man did they go overboard with the Sunbow influence. I really would have preferred gold over yellow and gunmetal over flat grey. Also no sword? C'mon. Might just go for the Takara Volcanicus set.

Jazz looks pretty nice though.

Need to see clearer pics, but. definitely picking up Hot Rod.

Probably picking up Grimlock, and maybe picking up Blurr. Have to see how he compares to TR Blurr though.

The other 3 don't interest me in the least.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually these are still Generations toys as Studio Series itself was just the live action movie arm of Generations. Plus with these not being numbered, it really adds to the theory that these would have ended up in Kingdom had they not decided to bring Beast Wars into the fold.

In essence, this is Hasbro having their cake and eating it (more G1 and beasts at the same time)

Fair point on the Generations label as being a category across product lines rather than a specific product line, but what I'm trying to get at is that over different product lines over the years, we get new versions of G1 that emphasize different features. Settings aside the Kingdom versus SS debate, either way SS Blurr and TR Blurr are both G1 Blurr in both modes in a way that I wouldn't consider the 2010 version, or most Classics / Universe figures more generally. There are different product refreshes that emphasize different features. While there hasn't been a whole lot of character overlap between Prime Wars and WfC generally, we're starting to get more with SS86, but it doesn't feel redundant to me. (The WfC overlap is even lower when you exclude the principal leads and retools like TR Sound wave. And I'm saying between Prime Wars and WfC, not within WfC where there's tons of overlap between Siege and ER.)

So yes, we get a wider range of characters between multiple Generations lines, but the line play patterns and aesthetic priorities also allow for very different figures of the same characters, which I find very appealing since I'm a G1 collector first.

aronjlove wrote:Maybe it is just the picture quality but Jazz and Grimlock look more like R.E.D. figures than Generations figures. I guess that is the point of Studio Series, make them look exactly like they did on screen, but something about those two seems off. Looking forward to an official reveal and better quality pics.

blackeyedprime wrote:Grimlock proportions look off, his arms look way too long. Some of the other figures look like their legs are too short but hopefully better photos will straighten that out.

The picture has been stretched vertically, so that's why the proportions look odd. The arms and legs are too long and the figures look skinnier than they really are.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Maybe it is just the picture quality but Jazz and Grimlock look more like R.E.D. figures than Generations figures. I guess that is the point of Studio Series, make them look exactly like they did on screen, but something about those two seems off. Looking forward to an official reveal and better quality pics.

blackeyedprime wrote:Grimlock proportions look off, his arms look way too long. Some of the other figures look like their legs are too short but hopefully better photos will straighten that out.

The picture has been stretched vertically, so that's why the proportions look odd. The arms and legs are too long and the figures look skinnier than they really are.

Ah, that explains it!

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:One of the things I liked about SS was the numbering system. If they all have 86,that is pretty messed up, and pretty much makes it pointless now.

I bet the bay movie figures carry on the numbering system

Same here, in fact, this might be as close to proof as we get that these were not originally intended for the SS line. If that is the case, then the numbers may not be pointless after all, aside from 86 covering multiple figures, and go right back to the traditional numbering for the rest of the bayverse figures.

Now here is a crazy thought, what if number 86 is the end of the line, and we are just getting them before the actual end to line up with Haslab Unicron's arrival. Since 69 is the Devy set that means 70-85 would be the remaining bayverse figures in the line.

My MP-08 Grimlock stands as my "Leader" scale Grimlock in my Classics shelf.

I may pick up Hot Rod, Jazz, and Grimlock. Maybe Scourge just to go with Kingdom Galvatron and Cyclonus. Hot Rod and Jazz are probably the most likely of figures to pick up. Does Hot Rod come with a Matrix?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Does Hot Rod come with a Matrix?

Yep, even comes with an effect part to recreate him opening it

Someone beat me to the punch, but I noticed right away that image on the right is skewed...
I really could tell once I glanced at the logo on the boxes.

Anyway, I'm really excited about that Grimlock...
I still remember what a letdown the Classics version was back in '07.
Imo it's ridiculous how long it's taken to get good figures for these characters...
Arguably these are some of the most popular Autobot characters from G1.

Can't wait to get clearer images!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:One of the things I liked about SS was the numbering system. If they all have 86,that is pretty messed up, and pretty much makes it pointless now.

I bet the bay movie figures carry on the numbering system

Same here, in fact, this might be as close to proof as we get that these were not originally intended for the SS line. If that is the case, then the numbers may not be pointless after all, aside from 86 covering multiple figures, and go right back to the traditional numbering for the rest of the bayverse figures.

Now here is a crazy thought, what if number 86 is the end of the line, and we are just getting them before the actual end to line up with Haslab Unicron's arrival. Since 69 is the Devy set that means 70-85 would be the remaining bayverse figures in the line.

I had the same thought. But, that means in 2021, there would be 16 slots available for bayverse toys (#70-85), which is about normal for a given year *maybe* a little sparse but including the 86 line, makes it full.

However, what about after that? I mean I don't even collect this line, but I respect the idea behind it. Combining all the TF characters that have appeared in the 6 live action films, I came up with well over 150 possible entries. Will it just end at 86?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)



...and if in 2022, they just pick up the live action line with 87 and moving on, it just seems a little disjointed and lame, since you know the number system will always be off by however many 86 toys there are...

AcademyofDrX wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually these are still Generations toys as Studio Series itself was just the live action movie arm of Generations. Plus with these not being numbered, it really adds to the theory that these would have ended up in Kingdom had they not decided to bring Beast Wars into the fold.

In essence, this is Hasbro having their cake and eating it (more G1 and beasts at the same time)

Fair point on the Generations label as being a category across product lines rather than a specific product line, but what I'm trying to get at is that over different product lines over the years, we get new versions of G1 that emphasize different features. Settings aside the Kingdom versus SS debate, either way SS Blurr and TR Blurr are both G1 Blurr in both modes in a way that I wouldn't consider the 2010 version, or most Classics / Universe figures more generally. There are different product refreshes that emphasize different features. While there hasn't been a whole lot of character overlap between Prime Wars and WfC generally, we're starting to get more with SS86, but it doesn't feel redundant to me. (The WfC overlap is even lower when you exclude the principal leads and retools like TR Sound wave. And I'm saying between Prime Wars and WfC, not within WfC where there's tons of overlap between Siege and ER.)

So yes, we get a wider range of characters between multiple Generations lines, but the line play patterns and aesthetic priorities also allow for very different figures of the same characters, which I find very appealing since I'm a G1 collector first.

Thats fair

I’m glad that these won’t share numbering with the usual Studio Series, but I am worried that these and Devastator will be our only “reveals” on Friday.

I know it's a distant picture, but did they change the coloring on Kup just a little bit? Something looks different than the reveals we had previously...

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. Grimlock looks alright but man did they go overboard with the Sunbow influence. I really would have preferred gold over yellow and gunmetal over flat grey. Also no sword? C'mon. Might just go for the Takara Volcanicus set.

That's my primary concern about Grimlock as well. I'm waiting for better pictures to judge, but if they go too cartoony with his deco and sculpt he's going to lose a lot of his "intimidation factor", which is pretty important for the Dinobots.

Blurr looks solid, I'll be interested in seeing how it compares to the TR version.

Jazz also looks decent so far. I'm very curious to see how it compares to RTS Jazz, as RTS Jazz is already basically perfection.

Tuned Agent wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. Grimlock looks alright but man did they go overboard with the Sunbow influence. I really would have preferred gold over yellow and gunmetal over flat grey. Also no sword? C'mon. Might just go for the Takara Volcanicus set.

That's my primary concern about Grimlock as well. I'm waiting for better pictures to judge, but if they go too cartoony with his deco and sculpt he's going to lose a lot of his "intimidation factor", which is pretty important for the Dinobots.

He lost his intimidation factor from the moment he first uttered the words "Me, Grimlock," in that goofy caveman voice.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Hmmm. Grimlock looks alright but man did they go overboard with the Sunbow influence. I really would have preferred gold over yellow and gunmetal over flat grey. Also no sword? C'mon. Might just go for the Takara Volcanicus set.

That's my primary concern about Grimlock as well. I'm waiting for better pictures to judge, but if they go too cartoony with his deco and sculpt he's going to lose a lot of his "intimidation factor", which is pretty important for the Dinobots.

He lost his intimidation factor from the moment he first uttered the words "Me, Grimlock," in that goofy caveman voice.

Fair point.

In case this hasn't already been asked:

Are we more excited for a Kingdom Commander class Hot Rod, or SS86 Hot Rod?

Poly Wraith wrote:In case this hasn't already been asked:

Are we more excited for a Kingdom Commander class Hot Rod, or SS86 Hot Rod?

Personally, SS Hot Rod. I don't really like the idea of wasting the Commander class slot for him when there are so many better choices, plus SS Hot Rod does everything I need a Hot Rod to do

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I’m glad that these won’t share numbering with the usual Studio Series, but I am worried that these and Devastator will be our only “reveals” on Friday.

I'm thinking we'll see some Bayverse stuff, maybe only 3 figures, but we'll see some. They have to reveal the entire next wave, and those pre-orders would likely be filled in January.

I'm thinking Bumblebee, Grindor, and maybe Jolt or Dino.

Poly Wraith wrote:In case this hasn't already been asked:

Are we more excited for a Kingdom Commander class Hot Rod, or SS86 Hot Rod?

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

SS Hot Rod all the way there, but even then, I'd be far more excited for SS TLK Hot Rod

Are there any leaked pictures of commander class hot rod? Sorry this is first im hearing of this

I agree that commander class shouldve been something else, I wouldve loved tigerhawk, depth charge, or magmatron

aronjlove wrote:Maybe it is just the picture quality but Jazz and Grimlock look more like R.E.D. figures than Generations figures. I guess that is the point of Studio Series, make them look exactly like they did on screen, but something about those two seems off. Looking forward to an official reveal and better quality pics.

The picture with Jazz and Grimlock is stretched out of proportion.

The 86 figures look decent enough, I probably will get at least Hot Rod, but I'll need to see more of Grimlock before I commit to a purchase. Wheelie supposedly not transforming as some people have said isn't necessarily a deal breaker, but with Kingdom also coming up, I need to decide whether or not the G1 Dinobots really have a place in my collection.

Soooo excited to get this series as a figure line....but, there is a but.....what if...what if they are giving us ANOTHER studio series g1 combiner wars replica of devastator....and another wfc Megatron and Optimus repaint.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Poly Wraith wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

@D-Max Commander Class Rodimus is also just wild speculation, unless I've missed something. It would be oversize, Leader would be better. We need a Leader Roddy, and a Voyager Wreck-Gar.

Who knows, maybe a miracle will occur and Hasbro will see sense and make Earth-mode Magnus a Commander-class instead of Leader-class (Commander-class UM actually makes sense, because it would allow more trailer space to carry cars with), freeing up a Leader spot for Rodimus Prime.

Geez, the Grimlock-Jazz-Kup pic is just a biiiiiit horizontally squashed.

Grimlock's accessories are disappointing, as are the yellow chest (really hope that's turned gold before the real release) and the simplified cartoony block details on his legs (where the G1 toy and the PotP Voyager had detailed greebling stickers). But even with those knocks against him, he's my most-anticipated figure of the bunch (although that might change if clearer photos reveal his sculpt to be stupidly low in detail).

Based on what we've seen so far, going to get Grimlock, Kup (I'd be lest interested if there was a "rounded arms" kit for TR Kup but there's not, and this also gives rounded fenders in the truck mode), Scourge, Hot Rod (because I like Hot Rod and this is a good one, even with as good as the TR version is and the extra work I put into mine). "Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors). They look nice, I'm just "eh" on them personally because I already have really really really good options.

Sabrblade wrote:Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

Hey let a man dream!

I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, but looking at the Studio Series '86 boxes, it's obvious that they do come with carboard backgrounds for each figure, just like in the regular Studio Series live action movie releases. That is a nice touch.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:"Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors).

There has been some murmuring from some of the leakers who have seen Studio Series 86 Jazz that his door wings can be deployed in robot mode for his G1 toy look, but it's not necessary if you want to maintain the screen accurate look of the Sunbow character model without them. We'll see soon enough if this is true.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, but looking at the Studio Series '86 boxes, it's obvious that they do come with carboard backgrounds for each figure, just like in the regular Studio Series live action movie releases. That is a nice touch.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:"Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors).

There has been some murmuring from some of the leakers who have seen Studio Series 86 Jazz that his door wings can be deployed in robot mode for his G1 toy look, but it's not necessary if you want to maintain the screen accurate look of the Sunbow character model without them. We'll see soon enough if this is true.

Hopefully it is. Although, given limited finances and the fact that RTS Jazz is still a really really good figure... It's not that I hate him, it's just that I already have one that's still highly satisfactory.

Reiterating something I added to my previous post, it would make more sense for Earth Mode Ultra Magnus to be Commander-class (because there's no slagging way a modern Leader-class could hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Rodimus Prime to be Leader-class, so here's hoping it will turn out Magnus was listed in the wrong size class or something.

Sabrblade wrote:

Poly Wraith wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

The one thing to also consider, if rumors are to be believed, that the Rodimus Prime for kingdom was being referred to as "Mutant" rodimus. meaning it is quite plausible that we are not looking at a g1 rodimus prime at all. Rather, a Rodimus Primal if you will. Remember back in the beast wars days, when an image of the next new Cheetor toy leaked, and everyone was convinced he was Rodimus Primal? good times.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...it would make more sense for Earth Mode Ultra Magnus to be Commander-class (because there's no slagging way a modern Leader-class could hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Rodimus Prime to be Leader-class, so here's hoping it will turn out Magnus was listed in the wrong size class or something.

See! I like you! You'll let a man dream! I like that!!