Randomized Cards With Different Prime Powers Confirmed for Transformers Power of the Primes Toyline With Examples

So by my count...

Wave 1
Liege Maximo
(w/ Skullgrin Decoy Armor)
Micronus
(w/ Cloudburst Decoy Armor)
Vector Prime
(w/ Metalhawk Decoy Armor)

Wave 2
Alchemist Prime
(w/ Submarauder Decoy Armor)
Alpha Trion
(w/ Landmine Decoy Armor)

Future waves

Prima
(w/ Sky High Decoy Armor)
Nexus Prime
(w/ Splashdown Decoy Armor)
Solus Prime
(w/ Groundbreaker Decoy Armor)
Amalgamous Prime
(w/ Bugly Decoy Armor)
Quintus Prime
(w/ Finback Decoy Armor)
Onyx Prime
(w/ Iguanus Decoy Armor)
Megatronus
(w/ Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor)

NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Oh god...you know there’s gonna be that one guy that just starts grabbing everything so he can have every card for characters...

I can hear ScottyP's screams into the empty card collector folders now.

If anybody knows how to read the Cybertronian font, I think we just got the names of the Waves 4-6 Prime Masters on the dials of those cards.

Hasbro revealed with their Transformers Power of the Primes product descriptions that the SRPs for the line were going to follow the price hike seen in the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline. The price hike wasn't felt too badly in the US due to there being a healthy competition in the toy market and stores like Walmart not changing their established price points from previous lines, along with the fact that the price hike in USD was not as egregious as, say, 30-100%. However, in other countries, like Australia and Canada, the price hike was massive, and felt throughout the fan community of these respective countries. For instance, Canada's price for deluxes went from $20 to $30 which is a 50% increase in price (This also comes to show how having fewer competitors in a market can wreak havoc for consumers.)

So the fact that Hasbro's SRPs for the Power of the Primes line was showing the same SRP as the Last Knight toyline was alarming. Thanks to the very first listings from a big box retailer, on Toysrus.ca, we now know that the Power of the Primes toys will not be following the price hike for the Transformers: The Last Knight toyline. They will instead keep their $20 for deluxe, $30 for voyager and $60 for leader price points which sure beat the respective $30, $40, $75 price points for the current movie line (all prices in $CAD of course).

What is interesting to see here is that this may indicate that the price hike may not have had a positive impact on toy sales and thus lowered. We already saw signs of this when both Walmart and Toysrus, the only big box toy retailers in Canada, lowered their prices for the TLK toys at the same time to better fit the prices of previous lines. It is unknown if that means Hasbro is still selling them at the same unit price as previous lines or at a higher price (accounting for their higher SRP) but retailers choosing to sell for less, which is the case with deluxes in the US at the moment. We still do not know how the US SRP will be reflected in other countries who had a major price hike with the movie toys.

Also, the listings give us the SKN numbers for three different classes:

Leader: 368657
Voyager: 368655
Deluxe: 368652

This can come very handy when asking if a toy from this particular line is in stock.

Madeus Prime wrote:So by my count...

Wave 1
Liege Maximo
(w/ Skullgrin Decoy Armor)
Micronus
(w/ Cloudburst Decoy Armor)
Vector Prime
(w/ Metalhawk Decoy Armor)

Wave 2
Alchemist Prime
(w/ Submarauder Decoy Armor)
Alpha Trion
(w/ Landmine Decoy Armor)

Future waves

Prima
(w/ Sky High Decoy Armor)
Nexus Prime
(w/ Splashdown Decoy Armor)
Solus Prime
(w/ Groundbreaker Decoy Armor)
Amalgamous Prime
(w/ Bugly Decoy Armor)
Quintus Prime
(w/ Finback Decoy Armor)
Onyx Prime
(w/ Iguanus Decoy Armor)
Megatronus
(w/ Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor)

NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Not all 12 original Pretenders will be used, only the first wave it looks like. The leaks have shown the likes of Octopunch and Bludgeon, so the smaller ones are fair game too.

RodimusRex wrote:If anybody knows how to read the Cybertronian font, I think we just got the names of the Waves 4-6 Prime Masters on the dials of those cards.

The language is all on the wiki just look it up

Va'al wrote:I can hear ScottyP's screams into the empty card collector folders now.

I can hear Megatronus joining him in agony

Madeus Prime wrote:NOTE: I only theorize about the pairings, but given there are 12 Primes (omitting Optimus/the Arisen, because that seems like a doubtful release) and 12 original Pretenders, this lineup isn't too far out of the question.

Here is wave 3

Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

You can check this post for all the info on everything we know https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... nts/39844/

Who wants more Power of the Primes in hand images? Well, the internet is bursting with them but two fans, Gallade and Anguirus have provided short pictorial reviews of Swoop and Slug respectively. What they show, which is something we did not see in today's video reviews, their limb modes. These two fans show Swoop and Slug in full on scramble city mode teamed up with Combiner Wars toys. Also, unlike the previous set of in hand images of them combined, these do not use add on kits so you can see how they look with the feet that came with the Combiner Wars figures (since the Power of the Primes feet only come with the voyagers and they aren't out yet). One other cool aspect is that we have confirmation of Titan Master ports on these toys, specifically Swoop with a fun image below.
So far these toys have been found only at Target and sightings seem to be spreading across the country. Let us know if you find one near you in our sightings section and sightings forum.

william-james88 wrote:Here is wave 3

Quintus Prime and Bludgeon Decoy Armor, Megatronus and Bomb-Burst Decoy Armor, Solus Prime and Octopunch Decoy Armor

You can check this post for all the info on everything we know https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... nts/39844/

I stand corrected, sorry for jumping the gun, I just saw a pattern and thought it fit. I missed out on that blurb.

Still kinda want a Bugly and Finback suit though...

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:There, I said it, I've still got movie bee and slash and wave 3 (hotrod/doublecross) chillin warmin up my town :

You know, I don't think it's wave 3 that's loitering, it's that damn revision wave that had Hotrod, Twinferno, and who ever else that everyone already bought that is the culprit. For the last 4 weeks the 3 Targets I frequent, have each had 4 Twinfernos and nothing else. It's driving me nuts. I NEED SOME TWIN TWIST DAM MOTT!

while I cant speak for the hot rods, what cobotron is seeing is definitely the revision wave. I will make a news post about it since I see a lot of confusion. Its actually new (not that anyone wanted it)
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ion/39261/

I know in my situation I'm absolutely swimming in wave 3. I have 3 stores that I frequent at least once a week, sometimes more. The Augusta, ME Walmart was nothing but case after case of wave 3 since November 2016 until a few months back when we got that wave 2 revision set with all of the Autobot Headmasters plus Blurr and Scourge. Those sold out fairly well, leaving just two Hot Rods and a Twinferno from previous stock and nothing new since because somebody decided to fill the TR Deluxe pegs with those TLK Allspark figures while leaving the pegs they're supposed to be on empty. No wave 4, 5, or 6 there or revision wave 4.

The second store is the Augusta Target which was also nothing but wave 3 until the summer when they got one case of wave 4, but all that was left was Kup, Krok, and Quake. I already had Takara Tomy's Kup on order at this point and passed on the other two thinking I'd certainly be able to get them for less at Walmart soon. If I knew then what I knew now I would have bought the both right then. After that it was right back to wave 3. No wave 5 or 6 or revision wave 4.

The third store is the Waterville Walmart which is on my way home from work so I go there the most frequently. This store didn't get anything but wave 3 from November 2016 to just a few weeks ago when they surprisingly got a wave 6 case in (and two cases of Overlord, only place I've seen him). That's how I got my Slugslinger, but the one remaining and the two Kups (wasn't interested anyway) and one Hardhead were gone in two days leaving just the two Hot Rods with what was left of the previous wave 3 case they put up. Neither version of wave 4 or wave 5 here.

Funny thing is the only figures among waves 4 and 5 that I absolutely want is Quake and Misfire (since I managed to find Krok while out of the town over the weekend, at a Target of course). The rest I have the Takara Tomy versions on order, but I wouldn't be against owning both versions of some of these if I found them. It's just that this sort of distribution gives me little faith when it comes to Power of the Primes. I also haven't seen any sign of Blitzwing, Octane, Ramhorn, Seaspray, or Cosmos. I'm sure the first three waves of PotP will be easy enough to find, but after that I'll probably be in the same situation I'm in now. CW wasn't much different, I only saw the Protectobots once at one store and never again, my first time seeing Onslaught was at T.J.Maxx, and I've never seen a Hasbro Sky Lynx in person (which was apparently common).

Emerje

Ross Dress 4 Less was the only place I ever saw CW Sky Lynx in-person. So naturally, I bought one for me, and another for my bff since he had no luck hunting either.

I never saw deluxes at the discount stores -- unless you count the CW boxsets, and the Platinum Dinobots set. I don't expect to see Misfire there, but I'm still hoping he makes it to Target around Xmas.

I can't wait to see the PotP here...I gotta have Dreadwind.

bodrock wrote:Ross Dress 4 Less was the only place I ever saw CW Sky Lynx in-person. So naturally, I bought one for me, and another for my bff since he had no luck hunting either.

Yeah, I think that was the case for most people at Ross and T.J.Maxx, unfortunately all I found there (between two stores) was all five Combaticons (already had the UW set), Scattershot (didn't want), Battle Core Optimus Prime (bought), and a single G2 Stunticon box set (bought).

Emerje

Oh, I'm so glad that they made the descriptions for these powers oh so specific. Or actually doable for the actual toy. Like Amalgamous Swoop's ability to "shift to the most fearful form". So glad they're following TR's example with this.

Can't wait for this line to become more available, in all honesty, though.

So using Brickseek, I was able to track these down about half an hour away. Got Swoop and Slug after they pulled a case from the back for me. I REALLY like how Jazz looks but I can't go too crazy right now. I will get Grimlock and Rodimus ASAP.

Emerje wrote:

bodrock wrote:Ross Dress 4 Less was the only place I ever saw CW Sky Lynx in-person. So naturally, I bought one for me, and another for my bff since he had no luck hunting either.

Yeah, I think that was the case for most people at Ross and T.J.Maxx, unfortunately all I found there (between two stores) was all five Combaticons (already had the UW set), Scattershot (didn't want), Battle Core Optimus Prime (bought), and a single G2 Stunticon box set (bought).

Emerje

I bought the G2 Stunticons as well! Skipped on Superion, White CW Optimus, lots of Skywarps...no luck on Fort Max, Combaticons or Computron in Oregon. I'm excited to see what's available this year....!

Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

bodrock wrote:I never saw deluxes at the discount stores -- unless you count the CW boxsets, and the Platinum Dinobots set. I don't expect to see Misfire there, but I'm still hoping he makes it to Target around Xmas.

Don't give up hope. I found CW Wheeljack, Ironhide and Trailbreaker at 3 different TJ Maxx or Marshalls stores last year before Christmas. Perfect timing for me as I already had them all as their original characters, but toyhax came out with the X-tinguisher, Smolder and Fallen sticker sets, so my Battle Core Nova Prime (another sticker set) finally got some limbs of his own.

For TJ Maxx and Marshalls specifically, you need to look in both the toy section, as well as the aisle that leads to the checkout. I found 2 of the 3 at the aisle of the checkout instead of the toy section. Plus a few Swindles that I didn't want/need/already had.

wow! So much fun! I cannot wait

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

bodrock wrote:I never saw deluxes at the discount stores -- unless you count the CW boxsets, and the Platinum Dinobots set. I don't expect to see Misfire there, but I'm still hoping he makes it to Target around Xmas.

Don't give up hope. I found CW Wheeljack, Ironhide and Trailbreaker at 3 different TJ Maxx or Marshalls stores last year before Christmas. Perfect timing for me as I already had them all as their original characters, but toyhax came out with the X-tinguisher, Smolder and Fallen sticker sets, so my Battle Core Nova Prime (another sticker set) finally got some limbs of his own.

For TJ Maxx and Marshalls specifically, you need to look in both the toy section, as well as the aisle that leads to the checkout. I found 2 of the 3 at the aisle of the checkout instead of the toy section. Plus a few Swindles that I didn't want/need/already had.

Thank you for sharing! I had added TJ & Marshalls to the hunt last year but didn't look near checkout. Here's hoping -- HAPPY HUNTING

A pattern I've noticed in my area (though it may not apply to all)...Is that TRU seems to be a bit more reliable, however 1. Obviously they are more expensive 2. Items appear months after being found in other places. I have seen the entirety of TR appear at TRU, though they currently have most of wave 4, which appeared 4 or so months ago at several Targets & Wal Marts in my area.

I still have not seen wave 5 deluxes anywhere, but if I expect to see them anywhere at all, it will probably be at TRU between now and the end of the year. basically TRU is my one hope I'm holding out of seeing Ramhorn. I know one person found ONE at a Midwest retail chain, but the fact that Ramhorn has not appeared at any of the 3 major chains, and really isn't even on eBay aside form a couple scalpers, tell me it still hasn't been released in mass market anywhere other than in some Asian countries. Not sure about Canada...

omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

Don't worry, Chucky will have you covered.

o.supreme wrote: but the fact that Ramhorn has not appeared at any of the 3 major chains, and really isn't even on eBay aside form a couple scalpers, tell me it still hasn't been released in mass market anywhere other than in some Asian countries. Not sure about Canada...

There will be news soon

omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

Yeah so did I , especially since there was so little seen of it before. Hence why I posted that news. But I know why it wasnt reviewed, it would have taken more time and the reviewer wanted it up asap , which is understandable. But whats important is that we now have everything in one way or another

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

Don't worry, Chucky will have you covered.

wha...? are you putting your video reviews up just now?

if you are....oh goody

The combiner hands don't really look like armor or guns, which just has me thinking that it's too bad the deluxe class figures can't wear them more like power fists.

omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

Speaking of which....go check Toy Dojo's YouTube channel out, as he's currently reviewing the figures and shows them in limb mode (but don't forget to also check Chuck's out too when he has his reviews uploaded)


btw is noone holding off to get the versions?

Please tell me Hasbro Plans on selling sets of these cards later. I would like to get a full set, but I'm not going to randomly buy figures in hopes of getting the all.

I think I might ebay the cards I pull. That might (effectively) shave a little off the cost of collecting the figures.

I wonder if this will lead to card collectors out there selling off large numbers of out-of-package figures...

c'mon news team! get the Rodimus Unicronus TRU listings item up!

Oops!

It's here
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ada/40024/

Yep, I am keeping Swoop and slag as legs. They looks good as either limb though! And Swoop is my favorite looking Dinobot at the moment.

I am gonna wait for this to come to my closer stores, I'm in no rush to start this line considering I just got slugslinger.

Also, was thinking about this, and someone mentioned it back a bit ago, but what if Takara did some sort of fancy japanese only character combiner to use some of the molds to get them released? I remember Artfire and Stepper mentioned, but who else could work to make a slapdash combiner of japanese guys? That would be awesome

San Diego folks -

Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.

Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -

Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.

Brickseek, why haven't I ever heard of this before today? Seems like a super useful site even if it isn't showing any PotP figures in my state.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Rysquad wrote:San Diego folks -

Looks like Target in Santee put a case in it's system. I checked the Target DCPI number for PotP Deluxe (087-06-5863) on Brickseek this morning and saw that they had them in stock. Of course, they weren't out on the floor but politely asked if they could check the back, which showed 6 figures. The Target Team Member brought out an opened case - looked like someone asked before I did. Picked up Dreadwind but left Swoop (2), Slag (2) and Jazz (1) in the box.

Brickseek, why haven't I ever heard of this before today? Seems like a super useful site even if it isn't showing any PotP figures in my state.

Emerje

It's an awesome tool. Purchased many items on discount or clearance from Target and Walmart using tools like Brickseek. Haven't really used it much for Transformers at Target since most of the time, the DCPI is used for multiple figures of the same class.

* disclaimer - it's a good tool to plan out where to check for stuff. There's absolutely no guarantee that the data is 100% correct. An item could be somewhere else on the floor, in someone else's shopping cart, or stolen, or the employees could be holding them for themselves or others, or they're actually paying attention to street dates.

Considering that most of these figures apparently look a lot better in-hand, I'm hoping Grimlock turns out okay after all.

No love at Target, still, or TRU -- bought Evil Rick & Morty as consolation.

Via online retailer SouthernHobby, we have listings for the Wave 2 assortments of Power of the Primes, and with them breakdowns of the case contents for Prime Master, Voyager, and Leader classes!

A Wave 2 case of Prime Masters (listed as Power Masters on their site) will reportedly consist of:
- Skullgrin [with Liege Maximo] x 2
- Metalhawk [with Vector Prime] x 2
- Submarauder [with Alchemist Prime] x 4
- Landmine [with Alpha Trion] x 4
Of note here is the fact that the new figures in Wave 2 (Submarauder and Landmine) are packed four per case, while the repacks from Wave 1 are only packed at two per case. The new toys being twice as common as the older ones is good news for collectors - that means there should be a good chance of seeing them around instead of just more Wave 1 figures!

A case of Voyagers contains:
- Hun-Gurrr x 1
- Elita-1 x 1
Which are both new toys to Wave 2, so no repacks at all here. It may mean that Grimlock and Starscream will be a touch less common than if they'd been repacked in Wave 2, but it also means that Hun-Gurr and Elita-1 should be plentiful once this wave hits.

And finally, a Leader case is comprised of:
- Optimus Prime x 1
- Rodimus Unicronus x 1
Meaning that from what we know, the Leader class has the lowest ratio of new to repacked toys in this wave, at 1:1. Those looking for Rodimus Unicronus may find him surrounded by a considerable number of Optimus Primes hailing from both Waves 1 and 2. However, we also know that Optimus does tend to sell quite well, so these cases will likely have a high turnover regardless and Rodimus Unicronus should still be relatively common on store shelves.

The site also has listings for Legends and Deluxe assortments, but there's no information on what the breakdowns of these cases will look like as of yet. Rest assured we'll share those as soon as information arises, but for now, we'd love to hear what you have to say in the Energon Pub! Do these assortments look good to you, or would you have preferred a different ratio of certain figures? Share your thoughts on what we have so far, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Power of the Primes news as it happens!

Found all four thanks to the DCPI!

Only opened Dreadwind so far, but I'm very impressed. Tight joints, tidy tampographs, and seeing them now in hand, I realize that yes, you can use the hand/heel thing as a power gauntlet. Every single one of the figures in wave one has a 5mm port on it's forearm, so you can attach the fist and close it around their lower arm.

Sorry this is sideways, but I think it gets the point across anyway.

Ready for battle.

Nah, not enough weapons.

Got 'em too, thanks to brickseek; serious props to whomever posted that link and the dpci;

Only got slug, swoop, and dreadwind.

Swoop and Dreadwind are both 10+/10.

-lusciously tight joints

-amazing paint apps (few but well used)

-soft detents everywhere

-nice use of plastic colors

-finally got 4 jets for cyclonus

-dreadwind has massive heels thanks to the wing kibble

-swoop is just sublime in general, specifically, you can attach his sword under his chin in beast mode to have a pterodactyl with a bayonet - how f'ing metal is that?

-tm ports in fists should not be overlooked for sheer fun value, or underestimated, I'm not getting grimlock, but I relish the opportunity to have grimlock as a combiner punch out king 'scream with a grimlock tm in his fist

tl:dr, as limbs these guys are must-haves, as figures, they are also must-haves; something tells me 's legends comics are gonna have a field day with headmaster-in-fist/bibs shenanigans, and I can't wait

The instructions don’t show it, but you can attach Swoop’s combiner hand on his back. Nice storage.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

omega666 wrote:Thanks for showing the limb modes. I thought it was pretty half-assed to post a video review and not show the limb mode.

Don't worry, Chucky will have you covered.

wha...? are you putting your video reviews up just now?

if you are....oh goody

I'll get them on Wednesday. The plan is two reviews of two.

The Prime/hand module is supposed to fit on the chest as well. I'll figure it out soon enough. I do have to say I'm quite displeased with this wave trickle. Would be nice to have ALL the classes released at the same time.

Has anyone tried putting Ptero in Swoop's chest armor? Not sure if it would be awesome or just disturbing.

I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?

Caelus wrote:I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?

Not at all! Sounds like it would help you appreciate them as a team - and as a combiner. Volcanicus needs all the help he can get!

The main problem I see is a very, very long wait for Wave 2.

Caelus wrote:I haven't opened Swoop yet - I'm strongly considering waiting until I've collected all the Dinobots to open them. Does that sound insane?

Yes, very

In all seriousness, my personal suggestion would be to open him now. I find that I appreciate my Transformers - even those who're defined by their teams - much more when they each have a bit of time to themselves, so to speak. Opening five toys at once and trying to enjoy them, plus a combined mode, all together might end up robbing each figure of its individual charm, and that would be a sad thing indeed.

But hey, that's only my two cents. You do you, friend! Whatever makes you happy - that's the point of all this, after all.

Latebrus-K wrote:The main problem I see is a very, very long wait for Wave 2.

Ugh, yes. How long? February? March? I doubt it will be 'early' the way Wave 1 was, so it seems like we're going to have a loooooong gap in here.

Qwan wrote:Opening five toys at once and trying to enjoy them, plus a combined mode, all together might end up robbing each figure of its individual charm, and that would be a sad thing indeed.

Yeah, I was sort of thinking that.

OMG that DreadWing looks so good. Darkwind, Dreaddark, Windwing.
The lavender colered jet robot.

Makes me want to get every single normal released version of any Combiner Wars Jet mode to create a huge Armada!

Man, Muricanz. We don't have them yet in Holland, land of the RAIN!

But we have good import shops and good prices.

Combiner Wars overwhelmed me and exceeded all my expectations of the Classics followup line.

Titans Return is even more pure love.

And now... they combine it with tiny mech suits for the little Masters... Updated good Generations Dinobots, all of them... and they combine... and they have a baby Raptor with them. And they have even more G1 characters... Orion Pax who transforms into Optimus Prime, A real Rodimus Prime... I'm almost dying here of the awesomeness Hasbro / Takara is putting out. And they're trying to make the Titans Return mini series better than Combiner Wars.

Super awesome, all of this stuff, will probably get 75%+ of the entire line, just as combiner Wars and Titans Return before it. And I just started re-collecting Car Robots...

I can't take it... So much Transformers