Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-32 Optimus Primal On Display

What on earth is that non-transforming gorilla doing there?

shajaki wrote:What on earth is that non-transforming gorilla doing there?

Reference model?

Dr Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:What on earth is that non-transforming gorilla doing there?

Reference model?

It seems to be an unpainted version of what was shown one year ago:

william-james88 wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:What on earth is that non-transforming gorilla doing there?

Reference model?

It seems to be an unpainted version of what was shown one year ago:

Immediately what my mind jumped to, but I thought (nay, hoped even) that it was a new accessory. But an entire figure as an additional accessory is quite an addition

shajaki wrote:What on earth is that non-transforming gorilla doing there?

Reminds me of this big plastic King Kong piggybank I had as a kid. And looks almost as articulated.

Aren't these figures supposed to be called "masterpiece"? Why are we're getting faces of robots and gorilla apart from the toy itself. Couldn't they just incorporporate those faces into the actual toy. I hate "losing faces!" They could just do something like the Generation and animated Blitzwing, or Masters of the universe man e faces. And don't tell me it's cost. It's not like the toys are $30. It's a masterpiece! It's supposed to be the definitive version of that character.

President-prime wrote:Aren't these figures supposed to be called "masterpiece"? Why are we're getting faces of robots and gorilla apart from the toy itself. Couldn't they just incorporporate those faces into the actual toy. I hate "losing faces!" They could just do something like the Generation and animated Blitzwing, or Masters of the universe man e faces. And don't tell me it's cost. It's not like the toys are $30. It's a masterpiece! It's supposed to be the definitive version of that character.

So... because he can't store the extra faces, he's not the definitive version?

Currently, I'm still ok with my decision to cancel my pre-order.. it WOULD be cool if you could store the extra faces, like MP Magnus! At least one extra face storage would be neat.

That's what the box is for. For MP, the look and style of the character is much more important than having a bulge to store five faces.

@shajaki. Is that a rhetorical question? To me, he's not!

President-prime wrote:Aren't these figures supposed to be called "masterpiece"? Why are we're getting faces of robots and gorilla apart from the toy itself. Couldn't they just incorporporate those faces into the actual toy. I hate "losing faces!" They could just do something like the Generation and animated Blitzwing, or Masters of the universe man e faces. And don't tell me it's cost. It's not like the toys are $30. It's a masterpiece! It's supposed to be the definitive version of that character.

I think that because they are marketting these to adults, they probably think that these will be treated with care and trust us not to lose them like what we used to do with small parts when we were kids.

For what it is, it actually looks pretty cool.
And yet, I still have zero desire to have it in my collection.

Thank you for response and non offensive comment. Like people not liking backpacks or bits and pieces of car parts visible on the robot, I prefer my figures fully in tact. Personally, I feel that figures where we need to switch parts or extra this and that other than weapons and additional accessories are not definitive. figures are creeping up to the hundreds now. How hard is it to create a face where it could be flipped out. But that's just me. You guys can disagree.

President-prime wrote:Thank you for response and non offensive comment. Like people not liking backpacks or bits and pieces of car parts visible on the robot, I prefer my figures fully in tact. Personally, I feel that figures where we need to switch parts or extra this and that other than weapons and additional accessories are not definitive. figures are creeping up to the hundreds now. How hard is it to create a face where it could be flipped out. But that's just me. You guys can disagree.

Of course, I understand, but I dont think Takara is thinking the same way you are with this line and what the title means. This looks a lot like they are trying to imitate the Hot Toys or Mesco which are about being the most definitive version of a character. And part of that means that they are customisable to imitate every situation you may want to pose them in on a shelf. So these are more like extras catering to hardcore fans rather than pieces they find integral to the actual toy.
I really think this is just a difference in understanding of the point of the line. You arent the only one, many fans find their strictness to the cartoon to be the line's current flaw.

Here is an idea of what they are imitating in their approach to this line:

He is still a badass looking figure

President-prime wrote:Thank you for response and non offensive comment. Like people not liking backpacks or bits and pieces of car parts visible on the robot, I prefer my figures fully in tact. Personally, I feel that figures where we need to switch parts or extra this and that other than weapons and additional accessories are not definitive. figures are creeping up to the hundreds now. How hard is it to create a face where it could be flipped out. But that's just me. You guys can disagree.

Parts switching seems to be more economical. Extra mechanisms on such a small figure might break the bank for a certain project to be green lit. Been done for sometime even for higher end figures like SoC, figma etc.

Oh and don't be afraid to break the mold with your posts. We all have our own preferences.

fenrir72 wrote:

President-prime wrote:Thank you for response and non offensive comment. Like people not liking backpacks or bits and pieces of car parts visible on the robot, I prefer my figures fully in tact. Personally, I feel that figures where we need to switch parts or extra this and that other than weapons and additional accessories are not definitive. figures are creeping up to the hundreds now. How hard is it to create a face where it could be flipped out. But that's just me. You guys can disagree.

Parts switching seems to be more economical. Extra mechanisms on such a small figure might break the bank for a certain project to be green lit. Been done for sometime even for higher end figures like SoC, figma etc.

Oh and don't be afraid to break the mold with your posts. We all have our own preferences.

Even high end Macross toys come with some degree (usually just hands) of parts switching. I guess it's just something I've come to expect.

Ironhidensh wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

President-prime wrote:Thank you for response and non offensive comment. Like people not liking backpacks or bits and pieces of car parts visible on the robot, I prefer my figures fully in tact. Personally, I feel that figures where we need to switch parts or extra this and that other than weapons and additional accessories are not definitive. figures are creeping up to the hundreds now. How hard is it to create a face where it could be flipped out. But that's just me. You guys can disagree.

Parts switching seems to be more economical. Extra mechanisms on such a small figure might break the bank for a certain project to be green lit. Been done for sometime even for higher end figures like SoC, figma etc.

Oh and don't be afraid to break the mold with your posts. We all have our own preferences.

Even high end Macross toys come with some degree (usually just hands) of parts switching. I guess it's just something I've come to expect.

And to get around mass shifting/proportionality issues. Slight deviation. If you recall the Bandai Godaikins of the 80s. Not proportional. Some heads like Toshio Daimos had big heads and wee bodies for the Tranzer. The SoC version version dealt with the issue by having a proportional head swap.

As Ironhidensh mentioned, Yamato and some Bandai Macross figs switched hands with the puffed marshmallow type to the mechanical gear detail type. So like MP-UM, awesome as it is would have looked nice if he had poseable fingers to hold the Matrix.

But nothing wrong in wanting the whole package without switching parts.

Still, for a non BW TFfan, I bit the bullet and ordered him. Too bad it won't be one with the extra weapon like the one for the Asia market

Last time we saw the upcoming first Beast Wars Masterpiece figure from Takara Tomy, it was very much unfinished - but it looks like Transformers MP-32 Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal is ready to maximize and roll out at the Tokyo Toy Show, as you can see in the images mirrored below via DaimChoc Reports (if you find the actual source, please let us know!). The accessories are all gathered together, both gorilla and robot mode are shown, so scroll down and take a look!

Looks good. That stand looks like it's a bit uncomfortable though!

He is such an awesome looking masterpiece

Looks like they ditched the weird, almost metallic blue on the beast mode face and chest. I was going to get one either way, but this makes me feel even better about it.

Dude! YES!

.... But seriously.... Bat-mask...

The awesome is so strong with this guy that it makes up for the complete fail that is Titans Return.

Ironhidensh wrote:The awesome is so strong with this guy that it makes up for the complete fail that is Titans Return.

Come on man, Wheelie is pretty cool.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:The awesome is so strong with this guy that it makes up for the complete fail that is Titans Return.

Come on man, Wheelie is pretty cool.

True. One figure, however, cannot save an entire line.

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:The awesome is so strong with this guy that it makes up for the complete fail that is Titans Return.

Come on man, Wheelie is pretty cool.

True. One figure, however, cannot save an entire line.

I personally feel that line is ultra solid and I feel lucky as a TF fan that if I have a problem with how any of them look paint wise, I have another option. But of course, I totally respect anyone who thinks otherwise.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:The awesome is so strong with this guy that it makes up for the complete fail that is Titans Return.

Come on man, Wheelie is pretty cool.

True. One figure, however, cannot save an entire line.

I personally feel that line is ultra solid and I feel lucky as a TF fan that if I have a problem with how any of them look paint wise, I have another option. But of course, I totally respect anyone who thinks otherwise.

I know I'm in the vast minority with my feelings. Ironically, I actually like the paint on many of the line's figures. My problems lie with non headmasters now being headmasters. Bad mold choices for repaints on characters who deserve original molds. Also, in my opinion, bad size class choices. It would also be fair to say I've been so spoiled by masterpiece and 3rd party, I have a hard time giving the main lines a fair look.

Thankfully, there are figures like Primal here to make up for the rest.

Ironhidensh wrote:I know I'm in the vast minority with my feelings. Ironically, I actually like the paint on many of the line's figures. My problems lie with non headmasters now being headmasters. Bad mold choices for repaints on characters who deserve original molds. Also, in my opinion, bad size class choices. It would also be fair to say I've been so spoiled by masterpiece and 3rd party, I have a hard time giving the main lines a fair look.

Thankfully, there are figures like Primal here to make up for the rest.

I totally get that size class issue. As for the headmasters on everyone thing I recently learned that the movie bots all became headmasters in the Japanese cartoon, so its not completely as left field as I thought at first. And Takara's looks sooooooooo good. As good as this Primal (I preordered both from Anime export). And believe it or not, I am a bit more appreciative of these mainline products over the MPs and 3p toys. I own them too and somehow because of the money I spend, I expect more than I usually get (in recent memory, only Ironhide really lived up to my expectations). With cheaper mainline toys, I expect less and usually dont end up dissapointed. Also, so far all my 3p toys had issues with really loose parts or pieces falling off so it leaves a bitter taste.

Packaging image found in this story: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/36006/

Dammit, the more I see of these, the more I want em. But my MP shelves are pretty full as it is!

Big Grim wrote:Dammit, the more I see of these, the more I want em. But my MP shelves are pretty full as it is!

no worries, start a new shelf just for Beast Wars MPs, doesnt have to be next to the others

Would require more shelves than I have space for! *sobs*

We knew the Hasbro Asia release of MP 32 Optimus Primal would come with a skull mace/flail referencing the accessory from the original toy and we got to see this mace at the Cybertron Con. These phots were found on the Hobbybase Facebook page. You will notice that it is on an actual chain. It makes sense to see this accessory at this particular show since it is only available through Hasbro Asia, and not Takara. While Hasbro Asia releases of Masterpiece toys have been happening for years now, it's interesting to see how Hasbro is really appropriating the Masterpiece line in Asia by having them displayed and revealed at their shows and having the Hasbro logo proudly displayed on the cardboard at the base of the figure. Will you be getting this toy? And if so which release will you be getting, Takara or Hasbro Asia?

"Die Cast Mace"

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Nice I don't ever remember him using one in series

dragons wrote:Nice I don't ever remember him using one in series

He didn't use one in the series. The weapon is from his original 1996 Ultra class toy.

Argh, this guy looks so good. Nice touch with the diecast too

Though we brought you a look at its predecessor, and some shots of the figure in both modes and the packaging, thanks to Dengeki Hobby we have a whole new pictorial review with clear images for Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP32 Optimus Primal/Beast Convoy! What you can find below are details, accessories, packaging, poses, and the series of facial expressions that come with the figure - check them out!

Can't wait for this guy!

The only time I regret not being able to afford a MP figure. He looks so good. Him and Cheetor both. Kill me if they make a Rhinox.

I really don't like this character/line/figure but I'm sure as hell not missing getting him! The engineering and design, even from just the image....

meh...I'm content with the original BW version. That was a damn good figure.

Man, I was content to skip the Beast Wars MP line but these photos make it hard!

Burn wrote:meh...I'm content with the original BW version. That was a damn good figure.

How's the arm poseability?

The boxed pic is so tiny I can't make out that first Kanji in his rank. I can tell the rest of it is 司令官 ("Shireikan"), meaning "Commander", but that first Kanji is too small for me to read.

It doesn't look like 総 ("Sō") to me, which is the Kanji in 総司令官 ("Sōshireikan") that means "Supreme Commander", the rank commonly attributed to Autobot and Maximal leaders in Japan.

Aww, I too was going to skip BW-MP figures but I can't. Looks like a fun figure.

Sabrblade wrote:The boxed pic is so tiny I can't make out that first Kanji in his rank. I can tell the rest of it is 司令官 ("Shireikan"), meaning "Commander", but that first Kanji is too small for me to read.

It doesn't look like 総 ("Sō") to me, which is the Kanji in 総司令官 ("Sōshireikan") that means "Supreme Commander", the rank commonly attributed to Autobot and Maximal leaders in Japan.

Wasn't Fortress and Starsaber one of those?