Seibertron.com's gallery and review of ROTF Devastator
Friday, July 17th, 2009 9:05PM CDT
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dahpadre wrote:
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen: Constructicon Devastator
This is my first review so forgive me if it comes off either too simple or too detailed.
This figure has caught a ton of heat ever since it was pretty much announced. In fact I think the only good impression it had was at the New York Toy Fare when it was first unveiled. Most of the complaints it caught were unjust, but enough of them did have valid reason. So lets begin. I'll start with the individual VEHICLES, and I will stress VEHICLES since they are either that or the various appendages that make up Devastator.
Mixmaster (head): He is a large, ultra class silver, light gray, and dark gray cement mixer, with blue/purple painted windows. Sorry not actual translucent plastic. For what he is I would say he actually has nice detail. Along the rear you can see what is made to be the pipe work for cement to be poured from along with rivets and simulated panels, and red painted tail lights. The drawback, it is all done in the dark gray tone, so there is no definition to it. it comes off as a Tonka toy where it's enough for the imagination, but seeing what has been done in terms of movie figures it's a big let down. Now along to the cement mixer chamber it is done in sections of alternating light gray and dark. Missing from the detail is the ominous Decepticon faction symbol. Something as simple as that would add so much to this figure. As for the cab it takes on the mostly dark gray color with a light gray bumper and crash bar. Surprisingly done well is the detail for the door, gas tank, side mirrors and off road lamps. Missing once again is the additional paint applications to add definition, as mostly all is done it the dark gray with no separation to look as if real effort was done to make this feel like a transformer by appearance. Last but not least is a randomly activated vehicle sound. Random because you don't have to do much but touch it and it makes this annoying sound. Hair trigger is an understatement. Rating this vehicle alone on a 1-10 scale I'd go 5 to 5.5
Scavenger (torso): To any that have seen the YouTube review, you know this guy is massive (bigger than leader class). Easily dwarfing the vehicle mode of ROTF Leader class Optimus Prime. It is represented as an excavator done in a burnt orange and white with gray painted windows, and dark gray faux treads (actual/typical tiny wheels that make it roll) and shovel. Highlighted is signs of a good paint job as the Decepticon logo is done in white along with the letters SCVNGR, which is done in an imperfect paint job as if this vehicle has been in use for a few jobs, and wear and tear have taken its effect on the paint job. Don't get me wrong for detailing, that is it The shovel itself has three (3) points of articulation. The shovel section, lower arm, and base to the arm that connects to the main vehicle. For a sandbox toy that you'd give to a 6 year old, that is awesome. The savvy collector I'd give it a nice grin. The main vehicle body is done in decent detail, where you can see simulated railings, gears, and a ladders for electrical access and a human operator. From a top view you are exposed to more detail which sadly stands out as the crown jewel of detail as far as Devastator as a whole goes. There is the presence of fans, vents, walkways and various other things you can expect to come across on a true to life construction vehicle. From the underside view you can't help but get this "HALLOW" feeling. Why? because that is just what it is. The underside is the resting place for Mixmaster in bot mode. I give this guy a 6.5 for his vehicle rating.
Scrapper (right arm): This is represented by a voyager class wheel loader, done in a mostly goldish yellow, with a large gold engine on the front end of the vehicle. This figure as well demonstrates detail of gears, hydraulics, stairs and hand rails with exhaust pipes towards the rear. On the large block engine is the Faction logo painted in silver, I'm gonna say this is nicely done overall until you get to the shovel. It has nice detail, but pulls a big zero in articulation. When in vehicle mode there is no pose-ability. I wish there were more to say of it, but that is about it for Scrapper. 4 for scrapper.
Hightower (left arm): Represented by a truss crane, done in solid happy meal toy yellow. I Can leave the review of this figure there, as you can expect no more, and probably get less. But I will not cheat it as so. The cabin for the figure is don in the same coldish yellow as Scrappers engine block with the painted windows in the same color as the other Constructicons. Also painted is the Decepticon logo near the rear. The choice of this particular vehicle is puzzling, cause the real life form has just as much detail. 2 rating for this guy.
Rampage (left leg): A yellow deluxe class bulldozer with amazing detail done in the same color yellow as Scrapper. Side by side comparisons put his vehicle mode on the level of the wave 1 deluxe class rampage with robot form minus rubber treads. Also unlike scrapper the shovel carries articulation in motion and paint scheme. There is the presence of a shadowed gray to represent a used dirty feel that you would normally see on a real life bulldozer. From the sides you can see the workings of an engine, vents, wires, and hydraulics. 6 rating for this con.
Long Haul (right leg): Green deluxe class dump truck with weathering/dirty shadowed gray toward the bottom of the load carrying portion of the truck. From the sides and front attention to detail was well thought out with railings, but poorly executed. The cabin portion of the cab the typical painted window detail with areas represented as the door and access panel, to the right of this there are formations of exhaust pipes and engine sections. Also is the Decepticon symbol to the front of the engine block. Missing from this is simple paint to show the all important definition of this vehicle. As for articulation in this mold.....It rolls! Alas it is a dump truck that instead of dumping debris, it just takes a dump. Long Haul earns a 3.
Now on to the bread an butter of this gift set......
Devastator: Skill level of this figure is said to be level 4 which is the highest rated of transformers. I know these rating are given out based on size, not actual effort. For the transformation sequence I've provided a pic of the instructions Devastator came along with. Sorry the scanner is incapacitated right now.
This guy puts the term Hulking at a new level. The width of this guy is the equivalent of Leader class Optimus Prime, Megatron and Ironhide from shoulder to shoulder. Front to back this guy clears approximately 10 inches from face to "hump". Done in nice detail this form is easily gorilla like with the long bulky arms and shorter bent legs. To answer can he walk on all fours? Yes. Recommended? No. This form is definitely the saving grace of a seemingly lost cause. With the transformation of the limbs come a new level of detail that make the parts seem as if the went through some serious twisting and rearranging to reach this form. At glance you can no longer recognize the original vehicle forms of each construction vehicle. Robot mode is highly poseable with all joints capable of range of motion equivalent to a double jointed human. There is no lack of poses this figure can be put in. Note: due to the top heaviness, some positions may need additional support.
There are two (2) claw like hands consisting of three (3) fingers each that can open wide, but not truly grasp anything other than Autobot chassis to throw in the well represented Vortex Grindor, which can be activated by depressing the typical center mech alive button found in the center chest much like all movie leader class figures. Once activated you'll be treated to several sounds to the effect of the actual revving sounds of the suction device, phrases such as "crush Autobots", "I am Devastator", and the all too sinister laugh. He actually has more sounds than the box would lead to believe. The actual detail to this vortex grindor is amazing. Inside the mouth there is articulation representing a spiraling death device all throughout. It puts you in the mind of anything unfortunate enough to come into contact will be destroyed on contact. Also there are approximately 8 LED lights in the back of the mouth that flash and spin to enhance the grinding effect.
The face of this beast is also pretty accurate showing several green eyes (ten by my count). The main four also have the blinking LED effect. Also is the lower jaw shown in a 2 part mandible, much like the vampires in the Blade movies. When activated, the mouth opens wide enough to fit deluxe class Mudflap inside. Which I know will make for great gallery imagery. Detailed is the face with a mangled mass of light gray plastic with splashes of neon green paint. The length of the head which doubles as Mixmaster's cement barrel has folded back panels that expose the outer gears of the vortex grindor, with splashes of neon green paint as well which I'm guessing are to represent the oozing fluids of defeated foes. From the top and side views this guy look imposing and moderately cool. The back view gives you nothing more that a view of Scavenger's shovel and Mixmaster's cab. Sorry no wrecking balls of devastation.
What you get is 6 construction vehicles with lackluster detail and no individual robot modes that merge to form a 85% screen accurate Devastator. I would say 95%, but missing is the 7th Constructicon (the articulated dump truck). It goes as high as 85% because if you did see the movie you will know that the Constructicons that actually formed Devastator did not have individual robot forms. I'm guessing, based on their screen time, Hasbro might have a valid point with the lack of detail to the vehicles.
The overall impression that I am left with for the Devastator form is a strong 8 out of 10. The only things truly missing is the height, and the detailing that Leader class Optimus Prime carries in a paint job. To touch on the size, I'll say in a normal stance he is larger than Supreme class Animated Prime, but if you were to extend the legs straight he is actually taller than Unicron. Due to weight issue without a stand, he could never stay in this pose.
To wrap things up if you are a collector and want all figures represented in the movie, go out and get him, but wait for the inevitable price drop. The $99.99 price tag is definitely not warranted when given the lack of detail to the individual vehicle forms, but I would honestly jump at paying $59.99 for this guy.
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Posted by Mach on July 17th, 2009 @ 9:09pm CDT
I think the paintwork is lacking. If i gonna get this, i will find someone to help me do repaint.
Repaint like below link help to improve the look of it a lot.
http://www.hk-tf.com/discuz/upload/view ... a=page%3D3
Posted by Primus1101 on July 17th, 2009 @ 9:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:03pm CDT
If he goes on clearance I'll jump at the chance to get him. But let me ask this. If Ultimate Bumblebee never went down passed $85 bucks, how do we know if Devy will go down further?
Posted by UltraPrimal on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:10pm CDT
Posted by cybertronslasthope on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:13pm CDT
damn what a crappy paint job. i had hopes it was going to look battle damaged like the repaint link posted. i agree on waiting for a price drop for this.Sabrblade wrote:Great review. Not-so-great figure. I mean, I do want him, but this is just sad for a Movie/ROTF figure when compared to the other figures of the two movie toylines.
If he goes on clearance I'll jump at the chance to get him. But let me ask this. If Ultimate Bumblebee never went down passed $85 bucks, how do we know if Devy will go down further?
dude im pissed, Ultimate Bumblebee sold out at my local target for 60 bucks. so yeah devy could see a price drop.
Posted by rpetras on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:18pm CDT
Now I'm rethinking skipping this guy.
I'll go with a plan to wait for him to go on sale.
(man I have a weak will)
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:28pm CDT
Posted by Kuribohfett on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:29pm CDT
I do have to disagree with you on one thing though, I DO think it's worth the 100 bucks. This figure really feels something like something unique and special.
Is it worth the extra thirty I paid. Meh, not really. But oh well, what're you going to do?
I've been playing with Mixmaster for a couple of hours now, he's fine with me.
Posted by Heckfire on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:39pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Rodimus on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:51pm CDT
Anyways, why didn't you review Mixmaster? He's one of the vehicles too, and yet I see no review of him! Other than that, cool review. WHAT? Scavenger's bigger than Leader OP???
I'll get him if he goes for $5.00-9.99, but other than that, not likely, unless it is a Christmas or B-day gift.
Posted by Nemesis Rodimus on July 17th, 2009 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 18th, 2009 @ 12:31am CDT
Also, I KNOW a G1 colour repaint is going to be made available. The G1 style MixMaster forshadows it!
Posted by zebanshee on July 18th, 2009 @ 1:10am CDT
Posted by Superior Prime09 on July 18th, 2009 @ 1:35am CDT
Kuribohfett wrote:Got mine today too. Agree with some parts of the review, disagree with others. On the whole, I very much love this figure.
I do have to disagree with you on one thing though, I DO think it's worth the 100 bucks. This figure really feels something like something unique and special.
Is it worth the extra thirty I paid. Meh, not really. But oh well, what're you going to do?
I've been playing with Mixmaster for a couple of hours now, he's fine with me.
I agree with you, I'll defenitly be getting him in the full price range. probaly won't be re-painting him (on account that I'm a horrible painter). But I want to at least get leader Jetfire first, then get ol Devz.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on July 18th, 2009 @ 1:58am CDT
Posted by Tyrannotaur on July 18th, 2009 @ 1:59am CDT
I wonder if Hasbro would release a G1 repaint. I doubt it since I don't know if this guy will sell very well.
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on July 18th, 2009 @ 2:51am CDT
Is it worth $100? Probably not. But then again, I wanted it so it was worth it to me. It fits in with the few onscreen movie figures I am getting.
At about $13 for a deluxe now (estimating with tax), Devastator comes in at the price of about 8 deluxe figures. That's five Voyager size ($125) and one Ultra size ($35) figures you get with Devastator compared to 8 little figures ($104). The drawback is yes, those bigger figures don't transform and the paint apps suck. Honestly, when combined the paint apps look fine. The missing detail is most noticeable when you look at each individual figure uncombined.
Here is another comparison to ponder. Leader Prime weighs 1.25 pounds. Leader Megatron is 1.4 pounds Devastator weighs 4 pounds. That is about $34 per pound of plastic for the Leader figures compared to $25 per pound for Devastator.
Pound for pound, Devastator doesn't look to0 bad. I'm kidding with this comparison, but there is a hint of a point. Heft. Devastator is one solid, hefty Tonka truck of a figure. When you hold it you know where that money went.
Those waiting for a sale - great. I hope it happens. I won't regret it. In my years as a collector I have seen expensive figures bottom out and cheap figures skyrocket in collector's value. I have also seen large figures with smartly produced numbers sell out at their retail price point. Will Hasbro flood the market? If so, then you will probably see sales. If they are smart and produce a just right amount, then those sales may not be so plentiful (think Ultimate Bumblebee). It is hard to say what will happen with this set. BBTS is back-ordering them again, so the fact they sold their stock twice might indicate smaller deliveries.
Posted by Warbreaker on July 18th, 2009 @ 4:05am CDT
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-Scrapper does have an articulated scoop - you have to disconnect his middle shovel segment from the bottom of his alt-mode to achieve this but it can be done pretty easily, and the connecting tab can be nicely folded out of the way. However in gestalt-mode, bringing the scoop-turned-fingers together is nearly impossible to achieve thanks to the front 2 wheels getting in the way (There's the option of switching the scoop arms on their ball joints - I haven't tried it myself though....).
-Although Devastator's lever-activated voice gimmicks are random, you can hold down his lever for a good second or two as a surefire method of getting his awesome Vortex Grinder noise (Sometimes followed up by Devastator saying something).
-Rampage has an impressive bit of detail - the spokes on his treads that become his back-legs in robot mode are included. It's a pity the others weren't given this sort of treatment to indicate any hint of their bot-modes (not that we've seen toys of Scrapper and Hightower though).
-It's not just Mixmaster, Devastator also has Motion-activated sounds, moving him occasionally causes laughing, stomping and other sounds. Feels rather appropriate if you ask me.
-The cavity that forms Devastator's Vortex Grinder is BIG - you could cram in roughly 3 legends-class autobots! Dangit, now I feel like getting me some of the miniature blighters (Alternatively, one Legends Mudflap will do just as nicely, though you won't catch me getting that ugly thing).
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My opinion? Devastator is very, VERY impressive, but his alt-modes blow, especially Hightower's. What's "no robot mode" on Hightower's model sheet supposed to mean? No Bot-mode Hightower toy? ANSWER ME, HASBRO!!!! <furiously shakes monitor> I'd say to keep him in gestalt-mode, but there's no harm in splitting him down once in a while. Not enough paint? Well, I suppose I could try touching up the big guy with some paint later. His motion activated sounds gimmick is VERY nice, but it gets a tad overexcessive with Mixmaster alone. Nevertheless, after viewing galleries of EZ Devastator, I'd say Supreme makes a miles-better combiner, especially when most of the bot-modes in EZ are underpainted and butt-ugly(EZ Mixmaster's face is giving me that same feeling I had when I saw Skids and Mudflap's faces for the first time).
Oh, and Lapse Of Reason, after giving it some thought, I believe your Devastator's snapped wires may have been due to being cut too short. I've manhandled mine in a suicidal attempt to break the wires and the big guy's guffawing at my idiotic attempts to mute him.
Posted by barricade2218 on July 18th, 2009 @ 7:47am CDT
Given the size these will require on a retailers shelf, and the fact that this was made more for us fanboys rather than mom buying a $100 toy for junior, I don't think you will see a lot of them. It will be like Ultimate BB, a few here and there. I don't think Hasbro will over produce these and you will see them at a $50 price point on clearance. I recently saw them on e-bay going for over $225 when they first came out.
Considering the Legends Dev is over $50, I don't think the price is bad for what you are getting. Wait till they are in the secondary market exclusively, you'll wish you paid the $100.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2009 @ 8:22am CDT
2 Feet tall MY FOOT!
Posted by Warbreaker on July 18th, 2009 @ 8:56am CDT
The only prices I've seen so far on legends-class Devastator is just as much as, if not, MORE than the supreme-class Devastator, probably mostly because it's a Takara-manufactured product only until 2010 when Hasbro picks up the trail as well. I mean, $150 for 7 teeny underpainted, not-exactly-pretty bots that combine to a gestalt just barely taller than Deluxe-class Skids?
I paid $125.54 for a MASSIVE figure with 20 times more mass than that EZ thingy and I don't regret it at all.
Posted by sideswipe98 on July 18th, 2009 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by skywarp-2 on July 18th, 2009 @ 9:50am CDT
Not worth the cost..maybe takara Tomy will do something to this guy with paint apps.. but for a transformer to really be worth all that cost, they should have made the figures individually transform, whether in the movie or not..with some minor paint applications.. then this piece would have been a golden seller..
but I may not even buy it in a G-1 paint scheme either..
But I do see a resemblance between this Devastator and the Diaclone colored one.. if not very small..
http://1501bc.com/pretf/pictures/constr ... bo_1_6.jpg
I simpy just can't get past that it is just tonka trucks and machinery that turns into Devastator.. which belittles the entire purpose of the whole idea of what devastator means..
he's a bunch of constructicons that turn from vehicles to robots.. and with an added Bonus.. they happen to form a giant robot..
Hasbro skipped that and went straight to vehicles and giant gestalt.. which wasn't the point of devastator in the first place..
If it goes on clearance for 60.00 I'll buy it.. maybe.. but for the price it is set for right now, I'd rather buy a real masterpiece transformer..
Posted by LordBludgeon on July 18th, 2009 @ 1:40pm CDT
and I also have a genral question:
Is the supreme class Devastator now available at major retailers? Ex: Wal-Mart, Toys"r"us, Etc...
Posted by dahpadre on July 18th, 2009 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by metaphorge on July 18th, 2009 @ 3:22pm CDT
Warbreaker wrote:The only prices I've seen so far on legends-class Devastator is just as much as, if not, MORE than the supreme-class Devastator, probably mostly because it's a Takara-manufactured product only until 2010 when Hasbro picks up the trail as well. I mean, $150 for 7 teeny underpainted, not-exactly-pretty bots that combine to a gestalt just barely taller than Deluxe-class Skids?
I paid $125.54 for a MASSIVE figure with 20 times more mass than that EZ thingy and I don't regret it at all.
Where are you getting your figures? BBTS has the full set of 7 EZ Constructicons for $54.99.
A case of 24 is $164.99, which would be three sets of 7 and a few extras.
Posted by Jacob P. Galvatron on July 18th, 2009 @ 3:40pm CDT
The individual vehicles look really cruddy.
Posted by GojiraPrime on July 18th, 2009 @ 6:26pm CDT
Just for the record, Ultimate Bumblebee is almost the same price over here, but I would consider that if I saw him.
Posted by prowl123 on July 18th, 2009 @ 7:15pm CDT
Posted by DevastatorPrime77 on July 18th, 2009 @ 8:00pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2009 @ 8:11pm CDT
Posted by Bumblebeast on July 18th, 2009 @ 8:55pm CDT
Posted by Blurrz on July 18th, 2009 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by hary_izmir on July 19th, 2009 @ 12:42am CDT
To be honest I'd relally want this toy,but probably wait until clearance sell,which I predict will take so loooong (for your information:the Transformers 1st Movie Toy Lines are still at normal price here,or perhaps I should ask my friends in USA or Canada to buy there and deliver it to Indonesia.
Thank you all,it's really nice to know you all here in Seibertron.com...
Hope I can update any news 'bout Transformers news in Indonesia.
Posted by Blurrz on July 19th, 2009 @ 12:50am CDT
Posted by Warbreaker on July 19th, 2009 @ 4:15am CDT
metaphorge wrote:Warbreaker wrote:The only prices I've seen so far on legends-class Devastator is just as much as, if not, MORE than the supreme-class Devastator, probably mostly because it's a Takara-manufactured product only until 2010 when Hasbro picks up the trail as well. I mean, $150 for 7 teeny underpainted, not-exactly-pretty bots that combine to a gestalt just barely taller than Deluxe-class Skids?
I paid $125.54 for a MASSIVE figure with 20 times more mass than that EZ thingy and I don't regret it at all.
Where are you getting your figures? BBTS has the full set of 7 EZ Constructicons for $54.99.
A case of 24 is $164.99, which would be three sets of 7 and a few extras.
I got the prices from some local store sellers I've been dealing with frequently. I got floored when I first heard the prices, and when I went on to eBay they were just about the same. Maybe they were all being Scalpers with this opportunity? Or maybe they got their prices set wrong. I never look at BBTS, I'm not comfortable with all this worldwide delivery/online payment hulabaloo.
But seriously, I'm not joking. 7 little things for the price of the case of 24 (or a supreme-class).
Posted by TheSuperUngieReport on July 19th, 2009 @ 6:32pm CDT
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Mixmasters face the EZ version is the PROTOTYPE. Yeah,on ebay I saw a prototype mixmaster with the same style face with the drooping eye thing. Its just the prototype
Posted by Warbreaker on July 20th, 2009 @ 1:02pm CDT
TheSuperUngieReport wrote:Mixmasters face the EZ version is the PROTOTYPE. Yeah,on ebay I saw a prototype mixmaster with the same style face with the drooping eye thing. Its just the prototype
Do you mean you saw the prototype of Voyager-class Mixmaster? If not...
Really? Then there's been quite a bit of prototype pics of him going around, most of them recycled images. For the ones that aren't, personally, I doubt they're prototype pics. Look at the in-package images of him, announced here: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?t=56174; same ugly mug in the bubble.
Posted by yellow Camaro on July 24th, 2009 @ 8:23am CDT
Got mine today. Cool robot mode but definitely needs more and more details, a better paint job, a longer hanging neck and slightly larger legs.
I particularly dislike Mixmaster, it seems parked above the torso,and it is too large: in my opinion Hasbro could have put part of the Devastator's Vortex Grinder and most of the electronics into the huge Scavenger's body, instead of excavating it to create a parking area for a giant mixmaster. And instead of an ultra-class Mixmaster they should have done a deluxe Mixmaster and a voyager Overload .
In conclusion, I like this Devastator but, as it is, it seems to me a FAB Devastator and should cost no more than a leader class.
I really hope to see Reprolabels team-up with one third party, the former producing a lot of stickers and the latter producing replacing parts (neck and Overload? ) and add-ons (I would like to see cables and pistons on the shoulders, for example).