Official Images: Transformers Generations Deluxe Wave 3 - Rattrap, Crosscut, Tankor

Huh, Rattrap's little bombs are new... they didn't appear in the magazine. But anyway...

OMG RATTRAP HAS BOMBS! Instantly bought. Easily the best Rattrap we ever got.

Now that I get to see the rest of the images in better quality, I can make some stuff out. More specifically, it looks as though Tankor's legs are capable of being extended. Which appear to not be extended correctly, giving him his stumpy look.

Also liking Crosscut's head. Vaguely reminds me of Victory Star Saber...

No Nightbeat, still? That's pretty worrisome, but I bet we'll see him in the next wave, if there is one.

Crosscut is silver, not white.

GuyIncognito wrote:Crosscut is silver, not white.

Quite right you are. Updated!

Mindmaster wrote:Huh, Rattrap's little bombs are new... they didn't appear in the magazine. But anyway...

OMG RATTRAP HAS BOMBS!

What bombs? I see a set of binoculars and two guns.

I liked the Tankor character, even though he was Beast Machines, I liked the character.

I liked the original toy, so much so I used the mold as a basis for one of my own kitbashes.

But this Tankor? No. Looks cheap, tacky, over-simplified and like they just didn't try at all.

Crosscut is very nice, as is Rattrap. But Tankor ... so very disappointed.

Tankor - Small, thin armed, and basic as all hell. Who thought this was a good idea?
Crosscut - Looks cool enough, but did this guy do anything besides die?
Rattrap - Still don't like the translucent weapons, but everything else still checks out for the most part. Rat mode could be a bit less toothy.

When the club mentioned at Botcon that there were things they wanted to do that Hasbro was doing, and that they were surprised by a lot of it, Crosscut had to be one of those things. He oozes obscurity, and almost certainly has no mainstream appeal. That said, it's fantastic to be getting this as a $13 mass retail toy. If you'd told me a year ago that a deluxe Crosscut would be coming out, I'd have bet good money that it would've been a $60+ club or convention exclusive.

Hats off on that one. Even if it isn't for you, move on and appreciate that it isn't just another version of a character that we've seen 50 times like Bumblebee.

Edit: Just saw this:

Shadowstream wrote:Crosscut - Looks cool enough, but did this guy do anything besides die?

Barber says in the Dark Cybertron #1 Deluxe edition that Crosscut will make his first appearance in Dark Cybertron #7, which is RiD 25 I think? He'll have a role in the comics, even if it's a bit part.

Tankor looks really good from those images. He looks show-accurate in the molded detail, plus he should be larger than the original show-accurate Tank Drone (which was Scout-sized). Crosscut is a nice expected surprise, let's hope he doesn't suffer from Skids' misassembly problem. Rattrap... now he's the chopperface

*EDIT* I could so see FunPub using Skids and Crosscut as... the Quantum Operatives Skids and MudflapScreech

I could see that Rattrap's arm opened in previous pics, but I never did notice the bomb. I hope they paint that and the guns, otherwise it just looks weird. In all, very excited for that figure.

Crosscut looks very nice. I want Skids because he's a cool character, but I want Crosscut because he looks so damn cool. Decisions, decisions.

And Tankor...I don't hate him. I think that they would have better served him by making him a Voyager class, but whatever. If I see him on clearance, I might just make a Centurion Drone out of him.

Rattrap and Tankor look fantastic.

Crosscut looks mediocre, and I'm willing to bet he'll look worse in-hand. After getting and being disappointed by Skids, I am unfortunately staying as far away as possible from that mold.

Rattrap is near perfect, Tankor is pretty good, but could have been better at Voyager scale.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Huh, Rattrap's little bombs are new... they didn't appear in the magazine. But anyway...

OMG RATTRAP HAS BOMBS!

What bombs? I see a set of binoculars and two guns.

The Binoculars as you call them are actually one of his bombs he stores in his wrists. But I have to admit, it does kinda look like a set of binoculars.

I don't get the Tankor hate, he's about as show-accurate as a deluxe can get.

Either way, all three of these are bought on sight!

Shadowstream wrote:Tankor - Small, thin armed, and basic as all hell. Who thought this was a good idea?

I think this could describe the Armada Starscream as well that nearly everyone is falling over about.

Still, I enjoy all three of these and will be responding appropriately with my wallet.

Rattrap looks great. Wish his rat head was more like an actual rat's, and I don't get why he has clear weapons, but overall he's great. Love the bombs in the arms, and the fact that they're deployable and not just sculpted in.

Tankor... I really want to like him, but he's just so slightly off I don't like him all that much. His arms are too scrawny, and his cannon is just weird looking, and I'm really not fond of how the entire front of his body is basically a facade which doesn't do the tank mode any favors (which somehow manages to look less interesting than the show model). And of course he's at least one size class too small. Bah.
While not a con against the toy, not making the missile resemble the Key to Vector Sigma is a missed opportunity.

I really don't like that Tankor, the scout one from a decade ago looks more like the show model. This one sucks. Also why Crosscut? That seems more like a club exclusive. There must have been some better mass retail redeco to do

Rattrap really looks amazing. He's pretty show accurate aside from a few differences. I wish his rat head didn't look so feral.

Crosscut's deco is pretty sweet to look at. Hope he's actually coloured like that.

As for tankor I don't really mind him. Yeah he's not perfect and yes his cannon's not shaped right along with his arms and tank mode not ebign thick enough but other then that he's pretty spot on to his CGI model in BM.

Mkall wrote:I don't get the Tankor hate, he's about as show-accurate as a deluxe can get.

Either way, all three of these are bought on sight!

Tankor is deluxe hes show acuuate I admit maybe its transformation from to toy looks legend size to me

Rattrap & Crosscut: instabuy. They both look super cool - not to mention fun.

I understand where the all the Tankor love comes from, but the jury's out for me. He seems just slightly off to me in robot mode, and after looking at the pics for a minute, I think it's because the legs are too short. The way the proportions are now, he looks rather... dwarfish. If the legs were slightly longer, I think the bulk would add a sense of menace. Right now, he just looks silly.

Also, just because I think he looks a bit silly, doesn't I mean I don't commend Hasbro for show accuracy:

ScottyP wrote:When the club mentioned at Botcon that there were things they wanted to do that Hasbro was doing, and that they were surprised by a lot of it, Crosscut had to be one of those things. He oozes obscurity, and almost certainly has no mainstream appeal. That said, it's fantastic to be getting this as a $13 mass retail toy. If you'd told me a year ago that a deluxe Crosscut would be coming out, I'd have bet good money that it would've been a $60+ club or convention exclusive.

So, FunPub probably had the rug pulled out from under their Crosscut plans, huh? Well, if they're reading this, and really want to do a repaint of something from this wave (other than the obvious Packrat), I'll just say it again:

Repaint Tankor into minty-green G2 Cybertronian army colors! Make up whatever name you want for him; no one in that faction lower-ranking than Mindset ever had a name, right? And once you're done with the deluxe Prime Megatron mold, repaint the voyager Megs into Jhiaxus and give the new Cybertankians a commander! Now them's exclusives I'll pay $60 a pop or more for!

And for the record, this Crosscut was first established in his e-Hobby bio 11 years ago as the ambassador paving the way for Autobot City's construction, so Hasbro doing him also raises the possibility of Turbo Tracks's mold being dusted off to make his bodyguard Road Rage, right? Since the BotCon red Tracks was SG Tracks, it wouldn't be double-dipping as much as welcome unrepurposing for Road Rage fans, yes?

And yes, I'm tempted to buy a second Rattrap so I can try and slice them fangs off...

entire wave is pretty disappointing

Megatron Wolf wrote:entire wave is pretty disappointing

But... but... but... RATTRAP!!!

Rattrap and Crosscut look awesome. I'll still get Tankor, but I'm super disappointed with that picture.

megatronus wrote:...I think it's because the legs are too short.

Mindmaster wrote:...it looks as though Tankor's legs are capable of being extended. Which appear to not be extended correctly, giving him his stumpy look.

I also took the liberty of circling said area, for your viewing convenience.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:...the scout one from a decade ago looks more like the show model.

Let us compare, shall we? Tankor himself:



The Tank Drone (both show model and toy):




And Tankor's new toy:



So yeah... Generations Tankor's the winner when it comes to accuracy.

Since we're on the subject of Tankor, does anyone else notice the buzzsaw on his left arm/rear end of the tank, by the gun's base?

HAHAHAHAHAHA come on he may be show accurate but it's a very simple robot and translates terrible in toy form they could have at least give him the classics treatment , what a waist .

More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

...and we got an update of the original toy. Boom, Hasbro has fulfilled their goal.

Ha... Now Rhinox has Three "Classic" Toys, Voyager Rhinox (US / JP) and now Tankor... God job Rhinkorx!

Poyguimogul wrote:HNow Rhinox has Three "Classic" Toys

Three? You mean two?

Loving Rattrap.

Tankor is pretty good. Always Wanted a Tankor figure. And know we have the 2 in-show appearances of Rhinox interestingly enough in the generations line.

I wonder if we'll get A Transmetal Rhinox too?

Mindmaster wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

...and we got an update of the original toy. Boom, Hasbro has fulfilled their goal.

It might be an update of the toy but its not an updated look of the character , This figure should have came out when the show was on tv .

Posted by Mindmaster on December 17th, 2013 @ 7:27pm CST
Poyguimogul wrote:
"Now Rhinox has Three "Classic" Toys"

Mindmaster:
"Three? You mean two?"

Poyguimogul:
"NEIN NIET NO!"

"Rhinox (US / JP) + Tankor is Rhinox in Beast Machines, He's EVIL!"

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

Thank you for proving my point.

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

then those who are never happy with anything dont deserve the satisfaction of enjoying the great work that they have done here, despite some of hasbro shortcomings these figures for the new generations line are truley awesome!

Ultra Markus wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

then those who are never happy with anything dont deserve the satisfaction of enjoying the great work that they have done here, despite some of hasbro shortcomings these figures for the new generations line are truley awesome!

Agreed. Has/Tak have done great things for the fans lately. First the new MP line beginning with MP-10 which brought us the absolute best, most show-accurate and real-world (for vehicle mode) accurate versions of the Generation 1 characters ever created, and now these Generations figures which give us the most show-accurate updates to the Beast Wars (and now Beast Machines too) characters we've ever gotten.

It's a great time to be a G1 fan (especially if your G1 is the same as Hasbro's, which includes Beast Wars and Beast Machines as a part of its continuity).

I'll be getting both Tankor and Rattrap and unless Takara takes care of it in their version of the figure, I will be painting Rattrap's weapons and bomb. I'm also going to take my snips to those snagly teeth of his in beast mode. Those things have got to go . As for Tankor's cannon, I might just see about replacing it with the one from the original Tank Drone figure. Assuming the size of it is sufficient. Otherwise I'll either live with it or look into doing some modding with my Dremel Tool.

Here's hoping they get around to doing many more Beast Wars and Beast Machines updates, and soon. I don't think I'll be collecting the next movie line, but if they keep it up with the Beast Era releases, I'll have no shortage of things to collect between those and the upcoming MPs.

I tell ya', the number of things I was hoping 3rd parties would do because I thought for certain that Has/Tak never would is steadily decreasing.

I don't collect BW figs, but that Rattrap fig is gorgeous.

As for the others, I'm not familiar with their respective characters, so I'm pretty much indifferent to the other two.

Just got & opened Waspinator ... Now I REALLY can't wait for Rattrap!!!

Tankor's robot mode is indeed perfectly show accurate. His tank mode is not, which I wouldn't mind if it still looked good, but it doesn't. It's pretty bloody weak to me.

Sodan-1 wrote:Tankor's robot mode is indeed perfectly show accurate. His tank mode is not, which I wouldn't mind if it still looked good, but it doesn't. It's pretty bloody weak to me.

Yeah, it does seem a bit too long and narrow. Although, since I've already got 4 of the Tank Drones from Beast Machines, I'll be keeping this on my shelf to represent Tankor in bot mode anyway so I don't really mind the discrepancy. The Tank Drone always did pull off a pretty much spot-on representation of him/his drones in vehicle mode on the show anyway. It was only the bot mode that ever bugged me because even with a bit of paint (which I did use), it still would need modification (if possible) to make it look show-accurate in bot mode, but aside from the cannon, this one really doesn't so I'm good with it. It's anyone's guess as to why they have him with the shoulder bits flipped up instead of flat against his arms in bot mode as they should be. I guess it's yet another case of he figure being (deliberately?) mis-transformed. I can tell this one's been hand-painted as well. Hopefully it will look close to this in the final product, although worse comes to worse I'm sure Takara will do what's needed to make it look right.

Could care less about Crosscut, it's basically just Skids with a new head. Maybe if he had that scooter thing the original version had, it'd be different.

Tankor... Is okay, but not great. That's never really been my favorite Vehicon design, and I'm not thrilled with how the thing that the cannon is mounted on looks in vehicle mode. It looks like the claws are articulated, though, which is nice.

Rattrap... Words fail me. It'd be nice if his gun(s) and "hot box" were colored, and I'd rather his beast mode face were more rodent-y and less fang-y, but those are very minor nitpicks. This is the gem of the wave. Hope his guns hide somewhere in beast mode, like Rhinox and Waspinator's do.

I've been calling the ROtf Whirl (blackout retool /Evac redco) Windmill for a while now, so im excitrd to get him his death buddy. And i have an Armada Nightbeat minicon set aside to be his little scooter buddy. (Is waiing for twnety customizers to now claim )his idea) Ttankor is a so so tank, but the figure looks fun so we'll see. Bet he becomes a cwnnonfodder. Guy for someone in Dark Cybertron to sell moree toys. I like Rattrap, but i hope his beast mode legs at least has a ahip swivrl and not four shellformer static legs.

Trikeboy wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

Thank you for proving my point.

How is that ? what i'm trying to get across is that all the classics line look like there characters from there show/old toys put with a few tweaks there not 100% show accurate they have been updated in some way keeping it looking fresh , Tankor seriously needed some tweaking he could have been an awesome figure.

I'm happy for those who are fans of tankor and the look of this figure but to me this might as well be a BM toy from the BM line .

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

Thank you for proving my point.

How is that ? what i'm trying to get across is that all the classics line look like there characters from there show/old toys put with a few tweaks there not 100% show accurate they have been updated in some way keeping it looking fresh , Tankor seriously needed some tweaking he could have been an awesome figure.

I'm happy for those who are fans of tankor and the look of this figure but to me this might as well be a BM toy from the BM line .

Works out great for me since I'll be putting him on my BM shelf with my BM figures as he'll fit right in .

Poyguimogul wrote:Posted by Mindmaster on December 17th, 2013 @ 7:27pm CST
Poyguimogul wrote:
"Now Rhinox has Three "Classic" Toys"

Mindmaster:
"Three? You mean two?"

Poyguimogul:
"NEIN NIET NO!"

"Rhinox (US / JP) + Tankor is Rhinox in Beast Machines, He's EVIL!"

Mindmaster's point is that since the Takara and Hasbro versions only differ due to paint differences, it's only 2 figures of Rhinox as there's only 2 molds for him.

Using your view, it still wouldn't be three, as there's little chance Takara won't do a version with differing paint apps.

I wonder how long before third parties make little scooters for Crosscut.

Autobot Genocide wrote:This is from the generations line right? the line that does updates of transformers characters .

No.

Generations has been around since 2010, and there have only been 10-15 straight-up "updated Transformers characters" in the toyline, maybe less.

Everyone else has been based on a current and completely different representation of the character. IDW, WFC/FoC, and so on.

Besides, we've already gotten four Transformers in Thrilling 30 who have been, in-effect, updates of the original toy. Why complain now?

P.S: Classics =/= Generations. Different toyline.

Not digging tankor, but then I never really liked the designs in Beast Machines. Rattrap and crosscut are going to be bought though. Rat Trap was the third Beast Wars I got (After Primal and Megs 2 pack) so that's a given. And I just like the cut of Crosscut's jib

Trikeboy wrote:More proof that Transformers fans are never happy. Hasbro gives us one of the most show accurate Tankor ever and people complain. The toy looks like it stepped out of the show.

Yeah, this is one of the most show-accurate toys they've made, so I'm surprised by the negative reaction.

This looks awesome! I'm buying everything. Pretty glad i didn't ebay an old Beast Wars rattrap. with that money I can get all three of these =D

Also isn't this wave 4?

wave one is
Bumbble, Orion, Megatron, Trailcutter

Wave two is
Skids, Wasp, Goldfire, dreadwing,

Wave three is
Scoop, skywarp, minicons, and starscream.

This makes it wave 4 no?