Roundup of Latest Details on 2018 Transformers Movie Toyline Featuring Blackout, Brawl, Megatron and More
Saturday, October 28th, 2017 12:56AM CDT
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Yesterday, we were given listings for upcoming toys that match perfectly with the previous rumours of what could be included in the 2018 movie line, here are the listings:
Now this lines up very well with the previously rumoured toys, even those that had odd dates, confirming that this is the same line as the one that will include the Megatron and Brawl we previously saw. These listings are also our very best bet at determining the class/scale of the previously rumoured toys.
By looking at the clear distinctions in price points, we have 3 classes, Deluxe, Voyager and Leader.
Using that and all the info we previously saw, we end up with this as the contents of the 2018 Movie Toyline (known so far):
Deluxe
Bumblebee
Decepticon Stinger
Decepticon Crowbar
Ratchet
Jazz
Lockdown
Voyager
Starscream
Optimus
Megatron
Brawl
Ironhide
Starscream (different deco)
Leader
Blackout
Grimlock
From what we now know, the toys in this line should come with bases and backdrops.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 28th, 2017 @ 3:51am CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on October 28th, 2017 @ 9:54am CDT
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
Posted by Randomhero on October 28th, 2017 @ 1:18pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 28th, 2017 @ 2:41pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.
Posted by Randomhero on October 28th, 2017 @ 3:21pm CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.
And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.
I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.
Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 28th, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.
And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.
I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.
Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.
Ok but... we've literally seen images of the packaging style for the Hasbro side of this line. That's how we know, at least for the Hasbro releases, that they'll come with display bases and backgrounds. This isn't some baseless rumor.
Posted by william-james88 on October 28th, 2017 @ 7:47pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
I looked more into it and I think we are in the clear for it being the normal sizes we are used to. My comparison to previous listings was to the MB line and that line has a waaaay higher SRP. Which is odd since I bought Voyager Megs and Soundwave from the MB line for the same price as Voyager LG Lio Convoy. But the voyagers are priced the same as the voyagers in Takara's TLK line and the leaders are priced the same as the SRP for the standard TLK leaders in Japan (like Dragonstorm) so its basically the same quality as TLK that we can expect.
I changed my article accordingly.
Posted by Spider5800 on October 28th, 2017 @ 8:06pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
I looked more into it and I think we are in the clear for it being the normal sizes we are used to. My comparison to previous listings was to the MB line and that line has a waaaay higher SRP. Which is odd since I bought Voyager Megs and Soundwave from the MB line for the same price as Voyager LG Lio Convoy. But the voyagers are priced the same as the voyagers in Takara's TLK line and the leaders are priced the same as the SRP for the standard TLK leaders in Japan (like Dragonstorm) so its basically the same quality as TLK that we can expect.
I changed my article accordingly.
Sweet, thanks for the update! A leader Grimlock and Blackout of the same quality as leader Megs from the TLK line would be pretty awesome. Hopefully they don't have the same QA issues the TLK line had, though (eye's Dragonstorm's heads).
Posted by Deathsanras on October 29th, 2017 @ 12:33am CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.
And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.
I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.
Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.
Ok but... we've literally seen images of the packaging style for the Hasbro side of this line. That's how we know, at least for the Hasbro releases, that they'll come with display bases and backgrounds. This isn't some baseless rumor.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 29th, 2017 @ 12:40am CDT
Deathsanras wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Wonder how the Hasbro versions will be priced...
The lower price point is a little concerning, because it would imply they cheaped out somewhere to lower it. Smaller molds, less paint apps, less complex, etc. The Brawl and Megatron we've seen so far didn't seem very simplistic, so I'm going to assume the sizes shrunk AGAIN, but maybe they'll surprise me.
IF Hasbro release them. It’s not like they always follow what Takara does and vise versa
We already know Hasbro is releasing them, from other leaks and such.
And and we were suppose to get two more box sets from titans return and the final wave of animated was always gonna find release or the final line of dark of the moon would get put out.
I’ll wait and see. Things change and leaks aren’t always true.
Remember the leak about the beast wars box sets someone who claimed to work at amazon and “saw everything” like Optimus form apeface and Megatron from snapdragon only for POTP to reveal none of that was true because the headmaster gimmick has been replaced by combiners again. God that was an amazing amount of trolling.
Ok but... we've literally seen images of the packaging style for the Hasbro side of this line. That's how we know, at least for the Hasbro releases, that they'll come with display bases and backgrounds. This isn't some baseless rumor.
Okay, but those examples you're talking about are single waves or box sets. I'm talking about an entire line. Even if Hasbro for whatever reason doesn't end up releasing this line, we still know they're planning to for certain, which contradicts your original point, which was that you didn't think they were even planning to.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 29th, 2017 @ 2:51am CDT
Just be patient and wait for further details before drawing conclusions
Posted by william-james88 on October 29th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CDT
I will say this though, I do not expect any of these to be "mini MPs", as i have heard thrown around on the web by hopeful fans. These will be the same quality as the TLK toys. And that leader Blackout looked to be on the simpler side on the original images we got. It will be a fun scale, but I am not expecting anything mindblowing. It really will be like the leaders we got in AOE and TLK.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 30th, 2017 @ 12:38pm CDT
(had to post, wasn't following the thread)
Posted by Emerje on November 1st, 2017 @ 2:28am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 6th, 2017 @ 1:56pm CST
Deluxe Class Wave 1
01 Bumblebee (TF6)
02 Stinger (TF4)
03 Crowbar (TF3)
04 Ratchet (TF1)
Voyager Class Wave 1
05 Optimus Prime (TF2)
06 Starscream (TF1)
Leader Class Wave 1
07 Grimlock (TF4)
08 Blackout (TF1)
Voyager Class Wave 2
12 Brawl (TF1)
13 Megatron (TF2)
Posted by Quantum Surge on November 6th, 2017 @ 3:23pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 7th, 2017 @ 1:04pm CST
淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂, featuring the same two characters we first saw when the new Transformers movie-verse toyline was first teased: Brawl and Megatron, who appear to respectively occupy the numbers 12 and 13. While we have yet to receive proper confirmation that these are indeed all part of the Studio Series line, we do have crosspromotion for an Optimus Prime (05) and a Starscream (06) in the same line too, all of which will also include a cardboard backdrop (probably the box itself, much like the case for the Transformers Prime First Edition figures and their little cardboard stand) with the words 'Studio Series' printed on it. Check out the grainy images of the two Decepticons below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!
Posted by Quantum Surge on November 7th, 2017 @ 1:24pm CST
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 7th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CST
Posted by Whifflefire on November 7th, 2017 @ 1:48pm CST
Decepticon Stryker wrote:These look like statues... Though Megatron's feet look like they can fold into treads so I might be wrong...
Didn't the initial report of these figures show Brawl's alt-mode?
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2017 @ 3:29pm CST
Well the numbering is a little clear now.
Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock
But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2017 @ 3:56pm CST
Emerje wrote:That doesn't appear to be the previous Voyager Battle Blades Optimus Prime. The tiny blurry image makes the chest look weird, but the seemingly more compact back kibble is interesting and the tire is now behind his leg instead of on the side of his hip which isn't very accurate. It could be a good figure, but I can't see it being better than the BB version.
Well the numbering is a little clear now.
Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock
But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.
Emerje
And number 08 is Blackout.
Numbers 09, 10 and 11 are unaccounted for, but two of them will be taken up by the Wave 2 Deluxes Jazz and Lockdown. The final one is most likely the sole Wave 2 Leader, or the Wave 3 Voyager Ironhide that's released out of order.
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2017 @ 4:03pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:That doesn't appear to be the previous Voyager Battle Blades Optimus Prime. The tiny blurry image makes the chest look weird, but the seemingly more compact back kibble is interesting and the tire is now behind his leg instead of on the side of his hip which isn't very accurate. It could be a good figure, but I can't see it being better than the BB version.
Well the numbering is a little clear now.
Wave 1
Deluxe 01(?) Bumblebee (TF6Stryker2), 02(?) Stinger, 03(?) Ratchet, 04(?) Crowbar
Voyager 05 Optimus Prime, 06 Starscream
Leader 07(?) Grimlock
But then wave 2 gets confusing because in order to get to 12 and 13 they'd have to re-number Bee and Stinger in their re-release which is a very strange way of doing things. Bee has the same product ID of E0739 so it seems like it'll be an identical figure, as opposed to Starscream who's two figures start with E0 and E1 from what can be seen in the old leak to indicate the TF1 and TF2 versions. Maybe those two figures will be replaced in the final lineup with two other figures, they're the only ones being released twice in the series that we know of with no changes.
Emerje
Numbers 09, 10 and 11 are unaccounted for, but two of them will be taken up by the Wave 2 Deluxes Jazz and Lockdown. The final one is most likely sole the Wave 2 Leader, or a Wave 3 Voyager that's released out of order.
And 08? Blackout will likely be 14, the same line separating him and Grimlock in the leaked image is the one used to separate waves in the other images. I think the wave numbers were probably cut off from the top of the image. It would be weird if wave 3 Ironhide and wave 4 TF2 Starscream were 10 and 11.
Emerje
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2017 @ 4:35pm CST
Again, 08 is Blackout.
Releasing items out of sequence is nothing new. The T30 line had that with Crosscut 016, with Tankor 015 and Rattrap 017 released a wave prior.
Posted by CobraKai on November 7th, 2017 @ 4:43pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2017 @ 6:32pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Again, 08 is Blackout.
Releasing items out of sequence is nothing new. The T30 line had that with Crosscut 016, with Tankor 015 and Rattrap 017 released a wave prior.
I guess that might be the case then if Hasbro and Takara Tomy are sharing packaging. Though I'm not entirely convinced they'll be doing the wave 2 Deluxe after having just done Jazz and Lockdown in the MB line in February. That might mean renumbering the line in Japan after Grimlock.
Emerje
Posted by dragons on November 7th, 2017 @ 7:29pm CST
Quantum Surge wrote:Man, I just got Battle Blades Prime, and am I really going to have to buy this new mold? Of course I am!
Figure looks ok pass judgment on figure when we get clear pictures of figure
Posted by Prime Target on November 7th, 2017 @ 10:17pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2017 @ 10:22pm CST
Prime Target wrote:C'mon Hasbro where's Primes Face takers That megs looks good but they'll have to do a lot more for Starscream if they want to make him better than the DOTM deluxe and the ROTF Voyager and they'll also need to Skywarp and Thundercracker him.
The packaging says "Build the cast", so I don't think we'll be getting characters or redecos that weren't in the movie, including Thundercracker and Skywarp. In fact, the only leaked redeco is Starscream with the RotF Cyberglyphs
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 8th, 2017 @ 12:26am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 8th, 2017 @ 12:54am CST
Emerje wrote:I guess that might be the case then if Hasbro and Takara Tomy are sharing packaging. Though I'm not entirely convinced they'll be doing the wave 2 Deluxe after having just done Jazz and Lockdown in the MB line in February. That might mean renumbering the line in Japan after Grimlock.
Emerje
I think they will share packaging since the prices are identical to the prices we saw for the TLK toys which shared pakaging, much cheaper than their own MB line. Its also why I dont think Takara cares. They revealed a new MB TLK Megatron a little while after releasing the Leader Megatron from their TLK line. Same with Bumblebee and Hound. So I dont think that will detract them from doing it again with other toys like Jazz and Lockdown.
Posted by william-james88 on November 11th, 2017 @ 11:55pm CST
We also see leader Blackout behind him in both his modes but we only see his lower leg and rotors when it comes to his robot mode. Still, this is our very first look at him since the initial leaked images and the best proof possible that he is indeed coming. These appearing at a show means we are very close to seeing better images of these.
For those wondering, the other deluxes in this line will be Bumblebee, Decepticon Crowbar, Ratchet, Jazz and Lockdown while the only other known leader class figure will be Grimlock. Judging from the reported prices of the Takara releases (which are probably the same figures repackaged for the Japanese market), these should be at the same price points as the Transformers the Last Knight toys. Which means we should expect a similar level of detail, complexity and paint.
Here is the photo, enjoy!
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 12th, 2017 @ 12:10am CST
Posted by LevelRage on November 12th, 2017 @ 12:12am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 12th, 2017 @ 2:31am CST
He does look kinda 'blocky' in general shape at moment but that could just be the angle or pose. Looking forward to better photos.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on November 12th, 2017 @ 5:53am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:It's weird how a blurry little picture of a brand new Stinger mold makes me even more excited for the whole line. Cos if even a minor character like that is getting some proper love this time then I've high hopes for much of the more popular characters too.
He does look kinda 'blocky' in general shape at moment but that could just be the angle or pose. Looking forward to better photos.
Now that you mention it, the picture does make me think of a one-step. Thank God that isn't the case though!
Posted by Spider5800 on November 12th, 2017 @ 10:38am CST
Maybe its unpainted?
Posted by Emerje on November 12th, 2017 @ 10:51am CST
Spider5800 wrote:Huh, that Blackout in the background looks really light colored. Was hoping they'd keep the darker color like the movie and the Premium voyager, but this looks more like the original voyager.
Maybe its unpainted?
I thing the one in the back is a photo, the figure is on the right (with green markings). At least it isn't that dull blue like the original.
Stinger looks like a mass of kibble with elbows.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on November 12th, 2017 @ 10:52am CST
Posted by Ig89ninja on November 12th, 2017 @ 1:41pm CST
Emerje wrote:Spider5800 wrote:Huh, that Blackout in the background looks really light colored. Was hoping they'd keep the darker color like the movie and the Premium voyager, but this looks more like the original voyager.
Maybe its unpainted?
I thing the one in the back is a photo, the figure is on the right (with green markings). At least it isn't that dull blue like the original.
Emerje
Huh, I actually like the "dull" blue
Posted by Quantum Surge on November 12th, 2017 @ 2:47pm CST
Posted by Octobotimus on November 12th, 2017 @ 8:42pm CST
the tiny bit you get to see of blackout's copter mode got my even more hyped for him
Posted by Prime Target on November 12th, 2017 @ 10:40pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 13th, 2017 @ 10:47am CST
But I am so thrilled for this new line. I was just playing with voyager Premium Blackout last week and he is so fun. It really says something about the impact some of the cons from the first movie had, seeing as how everyone wants a leader Blackout and Barricade is the first con getting a movie masterpiece figure that is not just a slightly changed leader class figure.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 13th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CST
Posted by fruityrobo on November 13th, 2017 @ 7:55pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 13th, 2017 @ 8:13pm CST
fruityrobo wrote:I was looking at the Facebook post and a related image showed up. It was an Optimus Prime which was also at the Taiwan TFCC and it was a new mold but I was wondering why people didn't show it. I mean I understand that the figure has similar elements from the ROTF Leader Class but I have it and that looks totally different.
What image is that? I don't have access to the group, so can't see it myself.
Posted by william-james88 on November 13th, 2017 @ 10:50pm CST
Va'al wrote:fruityrobo wrote:I was looking at the Facebook post and a related image showed up. It was an Optimus Prime which was also at the Taiwan TFCC and it was a new mold but I was wondering why people didn't show it. I mean I understand that the figure has similar elements from the ROTF Leader Class but I have it and that looks totally different.
What image is that? I don't have access to the group, so can't see it myself.
I joined the group and yet I do not see such an image anywhere.
Fruityrobo, get back to us when you have a minute, showing us what image you are referrng to. Thanks!
Posted by Munkky on November 14th, 2017 @ 11:04am CST
Leader Blackout and Voyager Brawl are two figures I really want to own, and I was thinking my movie Decepticon shelf would just be those two with TLK Nitro Zeus and Megatron (which is better, the Leader or the Voyager?), the DOTM Deluxe Soundwave and Barricade I already own (unless TLK Deluxe Barricade is better, what's the consensus on that?) and a Starscream.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 14th, 2017 @ 11:07am CST
Munkky wrote:Megatron (which is better, the Leader or the Voyager?)
Voyager, in my opinion.