Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus
Tuesday, November 20th, 2012 2:35PM CST
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Site sponsor Kapow! Toys has provided pictorial reviews for Hasbro's upcoming Transformers Genetrations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxes Starscream, Sideswipe, and Ultra Magnus. Check em' out below:
Starscream has arrived and he is pretty darn good! I'm not a fan of the original Classics Seeker hating the way the wings had to fold down every time you wanted to pose the arms in fashion. This guy is a good size with chunky solid joints and a nice aesthetic bringing the game character to life in accurate fashion.
Jet mode is quite a simple deal but does the job well, the gattling guns can be mounted underneath the wing giving him a mass of fire power, they even have rotating barrels. In robot mode you get some really nice articulated arms and legs but he is sadly missing a waist swivel. The guns can either be hand held or mounted on the rear of the forearm, they can also be combined to form a massive dual cannon which can be held simultaneously in both hands, they do look a little bland when split in half due to the molded inside section but its a minor gripe.
Starscream fits in with the FOC line extremely well and could even make the jump to your Classics / Generations collection as IDW Starscream ( if your not a stickler for accuracy that is )
Overall we score this newest rendition of a fan fave 9/10 awesome sauce.
Sideswipe is the repaint of Wave 1 Jazz and appears to knock spots off his predecessor. Coming with a remolded head, bonnet and uber massive gun Sideswipe is fun to play with if simple to transform. The new paint job seems to add the detail missing from poor Jazz who was just too bland due to all the white plastic. His new head is also more in proportion and a very good representation of the G1 fave.
Articulation wise Sideswipe is adequate, he his arms are good with a nice range of motion, the legs are okay being limited by the way they are molded so as to tuck away in car mode, he also lacks a waist swivel. The weapon is a welcome addition to the figure and as already stated huge, it doesn't do much other than have the barrel extend and retract with a tug or a push, it can be mounted on his sides in vehicle mode or be hand or forearm mounted in robot mode.
A nice repaint of a previously poor figure that scores 7/10
First off sorry for the pics, we've yet to get a good dark back drop so some of these are quite washed out, on to the figure! Ultra Magnus is a repaint of the Wave 1 Deluxe Optimus Prime figure and comes with an additional weapon in the form a 3 piece sword which can be held in hand or connected to the existing gun to form a gun blade style weapon which is huge!
There isn't much new about the figure itself apart from a new head and paint job which seems to work really well in depicting Magnus, he just looks the part with the way the sections separate between blue and white with my only complaint being the white is extremely bright and can look a little cheap. The articulation and transformation are really nice making him capable of a range of poses. The sword can also be carried on his back making him look extra cool whilst holding his rifle and mounted on the side of him whilst in vehicle mode so he can joust with the Knights of Cybertron ???
For a repaint Magnus is pretty darn good so we're scoring him 8/10
Credit(s): Kapow! Toys
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Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441137)
Posted by Maquese on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:04pm CST
Posted by Maquese on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:04pm CST
Very nice! Now if only a retailer near me carried anything other than Wave 1.... 
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441138)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:06pm CST
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:06pm CST
Magnus' sword is cool.
The end.
I think I'm just gonna get Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster and the Audicons and call it quits for this line... :/
The end.
I think I'm just gonna get Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster and the Audicons and call it quits for this line... :/
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441144)
Posted by kirbenvost on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:42pm CST
Posted by kirbenvost on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:42pm CST
Sideswipe and Magnus both look like nice improvements over the original versions of these molds.
Starscream looks like a great new rendition of the character, loving the bright transparent plastic used, makes for some great light-piping. The paint job looks a little cheap but that seems to be the norm nowadays, sadly. I'm a little disappointed his guns can't be mounted on his arms in the traditional way, but it's not that big of a deal. Great Cybertronian version of Starscream. Not quite as cool-looking as Galaxy Force Starscream, but surely better-articulated and quite nice for a deluxe.
Starscream looks like a great new rendition of the character, loving the bright transparent plastic used, makes for some great light-piping. The paint job looks a little cheap but that seems to be the norm nowadays, sadly. I'm a little disappointed his guns can't be mounted on his arms in the traditional way, but it's not that big of a deal. Great Cybertronian version of Starscream. Not quite as cool-looking as Galaxy Force Starscream, but surely better-articulated and quite nice for a deluxe.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441145)
Posted by Va'al on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:46pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:46pm CST
Hm. Starscream is a yes. I might cave for Magnus, not impressed this time round.
I think Grimlock will be the only other Autobot for this line.
I think Grimlock will be the only other Autobot for this line.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441148)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:56pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 20th, 2012 @ 3:56pm CST
Wow. Sideswipe looks like shit. That mold is much better suited for Magnus than Prime. And Screamer is OK. Won't be getting any of them, though. Grimlock is the only 1 left that I want. Maybe Swindle by himself, for the vehicle mode.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441169)
Posted by RodimalToyota on November 20th, 2012 @ 5:09pm CST
Posted by RodimalToyota on November 20th, 2012 @ 5:09pm CST
When did Sideswipe swipe Iron Hide's cannon?
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441181)
Posted by chubi316 on November 20th, 2012 @ 6:28pm CST
Posted by chubi316 on November 20th, 2012 @ 6:28pm CST
MUST... HAVE... STARSCREAM... NOW..!
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441189)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on November 20th, 2012 @ 6:55pm CST
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on November 20th, 2012 @ 6:55pm CST
Not crazy about Screamer's dull gray and red plastic, but I'll pick it up nonetheless.
Whenever I look at Sideswipe's face, I'm reminded of a chipmunk stuffing its cheeks full of food. Or maybe it's just the light reflecting off the silver.
Still not a fan of Magnus.
Whenever I look at Sideswipe's face, I'm reminded of a chipmunk stuffing its cheeks full of food. Or maybe it's just the light reflecting off the silver.
Still not a fan of Magnus.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441191)
Posted by Gundamu on November 20th, 2012 @ 7:05pm CST
Posted by Gundamu on November 20th, 2012 @ 7:05pm CST
Oh, wow! I might have to get this entire wave! 
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441196)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2012 @ 7:42pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2012 @ 7:42pm CST
I want all three.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441205)
Posted by optimuscarlos on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:22pm CST
Posted by optimuscarlos on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:22pm CST
I'm disappointed about sideswipe being the same mold as Jazz, but I think the retool is good enough for me to get him.I love the PATHBLASTER!!
I passed on the optimus FOC mold because looks like shit compared to the WFC mold, but who would 've known, It really fits on Ultra Magnus, I will get him too. Again...I love THE SWORD.
And starscrean is the jewel here, I really love this mold. Only thing is that I don't like the choosed weapon for him, I would 've loved to see him with his Nucleon charge rifle. I think this is a version of the X18 scrapmaker, when is combined at least.
I passed on the optimus FOC mold because looks like shit compared to the WFC mold, but who would 've known, It really fits on Ultra Magnus, I will get him too. Again...I love THE SWORD.
And starscrean is the jewel here, I really love this mold. Only thing is that I don't like the choosed weapon for him, I would 've loved to see him with his Nucleon charge rifle. I think this is a version of the X18 scrapmaker, when is combined at least.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441206)
Posted by sgahbao on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:23pm CST
Posted by sgahbao on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:23pm CST
Not sure is it old news already, found these on net, FOC set to release them in March 2013. Not sure why Hasbro cannot come out with a new mold for autobots combiner. Just a repaint of Bruticus, kind of like... 
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441208)
Posted by sgahbao on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:31pm CST
Posted by sgahbao on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:31pm CST
Additional photos
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441212)
Posted by RAcast on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:58pm CST
Posted by RAcast on November 20th, 2012 @ 9:58pm CST
It's the Wrecker combiner, my friend! Surely you could tell by the names. 
Ohhh man, Sideswipe! He looks so so good. I'll hold off on the Seeker mold for a Skywarp redeco, though I might come back and buy Starscream later if I see him on sale. And Magnus looks great as well!
Ohhh man, Sideswipe! He looks so so good. I'll hold off on the Seeker mold for a Skywarp redeco, though I might come back and buy Starscream later if I see him on sale. And Magnus looks great as well!
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441220)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2012 @ 10:19pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2012 @ 10:19pm CST
sgahbao wrote:Not sure is it old news already, found these on net, FOC set to release them in March 2013. Not sure why Hasbro cannot come out with a new mold for autobots combiner. Just a repaint of Bruticus, kind of like...
Yeah, that's all very old news.sgahbao wrote:Additional photos
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441257)
Posted by Mykltron on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:05am CST
Posted by Mykltron on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:05am CST
Starscream looks so cheap and nasty - he desperately needs paint. That grey is awful.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441273)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on November 21st, 2012 @ 6:02am CST
Nothing you can't fix, though.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on November 21st, 2012 @ 6:02am CST
Mykltron wrote:Starscream looks so cheap and nasty - he desperately needs paint. That grey is awful.
Nothing you can't fix, though.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441279)
Posted by Rushie on November 21st, 2012 @ 7:09am CST
Posted by Rushie on November 21st, 2012 @ 7:09am CST
That Ultra Magnus is the perfect way to pick up the FOC Prime mold without double-dipping on Optimus. He actually looks better with the huge parts-former swordgun which reminds me of Final Fantasy, especially Cloud's sword from Advent Children.
Also, all 8 remolded FOC deluxes have MUCH larger and complex weapons? Makes the originals seem so much less worth it. Just compare Jazz's dinky hairblower to Sideswipe's humongous Unicron Buster. Or those MechTechy things the Wreckers are carrying.
Also, all 8 remolded FOC deluxes have MUCH larger and complex weapons? Makes the originals seem so much less worth it. Just compare Jazz's dinky hairblower to Sideswipe's humongous Unicron Buster. Or those MechTechy things the Wreckers are carrying.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441335)
Posted by RAcast on November 21st, 2012 @ 11:00am CST
That's the point I think. Hasbro released the low-mass versions first so they could release bigger toys later, at least that's how it seems to me.
By the way, anybody else noticed that Sideswipe's gun looks awfully familiar to another game as well?
Posted by RAcast on November 21st, 2012 @ 11:00am CST
Rushie wrote:Also, all 8 remolded FOC deluxes have MUCH larger and complex weapons? Makes the originals seem so much less worth it. Just compare Jazz's dinky hairblower to Sideswipe's humongous Unicron Buster. Or those MechTechy things the Wreckers are carrying.
That's the point I think. Hasbro released the low-mass versions first so they could release bigger toys later, at least that's how it seems to me.
By the way, anybody else noticed that Sideswipe's gun looks awfully familiar to another game as well?
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441445)
Posted by El Duque on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:37pm CST
Posted by El Duque on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:37pm CST
Site sponsor Kapow! Toys has reviewed the two remaining figures out of Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe wave 3, Kickback and Air Raid. Kickback is a brand new mold, while Air Raid is an Autobot reapint/remold of wave 1's Shockwave. Check out the pictorial reviews below:
Now this guy is definitely the star of the show along with Starscream. The only other brand new mold in Wave 3 is one of the Dinobots main foes from the FOC video game. He comes with a massive weapon in the form of an energon crossbow which which shoots the disc via a grey switch on top, the purple blades can be detached to become either handheld blades or part of Kickbacks alt mode.
Articulation is very good, the arms have a lot of swivel and ball joints in them and the legs the same, he has no waist swivel but does have ball jointed ankles allowing a lot of cool stances. The panels on his chest and shoulders can get in the way if I'm honest but its not enough to annoy, his forearms can be slid up or down to form blades and as you can see from the pics he looks really good either way.
Alt mode was looking a but bland from the stock images but once in hand its actually really big and hold together well, he even has a bug shell formed by the arms which I myself wasn't aware of before having it in hand.
Kickback is nice addition to the line, he does look like he belongs in the Prime universe slightly more than the FOC one but thats not a bad thing.
Overall Kickback scores 9/10
Fall of Cybertron Fireflight
The Wave 3 repaint of Shockwave comes with a brand new chest, colours, weapons and head. Having had a name change to Air Raid along the way this guy seems to make a much better usage of the cybertronian ship alt mode than Shockwave did who suffered from complaints he was too small, Air Raid however does not share this fate as there is nothing to measure him against other than than the existing G1 toy which is tiny.
Most of you will know what to expect of the articulation on this guy, it does the job and does it well, only gripe is no waist swivel. Weapon wise he comes with a modification of Shockwaves 3 pronged cannon minus a prong this forms the base of the huge sword if you can be bothered to make it out of all 3 sections, we tried but in total honesty it didn't stay together well and looked kind of pants, they do however all stand on their own very well, the small sword being of particular awesomeness. You can mount the gun on Air Raids arms with the fist introverted or simply in his hand, the swords can be hand held only. Both the gun and large sword can be stored on Air Raids back.
Overall this is a good use of an existing mold, the weapons, head and chest have changed it enough to warrant a purchase for hardcore fans or those who do not own Shockwave, we score Air Raid - 8/10
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441450)
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:49pm CST
Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.
But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.
But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441455)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:56pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:56pm CST
And Air Raid is alluring... must resist...
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441456)
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:56pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:56pm CST
Is there a better rear foot for Kickback's bug mode? Standing on the bot mode's heels like that just looks terrible.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441457)
Posted by Va'al on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:58pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:58pm CST
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe.
But possibly not.
But possibly not.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441458)
Posted by craggy on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:59pm CST
Posted by craggy on November 21st, 2012 @ 4:59pm CST
nice. these two were the ones I was really worried about when I preordered the whole wave. Kickback looks interesting, and Air Raid will be my Classics Wing Saber.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441462)
Posted by RAcast on November 21st, 2012 @ 5:06pm CST
Posted by RAcast on November 21st, 2012 @ 5:06pm CST
I don't have Shockwave yet, an I'd still like him, but if I can't get him for a reasonable price I'll wait for a big sale and grab whichever version of the mold I see first. Firefight was always one of my favorite toys as a kid, so he'd certainly have a place next to his granddaddy.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441474)
Posted by Autobot032 on November 21st, 2012 @ 5:51pm CST
Posted by Autobot032 on November 21st, 2012 @ 5:51pm CST
Hmm. I think Kickback's going to become my PRID Insecticon. He's as close as we're going to get, and as it was said in the review, he seems to fit Prime just a bit better than FOC.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441493)
Posted by Overcracker on November 21st, 2012 @ 7:51pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on November 21st, 2012 @ 7:51pm CST
That mold works really well for Sideswipe., better than it did for Jazz, and Jazz is a pretty good figure already.
Magnus looks ver cool, and that sword just completes the otherwise lackluster Prime mold.
Starscream is just O.K.
The insecticon is a must.
And somehow Fireflight makes that mold his own. Shockwave was a little disappointing, but Firelight just works.
Magnus looks ver cool, and that sword just completes the otherwise lackluster Prime mold.
Starscream is just O.K.
The insecticon is a must.
And somehow Fireflight makes that mold his own. Shockwave was a little disappointing, but Firelight just works.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441510)
Posted by Dammitman on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:23pm CST
Posted by Dammitman on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:23pm CST
The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441514)
Posted by Dammitman on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:29pm CST
I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1
Posted by Dammitman on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:29pm CST
PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.
But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.
I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441524)
Posted by Overcracker on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:49pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:49pm CST
The insecticons show up in season 2. However the only named one is Hardshell. The rest are just his army of Insecticons. like the vehicons
But Kickback is in the FOC game prominently, you fight him as Grimlock.
So not sure why this would be a Prime figure.
But Kickback is in the FOC game prominently, you fight him as Grimlock.
So not sure why this would be a Prime figure.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441528)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:58pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 21st, 2012 @ 9:58pm CST
He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441558)
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 21st, 2012 @ 11:32pm CST
You misunderstood me. Kickback isn't in Prime at all. I never said that. What I said was that Prime and FoC are part of the same universe. So, Kickback is in the Prime universe. He's not in the Prime cartoon.
Posted by PrymeStriker on November 21st, 2012 @ 11:32pm CST
Dammitman wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Technically, Kickback is in the Prime universe. Prime and FoC are part of the same continuity family.
But I get it. His design is slightly more Prime-esque than FoC.
I haven't seen season 2 of Prime but Kickback is definitely not in season 1
You misunderstood me. Kickback isn't in Prime at all. I never said that. What I said was that Prime and FoC are part of the same universe. So, Kickback is in the Prime universe. He's not in the Prime cartoon.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441570)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on November 22nd, 2012 @ 1:02am CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on November 22nd, 2012 @ 1:02am CST
both look good but we all know where i stand on deluxes, until the price drops or they go on sale i wont be getting them.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441643)
Posted by kirbenvost on November 22nd, 2012 @ 10:47am CST
Posted by kirbenvost on November 22nd, 2012 @ 10:47am CST
I guess if Kickback is actually in the game I'll display him with the WFC/FoC figs. Bur he does look very Prime-like in aesthetic.
Air Raid is pretty awesome. The alt mode looks too much like Shockwave, but otherwise he's great. Maybe I can work out some sort of fan-mode that's a little more plane-like. Very badass with the weapons. I might give his small sword to another figure, but it depends.
EDIT- Picture with Air Raid colors/weapons:
Type 1:
Type 2 (My favorite):
More views will be posted in the Things your Transformers Can Do That You Never Realised thread.
Air Raid is pretty awesome. The alt mode looks too much like Shockwave, but otherwise he's great. Maybe I can work out some sort of fan-mode that's a little more plane-like. Very badass with the weapons. I might give his small sword to another figure, but it depends.
EDIT- Picture with Air Raid colors/weapons:
Type 1:
Type 2 (My favorite):
More views will be posted in the Things your Transformers Can Do That You Never Realised thread.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441686)
Posted by Motorthing on November 22nd, 2012 @ 2:24pm CST
Posted by Motorthing on November 22nd, 2012 @ 2:24pm CST
Kapow have just sent me my Magnus so they are obviously about to hit......glad I didn't bother to pre-order Air Raid cos that looks as lazy and pointless as I thought when I heard Has were just going to repaint Shockwave. Sideswipe should be on the way to me too.
I like Magnus much better than Op....I just wish his chin wasn't so pointy and they had made both characters the Voyagers they should have been.
I like Magnus much better than Op....I just wish his chin wasn't so pointy and they had made both characters the Voyagers they should have been.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441982)
Posted by TheSprinkle42 on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:01am CST
Posted by TheSprinkle42 on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:01am CST
Okay, am I the only one who sees this?
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1441983)
Posted by RAcast on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:04am CST
Nope, haha.
Posted by RAcast on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:04am CST
TheSprinkle42 wrote:Okay, am I the only one who sees this?
Nope, haha.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442055)
Posted by craggy on November 24th, 2012 @ 7:17pm CST
Posted by craggy on November 24th, 2012 @ 7:17pm CST
okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.
I like this turn of events.
I like this turn of events.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442068)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:05pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 24th, 2012 @ 9:05pm CST
It as supposed to be Fireflight, but the name was changed at the last minute. His bio also resembles that of G1 Fireflight.craggy wrote:okay. He has the same name as an Aerialbot, but I don't see Air Raid as being one. Takara's Air Raid is so different in colourscheme that he too looks like a completely different character.
I like this turn of events.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442111)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 25th, 2012 @ 10:14am CST
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 25th, 2012 @ 10:14am CST
To me Sideswipe looks a bit top-heavy. Thats way I also saw Animated Hot Rod, too beefy on top and weak looking in the legs. You know who had it worst of all was Energon OP, just horrible IMHO. There is no question that UM looks brilliant and the Hasbro version looks perfect with no need for Takara's. I am stuck on choosing which SS to get. The aesthetics over all look good and this from someone who has never played the games, don't need it to see what's good and what ain't...'nuff said! 
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442198)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 25th, 2012 @ 9:39pm CST
Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.
That was a little extra harsh... But still...
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 25th, 2012 @ 9:39pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.
That was a little extra harsh... But still...
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442206)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 25th, 2012 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 25th, 2012 @ 10:16pm CST
It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's not the same Air Raid as the one from the video games. His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.Dammitman wrote:The Kickback looks decent enough but as for Air Raid. Really? A Shockwave repaint? Notice in the game he was not a repaint of Shockwave. Kudos to Hasbro for cutting corners and skimping on product. It doesn't even really look that good for Shockwave to be honest. Hasbro is shooting themselves in the foot with crap like that and really need to step up their game if they want to compete with 3rd party manufacturers who actually make a better product.
Honestly, I think that makes it worse. And to be quite honest, I was kinda looking forward to having an FoC Air Raid figure. A real one... Not this joke.
That was a little extra harsh... But still...
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442293)
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:36am CST
If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:36am CST
Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.
If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442297)
Posted by craggy on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:45am CST
you're new to Transformers, aren't you?
Posted by craggy on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:45am CST
Dammitman wrote:Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.
If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
you're new to Transformers, aren't you?
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442301)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:52am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2012 @ 11:52am CST
Dammitman wrote:Sabrblade wrote: His on-package toy bio gives him an entirely different personality as WFC Air Raid. Same name, different character.
If it is a different character then market him as such. Don't put him on a Fall of Cybertron card if it is not the same character. That is just an insult to the Fans' intelligence.
Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442307)
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:19pm CST
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:19pm CST
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you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]
Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.
you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]
Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442308)
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:28pm CST
All I am hearing here is more excuses as to why a big toy company can screw its fans and not any real justification whatsoever.
Posted by Dammitman on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:28pm CST
[/quote]Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
All I am hearing here is more excuses as to why a big toy company can screw its fans and not any real justification whatsoever.
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442310)
Posted by craggy on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:30pm CST
you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]
Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.[/quote]
not having a go at you, just saying that it's not new that Hasbro does completely random things with naming their toys sometimes
Posted by craggy on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:30pm CST
Dammitman wrote:
you're new to Transformers, aren't you?[/quote]
Gosh darn it you got me. I don't know anything about Transformers beyond what Michael Bay taught me.[/quote]
not having a go at you, just saying that it's not new that Hasbro does completely random things with naming their toys sometimes
Re: Pictorials Reviews: Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron Deluxe Starscream, Sideswipe, & Ultra Magnus (1442311)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:32pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2012 @ 12:32pm CST
I don't see what the big deal is. We know it isn't "Air Raid (WFC)", so it's something like "Air Raid (FOC)". If that's still too much to handle, just call the toy "Fireflight" and call it a day.Dammitman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It was supposed to be Fireflight, especially given his very "Fireflight-y" bio, but it was changed at the last minute probably due to some issue with them being unable to use that name.
All I am hearing here is more excuses as to why a big toy company can screw its fans and not any real justification whatsoever.
