Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed

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Adam Pawlus, from Entertainment Earth has posted on twitter that Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz has a running change. Some Jazz figures coming out will no longer have MAGA written in Cybertronian letters. Instead, as can be seen in the photo below, also linked on Twitter, that part has simply been blackend to remove the writing. It will be hard for anyone to see this in the package and we by no means encourage tampering in the store to find out. This will probably be seen on the Jazz figures coming out in Wave 3 of Power of the Primes.

Credit(s): Adam Pawlus

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Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962447)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:27am CDT

An easy fix it seems though I wonder if they ever dealt with it internally. Though let's keep the toys away from politics. The designer can do that on their own time.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962449)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:30am CDT

william-james88 wrote:This will probably be seen on the Jazz figures coming out in Wave 3 of Power of the Primes.

Worth repeating. If you see a Jazz among the Terrorcons, it's likely the running change.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962450)
Posted by Ballistic90 on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:43am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:An easy fix it seems though I wonder if they ever dealt with it internally. Though let's keep the toys away from politics. The designer can do that on their own time.

Yes, the designer responsible was freelance and his contract was terminated.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962453)
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:08pm CDT

Really glad I got my Jazz from wave 1 with the MAGA tampo. Sad that its such a big deal it even needed to be changed. Now wheres my Optimus Primal?

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962454)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT

"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962456)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:23pm CDT

Black Hat wrote:"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Trust me, someone will complain. It's inevitable even with the most obscure, thanks to the internet.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962461)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:38pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Black Hat wrote:"Hasbro feels the need to censor my decals because of their own biases and need to pander to a select group of fans. Sad!" -Jazz.

All sh!tposting aside, I wonder if this would have happened if the decal read BLM or Antifa?

Trust me, someone will complain. It's inevitable even with the most obscure, thanks to the internet.

The question wouldn't be if people would complain but would Hasbro change it because of complaints. I doubt they would though, as we've been seeing all over a very obvious double standard.

Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962462)
Posted by Houstonian Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:48pm CDT

i think they shouldve fixed the quality of the product itself, rather than worry about this. priorities people. the plastic used for jazz is so brittle, it breaks very easily. thats the problem that shouldve been fixed. i have the 1st rendition, doesnt bother me one bit. nor have i heard of someone not buying the figure because of the MAGA thing. hasbro is trying to appease an overly sensitive crowd, that in my eyes, doesnt even exists within the collecting community. lets not forget it was the liberal media that slandered this slogan, turned it in to something that it wasnt.
making america great again, stood for less govt control, bringing jobs back, and a fair healthcare system, etc. whats wrong with that? nothing.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962463)
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:49pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Exactly

Target is having a pretty good toy sale, and seems to be ramping up their stock to support it. There are plenty of studio series, and for some unknown reason, NEW stock of old RID figures coming in. Also plenty of new stock of PotP wave 1...So frustrating that a Target store about 3 hours south of me gets wave 3, and the stores in my area are getting more wave 1... (I know it's wave 1 because New Starscreams and Grimlocks)

On the flip side, this would have been a dream for collectors of Leader Class, They had all 3 (OP, RP, and RU) as well as SS Grimlock and Blackout, and even a couple left over Leader Megatron's from TLK all in stock at the same time, at the same store! (6 different leaders from 3 different lines I haven't seen that in recent memory)...plenty of the toys I don't want :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962466)
Posted by william-james88 on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:06pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:
Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Same!

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962467)
Posted by RiddlerJ on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT

Maybe they think completists will buy both versions. :lol:

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962468)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:14pm CDT

Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Who is Phoenix?

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962469)
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:Who is Phoenix?

Wolverine Phoenix Is the name of Cloudburst in the Japanese Masterforce series.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962471)
Posted by Cobotron on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:33pm CDT

Hey all!
Just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation about the Jazz thing to as it pertains to the toy. All are welcome to their political perspectives, but this is really not the place to discuss it.

And on that note:
I doubt Hasbro has any desire to pander to either side. They could probably care less how liberal or conservative our money is. They'd just like to have it. All of it.
They make fun toys for children regardless of who their parents vote for.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962474)
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:41pm CDT

Well it appears that the last 4 PotP toys :TAKARATOMY:

releases are available for preorder on BBTS, estimated release -end of November:

PP-37 Megatornus
PP-38 Outback
PP-39 Cindesaur
PP-40 Rodimus Unicronus

So...who wants to wager if all of PotP will be fully saturated in :TAKARATOMY:

before

by the end of November?

Also, Will *exclusives* such as Nemesis Prime, Wreck-Gar, Counter Punch & repugnus get releases by :TAKARATOMY:

, or will these perhaps be excusives for thenm as well, or not released at all?

What about the 3 remaining Prime masters and perhaps any additional product we have not seen yet?

Just some of the burning questions I have as I await PotP Wave 2 Prime Masters, to show up ever, and Wave 2 deluxes to show up again other than the one time I saw them.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962475)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:42pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

Exactly Target is having a pretty good toy sale, and seems to be ramping up their stock to support it. There are plenty of studio series, and for some unknown reason, NEW stock of old RID figures coming in. Also plenty of new stock of PotP wave 1...So frustrating that a Target store about 3 hours south of me gets wave 3, and the stores in my area are getting more wave 1... (I know it's wave 1 because New Starscreams and Grimlocks)

On the flip side, this would have been a dream for collectors of Leader Class, They had all 3 (OP, RP, and RU) as well as SS Grimlock and Blackout, and even a couple left over Leader Megatron's from TLK all in stock at the same time, at the same store! (6 different leaders from 3 different lines I haven't seen that in recent memory)...plenty of the toys I don't want

Man, you've seen RU show up at the stores... Dang you... I only saw him once at a comic convention. I would really like to be able to get him at a reasonable price.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962481)
Posted by william-james88 on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:21pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Who is Phoenix?

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962482)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:27pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Moonshot wrote:So far Ive only bought Jazz, Phoenix, WIndchager and Metalhawk. What Im really waiting for and excited about is wave 3. All the Pretenders and Primal in wave 3 have me pumped, nothing left in wave 2 I want. I was in High School during Beast Wars so collecting Transformers was the last thing on my mind. New molds of Beast Wars characters are always welcomed.

Who is Phoenix?

Objection

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962483)
Posted by Patrickab7 on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:29pm CDT

Only ones left on my definite buy list are the new Wreck-Gar and Novastar. I'm pretty susceptible to impulse buying, though...bwahahaha...

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962484)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:31pm CDT

Cobotron wrote:Hey all!
Just a friendly reminder to keep the conversation about the Jazz thing to as it pertains to the toy. All are welcome to their political perspectives, but this is really not the place to discuss it.

And on that note:
I doubt Hasbro has any desire to pander to either side. They could probably care less how liberal or conservative our money is. They'd just like to have it. All of it.
They make fun toys for children regardless of who their parents vote for.

This. So much this.

As for wave saturation, living in the UK, we get one or two max. So shopping online is normally my default anyway. Welcome to how tf fans in the UK feel.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962489)
Posted by Va'al on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:45pm CDT

Also via Singaporean fan of the Seibertron.com community Daniel Oon, and linking to another video review from the Transformers Power of the Primes by YouTube toy reviewer Kevin Liu, we have our first full look in a clip at the Leader class fan voted figure of Evolution Optimal Optimus, with Optimus Primal smaller robot!

The video, embedded below, shows off the beast and robot mode for the larger figure, plus the robot and 'vehicle' mode for the smaller munkky character, and some of the combination options between the two, including the Matrix accessory that comes with the set. Check it out below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - is this a figure that scratches that Beast Wars itch?

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962496)
Posted by galvatron00 on May 31st, 2018 @ 3:31pm CDT

I'm not sure why, but after watching that video all of the hollow areas on Optimal Optimus really bother me. I know why they are there, monies. And it's not like other figures don't have it. But it really bothers me on him..

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962497)
Posted by Node on May 31st, 2018 @ 3:37pm CDT

Rodimus Knight wrote:Now that being said, I don't care about Jazz, I want my freaking 2nd wavers to show up!

This why we can't have wave 2 people!

They gotta start over. More wave 1 cases are on their way!

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962500)
Posted by Munkky on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:02pm CDT

I'm not completely sold on the Optimal gorilla form, but the Optimus Primal figure looks fantastic, I can't wait until I get my hands on one! On a side note, I love that piano version of Jablonsky's Autobot theme in the video.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962501)
Posted by Emerje on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:04pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:Also, Will *exclusives* such as Nemesis Prime, Wreck-Gar, Counter Punch & repugnus get releases by , or will these perhaps be excusives for thenm as well, or not released at all?

Unless I'm totally forgetting it, Japan isn't getting the exclusive Studio Series Thundercracker in another line that's basically Hasbro's same figures, though they're putting a bit more effort into the packaging. That might mean exclusives aren't part of the sharing deal.

I could see Nemesis Prime showing up on Takara Tomy Mall or TRU Japan as a "USA Edition", but not the others.

Emerje

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962523)
Posted by starrhero on May 31st, 2018 @ 6:21pm CDT

While the Optimal Optimus figure looks rather good for what it is and what they had to work with, and with the gimmick integrated as well, the vehicle mode for Primal by himself is absolutely lazy.

So far only Hot Rod/Nemesis Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron?) has a competent vehicle mode by himself, not even Optimus Prime can claim that fame.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962548)
Posted by Lucky Logician on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:20pm CDT

I was already pretty sure that the black figure serves no purpose for combining, but this picture confirms it. After seeing this, I am SO tempted to just punch out that pin and have two Optimals on display.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962549)
Posted by Hotconvoy on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:24pm CDT

Lucky Logician wrote:I was already pretty sure that the black figure serves no purpose for combining, but this picture confirms it. After seeing this, I am SO tempted to just punch out that pin and have two Optimals on display.

Hey, maybe a 3P company will make a kit that will conect the head/chest to the rest of the large Primal and gorila parts for the Small Primal.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962551)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:38pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Also, Will *exclusives* such as Nemesis Prime, Wreck-Gar, Counter Punch & repugnus get releases by , or will these perhaps be excusives for thenm as well, or not released at all?

Unless I'm totally forgetting it, Japan isn't getting the exclusive Studio Series Thundercracker in another line that's basically Hasbro's same figures, though they're putting a bit more effort into the packaging. That might mean exclusives aren't part of the sharing deal.

Yup, Studio Series Thundercracker is skipped by TakaraTomy, resulted in their numbering being off by one starting with Jazz.

Wreck-Gar, Counterpunch, Repugnus and Blast Off (shame on you for forgetting him!) will have to find a proper outlet, but Nemesis Prime is a global Amazon exclusive, which may include Japan.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962552)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:57pm CDT

to be honest would anybody have noticed it if it wasnt pointed out?
because at first all i see is a black square with a white autobot logo and 4 microscopic white dots
and the square is already pretty tiny to begin with

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962554)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:27pm CDT

MAGA versions will be the most COLLECTIBLE! :lol:

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962556)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:36pm CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:As for wave saturation, living in the UK, we get one or two max. So shopping online is normally my default anyway. Welcome to how tf fans in the UK feel.

While I do live in the States.... I feel like I'm slowly forced to shop online for figures too... between strange distribution patterns (at target) or lack of product at all (walmart). My biggest gripe about online shopping is trying to get single units at MSRP... they're either wave/cases (BBTS/EE/TFSource) or sold out instantly and jacked up (Amazon).

I do miss the actual hunt... but it's just no fun any more, or cheap (gas). Although Toys R Us usually left me more disappointed more often.... they would occasionally surprise me with things I didn't even know existed. For the post part they were to sold distributor of the Power Rangers Legacy System, or NECA/McFarlane figures. Target is starting to get into some of that with their "geek corner". Never thought I'd see the day that Nendroids were sold at mass-retail in the US.

Back on topic: I'm curious if we'll see Predaking at brick and mortar. Toys R Us seemed to be the only store I ever (rarely) saw them. Target had the Combiner War boxsets online though... I wonder if they'd done better on the shelf? (But that *is* a lot of real-estate to take up).

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962560)
Posted by Skritz on June 1st, 2018 @ 12:47am CDT

While he may have many flaws and I'm sure most purists will be glad to 'skip' on him I still think that Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus has better display options and p;ay value than previous Leader Evolution. However it's clear this guy would have been better with a big wheel to fill out his back and allow for his missing ground vehicle mode. On the more positive side, his two robot modes are, sacrifices made for gimmick aside, rather spot on all things considered, safe for a distinctly less metallic palette.

This is going to be a Leader class I'm sure many will pass on and I can't blame them as he certainly lose value without the nostalgia factor. That and I can't really imagine the kids will like him due to his coloration and a lack of understanding and attachment to Beast Wars.

And to you angry Star Saber fans; trust me guys, if we all had known about the line gimmick for Leaders he would have gotten 100% of the fan vote and no one would be mad. While I do find this is an interesting concept of a figure I would have certainly preferred some form for Primal without the gimmick in the long run as it would have made for a more solid toy.

But hey...he still seem quite fun. Haters gonna hate.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962563)
Posted by Coptur on June 1st, 2018 @ 4:02am CDT

Is the 'official' line up for the Elita-1 combiner Novastar, Moondancer, Jazz & Wreck Gar?

Leaving Starscream with Dreadwind, Blackwing, Blast-Off (shuttle) & ???

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962565)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 1st, 2018 @ 4:09am CDT

There is no official line up for Starscream, Elita 1 or Inferno. Just mix and match per your imagination

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962566)
Posted by Coptur on June 1st, 2018 @ 4:14am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:There is no official line up for Starscream, Elita 1 or Inferno. Just mix and match per your imagination

ah yes I forgot about Inferno

Con limbs
Dreadwind
Blackwing
Blast-Off (Shuttle)
Counterpunch !?! (can switch between the two sides) :-?

buy two everyone :lol:

Bot limbs
Jazz
Moondancer
Novastar
Wreck Gar
Counterpunch !?! (can switch between the two sides) :-?

buy two everyone :lol:

Repugnus

8 limbs only 5 Bots :-(

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962571)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on June 1st, 2018 @ 7:00am CDT

Lucky Logician wrote:I was already pretty sure that the black figure serves no purpose for combining, but this picture confirms it. After seeing this, I am SO tempted to just punch out that pin and have two Optimals on display.

You lose the jet mode doing that since the connection point is on the inner Primal, unless there was a second one somewhere in there I missed.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962575)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 1st, 2018 @ 7:27am CDT

I was hopeful on Primal, but yeah after seeing the video, I'm disappointed. I'll still get him since his combined Robot mode looks good, but the rest is pretty awful.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962578)
Posted by Lucky Logician on June 1st, 2018 @ 8:42am CDT

Twitchythe3rd wrote:You lose the jet mode doing that since the connection point is on the inner Primal, unless there was a second one somewhere in there I missed.

This toy is already missing the 'tank' mode, so losing the 'jet' mode is no big deal to me.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962579)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2018 @ 8:45am CDT

Lucky Logician wrote:
Twitchythe3rd wrote:You lose the jet mode doing that since the connection point is on the inner Primal, unless there was a second one somewhere in there I missed.

This toy is already missing the 'tank' mode, so losing the 'jet' mode is no big deal to me.

Then what's the point of him being Optimal Optimus if he loses both of the two modes that made that body form of his so special? Gorilla mode was nothing to sneeze at. Primal barely even used it.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962625)
Posted by Lucky Logician on June 1st, 2018 @ 6:46pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Then what's the point of him being Optimal Optimus if he loses both of the two modes that made that body form of his so special? Gorilla mode was nothing to sneeze at. Primal barely even used it.

Honestly, you do make a good point. That being said, I guess what I want to express is extreme disappointment with the 'evolution' gimmick in a character I loved growing up and was looking forward to a new toy of.

Hot Rod and Orion Pax become an essential part of the chest of the larger figure. Optimus Primal literally becomes backpack kibble. There has been a lot of great and fun engineering in transformers the past few years. Optimal Optimus just feels like he was created overnight.

Other POTP toys give me play mechanics I don't get in prior versions of the same characters. The POTP Optimal Optimus is strictly worse that the original BW toy that I already own. He loses the tank mode and only gains a half gray/half black surfboard.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962627)
Posted by Skritz on June 1st, 2018 @ 6:48pm CDT

Well I'm not completely sure how doable an 'Optimus Primal to Optimal Optimus' was on the basis that, unlike the previous two figures, his forms have two completely different color schemes. The only want he could have worked better was if one form had been compromised in its look/color palette, which you'll note that for all the flaws of the figure this is not something to fault this one: the color and shape of both robot modes are, backpack parts aside, completely spot-on.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962628)
Posted by Lucky Logician on June 1st, 2018 @ 6:54pm CDT

Skritz wrote:Well I'm not completely sure how doable an 'Optimus Primal to Optimal Optimus' was on the basis that, unlike the previous two figures, his forms have two completely different color schemes. The only want he could have worked better was if one form had been compromised in its look/color palette, which you'll note that for all the flaws of the figure this is not something to fault this one: the color and shape of both robot modes are, backpack parts aside, completely spot-on.

I understand and agree with your point. I just wish that the black robot could collapse inside of the orange robot's chest cavity or something.

The looks of them are amazingly spot on... which is why I'm okay separating the two of them. Optimal Optimus can still transform between robot and gorilla. Optimus Primal can just sit there and pretend to be a pre-BW version in robot mode.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962629)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 1st, 2018 @ 6:57pm CDT

Honest opinion from me?

This figure is why I’m upset Star Saber didn’t win the poll. Dude is literally perfect for the line’s leader gimmick yet the oust him and shoehorn Primal into something he shouldn’t have been in. Voyager figure that goes from cartoon-like bot to gorilla, sure, but not this guy.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962633)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on June 1st, 2018 @ 7:16pm CDT

I'm a Beast Wars fan. Heck, I've got Rhinox on my voicemail, for crying out loud. I follow Garry Chalk on Facebook. I watched Duck Tales and immediately recognized David Kaye playing Scrooge's ghost butler.

That all said--if I knew that the line's gimmick was going to be what it is, I would have been campaigning HARD for Star Saber. Not because I have a lot of love for the figure (though I do have a semi-working minus guns and weapons version of the G1 toy), but because it FITS the gimmick so well.

Optimus Primal doesn't, and (I think this is important) when they said Optimus Primal, I doubt most of the audience was thinking about a new Optimal Optimus toy. We wanted our freaking monkey bot.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962634)
Posted by BombshellDaBug on June 1st, 2018 @ 7:19pm CDT

Shame to hear that Optimus Primal isn't as good as he could have been, but I'm likely to still get him since it's an accessible version of a character that I've wanted in my collection for a while. Besides, I love me some Beast Wars and I'll take whatever Beast Wars toys I can get.

Also, I posted this in the toy haul thread, but Cindersaur showed up in the mail today and I figured I'd share his Amalgamous Prime card.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962635)
Posted by Skritz on June 1st, 2018 @ 7:33pm CDT

Yeah well, when we voted we didn't know about the gimmick. And probably neither did Hasbro at the time. >:oP

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962643)
Posted by Skritz on June 1st, 2018 @ 9:06pm CDT

BombshellDaBug wrote:Shame to hear that Optimus Primal isn't as good as he could have been, but I'm likely to still get him since it's an accessible version of a character that I've wanted in my collection for a while. Besides, I love me some Beast Wars and I'll take whatever Beast Wars toys I can get.

Also, I posted this in the toy haul thread, but Cindersaur showed up in the mail today and I figured I'd share his Amalgamous Prime card.

Fucking hilarious! Cindersaur-Inferno custom when? :lol:

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962651)
Posted by bacem on June 1st, 2018 @ 10:13pm CDT

after seeing that review, while i still think he looks fun, i also feels like he doesn't get as much love from the designers, compared to another figures from this line. guess this is what happens, when a hardcore g1 fans designer, who even consider BW as obscure, forced to make BW character because he unexpectedly won the vote.

Re: Running Change for Transformers Power of the Primes Jazz Confirmed with MAGA Removed (1962664)
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:50pm CDT

Upcoming Takara listings for POTP in November