Rare BTS Look at Cheetor Proof of Concept Using Moonracer Pieces
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Here is what Mark said on his Instagram page when he posted this image:
Beast Wars will always hold a special place in my heart, it was the series that got me back into Transformers. I had left briefly but energon was always still flowing in my veins.
Since toy making and engineering came such a long way from the late 90’s it was the perfect time for a resurgence. The idea of making maximals and predacons as close to the real thing as possible was just sooooo coooool! The Kingdom series literally knocked my socks off!
Here is the first initial concept figure for our lovable Cheetor. I was allowed to paint this without any restraints to help sell in the concept.
I had no idea that later on I’d be designing the Netflix release of this figure! Enjoy!
Trypticon Mock up, for reference
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Posted by sol magnus on March 31st, 2022 @ 9:20am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 31st, 2022 @ 9:30am CDT
Also, if anyone is interested, the Takara "Generations" mooks sometimes feature similar design ideas using spare parts, like Gundam "gunpla" model kit parts, etc.
Posted by Emerje on March 31st, 2022 @ 9:41am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I don't think the beast mode cheetah was cut up. It looks like the seams were simply painted onto the toy, too illustrate possible areas of transformation.
If you look closely you can were the light is catching edges, though I think it's more likely that he simply took an engraver to it and then painted in the new panel lines.
Pretty cool concept work, I really do miss the gun, though I would have been disappointed if it was just painted gun metal like that.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2022 @ 10:45am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 31st, 2022 @ 11:16am CDT
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 31st, 2022 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on March 31st, 2022 @ 12:08pm CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:What I find especially interesting is how much the show model resembles this, much moreso than the actual toy we got. I suspect this is what Mainframe was shown when they began building the character model.
Not unless they time traveled to see it.
As mentioned this Cheetor mockup uses the 2018 PotP Moonracer mold as a base, which obviously did not exist at the time Mainframe was making the CGI designs.
This is a concept for the Kingdom Line, not the original BW show.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2022 @ 2:42pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 31st, 2022 @ 2:47pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:My favorite story of a mockup is the kitbashed Energon Optimus that led to us getting Bayformers that actually transformed instead of using bullshit metal shapeshifting.
Sounds like a great story, do you have a link to it?
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on March 31st, 2022 @ 3:10pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:What I find especially interesting is how much the show model resembles this, much moreso than the actual toy we got. I suspect this is what Mainframe was shown when they began building the character model.
Not unless they time traveled to see it.
As mentioned this Cheetor mockup uses the 2018 PotP Moonracer mold as a base, which obviously did not exist at the time Mainframe was making the CGI designs.
This is a concept for the Kingdom Line, not the original BW show.
My bad.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on April 12th, 2022 @ 2:32pm CDT
He's back in stock on Pulse right now, if you're still looking.Starseeker wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:sol magnus wrote:Starseeker wrote:Those of you who are saying you got Terrorsaur, where are you getting him? Are you paying scalpers prices? I sure as heck am not paying 90 plus bucks for a deluxe figure.
Mine was from Pulse.
Mine too.
Same
You're all lucky then. Every time I check there he's been sold out. I guess I'll just have to hope he'll be back at some point.
Posted by Starseeker on April 12th, 2022 @ 8:47pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:He's back in stock on Pulse right now, if you're still looking.Starseeker wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:sol magnus wrote:Starseeker wrote:Those of you who are saying you got Terrorsaur, where are you getting him? Are you paying scalpers prices? I sure as heck am not paying 90 plus bucks for a deluxe figure.
Mine was from Pulse.
Mine too.
Same
You're all lucky then. Every time I check there he's been sold out. I guess I'll just have to hope he'll be back at some point.
Thanks. I snagged him on Amazon earlier in the day. 43 bucks, so a slight overpay, but worth it for a character I definitely want. I've learned quickly not to rely on Pulse for anything lol.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 13th, 2022 @ 8:02pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 13th, 2022 @ 11:09pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 14th, 2022 @ 7:51am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Your pics just made me realize that Core class Hot Rod could represent his post-Rodimus Prime Micromaster upgraded form, and now I kinda want Core class Hot Rod when I didn't before now.
This was why I bought the CW Legends Hot Rod, to stick him with Selects Star Convoy.
Emerje
Posted by Rtron on April 14th, 2022 @ 1:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Your pics just made me realize that Core class Hot Rod could represent his post-Rodimus Prime Micromaster upgraded form, and now I kinda want Core class Hot Rod when I didn't before now.
This was my thought when he was first revealed. Alternatively, you can just stand Commander Rodimus next to your Beast Wars figures, and consider him in scale with them, and bam, he's suddenly micro-master sized.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 15th, 2022 @ 7:02am CDT
Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Your pics just made me realize that Core class Hot Rod could represent his post-Rodimus Prime Micromaster upgraded form, and now I kinda want Core class Hot Rod when I didn't before now.
This was why I bought the CW Legends Hot Rod, to stick him with Selects Star Convoy.
Emerje
My CW Rodimus also serves as my Micromaster for Star Convoy. This core one is Iaconus' Commander
Posted by Rogue-Primal on May 2nd, 2022 @ 5:44pm CDT
Despite being a decent figure a few issues bug me.
-Purple wings and eyes
-The insect feet on his legs are not moveable, i wanted to try to move them backwards like on his arms but the insect legs fell out of their "mushroom joint sockets" and were difficult to fit back onto the figure.
-Barrel is barely noticeable on his gun, it's not visible in many photos.
These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 2nd, 2022 @ 7:38pm CDT
Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought a Waspinator figure for myself with spare change.
Despite being a decent figure a few issues bug me.
-Purple wings and eyes
-The insect feet on his legs are not moveable, i wanted to try to move them backwards like on his arms but the insect legs fell out of their "mushroom joint sockets" and were difficult to fit back onto the figure.
-Barrel is barely noticeable on his gun, it's not visible in many photos.
These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
A few things BUG you about Waspinator?
Posted by william-james88 on May 2nd, 2022 @ 7:41pm CDT
Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought a Waspinator figure for myself with spare change.
Despite being a decent figure a few issues bug me.
-Purple wings and eyes
-The insect feet on his legs are not moveable, i wanted to try to move them backwards like on his arms but the insect legs fell out of their "mushroom joint sockets" and were difficult to fit back onto the figure.
-Barrel is barely noticeable on his gun, it's not visible in many photos.
These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
Industry proffesionals and retailers all state that the kingdom line is selling well as a whole. Hence why we got an extra wave.
Posted by sol magnus on May 2nd, 2022 @ 7:45pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought a Waspinator figure for myself with spare change.
Despite being a decent figure a few issues bug me.
-Purple wings and eyes
-The insect feet on his legs are not moveable, i wanted to try to move them backwards like on his arms but the insect legs fell out of their "mushroom joint sockets" and were difficult to fit back onto the figure.
-Barrel is barely noticeable on his gun, it's not visible in many photos.
These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
Industry proffesionals and retailers all state that the kingdom line is selling well as a whole. Hence why we got an extra wave.
Check the 86 thread when you get a minute.
Posted by Emerje on May 2nd, 2022 @ 7:50pm CDT
Rogue-Primal wrote:These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
I'm surprised to hear this. Likely a regional thing, everything sells pretty well for most of us, there aren't a lot of reports of figures lingering for more than a few months which should be expected for any line. More often than not we've had reports of nearly two years of mostly empty shelves. Ractonite is the only retail Fossilizer I only have one of because he wasn't on shelves during Target sales or line end clearance. I'm especially surprised to hear Soundbarrier didn't sell as the ER Battle Masters all seemed to sell well since the ramps were really popular for making big bases, Smashdown never got a repaint and Rung is, well, Rung and wasn't easy to get in Siege. Pteraxadon was pretty popular for not being a gun, while the guns did sell a little slowly I think that's because there was so many of them at the time it was hard for people (kids, parents and collectors alike) to keep track of them.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 2nd, 2022 @ 8:39pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought a Waspinator figure for myself with spare change.
Despite being a decent figure a few issues bug me.
-Purple wings and eyes
-The insect feet on his legs are not moveable, i wanted to try to move them backwards like on his arms but the insect legs fell out of their "mushroom joint sockets" and were difficult to fit back onto the figure.
-Barrel is barely noticeable on his gun, it's not visible in many photos.
These toys are major all suffer from poor sales related to high pricing. Some barely sell Ractonite,Kingdom re-release of Arcee, Ravage+Laserbeak, Earthrise Rescue Patrol set, Earthrise Deccepticon Battle Squad set, Soundbarrier,Kingdom Core Class Starscream and Earthrise Battle Squad.
Worst ones are Pteraxadon and Siege Aimless
Industry proffesionals and retailers all state that the kingdom line is selling well as a whole. Hence why we got an extra wave.
Rogue-Primal is from Europe (and a remote part at that), where there are different sales trends depending on country. Getting half of any given line there is pretty much the max, with the rest as cheap grey import overstock after the lines end, usually found in drug stores or stores like the US's Five Below.
Posted by Rogue-Primal on May 3rd, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:Rogue-Primal is from Europe (and a remote part at that), where there are different sales trends depending on country. Getting half of any given line there is pretty much the max, with the rest as cheap grey import overstock after the lines end, usually found in drug stores or stores like the US's Five Below.
Sadly true we also seem to get most of our stuff really late and we have gotten a good selection in recent years including the studio series and even imports of two Premium Finish figures which i had never heard off. But they're really expensive even compared to regular stuff.
Premium Finish Siege Optimus
TakaraTomy ID number: PF WFC-01 PFGR 01
Hasbro ID number: GE-01
Studio Series Premium Finish Optimus
TakaraTomy ID number: PF SS-02
Hasbro ID number: SS-02
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 15th, 2022 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 15th, 2022 @ 3:48pm CDT
Not bad. I'm intrigued by the new comic, maybe IDW can go out on a not-so-low note.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Last Bot Standing
I wonder what he looks like with SS DoTM Megatron's cloak on him? Or is that too big?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 16th, 2022 @ 7:43pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. I'm intrigued by the new comic, maybe IDW can go out on a not-so-low note.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Last Bot Standing
I wonder what he looks like with SS DoTM Megatron's cloak on him? Or is that too big?
My Megatron is still in a moving tote, so I can't try that out for a while yet
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2022 @ 10:02am CDT
The Battle Across Time Collection: Deluxe Sideswipe & Maximal Skywarp Exclusive Two-Pack, which was previously exclusive to Amazon and Hasbro Pulse in the US, is getting rereleased at BBTS and is now up for preorder.
(Even though it is still in stock at Amazon.)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 22nd, 2022 @ 1:50pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on May 22nd, 2022 @ 2:28pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am still very glad I ended up getting Rodimus. He has really proven to be a great figure, and he has been a ton of fun in every way possible.
Top notch figure I agree. Lots of fun.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2022 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 22nd, 2022 @ 11:31pm CDT
Pure gold? Would the paint last?Sabrblade wrote:I still want a Primus redeco of it.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 22nd, 2022 @ 11:32pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Pure gold? Would the paint last?Sabrblade wrote:I still want a Primus redeco of it.
Nah forget gold, they can just do different shades of yellow like with sunstreaker. Everyone loved that amirite
Posted by Emerje on May 23rd, 2022 @ 12:20am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Pure gold? Would the paint last?Sabrblade wrote:I still want a Primus redeco of it.
Just have to mix quality gold plastic on the moving parts with gold chrome to keep it from chipping.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on May 23rd, 2022 @ 10:37am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on May 23rd, 2022 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 23rd, 2022 @ 7:57pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, doesn't have to be chrome. Metallic or glossy gold and vermilion would suffice.
I love the sounds of this color scheme
Posted by Emerje on May 23rd, 2022 @ 8:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, doesn't have to be chrome. Metallic or glossy gold and vermilion would suffice.
In other words...
I'd honestly prefer this over Takara Tomy's preference for all gold.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on May 23rd, 2022 @ 11:45pm CDT
Well, the Lucky Draw was all-gold only in vehicle mode. Its robot mode was gold and crimson:Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, doesn't have to be chrome. Metallic or glossy gold and vermilion would suffice.
In other words...
I'd honestly prefer this over Takara Tomy's preference for all gold.
Emerje
Inspired by his Marvel appearance.
Though, the Lucky Draw further inspired his JG1 design, which was likewise two colors:
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 2nd, 2022 @ 8:21pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on June 2nd, 2022 @ 10:02pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think this Rodimus toy might be working its way to being one of my absolute favorite toys in my collection, which is truly shocking honestly. And Rodimus himself is beginning to become a favorite character of mine, also helping that perception
Yeah, Roddy definitely has got the touch.
Top figure of the decade at least.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 5th, 2022 @ 8:31pm CDT
Any moon knight fans? Tried to have punch/counterpunch as steven/marc and the fossilizers to make up khonshu and armor. So far just kinda tried several things, this would be for Mr Knight i guess since I have the armor on punch
Posted by william-james88 on June 6th, 2022 @ 11:47pm CDT
Also, I just got my Slammer and I am not a big fan. Unlike the earthrise modulars, this guy feels wonky and lims to detach quite easily. Like Cog, which I guess makes sense since those are more similar. Though I wish Hasbro had improved.
Looking back on Kingdom, not sure in what order I would rate these toys but here are the ones I liked best:
Airrazor
Primal
Cyclonus
Inferno
Tigatron
Blaster
And my favourite of the fossilisers was Wingfiner
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 7th, 2022 @ 1:40am CDT
Does that make Jake their car mode?Razorbeast88 wrote:Wasn't sure what thread to put this one but fossilizers are kingdom soooooo
Any moon knight fans? Tried to have punch/counterpunch as steven/marc and the fossilizers to make up khonshu and armor. So far just kinda tried several things, this would be for Mr Knight i guess since I have the armor on punch
You mentioned your plan to build Khonshu in the Legacy thread, but you never put the pic up anywhere that I saw, at least.william-james88 wrote:I'm a moon knight fan. I forget, did I post my pic of Konshu using the fossilisers?
Also, I just got my Slammer and I am not a big fan. Unlike the earthrise modulars, this guy feels wonky and lims to detach quite easily. Like Cog, which I guess makes sense since those are more similar. Though I wish Hasbro had improved.
Looking back on Kingdom, not sure in what order I would rate these toys but here are the ones I liked best:
Airrazor
Primal
Cyclonus
Inferno
Tigatron
Blaster
And my favourite of the fossilisers was Wingfiner
I didn't get Cyclonus or Inferno (although I got Artfire and my girlfriend is getting Targetmaster Cyclonus), so I can't chime in on them, but I agree with your assessments of everyone else mentioned...except Slammer, Slammer is great. He's got the most Alex Milne/MtMtE headsculpt possible and a chainsaw sword/s, what's not to love?
Then again, my Slammer doesn't have loose limbs, so clearly mileage may vary.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on June 7th, 2022 @ 2:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I'm a moon knight fan. I forget, did I post my pic of Konshu using the fossilisers?
Also, I just got my Slammer and I am not a big fan. Unlike the earthrise modulars, this guy feels wonky and lims to detach quite easily. Like Cog, which I guess makes sense since those are more similar. Though I wish Hasbro had improved.
Looking back on Kingdom, not sure in what order I would rate these toys but here are the ones I liked best:
Airrazor
Primal
Cyclonus
Inferno
Tigatron
Blaster
And my favourite of the fossilisers was Wingfiner
Can't remember if you posted the pic or just mentioned that you were making khonshu with the fossilizers
My favorite fossilizer has to be Wingfinger as well
I got blaster in the nail a couple weeks ago and man he's just great. Really well done, up there with cyclonus for sure
Posted by william-james88 on June 7th, 2022 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2022 @ 9:19pm CDT
Posted by MaximalNui on June 30th, 2022 @ 5:47pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 5th, 2022 @ 7:44pm CDT
MaximalNui wrote:Finally ordered and got Tricranius and Transmutate, and so far I'm loving them both! Though I suspect my Tricranius came with two left arms instead of one right; it doesn't affect the transformation so it isn't a huge deal, but does anyone have the opposite problem so we can trade parts?
Can't say I do sadly. But I love my Tricranius too, he is wonderful!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 22nd, 2022 @ 11:53am CDT