SDCC 2013 Coverage: Transformers Generations Voyager Whirl and Deluxe Dreadwing
Wednesday, July 17th, 2013 9:29PM CDT
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Posted by Starwave Prime on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:30pm CDT
'cept Metroplex of course
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:35pm CDT
I too was hoping for a MTMTE design.
Oh well. BRING ON THE BUILD-A-BOT RESULTS!
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:48pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:49pm CDT
Starwave Prime wrote:No offense meant to anyone who likes the figure, but every new Generations toy I see reaffirms my recent decision to stop collecting everything except Masterpiece, the quality just doesn't seem to be there anymore when comparing these figures to those that come from earlier in the "classics" lines
No offense taken, but I respectfully disagree. At least in the voyagers' case - Springer is nearly indisputably awesome, and I love Blitzwing all the same. Guess we'll have to wait for Whirl to release before we get a final verdict either way.
Posted by RAcast on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:53pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:53pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:54pm CDT
And actually, Dreadwing was on display at BotCon. On that note: good Lord, he's even more mistransformed than he was at BotCon!
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:54pm CDT
RAcast wrote:I love how people are making decisions about it's "quality" and "size" when we haven't had it in hand or even SEEN IT next to anything well enough to compare it's size to yet.
This.
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:56pm CDT
Seeing that Dreadwing makes me wonder how properly transformed everyone else is...
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 17th, 2013 @ 9:58pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:02pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:RAcast wrote:I love how people are making decisions about it's "quality" and "size" when we haven't had it in hand or even SEEN IT next to anything well enough to compare it's size to yet.
This.
I mean, I could understand comments like "Hey, I think it looks good/bad because x, y, and z. And I like/dislike that it looks like IDW/G1 Whirl instead of ___ Whirl. Also I'm concerned about the weirdness with the shoulder struts, but I would assume that's some manner of mistransformation."
Comments like that? I totally get. But it's just silly to comment on the "quality" of a thing you know nothing about, unless you're from the future and have a production sample on hand.
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:02pm CDT
phase wrote:The Variable wrote:Slightly disappointed that they weren't using the IDW treatment for Whirl's design. I really like the VTOL mode he has there. But a Voyager scale update to the original toy is still full of awesome.sixshot20 wrote:Man bit of a letdown I thought he was going to be like the MTMTE Whirl . He still looks nice as an updated G1 Whirl though.
The reason they couldn't do MTMTE Whirl is the fact that not only his skinny, curved legs would be hard to articulate, he'd be as top-heavy as Mega-class Cheetor, if not more-so. They could've done his pre-MTMTE design, though.
They could have easily put a new head and paint on the old generations springer and had MtMtE Whirl done really nice.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:05pm CDT
RAcast wrote:....unless you're from the future and have a production sample on hand.
...Yeah, haha, totally. Not like no one here is from the future or anything!
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:27pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:29pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:I'm thinking Whirl's legs can be reconfigured into a digitrade setup, like so:
Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly.
Posted by Blozor on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:30pm CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:33pm CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:48pm CDT
Oh, and Trailbreak is awesome, so Hoist is as well.
I am no longer interested in Metroplex. Not until I can first own a Unicron that trumps it in size.
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 17th, 2013 @ 10:59pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly.
Yep, in the current MtMtE series he's got chicken legs, as well as a few other odd features.
Posted by Flashwave on July 17th, 2013 @ 11:00pm CDT
But then, I love that Whirl co,mes with FOUR different weapons.
Now, here's hoping for a Rotorstorm repaint!!
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2013 @ 11:01pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Chicken legs ala Movie Starscream? Interesting. Did he have his legs like that in any media? I haven't read any of the comics, sadly.
Yep, in the current MtMtE series he's got chicken legs, as well as a few other odd features.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks!
It would be interesting if his legs are capable of doing that.
Posted by ILL-Star on July 17th, 2013 @ 11:06pm CDT
Like others I was looking forward to an IDW Whirl. I do think he looks pretty good though. But he does look kinda outdated. I suppose he's too G1.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2013 @ 11:16pm CDT
Posted by sabrigami on July 17th, 2013 @ 11:20pm CDT
Posted by T-Macksimus on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:28am CDT
I'm glad they went this direction with him. I was so horribly disappointed with the repaint treatment they gave the combiner Wreckers and honestly, attempting to make the toys in exactly the same style as their MTMTE and RID comic counterparts would frustrate the toy designers and be a discredit to the comic artists when the finished product rolled out. This, going back to the basics of G1 designs, is going to make a LOT of collectors very happy. This is what the Classics/Generations line is all about anyways. Paying tribute to the originals but with some update to the design/articulation and I think this works splendidly. Those of you bitching about his appearance obviously don't seem to care that the "Generations" label is boldly displayed at the top of the packaging. Go back to your Mega-Zords if you want something totally unrelated to the origins of this franchise.
Now bring on Road Buster and give us Twin Twist and Top Spin done RIGHT because the combiner versions of all those figures were just insulting.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on July 18th, 2013 @ 2:50am CDT
Despite the mistransformation, it looks like it could look pretty good. I just hope that shortened tail in alt mode is also a mistransformation.
Not a fan of the G1 colors, to be honest.
If I can get my hands on the more affordable Hasbro version, as opposed to the Takara versions my hobby store tends to bring in, this thing is getting repainted in olive drab for an original character custom.
Posted by Convotron on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:05am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 18th, 2013 @ 8:10am CDT
Posted by El Duque on July 18th, 2013 @ 8:13am CDT
Posted by Tigertrack on July 18th, 2013 @ 8:22am CDT
I'll buy it and may end up liking it. The thing about a Rotorstorm reprint could be cool, but with the club doing MW Sandstorm using the DOTM Skyhammer mold, I'd rather see the club also tackle Rotorstorm and give him a new head. It would be a nice circular relationship similar to how the Rotorstorm mold was originally reprinted into MW Sandstorm.
Anyway, this makes all of my 3 rd party Whirl kits now useless.
Posted by ScottyP on July 18th, 2013 @ 8:39am CDT
tigertracks 24 wrote:
Anyway, this makes all of my 3 rd party Whirl kits now useless.
Oh man, that's a good call. How many of those are there? Eight?
Posted by GuyIncognito on July 18th, 2013 @ 9:22am CDT
The fact that he resembles the original so much is just icing on the cake! I'm super excited for this figure.
Posted by dirk2243 on July 18th, 2013 @ 10:56am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on July 18th, 2013 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by Genocide G2.0 on July 18th, 2013 @ 1:22pm CDT
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:08pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:20pm CDT
I'm also certain that I read somewhere on TFW2005 that he's also capable of having chicken legs. I'm probably wrong, but something to keep in mind.
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on July 18th, 2013 @ 3:52pm CDT
I'm just gonna move him from "pass" to "iffy" on my wishlist.
Posted by Sodan-1 on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:51pm CDT
Dreadwing still looks good, if mis-transformed.
Posted by RAcast on July 18th, 2013 @ 4:57pm CDT
Sodan-1 wrote:I don't want to hear any claims of being mis-transformed or badly posed; there's nothing that can save this Whirl figure for me. It just looks too different from any other Transformer figure found on the shelves today.
Dreadwing still looks good, if mis-transformed.
It's always weird to me to hear people say things that are diametrically opposed to something a GEEWUNER would say.
What do you collect, Sodan?
Posted by LiKwid on July 18th, 2013 @ 5:27pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 19th, 2013 @ 12:05pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Yo guys, he's definitely all kinds of mistransformed. Here's the official product images for Whirl:
I'm also certain that I read somewhere on TFW2005 that he's also capable of having chicken legs. I'm probably wrong, but something to keep in mind.
That looks way better than horrible, but still not IDW enough like I was expecting. It does at least bring back fond memories of being 8yrs old
Posted by Dead Metal on July 20th, 2013 @ 4:29am CDT
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 20th, 2013 @ 8:23am CDT
It's a mix of both the G1 design and the IDW design. The head and legs are IDW-based, while the rest of it is G1 Whirl.Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
Posted by RhA on July 20th, 2013 @ 8:33am CDT
Posted by Stormrider on July 20th, 2013 @ 9:07am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
The design of this figure and your argument completely deflates others' speculation that MP Soundwave could not be done because Takara/Hasbro do not own the rights to the original toy.
Posted by Dead Metal on July 20th, 2013 @ 9:30am CDT
Stormrider wrote:I really really like the design of this figure.Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
The design of this figure and your argument completely deflates others' speculation that MP Soundwave could not be done because Takara/Hasbro do not own the rights to the original toy.
?
Last I checked Soundwave's original toy originated from Takara's Microchange toyline. If Takara didn't own the rights to that, we probably wouldn't have gotten an MP Megatron, or reissues of either of the originals for that matter.
Posted by RAcast on July 20th, 2013 @ 10:01am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:Stormrider wrote:I really really like the design of this figure.Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
The design of this figure and your argument completely deflates others' speculation that MP Soundwave could not be done because Takara/Hasbro do not own the rights to the original toy.
?
Last I checked Soundwave's original toy originated from Takara's Microchange toyline. If Takara didn't own the rights to that, we probably wouldn't have gotten an MP Megatron, or reissues of either of the originals for that matter.
Not to mention that ridiculous Linkin Park version of G1 Soundwave.
Posted by Dead Metal on July 20th, 2013 @ 10:44am CDT
RAcast wrote:Dead Metal wrote:Stormrider wrote:I really really like the design of this figure.Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
I still don't understand why this is based on the original toy instead of the idw design like most of the other figures, I thought Generations current incarnation was supposed to be idw.
That said I still think he looks epic.
The design of this figure and your argument completely deflates others' speculation that MP Soundwave could not be done because Takara/Hasbro do not own the rights to the original toy.
?
Last I checked Soundwave's original toy originated from Takara's Microchange toyline. If Takara didn't own the rights to that, we probably wouldn't have gotten an MP Megatron, or reissues of either of the originals for that matter.
Not to mention that ridiculous Linkin Park version of G1 Soundwave.
Yea, that still manages to piss me off.
Posted by El Duque on July 21st, 2013 @ 7:56am CDT
Dead Metal wrote:Now here's the thing, he looks so very much like the original toy which along with its design is still owned by Bandai.
So wouldn't this be pretty much the exact same thing as all the 3rd Party figures by FP, iGear, and co, which are apparently so very very evil?
Just like Classics Jetfire is a third-party Valkyrie
I love that he's such a departure from the rest of the line, that exactly how the G1 toy was. G1 Whirl sticks out like a sore thumb in a G1 collection, but he's a Transformer none the less. Glad they went this route.