Super GT Optimus Prime Prototype Image and Official Website

President-prime wrote:Does anyone know the size of these things. Alternityis too small for my taste. Would seem appropriate for the price point that it's binaltech size. Then I'll be all over it! That prototype looks awesome

Rushie wrote:That image painfully reminds me of the dreaded Kiss Players

dragons wrote:ill wait to see better pictures of bot mode before i decide

Kibble wrote:

dragons wrote:ill wait to see better pictures of bot mode before i decide

Isn't the bot mode more or less the same as the other Alternity Prime figs? The head might be a little different and there's spoiler kibble on the legs, but otherwise it's pretty much the same, no?

Manterax Prime wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Kiss Players?

Swindle01 wrote:also remember in Japan a girl can legially have sex at the age of 13 if she wishes. I think thats why the kiss player girls looked so seriously young.....

kirbenvost wrote:I would be interested in Star Saber, but not for that price. I'd rather wait for a Masterpiece...as if it would ever happen.

Manterax Prime wrote:More Kiss Players please, Takara!

President-prime wrote:@Overcracker. Just a hopeful question. Why the sarcasm? I can see that but was curious, since Alternityis is about 50, and these things are 115 (price wise). Wanted to see if they're worth spending double the money. Besides, I've never opened mine so don't really know what it looked like, ther then web images. And the proto image looks bulkier and bigger

Overcracker wrote:However underneath all that they are still Alternity Convoys.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

Overcracker wrote:However underneath all that they are still Alternity Convoys.

And why should that matter? I mean after Takara put out Fortress Maximus, they also made Grand Maximus and Brave Maximus. Any fan could dismiss them and just say they are Fortress Maximus with added changes. But they do not. And we do not dismiss any of the original figures (as well as Raiden and others) because they were originally Diaclone and Microman toys. And how many people today complain about that, or even dismiss them with the samelevel of logic you are using to dismiss this line?

Point being is that the nearly 30 year history of Transformers, the Alternity/GT connection is just them continuing tradition and it should not matter. What should matter is how the final product looks, and how the story behind this line plays out. (Because with me, I am getting Star Saber at least. And for the same reason why I bought "Alternity" Dai Atlas.)

Overcracker wrote:Who's dismissing anything? I'm stating a fact. I never said they were worth less, or less desirable. Its just a fact. They are alternity Convoys in a new line. Some may like them some may not. The entire point of this was expecting something different out of a mold we've already seen, and know about.

In your own reference, it would be like expecting Brave Maximus or Grand Maximus to be 6 inches tall instead of 24.

Nobody here is saying they are bad, or less of a figure or anything. They simply are what they are.

RhA wrote:An entire toyline, based on three molds. Just wow.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

RhA wrote:An entire toyline, based on three molds. Just wow.

Seems like two are currently confirmed. And we can guess that more are on the way.

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I am hoping that is the case since we now need a Ginrai to be added.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Who's dismissing anything? I'm stating a fact. I never said they were worth less, or less desirable. Its just a fact. They are alternity Convoys in a new line. Some may like them some may not. The entire point of this was expecting something different out of a mold we've already seen, and know about.

In your own reference, it would be like expecting Brave Maximus or Grand Maximus to be 6 inches tall instead of 24.

Nobody here is saying they are bad, or less of a figure or anything. They simply are what they are.

Never assumed any of that. And I never implied that. So let me make my point be clear.

So I'll simplify so there is nothing for you to assume, as assumptions are worthless: The transformation mode is Alternity. The authenticity of the cars are not what increased the price because they are collaborating with Super GT Racing. They never stated the scaling, which means that the final product may have the previous kinks fixed and also have these at a slightly larger scale. And calling these Alternity is like calling all three Maximus toys, "Fortress Maximus with different paint jobs."

And for the other part you missed: Transformers are mostly Diaclone and Microman toys, but nobody cares. Those who do care still own both and admire the differences they have. In the end, all we have are two of the three being finalized - And one of the three possibly having changes made. But until we have a final product at hand, it is better to speculate and hope instead of assume and dismiss.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
Never assumed any of that. And I never implied that. So let me make my point be clear.

So I'll simplify so there is nothing for you to assume, as assumptions are worthless: The transformation mode is Alternity. The authenticity of the cars are not what increased the price because they are collaborating with Super GT Racing. They never stated the scaling, which means that the final product may have the previous kinks fixed and also have these at a slightly larger scale. And calling these Alternity is like calling all three Maximus toys, "Fortress Maximus with different paint jobs."

And for the other part you missed: Transformers are mostly Diaclone and Microman toys, but nobody cares. Those who do care still own both and admire the differences they have. In the end, all we have are two of the three being finalized - And one of the three possibly having changes made. But until we have a final product at hand, it is better to speculate and hope instead of assume and dismiss.

Blurrz wrote:You need step down a peg here. Just because someone has an opinion differing from yours does not mean you need to start taking personal offense. This isn't the first time you've done this. I'd take fellow collectors words for it, that they know what they're talking about. Because honestly, if you think Takara's going to revamp these molds and upscale them - well that's more wishful thinking then actually assessing what HasTak does with their molds.

By all means on a random whim, maybe Takara does upsize the mold, but there's nothing leaning towards them doing that. The people you've been arguing with over the past few weeks don't just have collections that number in the hundreds, but in the thousands. They've experienced these toys in their hands and have seen the quality and development of the Transformers in nearly three decades, all in person. It`s more than just looking at pictures and TFwiki that leads to expertise in this field. [/color]