Potential Transformers Generations Discarded or Upcoming Prowl Prototype
Saturday, March 7th, 2015 9:33AM CST
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UPDATE: As pointed out by Seibertron.com user rickdraco, this does look almost identical to the Beast Hunters simplified Deluxe Smokescreen mold, with the addition of police lights - compare the two images below!
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Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:38am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:39am CST
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:43am CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna go with 2015 RID Prowl not CW.
Your face is RID15.
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:46am CST
Va'al wrote:Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna go with 2015 RID Prowl not CW.
Your face is RID15.
Posted by rickdraco on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:46am CST
Posted by ScottyP on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:49am CST
rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.
I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.
Posted by gothsaurus on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:52am CST
Since there is a combiner prowl coming soon, I doubt Hasbro would put two deluxes on the shelf at the same time. I'm guessing this is either combiner wars Prowl… Or another police character entirely, which may or may not be in rid2015.
I guess my money is on the former. Looks like the right proportions. Still I would be sad if his entire chest is it made out of the car. That is the iconic look for him and jazz… And the other Datsun brothers
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:52am CST
ScottyP wrote:rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.
I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.
Ah! we may be onto something there!
Posted by ScottyP on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:56am CST
Va'al wrote:ScottyP wrote:rickdraco wrote:Hmm, from the looks of it, that proto is pretty blatantly based on the simplified deluxe prime Smokescreen mold.
I knew that car looked familiar. That's it, just with police lights on it.
Ah! we may be onto something there!
Yep, and the police lights are just pegged into that hole at the top of the car. Dead on the same mold otherwise (head notwithstanding which can't be seen). I'd suspect this is either something that got canceled, or something going into RiD 2015.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 9:57am CST
Posted by Gallifreyan Autobot on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by rickdraco on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:23am CST
Also this is a face palm moment now that someone pointed out that it's smokescreen ... After all normal smokescreen was retooled into beast hunters prowl and legions smokescreen was turned into legions prowl
Posted by Sigmus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:26am CST
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:29am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:37am CST
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Another repaint/retool? Come on now, we had this already! Why are there not any more new molds for these characters? I feel insulted by this bologna! Who is controlling this?!
Bologna?
Hasbro are obviously trying to get costs covered. A lot of money goes into designing these toys and engineering. Especially if they are to have gimmicks. Repaints and retools cost far less and allow for more toys to be added to the lines.
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:38am CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:39am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Another repaint/retool? Come on now, we had this already! Why are there not any more new molds for these characters? I feel insulted by this bologna! Who is controlling this?!
Bologna?
Hasbro are obviously trying to get costs covered. A lot of money goes into designing these toys and engineering. Especially if they are to have gimmicks. Repaints and retools cost far less and allow for more toys to be added to the lines.
Why are we assuming these are prototypes for upcoming figures and not abandoned prototypes that never went beyond that stage?
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:42am CST
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:56am CST
Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 10:58am CST
*falls asleep*
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:01am CST
Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:03am CST
Give the kid a prize!ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:23am CST
Posted by Madeus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:55am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 7th, 2015 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CST
Can't remember which thread, but this happened to me in the last 2 or 3 days too.Sabrblade wrote:Okay, strange thing just happened to me, here. Before typing this post, I hadn't made a post in this thread, nor did I subscribe to it. I had, however, taken a look at it, but nothing more. Yet, just now, I got a new post email alert for this topic like I do for other topics I'm subscribed to. Wha?
Posted by Agamemnon on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Okay, strange thing just happened to me, here. Before typing this post, I hadn't made a post in this thread, nor did I subscribe to it. I had, however, taken a look at it, but nothing more. Yet, just now, I got a new post email alert for this topic like I do for other topics I'm subscribed to. Wha?
I was thinking the same thing. Did this start in the CW thread and get moved? That's my best guess.
I do like the look, but it doesn't feel too CW to me. If this comes out in the RID line, I think I'll get it.
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:47pm CST
That must be it. I got notification from the CW Leader Class thread, which was also moved fro the CW thread.Agamemnon wrote:I was thinking the same thing. Did this start in the CW thread and get moved? That's my best guess.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2015 @ 12:50pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CST
Posted by Va'al on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:12pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah this was spun out of the combiner wars thread. I think it was moved once someone pointed out it was the prime smokescreen mold
Strange that subscriptions carry on from old thread though..
Posted by Agamemnon on March 7th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CST
Va'al wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah this was spun out of the combiner wars thread. I think it was moved once someone pointed out it was the prime smokescreen mold
Strange that subscriptions carry on from old thread though..
Now I am wondering if I lost my CW subscription...
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Will why did you quote me to say that ill sign on to the cancelled prototypes though (unless they have a phase were a big prototype is made before they are shrank, if that's the case then it's legions prowl)
Well, I wanted to quote OptimalOptimus2 since my reply was directly related to what he was saying. But I liked what you said and wanted to keep it in the discussion too.
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:It makes sense that Hasbro would prototype the BH Upsized Smokescreen mold as Prowl since they did the same thing in the Legions line. My guess is the figure was scrapped when they decided not to go forward with the Upsized line.
A million times this. I played with the idea of Hasbro having the cheek to release it as an R.I.D Warrior but I think even they'd be too smart to go there.
What Chuck said, no more than that.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 4:55pm CST
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:13pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.
It isn't anyone. It could have been either of those. If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:15pm CST
The 2nd half of that sentence makes no sense.Mr O wrote:If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:22pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:The 2nd half of that sentence makes no sense.Mr O wrote:If it is anyone, it's Smokescreen with beacons what that never was, but would have been Prowl, but wasn't, like.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why are you so certain it's Prowl? It could be Barricade.
I'm reminded of "The Bear that wasn't"...
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:26pm CST
Edit:- Also, I'm Welsh. To a Welsh, it makes sense.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 7th, 2015 @ 5:33pm CST
Posted by Mr O on March 7th, 2015 @ 6:37pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.
Essentially, exactly. Just in Welsh.
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Give the kid a prize!ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3
Posted by Burn on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:27pm CST
ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Give the kid a prize!ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3
You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")
Posted by Moosey on March 7th, 2015 @ 7:47pm CST
Burn wrote:ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Give the kid a prize!ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3
You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")
Oh, didn't realize that, sorry for being a klutz..... Somehow "Moosey" was already taken..
Posted by Cobotron on March 7th, 2015 @ 8:27pm CST
Moosey :3 wrote:Burn wrote:ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Give the kid a prize!ThatOneMoose wrote:Cobotron wrote:Ya. Because Va'al said so.Va'al wrote:Because I said so.
These are totally abandoned concepts on display at a museum in an exhibit about the process of making toys.
Good one Moosey!
Yay! I won!
I like prizes... Pretty please admins can I has name change to Moosey? :3
You SHOULD be able to do that yourself through the control panel.
(I could probably do it but it might stuff up your login and then you'd be e-mailing me and I'd be all "gah ... should have just done it himself *rage* *blargle* *smash*")
Oh, didn't realize that, sorry for being a klutz..... Somehow "Moosey" was already taken..
HEY!
MOOSEY!
you did it!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 8th, 2015 @ 1:15am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.
Shrodingers Toy?
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 8th, 2015 @ 4:08am CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Will why did you quote me to say that ill sign on to the cancelled prototypes though (unless they have a phase were a big prototype is made before they are shrank, if that's the case then it's legions prowl)
Well, I wanted to quote OptimalOptimus2 since my reply was directly related to what he was saying. But I liked what you said and wanted to keep it in the discussion too.
ah I understand, no foul here then
Posted by Agamemnon on March 8th, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So you're saying as it currently stands, it's nobody as it has no proper characterization as a prototype, it's simply "Smokescreen with a light bar". But would it have been released, it most certainly would have been Prowl, but since it wasn't released, it's not Prowl.
Shrodingers Toy?
Love. It.