New Video Review of Transformers Kingdom Core Class Dracodon

Dang, I saw Soundwave and Optimus Prime netflix boxes at walmart this morning in Spring Hill, FL. And I want to get that Dracodon and put him under a black light

That_Guy wrote:Dang, I saw Soundwave and Optimus Prime netflix boxes at walmart this morning in Spring Hill, FL. And I want to get that Dracodon and put him under a black light

I used to live there!

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did anybody notice the Seeker jet on the side of the Grimlock/Mirage box? Perhaps that's a hint as to who is coming next?

Starscream.JPG

It's just Starscream.

Emerje

What show is that meme from? It's on the tip of my tongue.

Sowndwave76 wrote:These recent pictures do make his face look off again to me.
There are parts of this that look good, but overall, not enough for me to get him.
I'm a little surprised they didn't make the sword fit under the vehicle pointed in the other direction...
Not that the handle looks that much like an exhaust pipe, but that's better than a random silver "fin" sticking out from the bottom.
And I get it, the trailer will cover that up when combined. But still... Seems a little odd.

Hot Rod/Rodimus even in the MP line has never had a face that suits the character. Give me something that's a little more "Jubliant."

But Rodimus Prime wasn't a very jubilant character...even in the end speech of the movie, he wasn’t that happy. Hot Rod was happy go lucky, rodimus has the world on his back

First episode of season 3, when he opened the galactic games? Ultra Magnus had to scold him a little.

Lore Keeper wrote:

That_Guy wrote:Dang, I saw Soundwave and Optimus Prime netflix boxes at walmart this morning in Spring Hill, FL. And I want to get that Dracodon and put him under a black light

I used to live there!

Hah small world!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hot Rod/Rodimus even in the MP line has never had a face that suits the character. Give me something that's a little more "Jubliant."

But Rodimus Prime wasn't a very jubilant character...even in the end speech of the movie, he wasn’t that happy. Hot Rod was happy go lucky, rodimus has the world on his back

First episode of season 3, when he opened the galactic games? Ultra Magnus had to scold him a little.

It was peacetime. The war had finally ended so he had a brief moment to relax and be happy... until the war started right back up again when the Quints soon showed up and Galvatron returned. His happiness in that moment was circumstantial.

On a tangent, I can't believe nobody noticed this:


Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Rattrap Gallery

Look at the bottom two languages. Something's missing...

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:On a tangent, I can't believe nobody noticed this:


Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Rattrap Gallery

Look at the bottom two languages. Something's missing...

Right??? How did the packaging designers not realize they were using a font that's missing special characters? The last language is portuguese, and the second to last one is spanish. The missing letter on both is "ú". It's driving me crazy, it HAS to be a problem with the font because it's like that on every package.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:On a tangent, I can't believe nobody noticed this:


Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Rattrap Gallery

Look at the bottom two languages. Something's missing...

Emgo has mentioned it on a few of his videos. Some of the languages had a special character that didn't print for some reason on some of the package descriptions

I wouldn't say "some reason" as there is a very specific reason lol whoever created the font did not include special characters.

aronjlove wrote:I wouldn't say "some reason" as there is a very specific reason lol whoever created the font did not include special characters.

Or they are deathly afraid of the Twitter Mob who are obsessed at seeing offensive shapes in the clouds.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I wouldn't say "some reason" as there is a very specific reason lol whoever created the font did not include special characters.

Or they are deathly afraid of the Twitter Mob who are obsessed at seeing offensive shapes in the clouds.

you think they're afraid of... getting called out on Twitter for... including accented characters in the font used for the size class designation on the side of the box?

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I wouldn't say "some reason" as there is a very specific reason lol whoever created the font did not include special characters.

Or they are deathly afraid of the Twitter Mob who are obsessed at seeing offensive shapes in the clouds.

you think they're afraid of... getting called out on Twitter for... including accented characters in the font used for the size class designation on the side of the box?

A Japanese gamer was banned from the Apex Legend tournament for saying the word "run away" in Japanese: Nigero.
Like I said the activists and easily offended love to look for anything "offensive" everywhere to get power and clout. So the "censored" word on the side of the box could have been left like that on purpose to avoid any backlash from those idiots.

I sincerely hope that's not that and it's instead the usual laziness of including accents in non-english languages. We live in a society after all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm pretty sure it was an overnight. I mean I'm not technically savvy at all, but I do have a respect for language. Just because my keyboard dosen't have accented characters from other alphabets, I know how to look them up online. Such as Peña (a common Spanish name). Just a copy/Paste.

I'm sure Hasbro could have picked a font that recognized any character. As hard as it is to believe an oversight like that made it all the way to final product, I find it even harder to believe it was done purposefully.

o.supreme wrote:I'm pretty sure it was an overnight. I mean I'm not technically savvy at all, but I do have a respect for language. Just because my keyboard dosen't have accented characters from other alphabets, I know how to look them up online. Such as Peña (a common Spanish name). Just a copy/Paste.

I'm sure Hasbro could have picked a font that recognized any character. As hard as it is to believe an oversight like that made it all the way to final product, I find it even harder to believe it was done purposefully.

The "ñ" character can also be typed by pressing the "Alt" key followed by "164" on the number pad, just in case anyone was curious haha

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I wouldn't say "some reason" as there is a very specific reason lol whoever created the font did not include special characters.

Or they are deathly afraid of the Twitter Mob who are obsessed at seeing offensive shapes in the clouds.

you think they're afraid of... getting called out on Twitter for... including accented characters in the font used for the size class designation on the side of the box?

A Japanese gamer was banned from the Apex Legend tournament for saying the word "run away" in Japanese: Nigero.
Like I said the activists and easily offended love to look for anything "offensive" everywhere to get power and clout. So the "censored" word on the side of the box could have been left like that on purpose to avoid any backlash from those idiots.

I sincerely hope that's not that and it's instead the usual laziness of including accents in non-english languages. We live in a society after all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What you're proposing is patently ludicrous and absurd. "Núcleo" neither looks nor sounds anything like the word you're talking about. It probably is, as many have already said, just an oversight. The proof for this lies in the fact that the same error happened to the Leader class packages, which in spanish and portuguese would be "líder". A word which was properly spelt in the previous WFC lines.

On a less stupid and more graphic-design-interested note, this points to them having used a font that had no special characters, then just photoshopping the tildes in, right? Because the font hasn't changed from subline to subline.

less about rattraps packaging and more on Rattrap. I bought my son Rattrap, soon as I took him out of the packaging his left arm felt really loose compared to the right arm. Anyone else notice this? Other than how loose it is, it's on there well enough to not fall off.

dang doublepost

If Dracodon had been done more like Skelevore and Tricranium with black and translucent parts, I'd be down for it- toxic sludge dino? Count me in! As it stands, eh. Looks a bit monochromatic and I'm fine with my Vertebreak.

Hey Seibertronians! What's up! Today we got some new shots of the upcoming KD-13 Rhinox from the WFC:Kingdom line courtesy of Dengeki Hobby! If you missed out or passed on the previous release in the Generations line, you'll soon get a second chance coming up! We've got a couple of shots of both his robot and rhino modes!









He looks like a nice update and honestly like a better version than the previous generations release from a few years ago, so this October you can pick up a replacement or get him for the first time if you missed out before!

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hot Rod/Rodimus even in the MP line has never had a face that suits the character. Give me something that's a little more "Jubliant."

But Rodimus Prime wasn't a very jubilant character...even in the end speech of the movie, he wasn’t that happy. Hot Rod was happy go lucky, rodimus has the world on his back

First episode of season 3, when he opened the galactic games? Ultra Magnus had to scold him a little.

It was peacetime. The war had finally ended so he had a brief moment to relax and be happy... until the war started right back up again when the Quints soon showed up and Galvatron returned. His happiness in that moment was circumstantial.

Sure it had its Emo moments, but overall I remember Rodimus Prime being a little lighter in personality.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hot Rod/Rodimus even in the MP line has never had a face that suits the character. Give me something that's a little more "Jubliant."

But Rodimus Prime wasn't a very jubilant character...even in the end speech of the movie, he wasn’t that happy. Hot Rod was happy go lucky, rodimus has the world on his back

First episode of season 3, when he opened the galactic games? Ultra Magnus had to scold him a little.

It was peacetime. The war had finally ended so he had a brief moment to relax and be happy... until the war started right back up again when the Quints soon showed up and Galvatron returned. His happiness in that moment was circumstantial.

Sure it had its Emo moments, but overall I remember Rodimus Prime being a little lighter in personality.

I watched the whole G1 series for the first time a couple of months ago. Rodimus is definitely not a happy dude. Optimus is all smiles compared to him. A big theme during the season is his feelings of inadequacy and the fear that his inexperience will get everyone killed. In a rare move for the cartoon, there's eventually an episode that deals with this and resolves it directly, with Rodimus accepting his burden and his duty... Right before Optimus comes back and takes leadership from him, damn it.

Keeping more on topic, I'm loving this new Rhinox! His proportions are really on point. The only thing that's disappointing is the headsculpt, it looks slightly off. It's particularly puzzling given how good and show accurate the headsculpts of the rest of the Beast Wars side of kingdom is.

Well, that and his guns. The blade parts are okay, but the "body" of the guns seems very undersized.

I think the issues with the head are eye size, eyebrow size, and the lips. It almost feels like a younger Rhinox face to me. I do like how he looks aside from that however. Hopefully a 3P company like DNA Designs is keeping tabs on Kingdom and is planning an upgrade kit for everyone to give Cheetor his guns, Rhinox better guns and a new head, and maybe give Dinobot some more weapons and better raptor hands

So that Rhinox is the exact same thing as the previous Generations T30?

-Kanrabat- wrote:So that Rhinox is the exact same thing as the previous Generations T30?

Inasmuch as MP-44 is the exact same thing as MP-10.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I think the issues with the head are eye size, eyebrow size, and the lips. It almost feels like a younger Rhinox face to me. I do like how he looks aside from that however.

Yeah, which I guess matches the comic more than most. He looks like a lanky basketballer player with loosely hanging rhino parts on, there's so much visible green in bot mode compared to other takes on him.

People complain about SS86 Slag's fake jaw chest, but at least his real one hides away. Not at all happy about Rhinox having two jaws and not a bunch of teeth behind his head.

Emerje

I'd rather have generations version so far, hard to support beast wars characters when they keep making them with things that look off.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:So that Rhinox is the exact same thing as the previous Generations T30?

Inasmuch as MP-44 is the exact same thing as MP-10.

Oh.
Because the news was implying heavily that it was just a reissue.
Looking forward in hand comparisons.

Absolute Zero wrote:Hey Seibertronians! What's up! Today we got some new shots of the upcoming KD-13 Rhinox from the WFC:Kingdom line courtesy of Dengeki Hobby! If you missed out or passed on the previous release in the Generations line, you'll soon get a second chance coming up! We've got a couple of shots of both his robot and rhino modes!









He looks like a nice update and honestly like a better version than the previous generations release from a few years ago, so this October you can pick up a replacement or get him for the first time if you missed out before!

It looks pretty good, not as good as the Thrilling 30 version, but that was always going to be a tough act to follow. The faux chest is a bit off-putting, especially as the rhino's jaw is still visible behind the robot's head, but if it's what they needed to do for a more cartoon accurate chest I can't fault them for it. I have Rhinox on pre-order from Kapow Toys, but I may cancel because since then I've found other sites who are getting their pre-orders in a couple of months earlier.

Evil Eye wrote:If Dracodon had been done more like Skelevore and Tricranium with black and translucent parts, I'd be down for it- toxic sludge dino? Count me in! As it stands, eh. Looks a bit monochromatic and I'm fine with my Vertebreak.

Vertebreak's far too thin and small to be made out of translucent plastic sadly. She'd shatter from a three-foot drop. I think the mold is only cast in two plastics (main bits and rubbery bits) so there's no way around that.

Man hasbro nailed this one... mostly. the one thing that bugging me is his head. Much like the thrilling 30 rhinox, the head sculpt is fantastic, but not quite right, not quite the cartoon model rhinox. still, this is going to be a mush have for me.

I have no issue with his head. Chain-guns of doom seem too flat to me, that's my main grip. He still looks like a worthy purchase though. I didnt get the previous one and have been kicking myself in the butt or it.

Meh. Already have the T30 version, so this is a non-need for me, but this one seems off. Faux parts, tiny weapons, and those earmuffs on the headsculpt...he just looks off, especially compared to the other BW characters they've done in Kingdom. Like all the other designers were looking at old stills of the show, and whoever designed this was looking at the new comic instead.

Rhinox looks excellent.

The faux rhino mouth is forgivable, since there's no way to make the actual rhino lower jaw look like it does in the show otherwise.

The Chain guns of doom are too small. They need to be a bit bigger. I'm sure some 3rd party company is going to make some replacements at some point though.


He's definitely staying pre-ordered, more so, since I never picked up the T30 version.

Spider5800 wrote:Meh. Already have the T30 version, so this is a non-need for me, but this one seems off. Faux parts, tiny weapons, and those earmuffs on the headsculpt...he just looks off, especially compared to the other BW characters they've done in Kingdom. Like all the other designers were looking at old stills of the show, and whoever designed this was looking at the new comic instead.

It's actually the other way round, the artist probably based Rhinox off this toy, as that would have been designed first before pencil was put to paper.

Overcracker wrote:
The faux rhino mouth is forgivable, since there's no way to make the actual rhino lower jaw look like it does in the show otherwise.

I think there's ways of making the rhino jaw become the chest jaw. Maybe by having the jaw french-door itself outwards to expand and flatten it could be both.

With creative engineering it's almost always possible to compress or extend alt parts to their robot equivalent.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
The faux rhino mouth is forgivable, since there's no way to make the actual rhino lower jaw look like it does in the show otherwise.

I think there's ways of making the rhino jaw become the chest jaw. Maybe by having the jaw french-door itself outwards to expand and flatten it could be both.

With creative engineering it's almost always possible to compress or extend alt parts to their robot equivalent.

Perhaps, but at the cost of going overbudget or making excessively complex transformations that result in fragile figures, like in the Masterpiece line. At this price point, solutions like this one or the one they used for Dinobot's chest are the only way to get the proportions right.

In the downtime between waves, I've seen a bit of resurgence of Kingdom Voyager wave 1, even after a single initial sighting of Dinobot from wave 2 (I've yet to see Inferno). But for any who missed Primal/Cyclonus, you may still have a small chance at retail in some areas.

While this line seems to really be selling well (no doubt also because quality is so limited). I wonder if it was wise to have the BW characters 2:1 against original series characters. I mean, I'm not saying BW isn't popular, I mean everywhere I go, I see very little Kingdom, and when I do, it sells quickly however... I've only ever seen a single Cyclonus ONCE at a Target store, and that was quite a while ago, and I've never seen Inferno. although to be fair, my single Dinobot sighting was odd. They must have just came in because the store nearest me had 6 Dinobots (no Inferno's), a week later, they were down to 1 Dinobot, then none. So yeah they sell, but the fact that a tertiary character like Inferno from the original series is more highly sought after than arguably one of, if not THE most popular characters from BW says a lot. I don't blame hasbro in this case, I probably would have done the same thing. Especially after ER Grapple shelf-warmed a bit. But again, reducing the amount of toys you make significantly contributes to the demand I guess.

o.supreme wrote:In the downtime between waves, I've seen a bit of resurgence of Kingdom Voyager wave 1, even after a single initial sighting of Dinobot from wave 2 (I've yet to see Inferno). But for any who missed Primal/Cyclonus, you may still have a small chance at retail in some areas.

While this line seems to really be selling well (no doubt also because quality is so limited). I wonder if it was wise to have the BW characters 2:1 against original series characters. I mean, I'm not saying BW isn't popular, I mean everywhere I go, I see very little Kingdom, and when I do, it sells quickly however... I've only ever seen a single Cyclonus ONCE at a Target store, and that was quite a while ago, and I've never seen Inferno. although to be fair, my single Dinobot sighting was odd. They must have just came in because the store nearest me had 6 Dinobots (no Inferno's), a week later, they were down to 1 Dinobot, then none. So yeah they sell, but the fact that a tertiary character like Inferno from the original series is more highly sought after than arguably one of, if not THE most popular characters from BW says a lot. I don't blame hasbro in this case, I probably would have done the same thing. Especially after ER Grapple shelf-warmed a bit. But again, reducing the amount of toys you make significantly contributes to the demand I guess.

Kingdom figures have been few and far between out here, some of it I think is the problems with shipping (not enough truck drivers) and some of it is people buying to resell for a higher price. That said, I've actually seen _two_ Cyclonus's but no Dinobots.

For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

T30 I was super exited for, but found it kind of weak. The head doesn't stay together in Rhino form, the guns don't store right, and his arms don't lock into his forelegs properly. It could be I got a crappy one and others have better mileage from theirs though. If I can find the Kingdom Rhinox, I'd definitely unload my T30 one.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
The faux rhino mouth is forgivable, since there's no way to make the actual rhino lower jaw look like it does in the show otherwise.

I think there's ways of making the rhino jaw become the chest jaw. Maybe by having the jaw french-door itself outwards to expand and flatten it could be both.

With creative engineering it's almost always possible to compress or extend alt parts to their robot equivalent.

You’re basically wanting the lower jaw to quadruple in size to make it cover his entire chest. That would have resulted in an impossibly thick bottom jaw in Rhino mode.

Its not physically possible to make it expand to that degree without having it be just super thick in rhino mode with a bunch of hinges and panels.

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

I noticed, but if you click open in a new tab/window it'll still work.

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

I noticed, but if you click open in a new tab/window it'll still work.

Only after first bypassing a "Forbidden: You do not have permission to access this webpage" message.

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

I noticed, but if you click open in a new tab/window it'll still work.

Only after first bypassing a "Forbidden: You do not have permission to access this webpage" message.

Really? I didn't have that problem.

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

I noticed, but if you click open in a new tab/window it'll still work.

Only after first bypassing a "Forbidden: You do not have permission to access this webpage" message.

Really? I didn't have that problem.

Because the image was already in your cache the moment it first showed up on your end.

I preordered the Battle through time set, I am excited for that Grimlock.

I got me a bird. She's pretty nice.





Also, I put my 2 Dinobots side by side

I just thought of another reason to get Kingdom Grimlock: To swap swords between him and Dinobot so that Dinobot can have a sword colored closer to his onscreen silver one.

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:For people looking for comparison shots between T30 and Kingdom:



From a rival site, and just the bot mode.

Broken pic because TFormers doesn't permit hotlinking.

I noticed, but if you click open in a new tab/window it'll still work.

Only after first bypassing a "Forbidden: You do not have permission to access this webpage" message.

Really? I didn't have that problem.

Because the image was already in your cache the moment it first showed up on your end.

Didn't get this issue on my phone, but did get it on my PC. Weird restriction.

Comparison pics are nice, although it doesn't necessarily give us a good height comparison (the Kingdom one is likely shorter, given how this line has gone so far). Looking at them like this, the Kingdom one does have some advantages. A better silhouette, for one (T30 looks kind of lanky here). But I still can't get over that weird head, and I keep noticing new details that are off (why did they add those big vent things on his shoulders?). T30's only weird details are on the chest, which I'm willing to cut some slack on since they used the actual rhino jaw to make it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D108cT5 ... imeVsPrime

The first review of CC Rodimus is out by primevsprime. It is a really great figure but I still don't like the fact that he is a CC.

LinaNui wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D108cT59uWk&ab_channel=PrimeVsPrime

The first review of CC Rodimus is out by primevsprime. It is a really great figure but I still don't like the fact that he is a CC.

Color me impressed.

That's one involved transformation. Tons of little details like working lift struts for the rear trailer door. And tons of paint. Yeah I can see where the Commander Class budget went.

Also, nice that its larger than PotP.

The trailer storage door kind of feels like a desperate attempt to use more plastic unnecessarily however.

Overall he's awesome. Can't wait to get him. Pre-Ordered since he showed up on BBTS.

Noiceeeeeeeeeee
Definitely snatching him up