New War for Cybertron Kingdom Wave 2 revealed with official product images and descriptions

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

It definitely looks like a giant fist lol

Rtron wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That is a very impressive Airazor!

Dinobot...



If a figure design from 1996 had the sense to bend his legs in on themselves at the knee to streamline the Beast Mode. How does a figure from 2020 botch that?

This is Masterpiece Blackarachnia all over again. I've even read those defending it in the last few pages. Just like BA... Sigh

The original Dinobot being streamlined is... very debatable. We'll have to wait until we see it in hand, but it seems like the legs hide better in the Kingdom one, as the raptor's body seems to have space carved out for them go into. Which is unsurprising, as the legs are just there in your face in the original one, just resting there against a flat surface.

I say this as someone with an immense nostalgic attachment to the mold, as Beast Wars Grimlock was my one of my first and favourite transformers, but: It's hard to find a worse way to deal with the robot legs than the one used in the original Beast Wars Dinobot.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

It definitely looks like a giant fist lol

Maybe he can do a giant brofist with CW Rook.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

It definitely looks like a giant fist lol

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Magnus is very mistransformed.

Magnus' transformation has been altered. The only mistransformation is failing to flip the codpiece around in armored robot mode.

Overcracker wrote:The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands. His trailer should start over his shoulders (the red part), not back by his legs.

It's been changed so that the cab sticks out more, in an attempt to make him look less like RiD and more like G1. It may still be possible to connect it like the SIEGE version was, but the way it's shown is a deliberate change.

Overcracker wrote:Also his shoulder pieces look retooled from Siege/Netflix to be flatter and more G1

The SIEGE ones are equally G1, these just look more like the animation model (which had a flat, smooth right shoulder so they could put a faction symbol on it, and a dumbed-down version of the toy detailing on the left shoulder) than the toy.

Overcracker wrote:And it looks like his trailer panels have been retooled to removing one hinge and the front most panel. Not sure why they would do that.

They didn't remove the frontmost panel; they replaced the frontmost and rearmost panels with new ones that have representations of the G1 toy's trailer pillars.
Nor did they remove a hinge - it's just set up slightly differently because the upper deck taillights are now part of the white shin/inner calf pieces instead of being part of the trailer side panels.

Overcracker wrote:Magnus should look much better when he is properly put together in all of his modes.

For the most part, he already is. Aside from the failure to collapse the inner robot chest inward in one shot, and the failure to turn his codpiece around.

Overcracker wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands.

Back of the box art shows the trailer to be that way so it is how it has meant to be attached

And the back of the box has never been wrong?

No, but that's not the case here. The stock photo, the back of box photo, and the actual drawn art show it like that.

Overcracker wrote:Nope, its definitely wrong. The red back panel attaches over the shoulders and around the smokestacks.

No, that's where it attached on the SIEGE version. Like I said, he's been reworked in an effort to make him look more G1. Part of that is that the shoulder pylons, to which the cab attaches, are now connected to the forward-middle trailer panels.

Overcracker wrote:You can just make out the chest piece dipping down into the trailer when it should be straight when correctly transformed and pegged into the trailer side panels and the top of the shin panels.

What you can actually make out is the forearm covers, pegged in exactly where they should be. The chest is pegged in exactly where it's supposed to be. If anything, the blue part projects downward a bit more, but that's because it's been changed to be slightly more like MP-22 than a flattened version of the G1 toy.

Overcracker wrote:The picture on the back of the box is clearly missing the shoulder pylons that attach underneath the trailer and onto the inner robot's lower leg peg.

Oh really?

Take a close look by the cab's rear wheels. Take a good, hard look. Gee, that blue boxy thing with a narrower white boxy thing protruding from it sure looks an awful lot like a shoulder pylon!

Overcracker wrote:The back of the box in this case is incredibly wrong.

No, I'm afraid that would be you. You are the one who is incredibly wrong. You're so wrong about this you remind me of me circa 2011-12 on certain forums...

Jeddostotle7 wrote:why does everyone seem to forget the "butt" bumper slides up to be a backpack on Siege Magnus, and thus also will on Kingdom Magnus, especially given that's what the back of the box shows is true for the latter

Perhaps because it doesn't slide up particularly well, at least in my experience.

Seibertron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

It definitely looks like a giant fist lol

I thought the same thing, but it seems fitting for his character though.

Seibertron wrote:Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the raptor hands on Dinobot look "off" to put it politely. Is it too late to remold the hands? The artwork got it right, but the toy itself looks like he's got broken wrists or something with his hands hanging oddly and not very threatening.

Razorbeast88 wrote:I am not worthy of your reply (begins to bow down like Wayne/Garth) but I am honored haha

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the raptor hands on Dinobot look "off" to put it politely. Is it too late to remold the hands? The artwork got it right, but the toy itself looks like he's got broken wrists or something with his hands hanging oddly and not very threatening.

Looking at some of the images it looks like the raptor hands fold into his torso and are visible from the sides, so I guess that's part of what led to them looking so weird. A remold would be nice, or maybe an upgrade kit but im not sure what else would come in one other than better hands lol

ScottyP wrote:Huffer looks incredible! So glad he can pull the trailer.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

It definitely looks like a giant fist lol

I thought the same thing, but it seems fitting for his character though.

I am not worthy of your reply (begins to bow down like Wayne/Garth) but I am honored haha

And yes, definitely goes with the super strength part of his character. Now he just needs to come out in the kingdom cartoon saying "it's clobberin time!"

Overcracker wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the raptor hands on Dinobot look "off" to put it politely. Is it too late to remold the hands? The artwork got it right, but the toy itself looks like he's got broken wrists or something with his hands hanging oddly and not very threatening.

Looking at some of the images it looks like the raptor hands fold into his torso and are visible from the sides, so I guess that's part of what led to them looking so weird. A remold would be nice, or maybe an upgrade kit but im not sure what else would come in one other than better hands lol

A chromed sword, and spinny tail weapon?

Seibertron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I am not worthy of your reply (begins to bow down like Wayne/Garth) but I am honored haha

No need for that! We're all just here to celebrate our love of all things Transformers! Well, most things at least.

Seibertron wrote:

ScottyP wrote:Huffer looks incredible! So glad he can pull the trailer.

I like how everyone is really into Huffer. He looks great. It's really the first time ever that we've gotten a proper Huffer. Like ever. They finally did him right after several poor attempts and now everyone's rightfully like "wow, he looks great!".

Kudos to Hasbro and Takara Tomy for finally doing Huffer right. Can't wait to see the inevitable Pipes get the same proper treatment. Hope they can get the cab right for Pipes in robot mode.

Seibertron wrote:Dinobot's Velociraptor hands aside, I hope they made this mold with the alternate toy head in mind. I could go for a proper Beast Wars Grimlock recolor / retool (this time around without the gold plastic).

Razorbeast88 wrote:Haha sorry I had to say something, I've been following this website since I was 8-9 years old and first getting into collecting transformers. I used to use the galleries here to decide whether I wanted a figure or not, and started with getting Beast Wars figures on eBay. Its been about 13 years since then and just wanted to express appreciation! These discussion forums are great

Rodimus Prime wrote:And Sabrblade, I agree that Magnus's cab looks very plain up front and a red bumper would not only be accurate but would liven it up a bit. If I had my way, he'd have a huge chrome grille guard on there, even if it wasn't accurate.

Seibertron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Haha sorry I had to say something, I've been following this website since I was 8-9 years old and first getting into collecting transformers. I used to use the galleries here to decide whether I wanted a figure or not, and started with getting Beast Wars figures on eBay. Its been about 13 years since then and just wanted to express appreciation! These discussion forums are great

That means a lot to me to hear. It's amazing how this site has impacted so many people in so many ways over the years. Hard to believe I was just a tad bit older than you when I started this website back in 2000. My how time flies!

All of this talk about Beast Wars makes me want to get back into doing Beast Wars galleries again soon.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But Razorbeast88 is right, this is really what you advertise it as, the ultimate Transformers resource. (I wish you had the TF:TM screen caps back, though.)

ZeroWolf wrote:Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Overall, wave 2 looks to be a lot of fun. When is The Ark coming?

o.supreme wrote:Lastly...Magnus not having an earth mode trailer=FAIL.

Seibertron wrote:Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the raptor hands on Dinobot look "off" to put it politely. Is it too late to remold the hands? The artwork got it right, but the toy itself looks like he's got broken wrists or something with his hands hanging oddly and not very threatening.

Seibertron wrote:All of this talk about Beast Wars makes me want to get back into doing Beast Wars galleries again soon.

ZeroWolf wrote:I found the site through the galleries too when I first started collecting in 2008...took me 6 years to finally make an account

@Will which small scale megs do you mean?

Now repacking Arcee, two thoughts occur:

1) Hasbro thought that her Earthrise release would be scarce so sought to remedy it.

Or

2) hasbro wanted Arcee to be on the shelves the same time as the Studio Series 86 figures...Same as why Ultra Magnus earth mode is here.

Bone Age wrote:I'm sure at this point this Q has already been answered but, is the "unarmored" Magnus mis-transformed?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Bone Age wrote:I'm sure at this point this Q has already been answered but, is the "unarmored" Magnus mis-transformed?

Yes, there's a mistransformation in pretty much all of the Magnus pics between what you just said, the crotchplate, and some of the armor being missing from the trailer.

Mindmaster wrote:Okay, the little Megatron is cool, and it’s adorable that he comes with a mini-me. Definitely a step up from the old 2014 Legends one, will definitely get him.

On the fence with Starscream despite me being a Seeker junkie. If I see him in stores, sure why not. But I’m not going to go out of my way to get him.

Inferno and Huffer are good looking as expected, glad I didn’t bite for the low-effort retools of Legends Optimus and Hot Spot.

Ractonite... meh. Like I can take or leave it but like Starscream I’m not going to go out of my way for it.

Did... did they really just describe Arcee’s alt mode as an Earth sports car???

TulioDude wrote:Wonder if the Kingdom cartoon will use Ultra Magnus?

Optimus:I thought Megatron had killed you!

Ultra Magnus:Yeah,but I got better.

Day 336 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Wonder if the Kingdom cartoon will use Ultra Magnus?

Optimus:I thought Megatron had killed you!

Ultra Magnus:Yeah,but I got better.

Day 336 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Just wrong man, just wrong. We should've seen more of that Armada Prime by now, heard it had to be pulled.

Overcracker wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Wonder if the Kingdom cartoon will use Ultra Magnus?

Optimus:I thought Megatron had killed you!

Ultra Magnus:Yeah,but I got better.

Day 336 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Just wrong man, just wrong. We should've seen more of that Armada Prime by now, heard it had to be pulled.

Yeah, whatever happened to that Armada Prime Takara teased with the Star Convoy retool or PotP Prime?