Older Model Black Camaro Spotted on Navajo Tribal Park in Monument Valley Transformers 4 Set

I realy hope that's not BEE!! I WANT HIM AS A CAMARO!? Or rather the right camaro!!

We´ve seen the new Optimus before, but it isn´t until now that he looks somewhat familiar, I think he´s based on an older design for movie 1.
No idea what the Camaro is, I have the feeling it´s just Marky Mark´s car in the movie.

Janus Prime wrote:We´ve seen the new Optimus before, but it isn´t until now that he looks somewhat familiar, I think he´s based on an older design for movie 1.
No idea what the Camaro is, I have the feeling it´s just Marky Mark´s car in the movie.

My thoughts exactly! they wouldn't alter bee thqt much?...would they?

DEMEXICONZ wrote: jesus this is getting worst by the hour in my opinion....

Fixed.......if you say so mindmaster but i know for a fact im not the only one complaining about mr. Flamo and hes new fast and rusty buddys but we'll see how this turns out i for one like the films bt can't help but to think this new thing is going the wrong direction....

Looking at the grill of the supposed Optimus, I can make out a very small Autobot badge. Barely. It appears that it is indeed Optimus's new form. Like I've said before, I prefer the old Peterbuilt model over this, but I can deal with it being this, just as I dealt with the first movie Optimus being different from the others.

On that note, I sincerely hope the flames will remain restricted to the movie franchise. I find them obnoxious and unethical.

megatronis wrote:I realy hope that's not BEE!! I WANT HIM AS A CAMARO!? Or rather the right camaro!!

Hasn't been confirmed as Bumblebee; there's hope.

Janus Prime wrote:No idea what the Camaro is, I have the feeling it´s just Marky Mark´s car in the movie.

Which could possibly be Bumblebee. Again, hasn't been confirmed, so we got time to speculate.

megatronis wrote:they wouldn't alter bee thqt much?...would they?

I'm pretty sure it's to be set several years after the events of Dark of the Moon, or like the newest Spiderman film, a complete reboot. Who knows?

Mindmaster wrote:Looking at the grill of the supposed Optimus, I can make out a very small Autobot badge. Barely. It appears that it is indeed Optimus's new form. Like I've said before, I prefer the old Peterbuilt model over this, but I can deal with it being this, just as I dealt with the first movie Optimus being different from the others.

On that note, I sincerely hope the flames will remain restricted to the movie franchise. I find them obnoxious and unethical.

megatronis wrote:I realy hope that's not BEE!! I WANT HIM AS A CAMARO!? Or rather the right camaro!!

Hasn't been confirmed as Bumblebee; there's hope.

Janus Prime wrote:No idea what the Camaro is, I have the feeling it´s just Marky Mark´s car in the movie.

Which could possibly be Bumblebee. Again, hasn't been confirmed, so we got time to speculate.

megatronis wrote:they wouldn't alter bee thqt much?...would they?

I'm pretty sure it's to be set several years after the events of Dark of the Moon, or like the newest Spiderman film, a complete reboot. Who knows?

Mark mark and may say one thing after another..bay tends to say its 4 years after DOTM MW saya its a complete reboot..might not truly find out till next year??

What's that hanging from the front of the Camaro, where a bumper would be?
Seeing how there's a noticeable lack of Bumblebee's trademark stripes, I'm doubtful this is him. Of course, the colors alone don't mean it's BB, as we've seen in DotM.

And how is a flame paintjob "unethical"? I get not liking them, but but implying they're morally wrong, whaaaaa?!

"Unethical" also doubles as "not in standards with profession" (dictionary.com).

Perhaps I should have worded that better. What I mean to say is that it doesn't look good on a character meant to be Optimus Prime, who, traditionally, is just a straight-up truck colored red and blue. Rodimus is different, seeing how his pre-Prime state had flames.

Ah, so aesthetically or artistically "wrong"? I can see that.

Yep, that's the gist of it.

is it so farfetched for that to be the new bumblebee? People are sick of the current BB so changing the alt mode makes sense. And since theres no way they would be allowed to make him into another brand/model vehicle they would be forced to go back to an older model.

Noideaforaname wrote:What's that hanging from the front of the Camaro, where a bumper would be?

Front air Dam or "splitter". Basicly a front wing designed to give the front of the car additional downforce. Given the cars wide body stance, it definatly fits with the "race car theme". So maybe it is just one of Mark Walberg's race cars.

Megatron Wolf wrote:is it so farfetched for that to be the new bumblebee? People are sick of the current BB so changing the alt mode makes sense. And since theres no way they would be allowed to make him into another brand/model vehicle they would be forced to go back to an older model.

Not far fetched at all. It would make sence given that we know the family has a racing back groud. So if Bee is involved with the family it makes sence that he would choose a new alt mode that was alittle more race inspired while still retaining his colors vehicle type that he's known for in the movies. I'm sure the next couple days will reviele quite a bit.

Mindmaster wrote:"Unethical" also doubles as "not in standards with profession" (dictionary.com).

Perhaps I should have worded that better. What I mean to say is that it doesn't look good on a character meant to be Optimus Prime, who, traditionally, is just a straight-up truck colored red and blue. Rodimus is different, seeing how his pre-Prime state had flames.

I think his flames fit him just fine. Help break up the standard red/blue paint scheme.

hinomars19 wrote:Micheal Bay the ultimate troll; 'Fans hated the flames, so let's make em' bigger!'

It's nice, just yeah, too blue. Shame the nose isn't red and the flames just spread from that. 'Cos let's face it, the flames are gonna stay now.

Haha! Bay is the ultimate troll... That theory makes the most sense to me.

That Bot wrote:Red looks bad on film, so it's a way for Prime to retain his iconic red chest/blue legs in robot mode without having a hard-to-film truck.

I don't really accept that. The damn things are CG'ed most of the time. And with today's amazing film equipment, I find it hard to believe a RED TRUCK is impossible to film (since, you know, this wouldn't be the FIRST movie appearance for a red f*cking truck ). Maybe against the sunset background? Jeeez... jazz it up in the final cut! They're selling car advertisement space like crazy - is it so hard to CG some red on a truck (assuming it really is impossible to film a red truck)?

Megatron Wolf wrote:thats horrible, this is transfomers not pimp my ride. The basic truck while a cool truck is terrible for prime & the giant flames just kill it. So much for new direction, had a little hope that this one would be set in reality not in bayland but so much for that.

This. Pimp my ride is approbo.

guarayakha wrote:Maybe red looks bad only in Michael Bay movies Inb4greenrodimus

Would a green Rodimus piss anyone off? At this point, I get the eerie feeling that a lot of you just don't care for consistency all that much. Let's just be happy that someone is filming Transformers at all, right?
When you say green Rodimus, I actually imagine a neon green repaint of classic Rodimus... and that wouldn't be so bad. I guess my mind would accept the new color scheme if the robo's/alt modes retained some of their classic goodness.

RiddlerJ wrote:What's the point in their names? It's not like they're going to resemble their previous counterparts in any fashion anyway. Might as well call them Flippy and Floppy.

PLEASE EMAIL BAY RIGHT NOW!!!! +1 on those two names!!!! I LOVE THEM!!!! Somehow, Flippy and Floppy seem more appropriate than Drift and ... yeah.

Hardspark wrote:I mean - The franchise is certainly in need of the money to the point when it will affect the character choices and vehicles sooooooooooo much aren't they?

Disappointed.

Again.

I get the same impression... that the car sponsors are deciding the movie more than even Bay... I mean, does he make a list of possible characters, email a bunch of car companies and then wait patiently for some checks??? It makes writing a movie a lot easier, I suppose...

Manterax Prime wrote:Really? Well, say hello to more shelf warmers.

DUDE! WHAT??? Bumblebee warming shelves?!?! That's just crazy talk! The kids LOVE Bumblebee and everyone but you knows it. Quit trolling this thread. Now I'm going back to my game of Sarcastiball. Awesome.

Meantoy wrote:As a actual truck driver all i can say is wtf is that ugly pos. Worst looking starcar ive ever saw. never really liked the new areo look that truck manufactuers are going, looks like a flamed out pimp my ride ghetto space shuttle. Hopefully this is more of Bays prerelease lies. Dont change prime from the pete to this crap.

I was waiting for a truck-drivin'-hater. Cause me thinks to me'self, "Doesn't this hideous truck offend actual professionals? I'm pretty sure Bay is sh*tting all over the profession..." Well, I think the job is incomplete. Everyone knows that big trucks like this have rodeo clowns painted on the mudflaps. And drop-down blow-up dolls in the passenger seat (for carpool lanes! And other porpoises, I suppose ). Ehhhh, no, I think the flames are worse than all of that...

DEMEXICONZ wrote:

DEMEXICONZ wrote: jesus this is getting worst by the hour in my opinion....

Fixed.......if you say so mindmaster but i know for a fact im not the only one complaining about mr. Flamo and hes new fast and rusty buddys but we'll see how this turns out i for one like the films bt can't help but to think this new thing is going the wrong direction....

I'll back you up. Mr. Flam-o sucks-o!

Honestly....the best lookin car in the bunch. Just sayin.

I've always preferred this generation of Camaro over the one originally sported by Bumblebee.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but it needs more yellow.

MGrotusque wrote:Honestly....the best lookin car in the bunch. Just sayin.

totally. If Mr Bay is listening, I WANT THAT CAR AS A DECENT TRANSFORMER. PLUS MECHTECH IS HORRIBLE. STOP THAT.

Not feeling that new Optimus.... how would a driver even see the road or back up in that thing? Not to mention the toy's backpack kibble will probably be even larger now due to this things bloated size, unless they do something along the lines of FE Prime Optimus with the mold, which would be awesome
As for the rusty old truck, my guess is Bay is using it as the butt of a joke involving Optimus's new alt mode similarly to the whole yellow Volkswagen at the car lot with Camaro Bumblebee in the first movie.
Also just a guess, but I would say the classic Camaro seen in these pics is either the race driver character's car or if its an Autobot it will most likely be before they scan another alt mode since I doubt they would use a vehicle for a main character that they couldn't get a promotional deal with a manufacturer for a currently available model. Technically speaking even the new Optimus is advertising for a truck company, even if he is a heavy modded custom. Once again, just all my conjecture based on what we have seen from the previous films, will be interesting to see what really happens

yey. more car pics...

This all great news BUT... Where is HOUND?????? I am hoping that was not a rumor

The older model Camaro seen at the Transformers 4 set in the Navajo Tribal Park in Monument Valley has been officially confirmed as Bumblebee! Director Michael Bay's official website has announced that Bumblebee's new vehicle mode is a highly modified, vintage 1967 Camaro SS. Check out the official image below.

Well, halfway didn't see that coming.

Like the 67 Camaro. But Bee? Why go backwards, seeing as he was a new Camaro already. Hmmmmm........

Great. Well. Anyone taking bets on how long this will peg warm and be repainted?

I'm actually really pumped about Bee's new alt mode, it's one of my favorite muscle cars and the new color scheme is icing on the cake.

Doubledealer93 wrote:Great. Well. Anyone taking bets on how long this will peg warm and be repainted?

when we get list who is in first wave its nice to see him in black like to hear bay explain bee downgrade.

hasbro keep bumblebee at one per wave two if you have dont over do it with four per case, / endles of repaints

It would be insane if that rusty car is Ultra Magnus... I wouldn't be suprised considering he was scrapped for the third movie I believe.

I like Bumblbee's new look. Maybe a tad more yellow. A thin line going through the left and right sides of the car will do it for me.

I just want to see the robot modes already! It's definitely going to take a little time though. It would be nice if Bee has a voice in this movie but I don't think that is going to happen. Considering not being able to speak is his new gimmick.

It isn't a big deal to me. We just need more focus on the Transformers this time around.

El Duque wrote:The older model Camaro seen at the Transformers 4 set in the Navajo Tribal Park in Monument Valley has been officially confirmed as Bumblebee! Director Michael Bay's official website has announced that Bumblebee's new vehicle mode is a highly modified, vintage 1967 Camaro SS. Check out the official image below.

Bad. Ass. Almost makes up for Prime's shitty new alt mode. Almost.

Also, Magnus wasn't exactly "scrapped" from DotM, Sentinel Prime was originally going to be called Ultra Magnus, but then they changed it. They thought Magnus was too much of a goody-2-shoes to be a turncoat.

But if he was that rusty old cab-over? It'd be cool. Personally, I wish it was Grimlock. I really don't want to see a mechanical dinosaur. Not sure why.

well thats one step in the right direction, now we just have to hope his tranformation/robot mode is different. Still doesnt make up for Prims horrible alt mode, And i would accept that old cabover as magnus as long as he has his trailer and it looks like magnus. Hopefully its not Galvatron

Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, Magnus wasn't exactly "scrapped" from DotM, Sentinel Prime was originally going to be called Ultra Magnus, but then they changed it. They thought Magnus was too much of a goody-2-shoes to be a turncoat.

Source for why they changed the name?

Shockwave and Megatron were labelled "Blitzwing" and "Cyclonus" in concept art, despite their identity being blatantly obvious. I could see them doing the same for Sentinel.

Noideaforaname wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, Magnus wasn't exactly "scrapped" from DotM, Sentinel Prime was originally going to be called Ultra Magnus, but then they changed it. They thought Magnus was too much of a goody-2-shoes to be a turncoat.

Source for why they changed the name?

Shockwave and Megatron were labelled "Blitzwing" and "Cyclonus" in concept art, despite their identity being blatantly obvious. I could see them doing the same for Sentinel.

Maybe. It was in the extras on the limited movie trilogy set blu ray for DoTM. I watched it when I 1st got it, haven't seen it since. But Sentinel was clearly called Ultra Magnus in pre-production. I recall them saying they changed it so Magnus's "character wasn't tarnished." Or something like that.

'Murica!

welcometothedarksyde wrote:'Murica!

Is that a word?

I don't get why everybodys hating on OP's alt mode. Bay said it would be a massive revamp for all the characters, and optimus got the biggest revamp. I personally think its a great looking mode, and absolutely need to see the robot mode ASAP.

And youll never hear me say this again, but HASBRO, I want a leader Bumblebee.

njb902 wrote:

welcometothedarksyde wrote:'Murica!

Is that a word?

More or less. Some redneck came up with the term trying to make the word "America" sound tougher. It's caught on ever since, and it's got it's own little meme and series of jokes & gags.

KnightStrike wrote:
As for the rusty old truck, my guess is Bay is using it as the butt of a joke involving Optimus's new alt mode similarly to the whole yellow Volkswagen at the car lot with Camaro Bumblebee in the first movie.

Couldn't help thinking that myself

Very strange 'Bee has gone 'backwards'...still I guess maybe they are aiming for car enthusiasts? He looks a bit like TFP Cliffjumper though...maybe it's a round-a-bout homage and now 'Bee is kinda like a re-paint of an original Cliff mold?
Hey, it'd be kinda cool of he transformed like TFP Cliff. It'd be closer to that classic Bumblebee transformation and less like Jazz etc.

Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Yeah because Shelfwarmers make loads of money

I hate to say it but BB is the best car of the bunch and the most logical of all the cars that we've seen so far in regards to the RID theme. I'm glad they went this route with him instead of amping him up into some super flashy pimped out retardedness.

Gotta say that old-school Camo is nice.
It has character. That's what I like about old and used stuff. They've seen life. Heck, even both of my leather-jackets are second-handed. That thing looks good for Bee.

I just hope they FINALLY get Bee talking, not through the radio.

leokearon wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Yeah because Shelfwarmers make loads of money

Shelfwarming is not Hasbro's fault; the blame is the stores and retailers for overstocking them with the idea that popular characters sell better than mainline characters.

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Yeah because Shelfwarmers make loads of money

Shelfwarming is not Hasbro's fault; the blame is the stores and retailers for overstocking them with the idea that popular chara
cters sell better than mainline characters.

But hasbros the one that puts out 27 repaints of bee instead of figs the fans want

megatronis wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Yeah because Shelfwarmers make loads of money

Shelfwarming is not Hasbro's fault; the blame is the stores and retailers for overstocking them with the idea that popular chara
cters sell better than mainline characters.

But hasbros the one that puts out 27 repaints of bee instead of figs the fans want

Ah, but what if I told you that there are some fans that did want them?

Mindmaster wrote:

megatronis wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

leokearon wrote:Optimus and Bumblebee, so much for new cast

Like Hasbro is going to do away with their prime moneymaking characters in the Transformers franchise.

Yeah because Shelfwarmers make loads of money

Shelfwarming is not Hasbro's fault; the blame is the stores and retailers for overstocking them with the idea that popular chara
cters sell better than mainline characters.

But hasbros the one that puts out 27 repaints of bee instead of figs the fans want

Ah, but what if I told you that there are some fans that did want them?

THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE !!
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How about a few more vehicle images from the Transformers 4 set in Monument Park? DailyMail.UK has posted a trio of new images featuring the Autobot crew, including a couple of previously unseen vehicles. The first group shot image includes what appears to be an emergency vehicle (see the barely visible light bar) bringing up the rear and a larger military vehicle in the middle of the pack. All the other vehicles in the shot are confirmed Autobots, could these also be new characters or perhaps just human vehicles. Images mirrored below.

Update: We have a closer look at the large green military vehicle courtesy of Instagram user donnieboy_09.

Optimus is going to be huge in bot mode. Also could the other large vehicle be bulkhead perhaps?

First-Aid, Ratchet, or Prowl?

As for the military vehicle, I've no idea, other than suggest Brawn or Bulkhead. Maybe even Hound.

njb902 wrote:Optimus is going to be huge in bot mode. Also could the other large vehicle be bulkhead perhaps?

I could see bulk being that..however i think it would work better for a con...but if those pics mean anything i guess he's a bot

One word: OOOoooWWwweeeeeeEE

Prime really could use a trailer or something of sorts at the back just to balance him a bit. He kinda reminds me of G2 hero Op, so just a little bit of something at the back. C'mon, it's a bay movie, surely Optimus packin' a missile could've been accepted

Is it too easy for the emergency vehicle to be Ratchet?
The big one being Bulkhead? Hmmm...possible given he's a popular known character of the minute. Not sure I'd like that though. Bulk is easily one of my fave TF characters...so it's worrisome what could get done to him. Although Prime and Ratchet have always been good characters in these movies (what little we get, I know )