Sword for Takara Transformers Legends LG 31 Fortress Maximus Revealed and Comparisons with SDCC Toy
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Below you can see the SDCC 2016 version on the left and the Takara Legends version on the right
SDCC 2016 Fort Max and Sword
This item can still be ordered from Hasbro Toy Shop for $179.99.
Hasbro Asia Sword
This sword is the only one which is translucent.
So, for those who want a Fortress Maxmus with a sword, is the Takara one still worth the extra importing costs (bringing the figure to about $230 from importers) over getting the SDCC 2016 version which is $50 less for American fans?
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Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2016 @ 8:38am CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 19th, 2016 @ 8:40am CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 19th, 2016 @ 8:49am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2016 @ 1:42pm CDT
But... it's Takara's Fort Max that has the most toy-accurate deco. About the only thing the Hasbro retail and SDCC Fort Maxes have over the Takara one in terms of toy-accuracy is the green shoulder window instead of Takara's blue shoulder window.william-james88 wrote:It seems like if someone wants to get the best hmage to the original toy, they should just get the SDCC version with the Hasbro asia sword.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 19th, 2016 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But... it's Takara's Fort Max that has the most toy-accurate deco. About the only thing the Hasbro retail and SDCC Fort Maxes have over the Takara one in terms of toy-accuracy is the green shoulder window instead of Takara's blue shoulder window.william-james88 wrote:It seems like if someone wants to get the best hmage to the original toy, they should just get the SDCC version with the Hasbro asia sword.
I disagree, the toy doesnt have white on the shoulders and the sdes are grey ather than white, no?
Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2016 @ 2:22pm CDT
That Bot wrote:The pictures above demonstrate that the differences between SDCC and Takara Fort Max are fairly minor, so with the price+shipping factored in, SDCC is easier to swallow for a lot of people.
Yeah, thats what I was tryign to get across in the article, since people may not think of getting the SDCC version ad just think Takara vs Hasbro. For the price the sword commands online, the SDCC version is really not a bad deal at all.
Posted by Tigertrack on August 19th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on August 19th, 2016 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by LE0KING on August 19th, 2016 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 19th, 2016 @ 3:40pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Posted by LE0KING on August 19th, 2016 @ 3:55pm CDT
Kurona wrote:LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2016 @ 5:31pm CDT
The white paint on the shoulders of Takara's Fort Max is meant to emulate the silver stickers that were on the original Fort Max's shoulders, which were represented in the Japanese cartoon (when his animation model was colored properly) by white triangles:william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But... it's Takara's Fort Max that has the most toy-accurate deco. About the only thing the Hasbro retail and SDCC Fort Maxes have over the Takara one in terms of toy-accuracy is the green shoulder window instead of Takara's blue shoulder window.william-james88 wrote:It seems like if someone wants to get the best hmage to the original toy, they should just get the SDCC version with the Hasbro asia sword.
I disagree, the toy doesnt have white on the shoulders and the sdes are grey ather than white, no?
But rather than just paint white triangles arbitrarily, Takara opted to adhere to the molded details on the shoulders (or once) and painted the white parts of the shoulders in accordance to said details.
Hasbro's leaving the shoulders mostly all blue on their versions looks more like how the G1 toy's shoulders were when unstickered, lacking in the sticker detail:
Posted by Kurona on August 19th, 2016 @ 5:47pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
I want that fort max to start an idw titan graveyard
Posted by galvatron00 on August 19th, 2016 @ 6:29pm CDT
The major factor behind me getting the Takara release over the SDCC one has always been the audio that is coming with it. From what I've heard the original voice actor for Fortress is recording lines, AND a clip of the theme song will be in there!!LE0KING wrote:Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.Kurona wrote:Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
The BIGGEST factor was that I was able to lock in a super cheap price. Ends up being the same as the SDCC one after taxes (it shipped free from HTS). Those days have long since passed though. All the pre-orders now are much higher than they were.
And for the record I don't eat Ramen, I eat Yakisoba
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 19th, 2016 @ 7:46pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:Kurona wrote:LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
Some people here are rich. I have read people stating (true or not) about buying all kids of large amounts of 3rd party combiners, and other expensive stuff, even though they've got a house, kids, a partner and other expenses.
I can;t even afford a car, have no kids and have a reasonably paid job, but I still can;t afford half the stuff people buy here.
However, as I do live in Japan, I can get Fort Max and most Japanese TFs cheaper than most people (usually via Amazon Japan pre-order and sometimes at the wholesale price, but alas not this time).
Living here also gives me access to cheap ramen, yakisoba, sushi and hot Japanese girls and women.
But that, as they say, is another lawsuit/moderator comment/perma-ban...
Posted by fenrir72 on August 19th, 2016 @ 11:42pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:LE0KING wrote:Kurona wrote:LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
Some people here are rich. I have read people stating (true or not) about buying all kids of large amounts of 3rd party combiners, and other expensive stuff, even though they've got a house, kids, a partner and other expenses.
I can;t even afford a car, have no kids and have a reasonably paid job, but I still can;t afford half the stuff people buy here.
However, as I do live in Japan, I can get Fort Max and most Japanese TFs cheaper than most people (usually via Amazon Japan pre-order and sometimes at the wholesale price, but alas not this time).
Living here also gives me access to cheap ramen, yakisoba, sushi and hot Japanese girls and women.
But that, as they say, is another lawsuit/moderator comment/perma-ban...
Same here. At times it isn't the matter of choice but availability. In my case, I have no choice but a willing choice to get the JP version as the pricing between the SDCC version or Hb and their availability is next to nil.
And Leoking, stereotyping tends to limit your view of the broader scope of things. You don't have to believe everything what some members here type about their purchasing habits. As they say, even in journalism, only about 50% reported is actually truth, the rest are a figment of their creative imaginations.
The proof is that some might rant against the price of import TFs yet will purchase all sorts of figure lines other than TFs. It's like what? Why not just focus on a single line and save on the cash for more import TFs etc etc etc
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 20th, 2016 @ 6:37am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:LE0KING wrote:Kurona wrote:LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
Some people here are rich. I have read people stating (true or not) about buying all kids of large amounts of 3rd party combiners, and other expensive stuff, even though they've got a house, kids, a partner and other expenses.
I can;t even afford a car, have no kids and have a reasonably paid job, but I still can;t afford half the stuff people buy here.
However, as I do live in Japan, I can get Fort Max and most Japanese TFs cheaper than most people (usually via Amazon Japan pre-order and sometimes at the wholesale price, but alas not this time).
Living here also gives me access to cheap ramen, yakisoba, sushi and hot Japanese girls and women.
But that, as they say, is another lawsuit/moderator comment/perma-ban...
Same here. At times it isn't the matter of choice but availability. In my case, I have no choice but a willing choice to get the JP version as the pricing between the SDCC version or Hb and their availability is next to nil.
And Leoking, stereotyping tends to limit your view of the broader scope of things. You don't have to believe everything what some members here type about their purchasing habits. As they say, even in journalism, only about 50% reported is actually truth, the rest are a figment of their creative imaginations.
The proof is that some might rant against the price of import TFs yet will purchase all sorts of figure lines other than TFs. It's like what? Why not just focus on a single line and save on the cash for more import TFs etc etc etc
That's right. Also, it might just be someone's only purchase for the year, out a work bonus, etc. It's silly to compare purchases with other people as we don't know anyone's circumstances.
Posted by Agamemnon on August 20th, 2016 @ 10:18am CDT
But, ultimately, some of us are just 8-year-olds in forty something bodies having that disposable income. I choose to buy some expensive toys (including 3P) instead of smoking or attending sporting events. But I would, in no way, consider myself rich. These sorts of things do help me choose what I buy, but also where my career goes.
And now, I realize I just said that wanting to buy Legends Skullcruncher to go with my E-Hobby Batimus Prime is one of my motivations to do well in the IT industry...
Posted by Kurona on August 20th, 2016 @ 10:29am CDT
Agamemnon wrote:And now, I realize I just said that wanting to buy Legends Skullcruncher to go with my E-Hobby Batimus Prime is one of my motivations to do well in the IT industry...
I must admit, when I was jobhunting earlier this year; I kept saying to myself "think of Bruticus... think of Bruticus"
Posted by dragons on August 20th, 2016 @ 9:37pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:It's official, Takara is the best release of the mold.
Nice figure yes but if I get it be hasbro version cheaper extra detail don't do it for it me and I know there will be company to exciting third party master sword to make it compatible with this version with in time
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 21st, 2016 @ 12:02am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 21st, 2016 @ 12:13am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is there anymore remolding to Legends Fortress Maximus? The head looks different.
Only Cerebros' head/Emissary's back has been retooled between Hasbro retail and SDCC/TT Legends. The rest is all different deco and plastic color placements.
Posted by Tigertrack on August 21st, 2016 @ 6:32am CDT
dragons wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:It's official, Takara is the best release of the mold.
Nice figure yes but if I get it be hasbro version cheaper extra detail don't do it for it me and I know there will be company to exciting third party master sword to make it compatible with this version with in time
Perfect Effect has a really fabulous one. I bought for my HASBRO version. It is really heavy though!
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2016 @ 6:37pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Agamemnon wrote:And now, I realize I just said that wanting to buy Legends Skullcruncher to go with my E-Hobby Batimus Prime is one of my motivations to do well in the IT industry...
I must admit, when I was jobhunting earlier this year; I kept saying to myself "think of Bruticus... think of Bruticus"
I dread(?) the day Fortmax comes as I also preordered the rest of the Hm pack.I'll be Scooby snacks for some time effective October ........
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2016 @ 9:00pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:LE0KING wrote:Kurona wrote:LE0KING wrote:Maybe it's because I'm not a G-1er, but I don't understand why people are willing to spend an additional $50+ for a plastic toy sword.
Welcome to the Transformers fandom. You must be new around here.
Ha ha, but seriously though, do you guys only eat ramen noodles, or have I been chatting it up with millionaires this whole time.
I almost got the sdcc version from hts but after shipping and taxes it was alittle over 200 bucks. So I got the basic hasbro one instead.
Some people here are rich. I have read people stating (true or not) about buying all kids of large amounts of 3rd party combiners, and other expensive stuff, even though they've got a house, kids, a partner and other expenses.
I can;t even afford a car, have no kids and have a reasonably paid job, but I still can;t afford half the stuff people buy here.
However, as I do live in Japan, I can get Fort Max and most Japanese TFs cheaper than most people (usually via Amazon Japan pre-order and sometimes at the wholesale price, but alas not this time).
Living here also gives me access to cheap ramen, yakisoba, sushi and hot Japanese girls and women.
But that, as they say, is another lawsuit/moderator comment/perma-ban...
Same here. At times it isn't the matter of choice but availability. In my case, I have no choice but a willing choice to get the JP version as the pricing between the SDCC version or Hb and their availability is next to nil.
And Leoking, stereotyping tends to limit your view of the broader scope of things. You don't have to believe everything what some members here type about their purchasing habits. As they say, even in journalism, only about 50% reported is actually truth, the rest are a figment of their creative imaginations.
The proof is that some might rant against the price of import TFs yet will purchase all sorts of figure lines other than TFs. It's like what? Why not just focus on a single line and save on the cash for more import TFs etc etc etc
That's right. Also, it might just be someone's only purchase for the year, out a work bonus, etc. It's silly to compare purchases with other people as we don't know anyone's circumstances.
In bold, that being the case, they shouldn't be raining on other people's parade then.
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 21st, 2016 @ 11:00pm CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on August 22nd, 2016 @ 7:01am CDT
Also, Takara, you can do it!
Posted by Hero Alpha on August 22nd, 2016 @ 11:24am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:I need the other five Headmasters, like yesterday.
Also, Takara, you can do it!
Yes please, somebody, anybody, Apeface is one of, if not, my fav Decepticon since I was a kid. All I have left of my original is his shield/wing lol.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 22nd, 2016 @ 11:43am CDT
Just too many factors against Titan Master Class figures getting bodies of their own.
Posted by Kurona on August 22nd, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 23rd, 2016 @ 1:36pm CDT
Posted by Railbomb on August 23rd, 2016 @ 2:39pm CDT
Posted by Apocdave on August 23rd, 2016 @ 4:14pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2016 @ 4:36pm CDT
Japanese Fort Max had different box art depicting him wielding his sword instead of a gun. And his Japanese fiction portrayals never had him using his toy's guns, as he was strictly a sword-wielding bot in Japan.Railbomb wrote:You know, thinking about it now I'm surprised Takara didn't give him a large rifle-type thing like he had originally and is actually on the U.S. box art.
Posted by Railbomb on August 23rd, 2016 @ 5:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Japanese Fort Max had different box art depicting him wielding his sword instead of a gun. And his Japanese fiction portrayals never had him using his toy's guns, as he was strictly a sword-wielding bot in Japan.Railbomb wrote:You know, thinking about it now I'm surprised Takara didn't give him a large rifle-type thing like he had originally and is actually on the U.S. box art.
I was talking about the TR Fort max box art, I know he has the sword on the ol' Headmasters box art but I didn't know that he never actually used his guns in the show. I really should get that Japanese G1 anime box set that they have out one of these day.
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 23rd, 2016 @ 6:07pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2016 @ 6:14pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 23rd, 2016 @ 6:29pm CDT
Kurona wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
*Still wishes it had come with treads....
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2016 @ 6:48pm CDT
Not to mention that Takara are treating the Titan as a new ship/body for Fortress, so in that regard it doesn't have to be too close to the original.Kurona wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
Posted by fenrir72 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 8:05pm CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on August 23rd, 2016 @ 8:07pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Who is the red robot in the second image. Fortress comes with a gun? (Fortress as in the transformed head not the super mode)
Wheelie. And the gun is the turret inside the clear-blue chest compartment...thing.
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 8:14pm CDT
Kurona wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
They retooled Devastator and he was a titan.
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2016 @ 8:21pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
They retooled Devastator and he was a titan.
Right, but he came in parts and was a considerably smaller titan, right? They were essentially just retooling some voyagers.
In any case though they probably could have done some minor retooling - heck, if you want to count it I guess giving him different sounds is retooling. I think? I dunno. But I don't think they could've done anything as major as ramps and extra guns.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 23rd, 2016 @ 9:19pm CDT
Legends Max looks nice, but I think I'll just get the US version this time around. A modestly different deco on a guy I have no attachment to isn't worth the extra dough to me.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2016 @ 9:29pm CDT
The little Headmaster is retooled.That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 23rd, 2016 @ 10:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The little Headmaster is retooled.That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.
I am aware that Takara gave him a Fortress head instead of a Cerebros head, but that is separate from the specific suggestion that altering the sound box qualified as a retooling.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2016 @ 10:18pm CDT
Who said the sound box's noises being different qualified as a retool?That Bot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The little Headmaster is retooled.That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.
I am aware that Takara gave him a Fortress head instead of a Cerebros head, but that is separate from the specific suggestion that altering the sound box qualified as a retooling.
Posted by Agamemnon on August 23rd, 2016 @ 10:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Who said the sound box's noises being different qualified as a retool?That Bot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The little Headmaster is retooled.That Bot wrote:Changing a sound box does nothing to the tooling of the mold, ergo it is by definition not a retool.
I am aware that Takara gave him a Fortress head instead of a Cerebros head, but that is separate from the specific suggestion that altering the sound box qualified as a retooling.
Last post of the previous page:
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Given all the discussion over Takara's remolding on the Technobots, it's a little strange they didn't do more to fix Fort Max. The sword is nice, but there's a lot of flaws a little extra work could've fixed. Ramps that went all the way to the ground, extra guns to complete the battle station mode, wheels...
Well... there's a big difference between retooling a voyager and some deluxes and retooling a titan
They retooled Devastator and he was a titan.
Right, but he came in parts and was a considerably smaller titan, right? They were essentially just retooling some voyagers.
In any case though they probably could have done some minor retooling - heck, if you want to count it I guess giving him different sounds is retooling. I think? I dunno. But I don't think they could've done anything as major as ramps and extra guns.
Bold my emphasis. And I think this was answered.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 23rd, 2016 @ 11:14pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Who is the red robot in the second image. Fortress comes with a gun? (Fortress as in the transformed head not the super mode)
Wheelie. And the gun is the turret inside the clear-blue chest compartment...thing.
Thanks.