Retailer Incentive Variant Cover for IDW Star Trek Vs. Transformers #3 by Megan Levens

Does Windblade's head design ever not look ridiculous and over doing it trying to be japanese when not?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Does Windblade's head design ever not look ridiculous and over doing it trying to be japanese when not?

Does Arcee's color layout ever not look like it's trying to be slooty?

Caelus wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Does Windblade's head design ever not look ridiculous and over doing it trying to be japanese when not?

Does Arcee's color layout ever not look like it's trying to be slooty?

ARCEE IS NOT A...Sloot?

RiddlerJ wrote:

Caelus wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Does Windblade's head design ever not look ridiculous and over doing it trying to be japanese when not?

Does Arcee's color layout ever not look like it's trying to be slooty?

ARCEE IS NOT A...Sloot?

Slang from game modding, in which fans (usually male) edit the game so that certain characters (usually female) look 'slutty'.

Slooty outfits are designed with the intention of inviting or satisfying sexual interest, but are not chosen by the person wearing them.

So when a fictional character's appearance has been designed to be especially sexy - especially when that's not part of the character - it's slooty.

No canon depiction of Arcee has really seemed like the sort of person to go into battle wearing a two piece, but her colors are laid out to look that way. Unlike most Transformers, her lower leg is the same secondary color as her upper leg, so that she doesn't look like she's wearing boots, and her abdomen is also rendered - entirely - in her secondary color. And if it wasn't perfectly clear her secondary color is supposed to represent skin, artists often give her a belly button.

I'd be okay with it if Arcee's character was supposed to come off that way (like Black Arachnia), but her personality doesn't fit with the look, so it feels like she's been forced into a certain appearance to pander to the reader's sexual interests.

Caelus wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Caelus wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Does Windblade's head design ever not look ridiculous and over doing it trying to be japanese when not?

Does Arcee's color layout ever not look like it's trying to be slooty?

ARCEE IS NOT A...Sloot?

Slang from game modding, in which fans (usually male) edit the game so that certain characters (usually female) look 'slutty'.

Slooty outfits are designed with the intention of inviting or satisfying sexual interest, but are not chosen by the person wearing them.

So when a fictional character's appearance has been designed to be especially sexy - especially when that's not part of the character - it's slooty.

No canon depiction of Arcee has really seemed like the sort of person to go into battle wearing a two piece, but her colors are laid out to look that way. Unlike most Transformers, her lower leg is the same secondary color as her upper leg, so that she doesn't look like she's wearing boots, and her abdomen is also rendered - entirely - in her secondary color. And if it wasn't perfectly clear her secondary color is supposed to represent skin, artists often give her a belly button.

I'd be okay with it if Arcee's character was supposed to come off that way (like Black Arachnia), but her personality doesn't fit with the look, so it feels like she's been forced into a certain appearance to pander to the reader's sexual interests.

This is the first I've heard of that theory...and wow, once you see it...

ZeroWolf wrote:This is the first I've heard of that theory...and wow, once you see it...

To be completely fair, many - perhaps most - Transformers use their secondary color for their thighs, and Windblade uses her secondary color (jet black) for her midriff as well, but with Arcee its the porcelain white color and the literal belly button that pushes it over the line from the campy superhero look to slooty.

Edit: Also to be fair, a person might be able to make the case that G1 Megatron is 'dressed' like a male stripper.

Yeah the belly button really is a step too far.

Caelus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:This is the first I've heard of that theory...and wow, once you see it...

To be completely fair, many - perhaps most - Transformers use their secondary color for their thighs, and Windblade uses her secondary color (jet black) for her midriff as well, but with Arcee its the porcelain white color and the literal belly button that pushes it over the line from the campy superhero look to slooty.

Edit: Also to be fair, a person might be able to make the case that G1 Megatron is 'dressed' like a male stripper.

Not to mention Windblade’s face is a different color than her secondary color

Ig89ninja wrote:

Caelus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:This is the first I've heard of that theory...and wow, once you see it...

To be completely fair, many - perhaps most - Transformers use their secondary color for their thighs, and Windblade uses her secondary color (jet black) for her midriff as well, but with Arcee its the porcelain white color and the literal belly button that pushes it over the line from the campy superhero look to slooty.

Edit: Also to be fair, a person might be able to make the case that G1 Megatron is 'dressed' like a male stripper.

Not to mention Windblade’s face is a different color than her secondary color

True, but even in her comic series she was said to be wearing make up, so you could debate what color her face really is. And sometimes Arcee's face and hands are a really faint pink, instead of the white used on her legs and midriff. In either case though, it's missing the forest for the trees; their overall looks evoke very different associations.

Did we see images of the RI covers for issue 2?

Courtesy, as is usually the case, of the iTunes pre-order page, we have a short preview of the next crossover miniseries experiment from IDW Publishing featuring our favourite transforming robots - in the form of Star Trek vs Transformers #1!

This first issue starts the Prime Directive story, as first explained and teased at San Diego Comic Con 2018, and the series as a whole will only last a handful of issues. So if you're in the market for something different happening in space, check it out below, and let us know your thoughts in the comments!

Star Trek vs. Transformers #1
John Barber and Others

The Transformers ‘80s cartoon series meets Star Trek: The Animated Series in a no-holds-barred Saturday Morning mash-up for the ages! At the edge of Klingon space, the Starship Enterprise finds there's more to the final frontier than meets the eye, when Kirk and his crew come face to face with the strangest life forms of all: Cybertronians! This unprecedented crossover brings together two of the greatest science fiction universes of all time—in the style of their classic animated series! A five-year mission meets a four-million-year war!

Category: Graphic Novels
Expected Release: Sep 30, 2018
Publisher: IDW Publishing
Seller: Idea and Design Works, LLC
Print Length: 29 Pages
Language: English

that is some GREAT looking art

I'm looking forward to this, it seems like it will be really good.

Is that Airachnid there, too?

Also:

Sabrblade wrote:Is that Airachnid there, too?

Yep, fantastic cameo!

"Oh my"

Star Trek vs Transformers artist Philip Murphy posted one of the most awesome Transformers tweets of the year. He posted his design of the USS Enterprise transformed into its robot form. The robot is called Fortress Tiberius and looks very much like you would expect with a name like that, sporting Fortress Maximus' head. Of course, this is just for the comic book series and not for any toyline, but it is an awesome design. The tweet says that we can see more of this in the upcoming Star trek vs Transformers #3.

It was an amazing opportunity to get the chance to design the ICONIC! Enterprise as a Transformer , if you want to see how Fortress Tiberius comes to be check out Star trek vs Transformers #3

This needs to happen. Seriously, this NEEDS to happen. Someone make this happen.

First-Aid wrote:This needs to happen. Seriously, this NEEDS to happen. Someone make this happen.

Seriously, why couldn't we have gotten this instead of the super crappy titan one from tr?

Issue #3 came out on the 5th. In its pages, this form was given the odd spelling of "Fortress Tiberious", when Kirk's Roman-based middle name is correctly spelled "Tiberius" like in this art.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:This needs to happen. Seriously, this NEEDS to happen. Someone make this happen.

Seriously, why couldn't we have gotten this instead of the super crappy titan one from tr?

With the way they designed it, it's really not practical to make a transforming toy of that that would be able to look like that. It's very cheaty and halfhearted, with only a general idea of what the altmode is supposed to look like (much like how Filmation and Sunbow would have most likely done it, heyo!), rather than trying to actually adhere to the physical dimensions of the Enterprise in a way that would make use of the ship's mass for a believable feasible conversion process.

Come on 3rd Parties you know what to do!

Should have named him Tiberius Maximus since, you know, he isn't a fortress in this form.

Emerje

Seriously? That looks ridiculous and not in a good way. Like it would be a cheapo bootleg toy you'd find in some bargain basement store with an unimaginative series name like 'star formers' or... Never mind. Yeah, silly stuff...guess it fits with that comic though but just looks so uninspired.

I'm a huge trek fan and tbh am rather disappointed with this - the warp nacelles should be integrated better in the body for sure, though admittedly most design routes will end up in loads of kibble.

At least they're ships that transform into tf characters and not into human characters like the Star Wars ones.

Emerje wrote:Should have named him Tiberius Maximus since, you know, he isn't a fortress in this form.

Emerje

That to me sounds way better. Personally I would have enjoyed seeing the Enterprise from the movies captained by Shatner but it's still cool no doubt.

It probably would have been "better designed" if they weren't trying to go for the Sunbow style which is, let's say "cheaty".

If someone can design the pieces, I can 3D print it.

Deadput wrote:It probably would have been "better designed" if they weren't trying to go for the Sunbow style which is, let's say "cheaty".

This would have to be a parts former, even a third party company couldn't make this perfectly transform as pieces shorten magically in modes and parts look like they just get pulled off some where and put other places. To make this work as a concept, it would have been better if the bottom part of the enterprise formed the arms with the legs torso coming from the top part.

Remember when James T. Kirk's middle name of 'Tiberius' was revealed in the Star Trek movies? He seemed embarrassed by it.

snavej wrote:Remember when James T. Kirk's middle name of 'Tiberius' was revealed in the Star Trek movies? He seemed embarrassed by it.

The middle name originated from the Animated Series.

Fight between Enterprise and transforming D7 or GTFO

UltraJetstorm wrote:Fight between Enterprise and transforming D7 or GTFO

Transforming Enterprise vs Spaceball 1/Megamaid!

Everyone here raving about how awesome this would be and how badly it needs to happen. But if they actually made this, everyone would jump on the hate train for it the same way they did with the Millennium falcon Chewy and Han Solo, so I don't wanna hear all this jibber jabber.

Question is for those who are both Trek and Transformers fans would be....which shelf....Transformers shelf or Star Trek shelf. Just saying....

jtanimator wrote:Everyone here raving about how awesome this would be and how badly it needs to happen. But if they actually made this, everyone would jump on the hate train for it the same way they did with the Millennium falcon Chewy and Han Solo, so I don't wanna hear all this jibber jabber.

I think the big difference here is that it wasn't made to try to look like James Kirk or Spock. They did kind of screw up the appearances of the Han Solo/Chewy MF transformer, but they did what they could with the source material. With SWTF, the alt modes were already set and they had to fit the mech mode to it. WIth normal TF, there is some room to tweak and shape the alt modes based on the needs of the bot mode- there is no "set alt mode".

First-Aid wrote:

jtanimator wrote:Everyone here raving about how awesome this would be and how badly it needs to happen. But if they actually made this, everyone would jump on the hate train for it the same way they did with the Millennium falcon Chewy and Han Solo, so I don't wanna hear all this jibber jabber.

I think the big difference here is that it wasn't made to try to look like James Kirk or Spock. They did kind of screw up the appearances of the Han Solo/Chewy MF transformer, but they did what they could with the source material. With SWTF, the alt modes were already set and they had to fit the mech mode to it. WIth normal TF, there is some room to tweak and shape the alt modes based on the needs of the bot mode- there is no "set alt mode".

True, I can see some of the difference there. I guess picky TF fans just get on my nerves some times

jtanimator wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

jtanimator wrote:Everyone here raving about how awesome this would be and how badly it needs to happen. But if they actually made this, everyone would jump on the hate train for it the same way they did with the Millennium falcon Chewy and Han Solo, so I don't wanna hear all this jibber jabber.

I think the big difference here is that it wasn't made to try to look like James Kirk or Spock. They did kind of screw up the appearances of the Han Solo/Chewy MF transformer, but they did what they could with the source material. With SWTF, the alt modes were already set and they had to fit the mech mode to it. WIth normal TF, there is some room to tweak and shape the alt modes based on the needs of the bot mode- there is no "set alt mode".

True, I can see some of the difference there. I guess picky TF fans just get on my nerves some times

See, I liked the Millennium Falcon Transformer Takara recently did, loved it.

But also, this right here is the concept so many people WANTED Star Wars to take with Transformers: Turn the ships into the characters. Fort Max now as the USS Enterprise just makes it so much cooler. Can't say I disagree either, and having read the comic, it is a cool thing for sure!

BaltousPrime789 wrote:Question is for those who are both Trek and Transformers fans would be....which shelf....Transformers shelf or Star Trek shelf. Just saying....

You get two - Enterprise mode for Trek shelf an bot mode for 'Formers shelf, duh.

An man they totally missed what to do wit them big engines. Can use them single, but slap together and transform them into DOUBLE BARREL WARP CANNONS!!!

And yah, needs a fortress mode. And a better bot mode. But I totally dig it. Live long and ROLL OUT!!!

EunuchRon wrote:And yah, needs a fortress mode.

You try making a large fortified building out of a Frisbee.

Sabrblade wrote:

EunuchRon wrote:And yah, needs a fortress mode.

You try making a large fortified building out of a Frisbee.

I snorted my coffee out of my nose reading this...

Sabrblade wrote:

EunuchRon wrote:And yah, needs a fortress mode.

You try making a large fortified building out of a Frisbee.

Challenge accepted, dude. See mah picture.

Warp engines in the middle, engineering hull split in halves at the connector to the saucer, warp nacelle struts as ramps on sides of the saucer and saucer is like a command station. Senser dish works like a big antenna. Yeah, that's the shuttle bay end of the secondary pointing up, so some parts forming going on. My mspaint skills ain't the bomb but you get the general idea. Never said it would be a great fortress but it's more like a moon base castle somethin.

EunuchRon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

EunuchRon wrote:And yah, needs a fortress mode.

You try making a large fortified building out of a Frisbee.

Challenge accepted, dude. See mah picture.

Warp engines in the middle, engineering hull split in halves at the connector to the saucer, warp nacelle struts as ramps on sides of the saucer and saucer is like a command station. Senser dish works like a big antenna. Yeah, that's the shuttle bay end of the secondary pointing up, so some parts forming going on. My mspaint skills ain't the bomb but you get the general idea. Never said it would be a great fortress but it's more like a moon base castle somethin.

Ummm...those middle two towers look...umm...





I can't go there. I'll get banned...

Shame there was no effort in the Trypticon / Klingon Battlecrusier design

Thanks to the good folks over at Flickering Myth, we now have the five page preview of the penultimate issue in IDW's Star Trek Vs. Transformers miniseries!

This issue sees the continued clash of titans, one born out of a klingon cruiser (looking like Trypticon) and the other being Fortress Tiberius (Fortress Maximus head on a transformed Starship Enterprise controlled by Captain Kirk!).

This issue is out today (16th January) and should be available where all good comics are sold.

We have embedded the images below for your convenience.

IDW wrote:(W) John Barber, Mike Johnson (A) Philip Murphy (CA) Priscilla Tramontano

With the Enterprise disabled by the Klingon-Decepticon alliance, things look dire for Spck, Optimus Prime, and the landing team to save the day. But with the Autobots' help, can Captain Kirk come up with a solution to save the day from a massive Cybertronian threat?

The Transformers '80s cartoon series meets Star Trek: The Animated Series in a no-holds-barred Saturday morning mash-up for the ages!

Are you reading this miniseries? What are your thoughts on it? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

i have enjoyed this fun little series...

but a few things i would've done.

Fort Max should either of had his toy model number as the ship registration(C-114), 1984 or 1987.

Trypticon should've had a KBC design

IDW could've used this as an opportunity to have Chekov's first ST TAS appearance (whether it be canon/fanon)

Thanks to IDW and artist Derek Charm we get to revisit the Star Trek vs. Transformers series at this year's San Diego Comic Con! Check out the press release below:

"Check out the complete crossover story that was 35 years in the making, as Kirk, Spock, and the entire crew of the U.S.S. Enterprise crosses paths with the explosive battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons! This convention variant trade paperback has an "animated cell art style" cover by artist Derek Charm.
Price $20.00"

Peace and long life, live long and prosper, and transform and roll out! Share your thoughts in the forum and let us know who you think wins out in one of the greatest crossovers in all sci-fi history.