Spoiler Filled EMPIRE Magazine Image Descriptions

Grabbed this image from Alienboy at TFW, but not sure where he got it.



You can clearly see Blackout, Scorponok and Starscream which supports Point #2...

*Egyptian hieroglyphics, turn out to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.

Although, how they have modern alt modes in an Egyptian hieroglyph is beyond me. That's why I'm not sure if Alienbot made this, or got it from the magazine.

i think half of its true the megatron thing could go either half & half i find it hard to belive there is concept movie art for character just for a toy devastator posiible 50 tall still think hes aslightyl bigger than 50 feet tall 6 or 7 bots to form one big one.

i knew if i refreased the home page soon enough there would be some more news one thing im glad about get to see devastator in the brightest light nad the darkest of places.

barley made out blackout at first when he transformed in the first scene in robot mode easery to see what bots look like in the day time than the nihgt

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Although, how they have modern alt modes in an Egyptian hieroglyph is beyond me. That's why I'm not sure if Alienbot made this, or got it from the magazine.

Those are actual real-life hieroglypics with erosion that look like modern vehicles. See here:

http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

damn 40 robots dont ruin the francise ...im gonna be broke when the toys come out

That enough robots for you folks who were complaining that the last movie didn't have enough?

TheMuffin wrote:That enough robots for you folks who were complaining that the last movie didn't have enough?

as they say in one of the games on the price is right "THATS TO MUCH"!

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Although, how they have modern alt modes in an Egyptian hieroglyph is beyond me. That's why I'm not sure if Alienbot made this, or got it from the magazine.

Those are actual real-life hieroglypics with erosion that look like modern vehicles. See here:

http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

Wow, how interesting.

And holy smokes! 40 robots?!
Half of them are probably gonna last 2 seconds and get owned like Bonecrusher

Eh, you need canon fodder so the main ones don't get taken out.

TheMuffin wrote:Eh, you need canon fodder so the main ones don't get taken out.

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They should have done that in the 1st movie so we would still have Jazz

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I have a hunch Bay watched Armada. The Egyptian Hyrogliphics are of Transformers? Armada.
Jetfire combines with optimus? Armada.
Megs is a tank? Armada

YRQRM0 wrote:I have a hunch Bay watched Armada. The Egyptian Hyrogliphics are of Transformers? Armada.
Jetfire combines with optimus? Armada.
Megs is a tank? Armada

Megatron was a tank long before Aramada...

http://tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm

original sin wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I have a hunch Bay watched Armada. The Egyptian Hyrogliphics are of Transformers? Armada.
Jetfire combines with optimus? Armada.
Megs is a tank? Armada

Megatron was a tank long before Aramada...

http://tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm

That's only on the technicality that Megatron could no longer be a gun. Though why we couldn't turn him into something like G1 Galvatron or Shockwave in some turret/laser gun is beyond me.

YRQRM0 wrote:I have a hunch Bay watched Armada. The Egyptian Hyrogliphics are of Transformers? Armada.
Jetfire combines with optimus? Armada.
Megs is a tank? Armada

Ahh ok. More reasons for me to never finish Armada.

Baha08 wrote:

original sin wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I have a hunch Bay watched Armada. The Egyptian Hyrogliphics are of Transformers? Armada.
Jetfire combines with optimus? Armada.
Megs is a tank? Armada

Megatron was a tank long before Aramada...

http://tfu.info/1993/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm

That's only on the technicality that Megatron could no longer be a gun. Though why we couldn't turn him into something like G1 Galvatron or Shockwave in some turret/laser gun is beyond me.

A gun was a terrible idea to begin with!

Anyway, has anyone thought that when he says Megatron isn't in it, that maybe Galvatron is instead?

Naw I don't think Bay would think of that, I mean on a creative scale he did good but sometimes killing the main bad guy and not having him return in an old or even a new form is a dumb idea.

Though as long as they don't pull a Galactus or something, by having the new villain hide behind a CGI cloud.

And even more thinking that's why Spider-Man was a bad movie trilogy. I know in this day it's a matter of realism and kinda annoying to have the same villains coming back but the way those movies go it's like he won't have anyone to fight. Not to mention they pushed too much on the Green Goblin being the main villain/rival in all three movies.

If Megatron isn't in the new movie, and the tank is a new character, then how did we get this?

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/14783/

Yes, I know... it's a news item from this website. But still, that's a package made by Hasbro. Why would Hasbro give us a FAB Megatron, in a new tank mode, if he wasn't gonna show up? I can understand Bay's use of the misinformation stuff, trying to keep the movie secret and all, but I think he needs to research better, otherwise he might just look like an @$$...

Stryfe Convoy wrote:If Megatron isn't in the new movie, and the tank is a new character, then how did we get this?

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/14783/

Yes, I know... it's a news item from this website. But still, that's a package made by Hasbro. Why would Hasbro give us a FAB Megatron, in a new tank mode, if he wasn't gonna show up? I can understand Bay's use of the misinformation stuff, trying to keep the movie secret and all, but I think he needs to research better, otherwise he might just look like an @$$...

The same reason that we got FAB Ramjet and Voyager Thundercracker from the first movie line, to sell toys!!! It's all about the benjamins!!

Baha08 wrote:Naw I don't think Bay would think of that, I mean on a creative scale he did good but sometimes killing the main bad guy and not having him return in an old or even a new form is a dumb idea.

Bay didn't write the screenplay.

Drat, Giant Purple Griffin beat me to it.

-1 for not reading entire thread before replying.

The bit about the hieroglyphs was fascinating...thanks for the link Griffin. Always like to learn a little more about history...

40 bots? That's more than was in the original line release back in 1984! Awesome stuff!

No Megatron...bummer. I'd wager we see him revived though at the end of the movie just to lead to TF3.

An actual Fallen character huh? Interesting. Apocolyptic? That sounds more like Unicron than anything.

I'm hyped. Show me a teaser trailer and I'll be ready to rock.

i have a hunch, that the fallen character is going to be sort of unicron in a way.

This will most probably not be 100% true.
Empire is an awesome mag but they lied a bit in their last exclusive article on the first TF movie. In that article they stated Megatron transformed into a top secret concept stealth jet developed by the US Air Force. And we all know how that turned out.

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Although, how they have modern alt modes in an Egyptian hieroglyph is beyond me. That's why I'm not sure if Alienbot made this, or got it from the magazine.

Those are actual real-life hieroglypics with erosion that look like modern vehicles.

I'm sorry, but I have to speak on this subject.

If you think this is a 5000 year old typo, you haven't studied your ancient cultures thoroughly enough.

GPG, Why doesn't your article explain the extra lines and shapes seen connecting the eroded message to the message added later to create this illusion of modern tech?

Answer: Science is based on empirical evidence. There is no empirical evidence to support ancient tech. Therefore science must dictate that these inscriptions are an error of some sort. So they make something up that sounds logical.

I have been studying ancient cultures for over 15 years now. I have been to Giza, ABYDOS, Babylon, Lebanon, Jerusalem, and Mt. Sinai.

I have seen these things with my own eyes, I have spoke to experts with more time on the subject then I have been alive.

The gods were here, accomplished their mission [mostly], packed up shop and left [after inadvertently leveling the ancient nation of Sumer].

Read a Book, visit a museum, go on a trip... But don't trust the internet. Anyone can post anything on the internet without proofreading or fact checking.

Some similar info up on Fox News as well:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,474124,00.html

Stryfe Convoy wrote:If Megatron isn't in the new movie, and the tank is a new character, then how did we get this?

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ers/14783/

Yes, I know... it's a news item from this website. But still, that's a package made by Hasbro. Why would Hasbro give us a FAB Megatron, in a new tank mode, if he wasn't gonna show up? I can understand Bay's use of the misinformation stuff, trying to keep the movie secret and all, but I think he needs to research better, otherwise he might just look like an @$$...

the picture and artwork for the new megatron (as stated in the empire article) is that its an art sheet from hasbro, and that megatron himself will not actively appear in the second film, as the fallen will be the main enemy in the film (i had the leisure of reading the entrie article at the newsagents before buying it hehe) Hasbro want to give megatron a new incarnation to tie in with the second film, but not go down the route of "Megatron is now Galvatron", so I think its to give a different flavour other than the Cybertronian Jet that we were given in the first one, however only time wil tell if that is the case

Serpent O - R wrote:Science is based on empirical evidence. There is no empirical evidence to support ancient tech. Therefore science must dictate that these inscriptions are an error of some sort. So they make something up that sounds logical.

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The gods were here, accomplished their mission [mostly], packed up shop and left [after inadvertently leveling the ancient nation of Sumer].

Am I just being slow today? That's a joke, right?

On the subject of Megatron, if Hasbro wanted a new Megatron toy for the new line they'd most likely just repaint one of the old ones, rather than go to the expense of a new mould.

The only FABs we got last time around were of the main characters who featured in the movie, and repaints thereof. If Hasbro really wanted to put out an FAB Megatron toy they could just as easily have put out a repaint.

The fact that they've gone to the expense of making a new mould, and spent money on highly detailed concept artwork would seem to indicate that Bay might be telling porkies here.

"Megatron" could just be a red herring name for The Fallen to draw us off...

original sin wrote:A gun was a terrible idea to begin with!

but it led to a fantastic design.

hm its kind of strange sying that devastator is going to be about 50 feet tall, considering at a point in the article one of the crew members (or is it bay) mentions that the wheels on the constructicons are about the size of a full grown tree that they had on set... rather odd that one

5kywarp wrote:

original sin wrote:A gun was a terrible idea to begin with!

but it led to a fantastic design.

Buckethead???

Even Batmobile Megatron is cooler looking then that

Megatron will come back!! I feel it!! First, he did resurrect in the comics Defiance, then, with 40 robots I m sure they could at least have a spot for him either in flashbacks or with a tank mode, then Bay is simply full of shit and nobody trust a damn word he says, Orci said they would have more Starscream, Megatron moments reminiscing the G1, then with Soundwave in and Starscream it a shame not to have Megatron in cuz those 3 together ARE CLASSICS!!!! I may be wrong but I m sure Meg will come back.. I hope though