Takara TAV62 Deluxe Starscream Revealed for Transformers Adventure Line along with TAV 61 God Optimus Prime
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TAV61 God Optimus Prime has also been revealed. It is a redeco of TAV50 and has a very similar deco to the Hasbro version of this mold known as Power Surge Optimus Prime. He also comes with three minicons, it seems, including a clear version of Weapon minicon Dragonus and Tricerashot. Comparison images can also be found below. Let us know if these are worth the import, especially at the higher exchange rate. They are currently available for preorder at Takaratomymall for ¥2,700 ($27) and ¥9,720 ($97) respectively and coming out November 12th 2016.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:01pm CDT
(especially since habsro's has all those additional 'energy' paint apps) you could buy the hasbro release and paint it up yourself for a sliver of the price
Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:11pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?
Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?
Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).
Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? Maybe they'll order enough to cover pre-orders, but, I mean, I've seen it, held it, and it is just no where near worth $100 + shipping
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:23pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?
Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).
Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? I've seen it, held it, and it is just garbage
Oh I know, I just wanted to give some info, hope you didnt mind. I would also be very curious who in Japan would pay that amount. Most japanese retailers dont use the MSRP and sell him for 60$ instead which is the same price point that mold goes for in Canada.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:30pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:35pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Oh I know, I just wanted to give some info, hope you didnt mind. I would also be very curious who in Japan would pay that amount. Most japanese retailers dont use the MSRP and sell him for 60$ instead which is the same price point that mold goes for in Canada.
Naw, it's all good, love to hear about stuff like that
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:36pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise
They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:41pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise
They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...
But it's those little details that are really sticking out there for me
Posted by Sabrblade on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT
Takara's version has white on its arms, the wings seem to be more translucent, the arm fins have their deco inverted, the sides of the robot mode torso are gray instead of red, colored wheel rims, dark blue hands instead of gray hands, Aerobolt is more extensively painted, gray circles on the shoulders, white truck sides instead of red, and maybe more differences.Hellscream9999 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise
They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...
Posted by Counterpunch on September 29th, 2016 @ 3:58pm CDT
Let's pretend the Minicons cost $100 and the Prime is a bonus figure.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 29th, 2016 @ 6:43pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Brutal.
Let's pretend the Minicons cost $100 and the Prime is a bonus figure.
Speaking of which, I think that it should be mentioned in the news story that the o/p mold comes with the first tav release of the weaponizer dragonus and tricerashot, and may - ironically - be the among the easiest ways people in the US could get those figures
Posted by SureShot18 on September 29th, 2016 @ 7:43pm CDT
Starscream- https://hlj.com/product/tkt86291?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Prime- https://hlj.com/product/tkt87523?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 30th, 2016 @ 12:58am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?
Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).
Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? Maybe they'll order enough to cover pre-orders, but, I mean, I've seen it, held it, and it is just no where near worth $100 + shipping
Is there some retooling on the figure as well, new shoulder cannons or is it just the pic? I never realized you could peg minicons on the sword, nice.
Posted by Va'al on September 30th, 2016 @ 4:58am CDT
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Posted by william-james88 on September 30th, 2016 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 30th, 2016 @ 5:09pm CDT
They look gray to me in that pic.william-james88 wrote:Arent the top of Starscream's shoulders supposed to be blue?
Keep in mind that whole image is blue-tinted given it's from a recording of a recording, so everything in it has a blue hue to it.
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 2:47pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Nemesis Prime is a fantastic repaint of the Clash of the Transformers, Power Surge Optimus Prime, itself a retool of the Warrior Class Optimus Prime figure. The black and silver pops on the figure thanks to the teal highlights. The mold features a great cross play pattern with the weapons. If you can only get one, either US version is great, but if you can get two, Nemesis Prime is worth the price.
Posted by RAR on October 5th, 2016 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 4:15pm CDT
RAR wrote:I sort of wish he'd had a red blade on his axe - what colour was the axe on the previous one ?
Exactly that, a red blade:
I gues they wanted to give a different weapon colour than before since it would be the same weapon again
Posted by RAR on October 6th, 2016 @ 2:27pm CDT
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Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2016 @ 2:50pm CDT
Microraptor wrote:I dearly hope this gets repurposed as SG Longrack.
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2016 @ 8:13am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 15th, 2016 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 15th, 2016 @ 11:07am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Weird how they changed Paralon's name to the name of his group. I guess it was a part of a mistranslation in the Japanese think that Paralon being called "a scavenger" referred to his name instead of what kind of person he is. Hope they don't make the same mistake with the rest of his group should more of them besides Scatterspike get Adventure toys.
On a hunch I decided to Google パラロン pararon and I'm getting some interesting results, like one relating to a Multi-Sport event called パラロン・パンバンサpararon panbansa and 全国パラロン・ケミアスルーフ防水工事業協同組合 zenkoku pararon kemiasurūfu bōsui kōji-gyō kyōdō kumiai, a roofing contractor company. Trademarks shouldn't be that much of a problem since they're not in Toys & Games, but still... Most results referred to our Paralon though, from blogs who got the US version first.
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 3:02pm CDT
Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 15th, 2016 @ 3:22pm CDT
Kurona wrote:This makes me kinda sad.
Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!
TAV30 Battle Grimlock, TAV31 Black Shadow, TAV32 Rumble & Frenzy, and TAV VS-SP Dogfight vs. Decepticon Runamuck were the last ones, huh? I guess the line no longer needed bolstering, and the Legends Class figures now have a place in Legends.
For what it's worth, it did cut down the list of unused toolings to this:
- Gears
- Huffer
- Chop Shop
- Windcharger
- Warpath
- Wreck-Gar
- Goldfire
- Dreadwing
- Jhiaxus
- Crosscut
- Starscream (Leader)
Posted by Kurona on October 15th, 2016 @ 3:27pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kurona wrote:This makes me kinda sad.
Like, they haven't randomly borrowed a toy from another toyline like Generations Skrapnel or Animated Swoop since Wave 8. C'mon Takara, that was half the fun of this!
TAV30 Battle Grimlock, TAV31 Black Shadow, TAV32 Rumble & Frenzy, and TAV VS-SP Dogfight vs. Decepticon Runamuck were the last ones, huh? I guess the line no longer needed bolstering, and the Legends Class figures now have a place in Legends.
For what it's worth, it did cut down the list of unused toolings to this:
- Gears
- Huffer
- Chop Shop
- Windcharger
- Warpath
- Wreck-Gar
- Goldfire
- Dreadwing
- Jhiaxus
- Crosscut
- Starscream (Leader)
A lot of those make sense to me; but I'm surprised they didn't go for Gears, Windcharger and Crosscut since those are retools that happened with the original toys too. Then again, they've only just released Skids recently, so maybe we'll see Crosscut from them soon?
Posted by ScottyP on October 16th, 2016 @ 8:03pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 16th, 2016 @ 8:26pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Something about organizing Takara products into "waves" makes me twitchy. They release stuff each month, on a somewhat consistent day. That is, generally speaking, not how the "wave" distribution model works.
Well... since October 2015 then.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 17th, 2016 @ 1:10am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 17th, 2016 @ 9:32am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:That TRU Prime is nice, but not $45 US nice. Here's a look at the Takara Windblade, overall a better figure, but I was surprised Hasbro went further with the sword.
That TRU prime is only expensive because BBTs hadto buy it off someone who bought it at TRU in japan. The price is more represetative of their hassel to get it than what the toy is actually worth.
Also what do you mean hasbro went further with the sword, they just left is all in black:
It you are comparing it to the SDCC exclusive, then I dont get the point since they are totally different versions and one is a premium exclusive being compared to a standard retail takara release. The only fair comparison to make is with the actual Hasbro Warrior toy whichw as also a standard retail release.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 21st, 2016 @ 12:04am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 21st, 2016 @ 12:22am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 21st, 2016 @ 1:21am CDT
Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Posted by Kurona on October 21st, 2016 @ 1:32am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 21st, 2016 @ 2:17am CDT
Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.
Or would you?
Posted by Kurona on October 21st, 2016 @ 2:32am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.
Or would you?
Well... no. Because the Takara version is about as different a colour scheme as you can get from the SDCC Windblade.
All I'm saying is that if you're doing a direct comparison like this, then you should compare two figures who are trying to achieve the same thing. You'd get Adventure Windblade for a representation of her in the show, or for some people, as a representation of her in the comics as it works for that purpose as well. The RiD 2015 version of the mold tries to achieve the same thing, hence why the comparison is apt. This isn't the reason you'd get the SDCC version - you'd get the SDCC version because it came with that Brainstorm you really wanted because you want a radically different version of the mold in different colours that might appeal to you better than her actual colours. Not because it's an accurate representation of Windblade in media.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 21st, 2016 @ 2:34am CDT
Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Kurona wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
But... they're not going for the same thing. If someone wants a Windblade accurate to the show - or, for that matter, the comics - they're certainly not going to get the SDCC version. It's a bit like saying "Well, I know some of you are on the fence on which version of Starscream to get; Hasbro or Takara... so to compare to Takara's Starscream, here's Hasbro's Thundercracker".
I get where you're coming from, but the two figures are trying to accomplish two very different things.
But I'm talking about the swords, and that if Hasbro wanted to they could've done something really nice for RID Windblade. Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Probably the fact this is a Generations boxset rather than an RiD one. And also that it's an SDCC exclusive which is most certainly not marketed towards children hence would make no sense to put on the show.
But on the small chance she does, that's when it'd be relevant; not now. And even then the comparison still wouldn't be apt, because if you wanted a representation of those colours, you certainly wouldn't go Takara.
Or would you?
Well... no. Because the Takara version is about as different a colour scheme as you can get from the SDCC Windblade.
All I'm saying is that if you're doing a direct comparison like this, then you should compare two figures who are trying to achieve the same thing. You'd get Adventure Windblade for a representation of her in the show, or for some people, as a representation of her in the comics as it works for that purpose as well. The RiD 2015 version of the mold tries to achieve the same thing, hence why the comparison is apt. This isn't the reason you'd get the SDCC version - you'd get the SDCC version because it came with that Brainstorm you really wanted because you want a radically different version of the mold in different colours that might appeal to you better than her actual colours. Not because it's an accurate representation of Windblade in media.
Uh no, you were right the first time. I got the set for Brainstorm. Let's not kid ourselves, lol
Posted by william-james88 on October 21st, 2016 @ 8:49am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 21st, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
Because "season whateverthey'recallingitnow" just ended (in Canada) with a mere six episodes and she wasn't in any of them, let alone in the SDCC Windblade's Fortress Maximus-based deco (yes, that's who the SDCC figure's colors are based on).chuckdawg1999 wrote:Also, who says that Windblade isn't going to show up in season whateverthey'recallingitnow of RID in those colors?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on October 21st, 2016 @ 2:09pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.
Makes perfect sense to me, besides the big difference between the Takara and Hasbro version of Windblade is the amount of black detailing. Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much
Posted by Kurona on October 21st, 2016 @ 2:15pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I am since that's the version in the video, and I feel it's a fair comparison since the SDCC version and the Takara version go for roughly the same amount.
That makes no damn sense Chuck, and you know it. That SDCC windblade can only be officialy purchased in a box set and you only have it because you wanted the Brainstorm, showing how unlikely it is that someone seeks out that version of Windblade when contemplating whether to get it insead of the Takara version.
If you want your videos to be as useful as possible, compare the Takara version to the actual Hasbro version of that deco. That's what people are actually curious about. This is like comparing UW Bruticus to a combiner from FunPub, no one is thinking of either gettign one or the other.
Makes perfect sense to me, besides the big difference between the Takara and Hasbro version of Windblade is the amount of black detailing. Funny thing, Hasbro Windblade is roughly going for the same amount as the SDCC version, no way I'm paying that much
Definitely don't pay that much. When you have the Takara version there's literally no reason; the RiD version of the mold is the worst.