Rumours of Upcoming Figures include Earthrise Quintesson, Quintessa, Skylynx and More

I hope the Quintessa, Quintesson, and Runamok rumors are true. Also hoping to get Omega Supreme and Scorponok on an Ollie's sale like Fort Max and Trypticon, otherwise might never see them

Also, Sky Lynx as commander is awesome.

I'm hoping the Quints are a box set of figures (maybe with guards?). Something we can troop build with simple clicking rotating head and mix and match accessories that plug into 5mm pegs.

As for Quintessa, unless it's an Allicon, I'm at a loss. If they're going with bases, I hope they can all fit together with a unified look of a space city or factory. With Metroplex, Max, and Scorp and Trypticon all having dark gray, leaning on that (like for the one playset we've seen revealed) would make for a set with universal appeal and play value. I hope lots of small playsets and retools are on the way. That's such a fun figure and play pattern. They could keep repainting them (and the bridge guy) to match each titan and I'd keep buying them.

We've been assuming a sort of straight redo of G1 with the "War for Cybertron Trilogy," but maybe it's really in aesthetics only? Hasbro could be taking a cue from Transformers Prime and The Last Knight, making Earth Unicron in disguise. At the end of Earthrise, Unicron (the Earth) will rise and attack Cybertron. The Quintessons and Quintessa might be trying to oppose Unicron, or be his heralds, or play another role entirely this time around.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:This list seems a bit odd to me, especially because it lists two characters that don't really fit the Earth theme...

Nor does Scorponok, yet he's officially confirmed.

How does he not fit the theme? He's a classic G1 toy that has a base mode.

His altmodes aren't Earthen like those of the others seen so far.

I am surprised we still think there's a logic to this, there isn't. Many alt modes in Siege were not cybertronian anyways.

I think we also seem to keep forgetting that Hasbro keeps insisting at conventions and through the promotional texts that Earthrise is NOT actually set on Earth, it's supposed to be set in space. The name and alt modes keeps confusing people.

Personally, I could absolutely see this being real, given:
~We know half of the figures on it are real due to official reveals and previous leaks
~Sky Lynx lines up with the cryptic Commander "leak" we had previously seen
~The line is set in space, so seeing Quintessons here would be more likely than in a line actually set on Earth proper
~We know Hasbro likes mixing obscure characters in with the heavy hitters, and the only figure in the wave of Earthrise we've already seen who I'd consider obscure is Ironworks, so most of the surprises should still be coming
~We know Hasbro has the Quintesson adjacent character of Gnaw/the Sharkticons on their mind from the fan vote, this could be why
~We also have the third Mercenary faction coming, they could easily say the Quintessons hired them and that's what faction these two listings belong to (It wouldn't be the first time a Quintesson character seemingly hired Lockdown, at least)

I really just want to know what those figures look like, as I personally still want all my Transformers figures to actually transform, which the Quintessons aren't known to do, and the name Quintessa has been used to refer to a planet, a Titan, and a weird almost humanoid Quintesson lady before. There would have to be something more to at least the Quintesson listing, wouldn't a Voyager Class Quintesson be too big for Hasbro's cartoon scale unless it did or had something to make it fit that price point?

Quintessa, a character from a total flop of a movie being ported to G1? I somehow highly doubt that.

Hmmmm, very interesting news. Although out of it all I'm more exciting for that Scorponok.

Skritz wrote:Quintessa, a character from a total flop of a movie being ported to G1? I somehow highly doubt that.

I briefly had blocked TLK out of my mind, so I thought you were referring to the 80s movie Either way, it might be decent? Assuming it happens at all

That said, I have to say: I do have some decently high hopes for Mercenaries. Which I'm sure will be horribly dashed.

Not interested in the MPMs, since I just stick with Studio Series, but I’m sure folks will like ‘em.

Consider me interested in the Quintesson and Sky Lynx, but I was hoping for Tidal Wave for the Commander class slot.

Maybe some of these quints are that of those gater like cons or another sharkticon mold and those 5 face guys and crew
Other than the TLK movie quintessa has no g1 reference other than their planet being called that

I hope the Quintesson rumor is true. We could finally get an actual figure based around those guys.

Maybe Quintessa is a new micromaster base complete with bot mode for the mercenary faction. Would be nice if they used the names but give us something new with them.

I still go with the theory that the third part will be more future based hence why we had more than meets the eye nods in Siege and season 1 - 2 bot cars for Earthrise

Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure. I think even an old supreme class figure would still be too small but would be the minimum of what he should be. Titan would be the best to fully portray his size, dual bot nature and the fact that he's a quadruped with wings, a long neck and tail. That would have to happen after Scorponok though but I'm fine with that. It would also make sense that all the mainline titan class figures have titan class rivals.

Jetfire is roughly a bit over half the height of Predaking. Now cut that in half to make the two parts of Skylynx and put it on all fours with the articulated wings, neck and tail. He's really not going to be all that much larger than the CW voyager at that point. Much, much heavier but not really all that much larger. Not nearly as much as people are imagining anyway. Sure he's super simple to transform, especially the lynx so it's not like a huge amount of engineering would go into it or that he'd have a huge parts count in that half either but it'd still be way too small all things considered. Unless they make a CW/PotP size Predaking. Then he'd be the perfect size...yet still too small at the same time.

Yeah I'll still get it but I'm not looking forward to a commander sized Skylynx if the rumors are true.

Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.

Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?

Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

ZeroWolf wrote:

NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege

Don't be, we never got Sideswipe in Combiner Wars

I bet a million dollars we see Sunstreaker before the Earthrise Mercenaries Micromaster base Quintessa.

I'm so excited about this bridge this guy is going to sell me, it's in Brooklyn, it's gotta be worth a fortune.

Hey its just a bit of fun why so serious. I mean I know we're not getting a quint micromaster base, my thing was that Quintessa was a place name, the same as the other bases. There's more likelyhood that it's a renamed alicon, if it's true at all.

On some level I'd rather no quints at all, as I thought they just weren't good (their allies not included in this)

Wasn't Quintessa the name of the mystical energy source in the recent Voltron Series?

Rodimus Knight wrote:Wasn't Quintessa the name of the mystical energy source in the recent Voltron Series?

That would be "Quintessence". The word itself has many definitions depending on what area it's used in, but down to the core it refers to the fifth element in Classic Alchemy, next to Fire, Earth, Water and Air. Sometimes referred to as Aether, it's viewed as the building block of the other four, and as perfect.

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.

Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?

Pretty sure he means too small to pair with Titan Predaking. I think there's still some potential to get a rather large Sky Lynx though. Both halves are super simple figures and don't need to be made any more complex than the original since there's no real benefit to adding articulation. You really wouldn't want to add articulation to the "Sky" portion's legs since the joints probably wouldn't hold the body up easily so solid legs like the original is fine. The wings don't really benefit from bending at the body, but it probably would be easier to mold the body and wings separately. The neck and tail don't need to have every joint articulated, though maybe adding a way for the head to turn would be nice. The "Lynx" portion can be identical to the original, just with free moving leg joints. Jetfire used armor and weapons to pad his price point out, but Sky Lynx has no use for either so all that plastic can go back into the figure, just give him some fire breath effect parts.

The Quints are an odd thing to include this early, I really thought they'd be held over for 2021. I'm guessing Quintesson is the judge and Quintessa is the guard?

If Runamuck is already on this list does that mean they're actually doing a poll winner early and not holding them over for late in the line for a change?

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

NeonPrime wrote:Wow, Skylynx and the Quintessons are definitely interesting. Personally I was hoping to see more of the original 1984 line up, especially Sunstreaker,Jazz and Huffer. Siege has been a great way for me to finally add those characters to my collection.

There's still time for some of them. Sunstreaker especially

I'd be surprised if we didn't see a new Sunstreaker soon given the new Sideswipe from Siege

Don't be, we never got Sideswipe in Combiner Wars

True,but Combiner Wars seemed like a dump and run as far as characters go On the other hand Hasbro seems to be putting alot more effort into Siege as far as detail and quality goes. I'd bet that bridge in Brooklyn we see Trailbreaker (via Hoist) as a Select/exclusive so it would just be nice to keep the '84 momentum going. BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.

Wasnt he the same size as computron in the cartoon?

Pretty sure he means too small to pair with Titan Predaking. I think there's still some potential to get a rather large Sky Lynx though. Both halves are super simple figures and don't need to be made any more complex than the original since there's no real benefit to adding articulation. You really wouldn't want to add articulation to the "Sky" portion's legs since the joints probably wouldn't hold the body up easily so solid legs like the original is fine. The wings don't really benefit from bending at the body, but it probably would be easier to mold the body and wings separately. The neck and tail don't need to have every joint articulated, though maybe adding a way for the head to turn would be nice. The "Lynx" portion can be identical to the original, just with free moving leg joints. Jetfire used armor and weapons to pad his price point out, but Sky Lynx has no use for either so all that plastic can go back into the figure, just give him some fire breath effect parts.

The Quints are an odd thing to include this early, I really thought they'd be held over for 2021. I'm guessing Quintesson is the judge and Quintessa is the guard?

If Runamuck is already on this list does that mean they're actually doing a poll winner early and not holding them over for late in the line for a change?

Emerje

It means the rumormonger thought using a confirmed but undated figure would lend credence to the rest of the list. Scorponok is similarly an "early" listing, as Titans have been late in their respective toylines.

The Quintessons would be big news to me personally as I cannot remember Hasbro ever releasing an official offering of them outside of Gnaw. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be). Either way this is perfect as we're getting Unicron also.

NeonPrime wrote:BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'

I'm not sure I follow. For Siege at least Bluestreak and Smokescreen are the only ones I can think of who were exclusives and had a more obscure character in Barricade as the regular release. Skywarp is the only other regular character I can think of that was only an exclusive, but he wasn't at the expense of a more obscure character. He was just odd man out this time between he and Thundercracker.

Pretty much all of Siege and Selects has had the more obscure characters as the exclusives while the more known ones were regular releases.

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

Regimus Prime wrote:The Quintessons would be big news to me personally as I cannot remember Hasbro ever releasing an official offering of them outside of Gnaw. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be). Either way this is perfect as we're getting Unicron also.

Transformers: Energon from 2004-2005 had a toy of Alpha Quintesson, complete with three rotating faces:

Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

Action Masters, Robot Replicas, and other single-moded toys still counted as Transformers toys, included the aforementioned Alpha Quintesson toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

Action Masters, Robot Replicas, and other single-moded toys still counted as Transformers toys, included the aforementioned Alpha Quintesson toy.

I think you're missing the point: all main line toys had some form of transformation, even the ones that don't in-fiction. Toys of the latter just get an alt-mode shoe-horned in, the best example of which is the Cyberverse Scarplet figure.

How would one give a Quintesson a "transformation"? Or rather, how would Hasbro be able to justifiably advertise the 5-faced gimmick as a "transformation"?

In this is the same Quintessa as the one from The Last Knight but in G1 form then this leaves hope open for a G1 Nitro Zeus


Please I need more of the best Decepticon in the franchise in my life, make him Shockwave's top dog and his foil.

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.

Wasn't he the same size as Computron in the cartoon?

Pretty much but you have to factor in the differences between a bipedal robot mode versus a quadrupedal and winged robot mode that has to split into two components.

I myself and another who commented already pointed out that each component to Skylynx wouldn't need to be too terribly articulated or contain a high parts counts. However since the figure has to be much longer in robot mode than Jetfire, he's not going to really end up being all that tall. Pretty much take your Jetfire and put him on his hands and knees. That's about the size Skylynx would be if he were to be a single commander figure. If you don't have Jetfire then use Cybertron Megatron or Metroplex. Maybe about the size of Beast Fire Predaking/Guren Dragotron in dragon mode would be more accurate.

If you want Skylynx to scale with your Siege figure and even the CW/PotP combiners then it might be good enough if not still too small. But if you want it to scale to PotP Predaking then it's not even close. Predaking is too big and shouldn't have been a titan to begin with but now that he is, he'll need a titan Skylynx to go up against and a single commander one just won't be large enough. That's why I said double commander.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

NeonPrime wrote:BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'

I'm not sure I follow. For Siege at least Bluestreak and Smokescreen are the only ones I can think of who were exclusives and had a more obscure character in Barricade as the regular release. Skywarp is the only other regular character I can think of that was only an exclusive, but he wasn't at the expense of a more obscure character. He was just odd man out this time between he and Thundercracker.

And even then, Skywarp wasnt a selects toy. The only seeker that got the selects treatment was redwing who very few people know.

Basically, I dont think trailbreaker will be hard to get if he is made.

Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

william-james88 wrote:Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

We recently posted news about upcoming figures, one of them being a voyager Quintesson. A fan who claims to already have this figure chimed in to give a better description of the toy, due to all the wild speculation that was going on in the fanbase. Below is what they wrote in terms of description. The source has previously asked not to be named. Below is what they wrote in terms of description.

I don't know if the design and aesthetic is fit to the Earthrise line.
I don't know , look more like Cyberverse to me.
Articulation only have 4 tentacle move as balljoint at base.
the gimmick is push on top and the head will rotate.
I like it but to you all I don't know , maybe you expect more. But to have such quintesson figure is cool to be honest
it has that pushing down then the head rotate between each face gimmick.
the color is black and each face has that kind of desaturated color , very egyptian like.

Now it could be that this is another Quintesson figure for a different line, we really don't know. All we know is we have further info on an upcoming Quintesson figure, which sounds to be rather simplistic in design.

I'm intrigued by the Quintesson listings.

I'm hoping they end up being a 5 face changing Quintesson with a stand and some effects parts, and the Quintessa is a toy of TLK Quintessa. That would be an awesome addition to generations and a nice surprise.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?

Between Quintessons, a planet map, Hasbro's comments at one of the toy shows last month that Earthrise takes place in space and this being the "story" after Siege which was allegedly when they left Cybertron (I use "story" very very loosely here since there's 0 fiction for this, but that was the TCG angle at least) I'm getting big time "Exiles" vibes. That was a mess of a novel and was Aligned continuity, but it did give us cool stuff like Thundertron's version of Star Seekers.

Detritus is even in the TCG, which isn't necessarily a belwether for a toy but that's even more fuel to that fire. Repaint Storm Cloud and Whisper as Star Saber parts, yeah, this looks like another attempt at Exiles.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?

I dunno, I expected to be surprised and have the figure have something that makes me actually want it? I expect my Transformers figures to actually, y'know, transform, for starters. I was hoping them doing a Voyager class Quintesson in Generations meant they were going to make all the regular Quintesson stuff be it's robot mode, and then have it turn into...something, at least, like how they made new modes for each of the Weaponizers and Ironworks. A ship, a Sharkticon, a weird Alpha-Q-like monster thing, something. Having a non-transforming egg with faces in the main line just feels to me like a waste of a spot that could have gone to an actual Transformer.

As it stands though, I just have to either hope this is a gimmicky Cyberverse figure that got mislabeled as being in Earthrise, or take this as more proof that Earthrise just won't be as good to me as Siege is/was.

It's obviously going to be a cyberverse toy. Just like the scraplet gimmick where teeth spin inside.

Well, I wont pit Alpha Q away until we get pictures, but even if this IS a Cyberverse figure and not Earthrise, if its done well like Gnaw It could still work.

Skritz wrote:If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into?

I mean, they aren't Transformers to begin with so I'd be perfectly fine with a Voyager box of Quints that are just action figures with no transforming. I'd much rather have that than trying to shoehorn a transformation into a character that was never intended to transform.

Emerje

Hm... I'm not sold on a non-transforming figure... If that's how the Quintessons are being handled, I'll gladly pass

If the Quints do turn out to be Cyberverse toys and not Earthrise, then that's an interesting move since the Cyberverse Sharkticons are, based on all that has been shown of them, not affiliated with the Quintessons whatsoever, instead being a righteously radical bunch of space surfer dudes.

On a different note, it looks like Titan class Scorponok will have the Marvel/Rebirth-styled head instead of the toy/Headmasters-styled head.

https://www.facebook.com/VectorSigma.LatAm/posts/1457503311055858

Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...

Probably just "Mega Zarak" (or some spelling variation thereof).

I can't wait to see the finished Titan. Though, I hope the antenna are going to be orange in the end... That pale gold doesn't work in my opinion

Funny thing, I finally got around to unboxing all of my Impossible Toys Allicons last week. So if this voyager is just a big Judge type, that'll scale nicely to represent the larger one from Space Pirates and display well with my custom General Ghyrik, ordering his commandos to ambush Soundwave's forces.

And if it sells SO well that we get official versions of the Executioner, Bailiff, Prosecutor/Leader, and Scientist that I.T. did, the variants of the latter two from Money is Everything and Dweller in the Depths, the Security Quints killed by the Transorganics and the 3-faced ancient that created them in said latter ep, and the humanoid Quintessons in Forever is a Long Time Coming, and then wash it all down with official Allicons, plentiful enough for army building...

...then I guess I'll FINALLY have to admit that 3rd party products are totally unnecessary, and all I had to do was be patient for the real deal to come through.

But that's not gonna' happen.

Because as several previous comments have observed, the Quintessons are just plain non-toyetic. No matter how important they are to the mythos, or genuinely interesting in design they are, they can't really fit within the TF toyline, because they don't transform.

Instead, they're the perfect example of symbiosis between the official Transformer and 3rd party markets. If it weren't for being able to display all those Impossible Toys Quints (IDR which companies made the other, smaller Judges and Allicons), I never would've bought as many TR Sharkticons as I did, and that has to be true for a LOT of other fans. The reception of that toy probably led in turn led to it's Cyberverse enlargening, and now this Voyager and Deluxe, if true. And that should hopefully lead to 3P versions of the unproduced Quint types listed above, continuing the circle of life toward official Allicons!

Seriously, why didn't we get Allicons during Beast Hunters? Amid all those deluxe variations of generic dragons, they could've done more homages than just a few familiar names.

Point is, while it'll be nice to have a full-grown Quintessa, and it's great that Has/Tak really are trying hard to please their old lifelong fans, this is just one of those niche areas where neither official company can get the proper toys done. 3rd parties stuff exists for a reason, for the good of the greater toy ecosystem, making triumphs and errors that help our current crop of official TFs be as awesome as they are.

And yes, I'll buy these two figures, however they turn out!