Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade
Tuesday, April 18th, 2017 10:16PM CDT
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Barricade is a fun character to get again in a movie toyline since he is movie original and has had decent-very good toys ever since the first film. Below are my thoughts on the new figure in a pictorial review followed by fellow Seibertronian Chuckdawg's thoughts in a video review. Our opinions could not be more different.
I will start by being very blunt: I think this figure sucks. If this is the best this line has to offer with its deluxes, which is what I am hearing from other reviewers, then we are in for a rough ride. Simply said, he is a basic and lazy shell-former. The transformation is nothing new, it's very similar to deluxe Drift from Age of Extinction but without any ingenuity that figure had like the folding doors to reveal new robot detail.
Instead we just get a plain figure where kibble just hangs out. He is far from being as sleek as any character model has shown us and in fact looks nothing like his character model.
I was going to say maybe the head looks similar but they do something super odd where the head is made of two pieces and the piece in the back is a dull beige plastic. I have no clue why they couldn't use the same plastic colour as the front of the head. It looks odd and cheap.
A lot of the problems stem from the simplicity of the figure which results in a terrible looking back, which totally invades the front. There is almost no transformation or deco to the legs, which have the outline of the wheels showing in robot mode, making it look like he has super weird calves.
The backpack is as bad as it gets with shell-formers, taking up the height of the figure, basically, but what bothers me is that it doesn't peg into anything at the top.
Another thing, this figure is puny. Here he is next to Kup.
That Kup cost me $15 USD while Baricade cost me $22 USD (current MSRP for both lines in Canada). This figure just makes me appreciate my Kup even more now.
I do like his knuckles though.
The weapons are ok and I do like that they can be stored in alt mode.
Another thing to note, this toy is not based on any specific car since there is no licensing. Here is a shot of the back of the box where you can see the amount of steps it should take.
So that was my opinion with the photos showing you what I am talking about. Chuckdawg had a very different opinion and here it is below!
I will start by being very blunt: I think this figure sucks. If this is the best this line has to offer with its deluxes, which is what I am hearing from other reviewers, then we are in for a rough ride. Simply said, he is a basic and lazy shell-former. The transformation is nothing new, it's very similar to deluxe Drift from Age of Extinction but without any ingenuity that figure had like the folding doors to reveal new robot detail.
Instead we just get a plain figure where kibble just hangs out. He is far from being as sleek as any character model has shown us and in fact looks nothing like his character model.
I was going to say maybe the head looks similar but they do something super odd where the head is made of two pieces and the piece in the back is a dull beige plastic. I have no clue why they couldn't use the same plastic colour as the front of the head. It looks odd and cheap.
A lot of the problems stem from the simplicity of the figure which results in a terrible looking back, which totally invades the front. There is almost no transformation or deco to the legs, which have the outline of the wheels showing in robot mode, making it look like he has super weird calves.
The backpack is as bad as it gets with shell-formers, taking up the height of the figure, basically, but what bothers me is that it doesn't peg into anything at the top.
Another thing, this figure is puny. Here he is next to Kup.
That Kup cost me $15 USD while Baricade cost me $22 USD (current MSRP for both lines in Canada). This figure just makes me appreciate my Kup even more now.
I do like his knuckles though.
The weapons are ok and I do like that they can be stored in alt mode.
Another thing to note, this toy is not based on any specific car since there is no licensing. Here is a shot of the back of the box where you can see the amount of steps it should take.
So that was my opinion with the photos showing you what I am talking about. Chuckdawg had a very different opinion and here it is below!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:While Barricade's transformation is not perfect, it's not as fiddly as it could be. The best part is the wide assortment of accessories, I especially like the Autobot beating stick. If you're going to buy one figure from the first wave of The Last Knight Deluxe Class, make it Barricade.
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Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875377)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
For voyager Megatron? Hell YEAH! Right here, right now!
As for the rest, I'll wait for the usual sale. Even if that "sale" will just bring back the prices at normal levels.
Still, that new Hound is mighty tempting too...
So far however, none of the deluxes interest me.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Lo and behold, I'll go to my local Walmart tomorrow and all I'll find will be a barren wasteland.
You ready to spend $40 on a voyager and $30 on a deluxe?
For voyager Megatron? Hell YEAH! Right here, right now!
As for the rest, I'll wait for the usual sale. Even if that "sale" will just bring back the prices at normal levels.
Still, that new Hound is mighty tempting too...
So far however, none of the deluxes interest me.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875378)
Posted by william-james88 on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
Ok so then it doesnt matter if your walmart will have those figures tomorrow or not then.
The voyagers you want are only coming in like 2 months.
Posted by william-james88 on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Lo and behold, I'll go to my local Walmart tomorrow and all I'll find will be a barren wasteland.
You ready to spend $40 on a voyager and $30 on a deluxe?
For voyager Megatron? Hell YEAH! Right here, right now!
As for the rest, I'll wait for the usual sale. Even if that "sale" will just bring back the prices at normal levels.
Still, that new Hound is mighty tempting too...
So far however, none of the deluxes interest me.
Ok so then it doesnt matter if your walmart will have those figures tomorrow or not then.
The voyagers you want are only coming in like 2 months.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875382)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CDT
Oh.
Well, thanks, you saved me a trip.
Optimus Prime seem like a fantastic mold, but I have enough of him already and I'll eather wait for it to be 20$, or if some super special repaint ever come out. Based on Evasion Prime, this is very likely.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 18th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Lo and behold, I'll go to my local Walmart tomorrow and all I'll find will be a barren wasteland.
You ready to spend $40 on a voyager and $30 on a deluxe?
For voyager Megatron? Hell YEAH! Right here, right now!
As for the rest, I'll wait for the usual sale. Even if that "sale" will just bring back the prices at normal levels.
Still, that new Hound is mighty tempting too...
So far however, none of the deluxes interest me.
Ok so then it doesnt matter if your walmart will have those figures tomorrow or not then.
The voyagers you want are only coming in like 2 months.
Oh.
Well, thanks, you saved me a trip.
Optimus Prime seem like a fantastic mold, but I have enough of him already and I'll eather wait for it to be 20$, or if some super special repaint ever come out. Based on Evasion Prime, this is very likely.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875404)
Posted by noctorro on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:28am CDT
Posted by noctorro on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:28am CDT
Offtopic:
Anybody else creeped out by the giant letters official productions ceo apple evil corp in the pictures?
Anybody else creeped out by the giant letters official productions ceo apple evil corp in the pictures?
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875407)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:41am CDT
Okay, yep, follwing you...
Yeah, I got...you just...I don't...what?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:41am CDT
noctorro wrote:Offtopic:
Anybody else creeped out by the giant
Okay, yep, follwing you...
letters official productions ceo apple evil corp in the pictures?
Yeah, I got...you just...I don't...what?
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875411)
Posted by WreckerJack on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:08am CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:08am CDT
Optimus' face needs more painted details. Looks weird that it's all grey.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875422)
Posted by King Kuuga on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:45am CDT
So hey buddy, it looks like your pictures were hosted on Discord. It looks like they don't allow external access to their files, so all your embedded reference pics just showed up as broken links. I even followed the URL and only got an error message. I suggest hosting your pictures on Imgur or another site if they're too big to upload straight to Seibertron.
Posted by King Kuuga on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:45am CDT
AgentK2 wrote:Lots of text and broken pictures
So hey buddy, it looks like your pictures were hosted on Discord. It looks like they don't allow external access to their files, so all your embedded reference pics just showed up as broken links. I even followed the URL and only got an error message. I suggest hosting your pictures on Imgur or another site if they're too big to upload straight to Seibertron.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875435)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:13am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:13am CDT
Eh I dunno. Still looks better to me than that TItans Kup he's pictured with (liking Takara's Kup so much more). Kup avoids having bulky back pack by simply turning into a made up sci fi shoe-car with no roof. 
I'd quite like to get painting some lil details on this Barricade but yes some of the car kibble could have been made to fold up more to improve it but I still like the look of it. I'd paint the back of his head like I do with some of my figures anyways to block the lightpiping they have (I hate lightpiping, just paint the damn eyes the colour they're supposed to be!)
I'd quite like to get painting some lil details on this Barricade but yes some of the car kibble could have been made to fold up more to improve it but I still like the look of it. I'd paint the back of his head like I do with some of my figures anyways to block the lightpiping they have (I hate lightpiping, just paint the damn eyes the colour they're supposed to be!)
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875441)
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:29am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:29am CDT
He doesnt have any lightpiping.
And his car mode is also made up. There is no license.
And his car mode is also made up. There is no license.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875442)
Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:38am CDT
Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:38am CDT
I can see myself not getting much of this line. Which is fine, as far as movie figures go I've become VERY selective.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875444)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:39am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:39am CDT
Oh. That's disappointing. If he didn't have that backpack or if it folded up better (see Battle Blade Bumblebee) he'd look OK, but with that whole non-compressible vehicle roof on his back...Nah. A shame as his movie design (from what we've seen of it) and aesthetic concept is pretty awesome. Nightstick, shotgun mandala and "Protect and Serve" knuckledusters? Hell yeah! What a pity they got translated to such a crappy figure.
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Posted by Galva Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:48am CDT
Posted by Galva Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:48am CDT
I'd say Barricade and Optimus are the weakest of all the new moulds so this is not indicative of how good the entire line's going to be. You only have to look at both Megatrons and Scorn to see that they're better than the the Barrcade mould. Not sure why he's so simplified when others in the line transform in more steps. Perhaps it's because he comes with more accessories. Still, it wouldn't have hurt them to actually but the doors on his arms and maybe have the chest transform a bit more to show his badge in the middle.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875447)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:55am CDT
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:55am CDT
i took the backpack off of barricade and it makes him soo much better.
he does have a lot of paint on him or a finish of some type
he does have a lot of paint on him or a finish of some type
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875453)
Posted by Ig89ninja on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
Wait wait wait, the backpack is removable? If so I'll might actually get this figure
Posted by Ig89ninja on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:52am CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:i took the backpack off of barricade and it makes him soo much better.
he does have a lot of paint on him or a finish of some type
Wait wait wait, the backpack is removable? If so I'll might actually get this figure
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875456)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:57am CDT
yes
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:57am CDT
Ig89ninja wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:i took the backpack off of barricade and it makes him soo much better.
he does have a lot of paint on him or a finish of some type
Wait wait wait, the backpack is removable? If so I'll might actually get this figure
yes
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875458)
Posted by EmirateXaaron on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:59am CDT
Posted by EmirateXaaron on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:59am CDT
Argh, sorry for taking so long to get back here. I was unable to revisit the TRU during my stay in Indiana, as I had Easter events to attend with family. Though, I'd say they were stock that was accidentally put out early, if the other experiences here are anything to go by. I might be able to ask a friend that's staying down there to give it a try, though.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875461)
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 8:19am CDT
I totally agree with it being odd that Barricade is simplified when the other new molds seem to go back to the ROTF complexity. That Voyager Optimus is super complex (almost annoyingly so, especially with those damn truck panels on the arms).
And while I like your optimism on megatron and the other new molds, these two and berserker are the only ones we have so far for new molds. We didnt handle the other ones yet so we cant know for sure. There are a bunch of cool looking toys which end up being dissapointing once we have them in hand (Leader Grimlock from the previous movie is a good example). I am hoping thats not the case with any of these but the only ones we have been able to handle so far arent that great. Thats pretty much all I meant.
Its the metallic plastic used that gives it a nice looking finish.
Its not intentional. Like how his arms and head are also removeable since they are on ball joints. Removing the backpack just means your shell-former became a partformer, yay.
Its been days, so forget that for now. We will news when the line is made available monday.
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 8:19am CDT
Galva Prime wrote:I'd say Barricade and Optimus are the weakest of all the new moulds so this is not indicative of how good the entire line's going to be. You only have to look at both Megatrons and Scorn to see that they're better than the the Barrcade mould. Not sure why he's so simplified when others in the line transform in more steps. Perhaps it's because he comes with more accessories. Still, it wouldn't have hurt them to actually but the doors on his arms and maybe have the chest transform a bit more to show his badge in the middle.
I totally agree with it being odd that Barricade is simplified when the other new molds seem to go back to the ROTF complexity. That Voyager Optimus is super complex (almost annoyingly so, especially with those damn truck panels on the arms).
And while I like your optimism on megatron and the other new molds, these two and berserker are the only ones we have so far for new molds. We didnt handle the other ones yet so we cant know for sure. There are a bunch of cool looking toys which end up being dissapointing once we have them in hand (Leader Grimlock from the previous movie is a good example). I am hoping thats not the case with any of these but the only ones we have been able to handle so far arent that great. Thats pretty much all I meant.
Bumblebee21 wrote:i took the backpack off of barricade and it makes him soo much better.
he does have a lot of paint on him or a finish of some type
Its the metallic plastic used that gives it a nice looking finish.
Ig89ninja wrote:Wait wait wait, the backpack is removable? If so I'll might actually get this figure
Its not intentional. Like how his arms and head are also removeable since they are on ball joints. Removing the backpack just means your shell-former became a partformer, yay.
EmirateXaaron wrote:Argh, sorry for taking so long to get back here. I was unable to revisit the TRU during my stay in Indiana, as I had Easter events to attend with family. Though, I'd say they were stock that was accidentally put out early, if the other experiences here are anything to go by. I might be able to ask a friend that's staying down there to give it a try, though.
Its been days, so forget that for now. We will news when the line is made available monday.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875534)
Posted by Va'al on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
After some first look images we got a while ago from Argos UK for Transformers: The Last Knight toys, we now also have a confirmed sighting of the figures on the shelves in other retailers! The following proof comes from fellow Seibertronian Crankcase79 and the Smyths in Birstall, Leeds - check out the display of £22.49/$29 USD Deluxes (lotsa Barricades), One-Steps, Turbo Changers - regular and Tiny - and more, and use our Sightings database anywhere in the world to help out local collectors too!
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875537)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CDT
I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875543)
Posted by Ravage XK on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
Are deluxe class figures worth £22.49? These seem to have shot up in price.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875551)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
Still bit cheaper than what The Entertainer stores have been selling Titans Return Deluxes at (£22.99) I even questioned them on that and they tried to tell me that if I've found them cheaper else where it's just been a reduced sale promotion in those other places. Bulllllllllll...
ANyways I'm heading to Cambridge next Monday and hoping they'll have in the new toys and mainly Voyager Prime.
ANyways I'm heading to Cambridge next Monday and hoping they'll have in the new toys and mainly Voyager Prime.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875553)
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
Oh man, if Voyager Megs dissapointed you, I have no clue how this guy wont
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want
Oh man, if Voyager Megs dissapointed you, I have no clue how this guy wont
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875558)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:15pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:15pm CDT
£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.
Re: Pictorial and Video Review for Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Barricade (1875559)
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.
It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.
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Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CDT
Oh ye gods. This is getting silly. Like, if they were charging that much but giving us RTS/HFTD level engineering then yeah, I could stomach it. I don't mind paying for quality, hence why I buy 3P stuff. But the fact we're getting "meh" at best figures for nearly double the price is disgraceful. 7 years ago and that Barricade's roof would have folded up practically out of sight, AND he'd cost half the price.
I get that production costs have risen, I really do. But price should reflect quality. If they're going to charge such an extortionate amount of money then they should pass that to the consumer with better engineering, paint and QC. They're one of the biggest toy companies in the world, I'm sure it wouldn't put them out of business to give us slightly less awful backpacks.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Black Hat wrote:£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.
It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.
Oh ye gods. This is getting silly. Like, if they were charging that much but giving us RTS/HFTD level engineering then yeah, I could stomach it. I don't mind paying for quality, hence why I buy 3P stuff. But the fact we're getting "meh" at best figures for nearly double the price is disgraceful. 7 years ago and that Barricade's roof would have folded up practically out of sight, AND he'd cost half the price.
I get that production costs have risen, I really do. But price should reflect quality. If they're going to charge such an extortionate amount of money then they should pass that to the consumer with better engineering, paint and QC. They're one of the biggest toy companies in the world, I'm sure it wouldn't put them out of business to give us slightly less awful backpacks.
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Posted by Cobotron on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CDT
You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?
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Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
that and theres a bit more paint added.
what about voyager prime and berserker.
he is a really good figure
Posted by Bumblebee21 on April 19th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?
that and theres a bit more paint added.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want
what about voyager prime and berserker.
he is a really good figure
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:00pm CDT
Voyager Optimus has ROTF level of engineering and a decent amount of paint (just in the wrong places).
I dont think 3p is a fair comparison when talking about what you get for the price. 3p's higher price isnt dependent on parts count or enginnering (especially when their workforce is paid less than hasbro's), its due to not using economies of scale. There are garbage 3p figures out there that still cost a bunch, I really wouldnt compare the two here.
Whats weird is that only deluxes have nice new packaging while voyagers were already in a box so the packaging doesnt explain the price hike. The difference is that Hasbro has probably been making less money on generations figures but since they all share a similar price point, they couldnt raise the prices (especially since TRU uses the same code for all deluxes no matter the wave). So this brand new line is a chance to bump up the price point and make up for loss, capitalizing on the popularity of movie lines.
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:00pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Like, if they were charging that much but giving us RTS/HFTD level engineering then yeah, I could stomach it.
Voyager Optimus has ROTF level of engineering and a decent amount of paint (just in the wrong places).
I don't mind paying for quality, hence why I buy 3P stuff.
I dont think 3p is a fair comparison when talking about what you get for the price. 3p's higher price isnt dependent on parts count or enginnering (especially when their workforce is paid less than hasbro's), its due to not using economies of scale. There are garbage 3p figures out there that still cost a bunch, I really wouldnt compare the two here.
Cobotron wrote:You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?
Whats weird is that only deluxes have nice new packaging while voyagers were already in a box so the packaging doesnt explain the price hike. The difference is that Hasbro has probably been making less money on generations figures but since they all share a similar price point, they couldnt raise the prices (especially since TRU uses the same code for all deluxes no matter the wave). So this brand new line is a chance to bump up the price point and make up for loss, capitalizing on the popularity of movie lines.
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Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
Oh? That's interesting to know. I look forward to your expanded thoughts on him.
Yeah, that wasn't the best comparison I've ever made. I wasn't really directly comparing the two FWIW so much as just using them as an example of "I don't dislike expensive figures just because they're expensive". Maybe a better example would be import toys like Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech etc.
Posted by Evil Eye on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
Voyager Optimus has ROTF level of engineering and a decent amount of paint (just in the wrong places).
Oh? That's interesting to know. I look forward to your expanded thoughts on him.
I dont think 3p is a fair comparison when talking about what you get for the price. 3p's higher price isnt dependent on parts count or enginnering (especially when their workforce is paid less than hasbro's), its due to not using economies of scale. There are garbage 3p figures out there that still cost a bunch, I really wouldnt compare the two here.
Yeah, that wasn't the best comparison I've ever made. I wasn't really directly comparing the two FWIW so much as just using them as an example of "I don't dislike expensive figures just because they're expensive". Maybe a better example would be import toys like Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech etc.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:16pm CDT
I may get those 2 at a later date, but Barricade is the only one I really want. The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:16pm CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I hope Barricade will be in stores here soon. I'm really looking forward to him and he is the one figure from wave 1 I want
what about voyager prime and berserker.
he is a really good figure
I may get those 2 at a later date, but Barricade is the only one I really want. The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:21pm CDT
yeah, I hear you now. Like those people who buy those Soul of Chockogin stuff (sorry for the mispelling).
I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:21pm CDT
Black Hat wrote: Maybe a better example would be import toys like Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech etc.
yeah, I hear you now. Like those people who buy those Soul of Chockogin stuff (sorry for the mispelling).
D-Maximus_Prime wrote: The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line
I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?
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Posted by Emerje on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
He didn't say Barricade had light piping.
But I do think that for the back of his head to be gray they must have intended for the eyes to be light piped at some point, but decided to go with paint instead, probably because they already had clear plastic on the windows. Why the would decide to move the back of the head to the gray plastic instead of the black is anyone's guess.
And BTW, there's a huge difference between a car that obviously couldn't be real and very scifi and able to have a free-form transformation, and a car that looks like it could be real and has to conform to that with its transformation. Of course there's a right way and a wrong way to do the later and it doesn't look like Barricade was done the right way. I sure hope Barricade isn't a repeat of what we saw with Generations in 2012 when the prices went up and the figures became smaller and simpler compared to the two years of Generations prior.
I feel like the only figures I'll be getting this time are the Leader and Voyager Megatrons and Voyager Prime if they make a better painted one somewhere. Oh, and the Prime Abominus repaints, gotta have those.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:He doesnt have any lightpiping.
And his car mode is also made up. There is no license.
He didn't say Barricade had light piping.
But I do think that for the back of his head to be gray they must have intended for the eyes to be light piped at some point, but decided to go with paint instead, probably because they already had clear plastic on the windows. Why the would decide to move the back of the head to the gray plastic instead of the black is anyone's guess. And BTW, there's a huge difference between a car that obviously couldn't be real and very scifi and able to have a free-form transformation, and a car that looks like it could be real and has to conform to that with its transformation. Of course there's a right way and a wrong way to do the later and it doesn't look like Barricade was done the right way. I sure hope Barricade isn't a repeat of what we saw with Generations in 2012 when the prices went up and the figures became smaller and simpler compared to the two years of Generations prior.
I feel like the only figures I'll be getting this time are the Leader and Voyager Megatrons and Voyager Prime if they make a better painted one somewhere. Oh, and the Prime Abominus repaints, gotta have those.
Emerje
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:23pm CDT
The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:23pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote: The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line
I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?
The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review
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Posted by Kurona on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:32pm CDT
The prices are nothing less than disgraceful; it's completely put me off getting anything from this line. I just hope it won't also apply to Power of the Primes and whatever follows RiD...
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Posted by Galva Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by Galva Prime on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
I see they only forgot the main part of Grimlock's transformation on the instructions…
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:42pm CDT
I am glad I couldnt bring you down then, stay strong brother (and remember that Sixshot was recieved with great reviews too).
That was the FOC stuff right? How they were way simpler than WFC?
For this line, we can already confirm that its very similar with the deluxes. Sure, there are probably some that are complex, like Berserker and maybe the new Bee, but barricade is simple, Steelbane is pretty simple, Sqweeks is small with accessories, and then the rest are all repaints and retools (unless I missed one).
So crosshairs, slash, slug, first BB, strafe and Drift are all retools or repaints being resold 3 years later for 5$ more than their previous release.
So looking at these facts, looks like it is going that route and the price increase is arbitrary to the effort in releasing these toys. but like I said earlier, I think its to make up for the loss of having to stick to a price point for the generations toys while the cost of production increased. So this is a big bang meant to recuperate loss.
I just dont know if this will be to help finance and maintain the lower price point in other lines or if it will be a new price point for transformers classes from here on out in future lines.
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 2:42pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote: The reviews kinda soured Beserker for me and Prime is one of those things that I don't really need and I believe will be readily available down the line
I know I sound like I am making myself important, but now you got me curious. Did my review not sour you over Barricade?
The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review
I am glad I couldnt bring you down then, stay strong brother (and remember that Sixshot was recieved with great reviews too).
Emerje wrote:I sure hope Barricade isn't a repeat of what we saw with Generations in 2012 when the prices went up and the figures became smaller and simpler compared to the two years of Generations prior.
That was the FOC stuff right? How they were way simpler than WFC?
For this line, we can already confirm that its very similar with the deluxes. Sure, there are probably some that are complex, like Berserker and maybe the new Bee, but barricade is simple, Steelbane is pretty simple, Sqweeks is small with accessories, and then the rest are all repaints and retools (unless I missed one).
So crosshairs, slash, slug, first BB, strafe and Drift are all retools or repaints being resold 3 years later for 5$ more than their previous release.
So looking at these facts, looks like it is going that route and the price increase is arbitrary to the effort in releasing these toys. but like I said earlier, I think its to make up for the loss of having to stick to a price point for the generations toys while the cost of production increased. So this is a big bang meant to recuperate loss.
I just dont know if this will be to help finance and maintain the lower price point in other lines or if it will be a new price point for transformers classes from here on out in future lines.
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Posted by nemesis primus on April 19th, 2017 @ 3:30pm CDT
Posted by nemesis primus on April 19th, 2017 @ 3:30pm CDT
There are placeholders for them at Argos at the minute, voyagers only so far as I saw. If you look for Optimus in the search bar or Megatron or Grimlock you'll find all three, instore only. The online search doesn't work for them yet. Optimus' stock number is 673-4349 and due sometime between the 24th and 30th this month.
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Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CDT
If the same happens in Australia, I can see a lot of deluxes not selling. It's not like voyagers fly off the shelves here.
Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Black Hat wrote:£22.49?!?!?!? That's as much as a Generations Voyager used to cost! That's just shameful.
It happened in canada too, our deluxes just jumped to the voyager price point with this line. Its nuts.
If the same happens in Australia, I can see a lot of deluxes not selling. It's not like voyagers fly off the shelves here.
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Posted by Deadput on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:13pm CDT
It is possible however his alt form was spotted on set briefly so he might just be either a hi and bye dude or he spends most of his time in robot form.
I had to grab this image from my hard drive since I can't find it on the web but I do know the set pictures from that place were not uploaded as news on other sites like this and Tfw2005 so it's likely the original source got deleted and therefore the original pics are lost.
I can say that this is new stuff from TLK for example I think that's Barricade's hood in the bottom of the pic.
Posted by Deadput on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:13pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Beserker reviews turned me off because of how fiddly the figure was, and he most likely won't even be a real character anyway. Barricade is one of my favorite movie cons and I have thought the figure looks good. I have heard many more good than bad reviews, so I am not really turned off by the bad review
It is possible however his alt form was spotted on set briefly so he might just be either a hi and bye dude or he spends most of his time in robot form.
I had to grab this image from my hard drive since I can't find it on the web but I do know the set pictures from that place were not uploaded as news on other sites like this and Tfw2005 so it's likely the original source got deleted and therefore the original pics are lost.
I can say that this is new stuff from TLK for example I think that's Barricade's hood in the bottom of the pic.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:35pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:35pm CDT
Speaking of Beserker, is his toy licensed? Or is Bumblebee the only one?
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:36pm CDT
pace and money are also deciding factors. Money is not a problem for me, but SPACE is the real issue. Now, I even skip things that are non sale!
The days of grabbing everything in sight are clearly over for me.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 19th, 2017 @ 4:36pm CDT
Burn wrote:I can see myself not getting much of this line. Which is fine, as far as movie figures go I've become VERY selective.
pace and money are also deciding factors. Money is not a problem for me, but SPACE is the real issue. Now, I even skip things that are non sale!
The days of grabbing everything in sight are clearly over for me.
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:59pm CDT
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 6:59pm CDT
I'm still looking forward to the new voyager Prime. It's nicer looking than I expected and I figure I'll end up painting a bunch more silver on his head. I have no idea why they put silver on his crotch guard section, there's no silver there in the movie and even if there was I'd rather get more paint on his face. I'm excited for the new Megatrons and Scorn like everyone else and definitely the new Bee. I love that they finally got his wheels in the right place and he looks way better put together than most of the previous Bumblebee molds. I'll put him next to my High Octane Bee on my shelf.
Also sorry for asking since I'm sure it's been brought up a few times, but what was the street date for wave 1 again? I thought it was the 24th, and my Toys R Us is saying if they don't get Titans wave 4 in tomorrow there's a good chance they'll come in with the Last Knight figures. Hopefully I can get Prime and Krok.
Also sorry for asking since I'm sure it's been brought up a few times, but what was the street date for wave 1 again? I thought it was the 24th, and my Toys R Us is saying if they don't get Titans wave 4 in tomorrow there's a good chance they'll come in with the Last Knight figures. Hopefully I can get Prime and Krok.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:44pm CDT
I've heard that this might be the new price point. Amazon has been slowly raising the price on deluxes when they have them in stock.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:44pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:You guys think these price jumps are going to apply to all lines, or is just because of the fancy packaging?
I've heard that this might be the new price point. Amazon has been slowly raising the price on deluxes when they have them in stock.
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:44pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:44pm CDT
Monday the 24th is the street date 
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:46pm CDT
Great, thanks WJ! I've got a Target in walking distance I can check out. Hopefully cheaper than Toys R Us.
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:46pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Monday the 24th
Great, thanks WJ! I've got a Target in walking distance I can check out. Hopefully cheaper than Toys R Us.
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Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:48pm CDT
Yeah, three bedrooms and none of them are overly big, which is why the collection fills an entire room. I've actually gone through and reduced my movie line, so now I'm very selective of what I want. They have to really impress me and a lot of the movie figures simply don't do that.
Posted by Burn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:48pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Burn wrote:I can see myself not getting much of this line. Which is fine, as far as movie figures go I've become VERY selective.
Space and money are also deciding factors. Money is not a problem for me, but SPACE is the real issue. Now, I even skip things that are non sale!
The days of grabbing everything in sight are clearly over for me.
Yeah, three bedrooms and none of them are overly big, which is why the collection fills an entire room. I've actually gone through and reduced my movie line, so now I'm very selective of what I want. They have to really impress me and a lot of the movie figures simply don't do that.
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:50pm CDT
Not to be a downer, but we already know the prices for Target, same as TRU (its a new MSRP from Hasbro themselves)
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:50pm CDT
Autobot Roadburn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Monday the 24th
Great, thanks WJ! I've got a Target in walking distance I can check out. Hopefully cheaper than Toys R Us.
Not to be a downer, but we already know the prices for Target, same as TRU (its a new MSRP from Hasbro themselves)
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:59pm CDT
Oh I knew about the increase, I just assumed they'd cost even more at TRU. The one I go to is always a few dollars more expensive than Target. That increase is why I'm probably going to end up with around 4 Last Knight figures (5 if I end up unable to resist Leader Megs)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 7:59pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Autobot Roadburn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Monday the 24th
Great, thanks WJ! I've got a Target in walking distance I can check out. Hopefully cheaper than Toys R Us.
Not to be a downer, but we already know the prices for Target, same as TRU (its a new MSRP from Hasbro themselves)
Oh I knew about the increase, I just assumed they'd cost even more at TRU. The one I go to is always a few dollars more expensive than Target. That increase is why I'm probably going to end up with around 4 Last Knight figures (5 if I end up unable to resist Leader Megs)
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Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CDT
Ok cool then
But I think due to the increase, all shops will be pretty much equal (aside from collector shops which might charge more) so I think your TRU will charge $30 like Target.
Which toys do you plan on getting?
Posted by william-james88 on April 19th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CDT
Autobot Roadburn wrote:Oh I knew about the increase, I just assumed they'd cost even more at TRU. The one I go to is always a few dollars more expensive than Target. That increase is why I'm probably going to end up with around 4 Last Knight figures (5 if I end up unable to resist Leader Megs)
Ok cool then
But I think due to the increase, all shops will be pretty much equal (aside from collector shops which might charge more) so I think your TRU will charge $30 like Target.
Which toys do you plan on getting?
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CDT
Just Optimus from wave one, then at least voyager and maybe leader Megatron, the new mold for deluxe Bee and Scorn. Those are the only ones I've seen that appeal to me so far - I've bought most of the ones that are now repaints/remolds from AoE and wasn't a fan of most of them (only ones I still have from that whole line are High Octane Bumblebee and Evasion Prime from the 5 pack). If they make Hot Rod and Onslaught I might grab them, especially since one of my favorite movie designs was Long Haul. Barricade I might get later on discount if only to paint up a lot. I love those brass knuckles and some silver drybrushing could make them look amazing. I plan to do the same on Prime's head and smokestacks, those are the parts of him that really needed extra work.
The rest I'll wait to look into until the movie's out, but I want to keep it minimal. I'm running out of collecting space and money fast ever since I started collecting Lego Star Wars.
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on April 19th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Autobot Roadburn wrote:Oh I knew about the increase, I just assumed they'd cost even more at TRU. The one I go to is always a few dollars more expensive than Target. That increase is why I'm probably going to end up with around 4 Last Knight figures (5 if I end up unable to resist Leader Megs)
Ok cool then
But I think due to the increase, all shops will be pretty much equal (aside from collector shops which might charge more) so I think your TRU will charge $30 like Target.
Which toys do you plan on getting?
Just Optimus from wave one, then at least voyager and maybe leader Megatron, the new mold for deluxe Bee and Scorn. Those are the only ones I've seen that appeal to me so far - I've bought most of the ones that are now repaints/remolds from AoE and wasn't a fan of most of them (only ones I still have from that whole line are High Octane Bumblebee and Evasion Prime from the 5 pack). If they make Hot Rod and Onslaught I might grab them, especially since one of my favorite movie designs was Long Haul. Barricade I might get later on discount if only to paint up a lot. I love those brass knuckles and some silver drybrushing could make them look amazing. I plan to do the same on Prime's head and smokestacks, those are the parts of him that really needed extra work.
The rest I'll wait to look into until the movie's out, but I want to keep it minimal. I'm running out of collecting space and money fast ever since I started collecting Lego Star Wars.
