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Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

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Saturday, July 14th, 2018 10:33PM CDT

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As with Brawl, Megatron and Jazz, while Studio Series wave 2 has hit a few retailers, there is little talk about them. They have yet to reach saturation and their higher prices at several retailers might make them less obvious to own. I have a pictorial review for every toy of Wave 2 so far so I thought I would complete that with Lockdown. As with every other toy in this wave (and line), there is a lot to like but it is also far from perfect.

The first thing I would like to get out of the way is that unlike what it seemed at first, this is not a tall deluxe. For the life of me I could not find his previous deluxe in my collection bins, so I have a comparison to a bunch of other toys instead to show you what I mean.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

People had wondered if this was a retool of Cogman but it isn't. It is as similar to Cogman as it is to TLK Barricade, which are all shellformers with the feet in the back and the torso at the front. That is basically where the similarities end. Unlike Cogman, I found Lockdown to have an uninventive transformation for a shellformer.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

While the backpack does fold into itself, it is still pretty big and definitely takes away from the silhouette the robot mode sculpting promises. It doesn't help him feel more boxy and wide than he should be, which is already conveyed with his truncated neck and wide arms. About the arms, I do not know why they chose to have the upper arm be actual car mode detail rather than sculpting some robot mode detail under that piece and making it face that way. it just looks off. Yes, they do add these flip out robot mode detail launchers and while it is a good idea, it is not done well. They have a very flimsy connection and can easily pop off.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

The weapons are fine. No gun face, but we do get the hook. We also get a Sword/Blaster (something very common in Age of Extinction) but he cant hold it as a blaster. Both weapons can be hooked onto the outside of the forearms, which is also where they can be hooked on in vehicle mode.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

The sculpting is clearly the best part though. Too bad the deco doesn't highlight as much as I would like, they don't even paint the Lamborghini symbol split across his chest.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

While the face sculpt is nice, the expression they gave him is that of massive boredom. To the point that it can really get in the way of a cool scene.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

I don't have any issue with the car mode. I like that they painted the tail lights but I would have really liked that they gave some detail to the Lamborghini symbol in the front, like they had done with last year's Hot Rod.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

Transformers News: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown

So in the end it's a great sculpt and cool car mode, definitely better than the previous attempt. However this is still a very typical shellformer at a scale that doesn't really help me. The nice sculpting hides away the fact that this toy doesn't accomplish much aside from looking good in a few areas, making it feel more like a mild improvement over the definite version of a character. Add that to a the lackluster deco and this is another example of a movie toy in the Studio Series line that doesn't feel more "premium" than any other movie toy from previous lines. He is fine but it's not a toy I think I will go back to often (until I have an accompanying Optimus).

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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971229)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 15th, 2018 @ 1:39am CDT
One day, these new shiny SS figures will come to my town...
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971237)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:54am CDT
Good review will, and again, thanks for doing them :-)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971248)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 3:47am CDT
william-james88 wrote:So in the end it's a great sculpt and cool car mode, definitely better than the previous attempt. However this is still a very typical shellformer at a scale that doesn't really help me. The nice sculpting hides away the fact that this toy doesn't accomplish much aside from looking good in a few areas, making it feel more like a mild improvement over the definite version of a character. Add that to a the lackluster deco and this is another example of a movie toy in the Studio Series line that doesn't feel more "premium" than any other movie toy from previous lines. He is fine but it's not a toy I think I will go back to often (until I have an accompanying Optimus).


Yeah again I like your photos but I just don't agree with your reviews. I think this Lockdown is a superb figure and a massive improvement over the previous attempt in size, sculpt and proportions and is in my opinion one of the coolest looking bad guy (avoided saying Decepticon cos he's technically not one) Transformers figures ever.

flip out robot mode detail launchers and while it is a good idea, it is not done well. They have a very flimsy connection and can easily pop off.


How? Mine don't even come off if I try pulling at them or lifting up the whole figure by either one of them.

Size difference between old deluxe and studio deluxe and Peru Kill.
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(image from this thread on TFW2005 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... 903/page-3 )

I actually like the Studio figure more than Peru Kill. While PK does a better job folding away all the car parts, I prefer the look of the Studio figure much more. The old Deluxe just looks like a dork with those bad proportions it has. Like Jazz, Lockdown was another figure I paid £7 over the RRP for just to get it a bit earlier and I have no regrets. Love the sculpt and he looks great displayed on my shelf (with his unique backdrop art) or on my desk when he's my deskbot of the week or so. :P

My Lockdown (and Jazz and Prime)
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My photography is crap but I kinda like how one of Jazz's headlights on his shoulder has turned orange from the light shining through Prime's sword. That's neat. Again Jazz posing just fine even without needing the black stabiliser parts folded out.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971270)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:14am CDT
Love this guy, if they were to release a masked variant with guns instead of melee weapons you can bet your aft I'd buy it.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971284)
Posted by Deadput on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:12am CDT
A ROTF repaint of the Studio Series voyager Starscream was just officially announced on Hasbros Instagram today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQUCtMhw_t ... 2wml2brkp9
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971286)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:54am CDT
Deadput wrote:A ROTF repaint of the Studio Series voyager Starscream was just officially announced on Hasbros Instagram today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlQUCtMhw_t ... 2wml2brkp9


I love the first release of this Starscream mold but I see this RotF version with the tattoos and sawblade I like so much so I'm quite happy buying it again. :D
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971287)
Posted by Va'al on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:55am CDT
The Transformers Studio Series line, featuring 'definitive' toy versions of the live action movieverse characters, has already had its Voyager class Starscream appearance (as you can see in our ranking here) - but as hinted at by the Takara Tomy listings found the other day, we may indeed have a second version of the same mold in the line, sporting the tattoo pattern as the previous Leader class figure had for Revenge of the Fallen.

Check out the image below, posted today by the Hasbro Pulse Instagram account, and brought to our attention by fellow Seibetronian Deadput - will you be double dipping, or do you have no interest in this redeco of the Decepticon second in command? Let us know in the Energon Pub!

Check out the Studio Series Voyager Class Starscream from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen


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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971289)
Posted by Agent 53 on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:59am CDT
Ah so the figure representing Starscream that we all kinda knew was gonna show up (It's a new paint-job, nothing more, easy for Hasbro) has been announced.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971291)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:02am CDT
That one was the obvious repaint. However, having the original SS Screamers plus the DOTM deluxe and HFTD leader, this one is unnecessary for me.
(Then I'll see it on clearance and I'll buy it anyway)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971292)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:04am CDT
When is it out? I need it. And Ironhide. I need that too.

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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971293)
Posted by Randomhero on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:11am CDT
Agent 53 wrote:Ah so the figure representing Starscream that we all kinda knew was gonna show up (It's a new paint-job, nothing more, easy for Hasbro) has been announced.



He also comes with the abandoned saw blade accessory the original was intended to come with which I’m very happy about and said “If the tattoo deco comes with it I’m in” and I am.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971296)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:20am CDT
Did he keep this look for Dark of the Moon? Anyways I like what I see :D
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971297)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 10:23am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Did he keep this look for Dark of the Moon? Anyways I like what I see :D


Yes he did. Which be why the Deluxe figure from that film's toyline (that Studio is based on) had the tats. :)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971308)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 15th, 2018 @ 12:39pm CDT
Looks cool! Between the first SS and HFTD Starscreams though I don’t think I need this one. Also, on kind of a cool note, this Starscream has a little Decepticon logo on it in the same spot as the electronics button on HFTD Starscream. It doesn’t look like this :CON: is a part of the on-screen tattoos, so it may be a cool reference to the past figure.
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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971310)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 1:07pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Looks cool! Between the first SS and HFTD Starscreams though I don’t think I need this one. Also, on kind of a cool note, this Starscream has a little Decepticon logo on it in the same spot as the electronics button on HFTD Starscream. It doesn’t look like this :CON: is a part of the on-screen tattoos, so it may be a cool reference to the past figure.
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That's a neat lil easter egg sorta thing if it is indeed referencing the leader class figure.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971313)
Posted by DISCHARGE on July 15th, 2018 @ 1:20pm CDT
Tattoo SS will be the only movie toy ill have bought since AoE.(maybe I did get a couple ttchangers.)

He should look nice next to Nebular SS.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971318)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 15th, 2018 @ 1:47pm CDT
Really tempted here but I don't like the price tag on these it seems. PotP are more well made.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971320)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:15pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Really tempted here but I don't like the price tag on these it seems. PotP are more well made.

I don’t have a huge sample size of either line, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. I mean, compare SS Starscream to POTP Starscream. That being said though, $30 is a little high for a voyager class figure.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971325)
Posted by RiddlerJ on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CDT
"Okay, so we'll give Starscream the gun and saw-"
"No, you fool, hold off on the saw until the repaint!"
"Brrrrrrrrrrrilliant!"
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971327)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:46pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
WreckerJack wrote:Really tempted here but I don't like the price tag on these it seems. PotP are more well made.

I don’t have a huge sample size of either line, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. I mean, compare SS Starscream to POTP Starscream. That being said though, $30 is a little high for a voyager class figure.

Considering the deluxes were around 20, which was already too much in my opinion I would assume the voyagers will be more. I honestly think 20 to 25 dollars is a good price for a voyager and certainly not a deluxe.

I can justify a deluxe costing about 12 to 15 or so. Even 15 feels a bit much but considering that the Prime Wars Trilogy has such good figures I don't mind paying more because it feels worth it. But yeah, 30 bucks for a voyager? Get outta here. I can see Brawl on Amazon for 29.99. No. Just no.

If they want us to pay more for something they need to give us bang for our buck. Yeah I'll admit I bought the Studio Series Ratchet on impulse. I regret paying 20 bucks for him, but I do like the figure. I wanted a movie Ratchet for my collection since I didn't have one. I found this figure to have loose parts and a lack of painted details. Granted I can fix the figure up (when I am less lazy) but I won't be buying any of these toys for full price at the store anymore.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971328)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:47pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:"Okay, so we'll give Starscream the gun and saw-"
"No, you fool, hold off on the saw until the repaint!"
"Brrrrrrrrrrrilliant!"


If the figure can only come with ONE weapon, this make sense. It's also making the repaint more worth getting.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971331)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 3:00pm CDT
They won't give you more bang for the buck though as they need to maintain profit margins against rising production costs. This is capitalism and it sucks.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971338)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 15th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:They won't give you more bang for the buck though as they need to maintain profit margins against rising production costs. This is capitalism and it sucks.


Exactly. It's either the prices rise, or the toys get "trimmed down". No one want THAT to happen to whole lines, right?

FOC Jazz:
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--Packaging proudly say "COME WITH A GUN!" Gun is a dinky little thing.
--Hollow parts everywhere
--Very thin semi-soft plastics, almost clear
--Size dramatically reduced
--Barely any paint

But eh, it the same price at the RTS Jazz that came out some years ago. So it's all right!


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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971342)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 15th, 2018 @ 4:08pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
WreckerJack wrote:Really tempted here but I don't like the price tag on these it seems. PotP are more well made.

I don’t have a huge sample size of either line, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. I mean, compare SS Starscream to POTP Starscream. That being said though, $30 is a little high for a voyager class figure.

Considering the deluxes were around 20, which was already too much in my opinion I would assume the voyagers will be more. I honestly think 20 to 25 dollars is a good price for a voyager and certainly not a deluxe.

I can justify a deluxe costing about 12 to 15 or so. Even 15 feels a bit much but considering that the Prime Wars Trilogy has such good figures I don't mind paying more because it feels worth it. But yeah, 30 bucks for a voyager? Get outta here. I can see Brawl on Amazon for 29.99. No. Just no.


Depends what you like I guess. I didn't find any of the Power of the Primes figures even worth buying. None appealed to me at their prices at all. There are a couple I may consider if I find them on heavy clearance but nothing more (and many I still wouldn't... PotP Jazz was reduced to £10 and I still couldn't muster up any enthusiasm to purchase it as to me it looks like junk especially since I used to own his far superior Takara repaint of the Reveal the Shield figure which I just noticed a pic of above). I've happily paid £23 each for a couple of my Studio Deluxes and even £30 each for Jazz and Lockdown and loved them both too. My Voyagers were various prices (Starscream was £33, Megatron was £30 and Prime was £27) and been very happy with those. Grimlock ehhh. I wish that one had been cheaper. I paid £53 and I was quite disappointed with the dino mode overall (and will likely pay the extra for the DNA Design upgrade kit). I don't really find many Transformers figures worth paying more than £50 for and certainly none of the Prime Wars stuff had me wanting to spend anywhere near that much (£50-£55 for blocky stuff like Leader class Blaster, a bunch of bricks that turns into a brick that contains little bricks? No thanks). Weird thing is a certain shop here in the UK (The Entertainer) charges the same price for Titans Deluxes as it did for TLK and now Studio deluxes. I think they corrected that with Power of the Primes deluxes but i cant remember but still I just find Studio's toys just better value for me personally because I get greater value out of the more complex and detailed movie designs than I ever do with the much more simplistic and blocky G1-esque types. So yeah it's down to personal taste and preference as to what you consider is worth your own money. :) I got £66 saved up for Ironhide and RotF Starscream here, and yeah i know it's a fair bit of cash but I genuinely love this line and it's figures more than any other toyline in a very long time and I'm sure they'll please me like the ones I have already bought have. :)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971344)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 4:18pm CDT
You'll have to post more pics when you get then carni :-)

@kanra precisely, we can demand a better deal for ourselves but we also have to be realistic and look at all angles.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971351)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 15th, 2018 @ 5:01pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:They won't give you more bang for the buck though as they need to maintain profit margins against rising production costs. This is capitalism and it sucks.


That is honestly one thing I never understood. I guess the majority of people are either fooled into buying things (again I readily admit that I have made some purchases like that and its bummer when it happens) or B just accept something sub par when they know they should be getting something better.

Guess I gotta watch more reviews and pay better attention.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971376)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 15th, 2018 @ 6:30pm CDT
I almost want him for the buzzsaw...

...almost.

I already have the first movie version and I like him without the tattoos, but this one is very tempting. If I see it in stores at a slight discount, sure.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971403)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:15pm CDT
I have the movie 1 toy, and I like him enough to not buy the original Quad-S to replace him.

But waiting for the tattooed look for Quad-S? with the saw? That is what I wanted. Perfect.

Now to eventually find wave 2 (I want all 4) and then get Screamer after
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971407)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:42pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:They won't give you more bang for the buck though as they need to maintain profit margins against rising production costs. This is capitalism and it sucks.


Exactly. It's either the prices rise, or the toys get "trimmed down". No one want THAT to happen to whole lines, right?

FOC Jazz:
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--Packaging proudly say "COME WITH A GUN!" Gun is a dinky little thing.
--Hollow parts everywhere
--Very thin semi-soft plastics, almost clear
--Size dramatically reduced
--Barely any paint

But eh, it the same price at the RTS Jazz that came out some years ago. So it's all right!


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My poor FOC jazz doesn't even look like that, his entire backside has yellowed excessively.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971450)
Posted by Prime Target on July 16th, 2018 @ 12:24am CDT
And no the upscaling goes full circle.


I owned the DOTM Deluxe Starscream back In 2012 when I was a kid. I loved that thing. Essentially what SS Screamer is, is That figure upscaled (Basically Hasbro knocking themselves off) With a 2007 Movie based deco. I like what's happening here. Plus they're including a new accessory with the repaint that was cancelled for the first one. Only thing that's left now is for them to add a little arm mounted Gattling Gun accessory and I'm sold.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971459)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 16th, 2018 @ 3:09am CDT
It may look like an upscale but it's not, this was talked about a lot during the early pages of this thread. Screamer shares a transformation scheme but has a ton of new and different parts.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971480)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 16th, 2018 @ 7:13am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:You'll have to post more pics when you get then carni :-)


Wish I was a better photographer.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have the movie 1 toy, and I like him enough to not buy the original Quad-S to replace him.

But waiting for the tattooed look for Quad-S? with the saw? That is what I wanted. Perfect.


The original 2007 toy looks oddly like Sky-Lynx in comparison, with all that stuff underneath you'd half expect it to seperate and transform into a beast mode thing. By the way it took me way too long to get what you meant by 'Quad-S' (Studio Series StarScream, right?). :P

ZeroWolf wrote:It may look like an upscale but it's not, this was talked about a lot during the early pages of this thread. Screamer shares a transformation scheme but has a ton of new and different parts.


Yeah it's not a simple upscale like the oversized KO of the DotM Deluxe, it's just very much based on the Deluxe but takes advantage of the larger size for more detail and some extra bits (mostly those torso filler bits that unfold from the wings).
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971490)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 16th, 2018 @ 8:18am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It may look like an upscale but it's not, this was talked about a lot during the early pages of this thread. Screamer shares a transformation scheme but has a ton of new and different parts.


Yeah it's not a simple upscale like the oversized KO of the DotM Deluxe, it's just very much based on the Deluxe but takes advantage of the larger size for more detail and some extra bits (mostly those torso filler bits that unfold from the wings).
So it's less a case like "G2 Smokescreen --> Energon Starscream" and more like "G2 Smokescreen --> 2010 Terradive".
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971500)
Posted by william-james88 on July 16th, 2018 @ 9:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It may look like an upscale but it's not, this was talked about a lot during the early pages of this thread. Screamer shares a transformation scheme but has a ton of new and different parts.


Yeah it's not a simple upscale like the oversized KO of the DotM Deluxe, it's just very much based on the Deluxe but takes advantage of the larger size for more detail and some extra bits (mostly those torso filler bits that unfold from the wings).
So it's less a case like "G2 Smokescreen --> Energon Starscream" and more like "G2 Smokescreen --> 2010 Terradive".

I highly disagree, I find those toys so different from one another (and they are different characters anway). This really isnt about shared engineering or whatnot, it is upscale. But upscale while adding detail.

The best comparison would be the other actual upscale of BH Predaking from Legion to Voyager.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971509)
Posted by o.supreme on July 16th, 2018 @ 9:28am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:16 / SS-15 Ironhide


Isn't Hasbro's number for Ironhide 14? -So while :TAKARATOMY: is releasing the exact same figures, it would appear the numbering sequence isn't following suit. It was "one off" because of Thundercracker, but after that, it gets all kinds of wonky.

Also I was wondering what the other "Ratchet" is on :TAKARATOMY: list. It appears to be a Voyager rather than a Deluxe. Or am I reading the proicuing scale incorrectly? If so, this would be the first studio series character to be released in different size classes, which I thought might be a big no-no unless their forms in different films were different enough to warrant it (i.e. Soundwave...)
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971517)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 16th, 2018 @ 10:19am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:16 / SS-15 Ironhide


Isn't Hasbro's number for Ironhide 14? -So while :TAKARATOMY: is releasing the exact same figures, it would appear the numbering sequence isn't following suit. It was "one off" because of Thundercracker, but after that, it gets all kinds of wonky.


Anything past 14 / SS-13 are guesses. Those two numbers are next in their respective sequence however :)

Also I was wondering what the other "Ratchet" is on :TAKARATOMY: list. It appears to be a Voyager rather than a Deluxe. Or am I reading the proicuing scale incorrectly? If so, this would be the first studio series character to be released in different size classes, which I thought might be a big no-no unless their forms in different films were different enough to warrant it (i.e. Soundwave...)


You're reading the prices wrong, they're more in line with the rest of the world if you're only taking the last two digits off:

1,200 Yen: One-Step
2,800 Yen: Deluxe Class (which is what the second Ratchet falls under)
4,500 Yen: Voyager Class
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971524)
Posted by o.supreme on July 16th, 2018 @ 10:53am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:You're reading the prices wrong, they're more in line with the rest of the world if you're only taking the last two digits off:

1,200 Yen: One-Step
2,800 Yen: Deluxe Class (which is what the second Ratchet falls under)
4,500 Yen: Voyager Class


No...I was reading the prices correctly, I just didn't realize the toys were so expensive 2800 Y is roughly $25.00 U.S. (currently), and that's what I'm used to paying for a Voyager, not a deluxe... I figured the toys were *about* the same price in whatever country you by them, it's just that importers pay extra taxes, and of course have to make a profit themselves, which is why a typical :TAKARATOMY: deluxe is like around $35 on BBTS. Now though, with the brand unifications, it appears there is little to no incentive to import these toys, when you end up basically paying DOUBLE for the exact same toy, same packaging, just Japanese lettering being the only difference.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971530)
Posted by william-james88 on July 16th, 2018 @ 11:07am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:You're reading the prices wrong, they're more in line with the rest of the world if you're only taking the last two digits off:

1,200 Yen: One-Step
2,800 Yen: Deluxe Class (which is what the second Ratchet falls under)
4,500 Yen: Voyager Class


No...I was reading the prices correctly, I just didn't realize the toys were so expensive 2800 Y is roughly $25.00 U.S. (currently), and that's what I'm used to paying for a Voyager, not a deluxe... I figured the toys were *about* the same price in whatever country you by them, it's just that importers pay extra taxes, and of course have to make a profit themselves, which is why a typical :TAKARATOMY: deluxe is like around $35 on BBTS. Now though, with the brand unifications, it appears there is little to no incentive to import these toys, when you end up basically paying DOUBLE for the exact same toy, same packaging, just Japanese lettering being the only difference.


Thats because in Japan there is a huge difference between MSRP and the retail price. Always has been. In Japan, all these toys are available at retail for 25-30% less than that MSRP price listed above. Its more of a price point rather than the actual price of the figures. So yes, actual retail prices in Japan and US are comparable.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971605)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 16th, 2018 @ 6:02pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:It may look like an upscale but it's not, this was talked about a lot during the early pages of this thread. Screamer shares a transformation scheme but has a ton of new and different parts.


Yeah it's not a simple upscale like the oversized KO of the DotM Deluxe, it's just very much based on the Deluxe but takes advantage of the larger size for more detail and some extra bits (mostly those torso filler bits that unfold from the wings).
So it's less a case like "G2 Smokescreen --> Energon Starscream" and more like "G2 Smokescreen --> 2010 Terradive".

I highly disagree, I find those toys so different from one another (and they are different characters anway). This really isnt about shared engineering or whatnot, it is upscale. But upscale while adding detail.

The best comparison would be the other actual upscale of BH Predaking from Legion to Voyager.


Right on the money on that one. There's similarities in the engeneering of both dragons, but MAN, does the "voyager" Predaking kills it. For me, it's the defenitive mold of the character.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971629)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 16th, 2018 @ 7:17pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have the movie 1 toy, and I like him enough to not buy the original Quad-S to replace him.

But waiting for the tattooed look for Quad-S? with the saw? That is what I wanted. Perfect.
The original 2007 toy looks oddly like Sky-Lynx in comparison, with all that stuff underneath you'd half expect it to seperate and transform into a beast mode thing. By the way it took me way too long to get what you meant by 'Quad-S' (Studio Series StarScream, right?). :P

You got it right!

And while that is true, I still am oddly attracted to that figure. I still like it
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971816)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 17th, 2018 @ 4:03pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have the movie 1 toy, and I like him enough to not buy the original Quad-S to replace him.

But waiting for the tattooed look for Quad-S? with the saw? That is what I wanted. Perfect.
The original 2007 toy looks oddly like Sky-Lynx in comparison, with all that stuff underneath you'd half expect it to seperate and transform into a beast mode thing. By the way it took me way too long to get what you meant by 'Quad-S' (Studio Series StarScream, right?). :P

You got it right!

And while that is true, I still am oddly attracted to that figure. I still like it


Yeah I go easy on majority of the 2007 movie figures since it was a whole new style of aesthetic and engineering Hasbro had to figure out how to get across in toy form so they weren't gonna be perfect and some were even great toys in their own right even when not particularly accurate (like Leader Optimus Prime). Not saying I particularly want to own any of them now (the only 2007 figure on my shelf is Arcee since I love that one and she has no updated figure of that design since it was never used in the films) but yeah I can understand the appeal of them.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971834)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 17th, 2018 @ 5:07pm CDT
I love the 2007 movie non-appearing figures, like wreckage and stockade
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971852)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 17th, 2018 @ 7:21pm CDT
Well, look who it is!
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I didn’t get them because I just dropped a ton on TFs, but they are starting to show up. No voyagers yet.

Edit: Wow, Jazz is small. Great looking paint though!
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971859)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 17th, 2018 @ 7:45pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I love the 2007 movie non-appearing figures, like wreckage and stockade


The 2007 Stockade/Gears mold is FANTASTIC. That's for sure.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971899)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I love the 2007 movie non-appearing figures, like wreckage and stockade


The 2007 Stockade/Gears mold is FANTASTIC. That's for sure.
Seconded. And while I own Stockade, after having read the Classified novels I wish I'd gotten Gears too, as those books made him into a cool character (I envisioned him being voiced by Michael Dorn in those books).
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1971929)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 18th, 2018 @ 3:19am CDT
I never saw gears in person, my son apparently likes stockade as well, and has even claimed him as his own :lol: the allspark power lines did have a few good toys in it. A shame that the non-appearing characters will just be folded away into history
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1972031)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I love the 2007 movie non-appearing figures, like wreckage and stockade


The 2007 Stockade/Gears mold is FANTASTIC. That's for sure.


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I liked Stockade when I had him in 2007 but after getting him again last year I think my tastes have changed a bit cos I didn't like that figure so much anymore. The windows in robot mode particularly bugged me. Still quite fond of Dropkick and Landmine though. At moment though I've been feeling like trying to hunt down a 2010 non-movie movie toy in the form of Highbrow with that lovely WWII plane mode and the nifty goggles in robot mode. Such a hard one to find at a good price though and I never had it before cos i never once saw it in shops. I hope maybe it'll get a re-release if they ever do a WWII Bee from TLK like I wish they would.

After seeing an oversized and improved Studio Series Blackout by Wei Jiang (which seems way too large for Blackout now but maybe good as Grindor) I do wonder if they'll be doing their own upscale and upgrade of Grimlock who is the only character who had to be greatly shrunk to even fit in the Studio range. Grimlock needs to be big enough for Prime to sit upon his back to scale like in AoE.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1972033)
Posted by o.supreme on July 18th, 2018 @ 3:01pm CDT
Have there been any news about proposed Leader Class releases? I know this is all just speculation, but I was wondering what other Transformers in this series would be good Leader Class. I mean obviously Grindor (as a Blackout repaint), but I think Slug and Scorn would be neat. Strafe would probably be a Voyager.

I was thinking also RotF Demolishor, though arguably he could even be a Supreme or Titan Class toy by himself, I seriously doubt Hasbro would do that, so he's probably be Leader Class. This also gets into the *sticky* area of the Constructicons. I would so love for a proper SS set of Constructicons/ Devastator to come out, but the more I think about it, the more problematic it is. There are several of the same vehicle mode that could be used as stand ins. Do you make them all compatible? Do you make Devaststor out of 6, 7 or 9 parts (whatever is true to the movie sans balls I guess.... 8-} ) Also, I was thinking a box set would be cool, but If Demolishor/Scavenger is a Leader, then the rest would have to be Voyagers, perhaps some of the smaller only hand/foot componants could be deluxe, and that would be one massive box, and massively expensive....additionally this monstrosity may not be able to stand on it's own (Kind of reminds me of that McFarlane combiner way back when....)

I don't know, I'm just rambling right now, but I sure hope :HASBRO: finds a way to make it work.
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1972038)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 18th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CDT
Mcfarlane combiner?

I've often pondered the devestator conundrum, and the only way to do it would be either through haslab and have it be massive, or have it be leader with Legion class figures for scaling purposes included
Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Studio Series Lockdown (1972040)
Posted by o.supreme on July 18th, 2018 @ 3:23pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Mcfarlane combiner?


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