Official Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG32 Chromedome, LG33 Highbrow, LG34 Mindwipe
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Posted by Cyberpath on July 5th, 2016 @ 5:11am CDT
But sigh, more drones. Mindwipe even has the same one as Skullcruncher. Wish they ditched those, especially now that the Yen is strong.
Posted by MemphisR56 on July 5th, 2016 @ 7:11am CDT
That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.
All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:21am CDT
MemphisR56 wrote:definitely looks like the same headsculpt on Domey there. Sorry to burst a few bubbles. It's too difficult to tell with all the artefacts in there whether they changed the paint on the visor though.
That's still going to be my go to chromedome and stylor though.
All the others I'm not sure they're different enough to really justify splashing out on takara, considering my nation's current self-inflicted economic blight
It's not the same it's different. The IDW/hasbro version has more smooth curves. This one has a more straight edge blocky look.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:41am CDT
Think they'll show Brainstorm in the next batch?
Posted by fenrir72 on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:55am CDT
Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:09am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Hominahominahomina!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chromedome looks like the anime. Same with the rest. So would Brainstorm then sport a mouth instead of a face guard?
I think that's a given that Brainstorm will have a mouth. It's hard to believe they'd alter everyone except him.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:33am CDT
william-james88 wrote:legends groove.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:legends groove.
william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released
That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:43am CDT
william-james88 wrote:IF they release Brainstorm. That is still far from a guarantee. There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released lately like the Plainum DInobots with new G1 heads, the reissue of Perceptor with new accessories, legends Groove and I dont think they will release Hasbro's version of CW Strafe. I am holding no hope until I see it.
I think they will. It's true they've yet to release certain retools and remolds but this is is headmasters. That was their series and they're going out of their way to make new heads for these guys. It's just a matter of time. My first thought was "God they'll mall make it an online or mall exclusive like deadlock or some of the combiners"
It's surprising it took them 2 1/3 years to do release skids and it wasn't even a toy deco it was straight MTMTE. Still waiting and hoping for Jhiaxus. Takara is picky when it comes to doing characters.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:43am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:william-james88 wrote:legends groove.william-james88 wrote:There is a ton of Hasbro exclusive tooling and redecos Takara hasnt released
That aint the Groove bro, sure as hell aint his deco.
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:53am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:03am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
But they still released the mold. That example doesn't exactly hold up to the other examples you mentioned since it was released in a way.
But by the logic you present, that means they could release brainstorm as another character with a different colour. Takara not releasing the Groove legends deco is a hint that they dont like releasing the same character in the legends line and they already released a Legends Brainstorm. So my example is very apt. So going by what you have stated, if Takara releases the Brainstorm retool then it would be as a different character.
That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:04am CDT
Hell, even if they don't release Brainstorm... I can see them making a new mold for Brainstorm. I know it sounds crazy, but so far all the new molds they've made - Blast Off, Groove - have been for the sake of completing a set. So if they somehow don't get their hands on that Brainstorm, they'll sure as hell make their own because there's no way they're making a line of the Headmasters and missing Brainstorm. It's like ordering a Pizza, Garlic Bread and a bottle of Coke but they ran out of Garlic Bread and don't charge you for it. You're happy with what you got, yeah, but there's something very significant missing.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT
william-james88 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:That's not what I said at all but if you want to take this route than the override/groove comparison isn't indicative of anything regarding the legends line since override was released under TAV and deluxe groove was released under unite warriors. Takara has already released characters twice under the legends line like rat trap and rhinox but they use them as exclusives. So they very well could just use the brain storm tooling but as an exclusive instead.
Your right and I can totally see that and I agree. But that still means everyone is back where we started off since Brainstorm is not part of Hasbro's standard schedule and so far Takara is following that schedule quite closely. An exclusve makes sense, but what is the most any of you would pay for a deluxe Brainstorm from Takara? Because Rattrap and co were 40$ back when the exchange was in our favor.
I still think they can release him as a standard release. Just because the legends line hasn't released the same character twice (outside exclusives) doesn't mean they can't. Only time will tell though
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:33am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.
Personally I don't demand and need cartoon accuracy, just having the character is good enough for me. Now when it came to the femcons, I bought those and Ultra Magnus and skids because they were gorgeous and I had a little extra cash to toss at an import.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:36am CDT
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I'm going hasbro. I've never had issues with how they do stuff the cost is cheaper for me. Even buying from a straight Japanese vendor doesn't make it cheaper for me most of the time and I don't mind just checking out a couple walmarts and targets on my days off.
We are of the same mind
Posted by SeventhSage on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:01am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by leokearon on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:11am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Question for all of you though, are you still planning on buying these toys at 40$ a piece? I placed my preorders for who I wanted in the previous wave and bought when the yen was lower but it looks like I am sticking with hasbro for the entirety of Wave 2 of Titans Return. How about you guys?
I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:15am CDT
leokearon wrote:I wasn't planning on buying any of the Takara Deluxes, I prefer the Hasbro heads and it would prefer to have the Titan Masters Vehicles with their Titan masters
Yeah thats a huge bummer for me too. I mean they are meant to interact so you cant actually have a complete mini dinosaur without your robot losing his head.
Posted by xMXUx on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:19am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 5th, 2016 @ 11:28am CDT
And you know what would be a cool accessory for him instead of another drone? A Rebirth-accurate head sculpt! Give us both options, like with MP-33 Inferno.
Posted by durroth on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
Highbrow doesn't look that different from his Hasbro counterpart but I'll reserve judgement for now.
Mindwipe is never gonna look good regardless of the deco. Sorry, but I'm going FP for him. (Or getting the old ROTF figure, that thing is awesome).
Posted by EvilOmar on July 5th, 2016 @ 12:59pm CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6GaJKjupbk
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:13pm CDT
*EDIT* For those curious, the vehicles included come from these Titan Master Class (not Legends Class) releases: Nightbeat, Loudmouth and Crashbash (again), completing that list as well.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:17pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CDT
Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
They probably won't make a sentinel due to him and astrotrain sharing molds but also the fact he has no history in Japan. Like I said before Japan is super picky about what they'll make and release. It's baffling they did grand galvatron and Lynx Master.
I don't even think they'll do Alpha Trion. I see them using that mold for Lio Convoy before they use it for Alpha Trion. Not because he doesn't have history hit because the body doesn't looked like alpha Trion. They wouldn't do minimus Ambus, they painted him as Alpha and made up some weird story about him joyriding inside Magnus.
Japan is weird...
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:49pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So, with Legends Chromedome, Highbrow and Wipe (Yes, Mindwipe's Japanese name is just "Wipe", poor guy) we have all Deluxe counterparts to the current Hasbro releases. Still no word on any Voyager and Leader releases except for Broadcast/Blaster and Galvatron... What is TakaraTomy up to?
Well, we do know what's happening with PM OP, at least.
Which really just leaves us with Sentinel, Astrotrain and Soundwave.
I highly doubt they will release Sentinel since he is just a redeco. Soundwave is a mystery.
I thought Astrotrain was the retool of Sentinel... Ugh, pretools drive me batty!
There are 0 retooled parts. A new head, sure, but thats no longer a part of the body like before, its a seperate robot.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 1:55pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:I don't even think they'll do Alpha Trion. I see them using that mold for Lio Convoy before they use it for Alpha Trion. Not because he doesn't have history hit because the body doesn't looked like alpha Trion. They wouldn't do minimus Ambus, they painted him as Alpha and made up some weird story about him joyriding inside Magnus.
Japan is weird...
Another Lio Prime would be dull though. They did that last time Hasbro released a lion TF.
And that body and head looked nothing like Leo Prime. So yeah Japan is weird.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:01pm CDT
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:05pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
Bu that means japanese fans wont get a release of Alpha Trion and will be stuck importing.
Posted by Kurona on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
But that means japanese fans wont get a release of Alpha Trion and will be stuck importing.
That's true; but on the other hand, it means everywhere else in the world won't get... whatever theoretical character Takara would repaint this mold into. So it balances out in the worst kind of way.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
Bu that means japanese fans wont get a release of Alpha Trion and will be stuck importing.
Should a Alpha Trion into Lio Convioy come to pass, I wonder what they'll do with the Headmaster. Also, with the upcoming Voyager Optimus Prime possibly being considered a "double" release (two Convoy-like toys in a single year), they could switch out Sovereign with the Prime Titan Master, whatever he's called.
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 2:32pm CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I'm honestly surprised Hasbro redecoed Leobreaker into Leo Prime before Japan got the chance. Takara always seems to have a massive hard-on for Lio Convoy and Star Saber... which is why I could see them turning Alpha Trion into him.
But hey, at least it'd be something different instead of just the same toy with a little extra paint.
But that means japanese fans wont get a release of Alpha Trion and will be stuck importing.
That's true; but on the other hand, it means everywhere else in the world won't get... whatever theoretical character Takara would repaint this mold into. So it balances out in the worst kind of way.
Well they had to wait 2 1/2 years for Skids. There's no plans for a Jhiaxus, Crosscut, or the leader Class seeker mold. Takara tries to stay faithful as much as they can with little deviations but not much. Looks at the redecos that we've seen leaked photos of. I'd wager they won't be getting that Getaway retool of Chromedome.
We never even got that Nightbird or Blackarachnia retool yet we got slipstream as a botcon exclusive and god knows what Hasbro had to deal with to get CW Groove because they said up until March they didn't know if they'd make a deluxe version.
Posted by william-james88 on July 5th, 2016 @ 3:02pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Well they had to wait 2 1/2 years for Skids. There's no plans for a Jhiaxus, Crosscut, or the leader Class seeker mold. Takara tries to stay faithful as much as they can with little deviations but not much. Looks at the redecos that we've seen leaked photos of. I'd wager they won't be getting that Getaway retool of Chromedome.
Jut so you know, Getaway is just a redeco with a new head, there are no retooled parts. You know what, maybe we just figured it out. Takara follows the Hasbro schedule pretty closely for the deluxes but they dont like doing straight up redecos when they already released the mold previously (at least recently). So it could be that Brainstorm will replace Getaway from the third wave of deluxes.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2016 @ 5:06pm CDT
That toy's bio justified its appearance differing from Lio Convoy's original look.william-james88 wrote:Another Lio Prime would be dull though. They did that last time Hasbro released a lion TF.
And that body and head looked nothing like Leo Prime. So yeah Japan is weird.
And later on, the TCC capitalized on what that toy's bio said and expanded upon it even further in their own fiction.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2016 @ 6:20pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 8:14pm CDT
Sadly heads are going to depend on mileage. Scourge is pretty bobbly, it's the connector ports, not the heads themselves.
Posted by Zeedust on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:42pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.
It suggests to me that the wanted Apeface's colors to match Weirdwolf's.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2016 @ 9:51pm CDT
Apeface's monkey/jet/gun vehicle accessory, that is, since Apeface himself doesn't come with Weirdwolf.Zeedust wrote:Weirdwolf doesn't inspire me, but that Apeface mold looks great.Cyberpath wrote:The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.
It suggests to me that the wanted Apeface's colors to match Weirdwolf's.
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:20pm CDT
Zeedust wrote:Weirdwolf doesn't inspire me, but that Apeface mold looks great.Cyberpath wrote:The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.
It suggests to me that the wanted Apeface's colors to match Weirdwolf's.
I agree. I don't believe Takara will be doing what they did with CW and start hashing it their own molds. I think they wanted to put a vehicle/beast with weirdwolf like they've done with the other headmasters they're putting out and that was hadn't been used yet.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:30pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Zeedust wrote:Weirdwolf doesn't inspire me, but that Apeface mold looks great.Cyberpath wrote:The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.
It suggests to me that the wanted Apeface's colors to match Weirdwolf's.
I agree. I don't believe Takara will be doing what they did with CW and start hashing it their own molds. I think they wanted to put a vehicle/beast with weirdwolf like they've done with the other headmasters they're putting out and that was hadn't been used yet.
That would also explain why they reused the Crashbash vehicle for Wipe (again, Japanese name of Mindwipe). Also, only the original Headmasters in the anime seem to be eligible for extras, not the likes of Scourge and Blurr.
By the by, the Apeface vehicle matching Weirdwolf has a rather unfortunate consequence, as pointed out by Sabrblade:
Read this at your own risk
Posted by Zeedust on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:51pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Apeface's monkey/jet/gun vehicle accessory, that is, since Apeface himself doesn't come with Weirdwolf.Zeedust wrote:Weirdwolf doesn't inspire me, but that Apeface mold looks great.Cyberpath wrote:The fact that Takara didn't give Apeface cartoon-colours suggests to me that perhaps they are working on proper toys for the Horrorcons (like with Groove and Blast Off.
It suggests to me that the wanted Apeface's colors to match Weirdwolf's.
The guy I was replying to referred to it as Apeface, so I went with that. Talking about these things would be so much easier if the "accessory" components had their own names, something along the line of "TERRI-BULL with Blastcharge vehicle" or "CLOBBER with T-Wrecks beast" or something.
Posted by Randomhero on July 5th, 2016 @ 10:51pm CDT