Takara Transformers Masterpiece Movie 02 - Bumblebee

Rated X wrote:We are all sick of Bumblebee figures. I own 9 and I am going to get stuck with a 10th one when I buy the red Rampage set. The Masterpiece line should be exclusive to G1 homages.

What we really want to see:

1. Wal-Mart G1 Masterpiece Thundercracker (to complete the set)

2. Hasbro Masterpiece coneheads

3. Masterpiece G1 Soundwave

4. Masterpiece G1 Galvatron

5. Masterpiece G1 Arcee

6. Masterpiece G1 Jazz (like the Botcon 2010 first prize custom figure)

7. Masterpiece Ultra Magnus with blue and red armor (not just a white Optimus Prime)

Hasbro...youve been doing pretty well this year. This is your chance to capitalize where Takara has failed. The Masterpiece line...make it happen !!!

joesaysso wrote:Quite frankly, the mold itself looks like one of the very best, and most movie realistic molds that has been made. With that said, I will pass. Simply because of that f'n cannon arm. Bumblebee has his arm in "cannon mode" for about 15 seconds combined in both movies, yet every f'n figure that comes out has an f'n cannon arm and I am utterly sick of it. It especially angers me when they ruin a good/great mold with the damn cannon arm, like for example the stunning mold discussed in this thread. Somebody somewhere in the Has/Tak chain of command needs to be choked out over this cannon arm thing.

joesaysso wrote:Quite frankly, the mold itself looks like one of the very best, and most movie realistic molds that has been made. With that said, I will pass. Simply because of that f'n cannon arm. Bumblebee has his arm in "cannon mode" for about 15 seconds combined in both movies, yet every f'n figure that comes out has an f'n cannon arm and I am utterly sick of it. It especially angers me when they ruin a good/great mold with the damn cannon arm, like for example the stunning mold discussed in this thread. Somebody somewhere in the Has/Tak chain of command needs to be choked out over this cannon arm thing.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
70's Camaro, Camaro Concept and Cannon Bumblebee would like to have a word with you

joesaysso wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
70's Camaro, Camaro Concept and Cannon Bumblebee would like to have a word with you

Then I'd turn to Cannon BB and say, "Man, so close for you Cannon BB. So close. If only you came packaged with a real weapon instead of some goofy gimmick that wasn't even featured in a movie.

Pontimax 01 wrote:

joesaysso wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
70's Camaro, Camaro Concept and Cannon Bumblebee would like to have a word with you

Then I'd turn to Cannon BB and say, "Man, so close for you Cannon BB. So close. If only you came packaged with a real weapon instead of some goofy gimmick that wasn't even featured in a movie.

I would suggest you rewatch the battle scene with Brawl and BB in the first movie then. As far as having the cannons in car mode, well I think that was just a perk of the toy.

009* wrote:I wonder if they'll tweak the current Leader Optimus to get it the line, or wait for the third movie?

Regimus Prime wrote:Oh wow! Another movie Bumblebee. The world definitely needs this. And I do agree that MP's do need to be exclusive to G1 because those of us who are "old" enough to remember how the action figures never really lived up to their cartoon (especially Transformers the movie) counter parts. Where as the new movie figures , especially since ROTF, are more similar to their on screen representations.

Dead Metal wrote:How often do I have to tell you guys that:
This is not the main Masterpiece line, this is a brand new sub line and doesn't affect the main G1 line!

Seriously I'm sick and tiered of having to say this.

monstergrotusque wrote:wow......got your period there buddy?
Pretty rude when your bitchy eh?
The word Masterpiece sprawled on the headline would lend itself to being perceived as a MASTERPIECE!!!

Dead Metal wrote:The main, MP line has had loads of releases this year more than ever before and there's a new mold coming up so shut up.

joesaysso wrote:You should bring it down a notch. Not everybody reads all of your posts and takes notes so they can recall what you had to say on any given day. While I knew better, I can understand how the mistake could be made. Quite honestly, I believe that Tak/Has is banking on people making the same mistake. The "Masterpiece" line has been turned into a brand name by Takara over the years. It isn't an accident or a coincidence that they applied the Masterpiece name onto this movie line as well. They are hoping people will make the same mistake, confuse the two lines, and scarf up these figures just as much as the real MPs. If you want to be angry at somebody, be mad at Tak/Has for causing the confusion on purpose.

joesaysso wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:The main, MP line has had loads of releases this year more than ever before and there's a new mold coming up so shut up.

You aren't seriously counting a bunch of re-paints as life in the MP line are you? Unless I missed something the only new mold we've seen lately was Grimlock. Then another re-do (or two) of the Prime mold and another re-do of the seeker mold. I don't mind repaints/re-tools that spawn new characters but a plain gray Prime to commerate a 15 second scene in the animated movie and charging an arm and a leg for it........thats not exactly the activity that people want or the line needs. Hasbro getting the molds and bringing them to the states has done more for me than what Takara has been doing for me with the line. I'm with you on the whole "its not the same line" arguement. But since you are throwing release numbers out there I'd like to remind you that nearly everything that has come out in the main MP line this year has been sub-numbered i.e. MP-01B. Even Takara is acknowleding that these aren't full (real) releases.

You should bring it down a notch. Not everybody reads all of your posts and takes notes so they can recall what you had to say on any given day. While I knew better, I can understand how the mistake could be made. Quite honestly, I believe that Tak/Has is banking on people making the same mistake. The "Masterpiece" line has been turned into a brand name by Takara over the years. It isn't an accident or a coincidence that they applied the Masterpiece name onto this movie line as well. They are hoping people will make the same mistake, confuse the two lines, and scarf up these figures just as much as the real MPs. If you want to be angry at somebody, be mad at Tak/Has for causing the confusion on purpose.

Dead Metal wrote:You're forgetting the upcoming Rodimus mold which is slated for a December/January release.

joesaysso wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:You're forgetting the upcoming Rodimus mold which is slated for a December/January release.

I'm not forgetting about it. I'm just not counting it. Yet. A few news article tidbits and a couple of prototype pics does not a figure make. Sure, it means that plans have been made and maybe that wheels are in motion. But stuff happens. Plans could get scrapped. Delays could take place. I don't like to count a figure, especially a Masterpiece, until it actually materializes.

And honestly, you aren't really wrong in anything you said at all. The MP and MP-M lines are very different. There has been quite a bit of activity in the MP line in the last calendar year. Perhaps not the activity that I have been wanting but I suppose if there was a repaint that I just had to have (as I said I don't like repaints that don't produce different characters but for the sake of argument), I would be pretty excited if the Has/Tak gave it to me. And yes, the MP line is pretty much on a decent pace bewteen original mold Grimlock and original mode Rodimus. (Speaking of, I forgot to throw in the repaint of MP Grimlock in my previous post as well. The bluer one that costs a billion dollars) However, I just don't see the point in taking this issue so personally that it warranted the kind of reaction that you gave it. I don't really know any of the people who have previously posted but do you? Perhaps they aren't regulars to the forum. Perhaps they are just getting back into collecting or getting into it for the first time and are as educated about the different lines. What difference does it make?

And honestly why should you even care if one guy doesn't know the difference between what toy line is what and what figures come from what lines? Whats more important: I know that Drift came from the Generations line or that Drift sits on my shelf? Lines of toys often get blurred amoung collections anyway. Generations/Universe get displayed with G1 all the time. Human Alliance get displayed with regular Movie lines and so on. Who cares about any of it? The bottom line is this figure is good, this figure is garbage.

I like to live by the saying: you pick the battles worth fighting. I think you just picked the wrong battle here. You gained nothing by correcting the person and may have lost people's respect in correcting him in the manner that you did. Anyway, I've wasted enough internet space on this issue. We should perhaps all move on.

This Bumblebee looks like THE Movie BB to have....until the next movie comes out and the next IT BB comes out.

Rodimus Prime wrote:While I think Movie Bee is a definite upgrade over ANY other Bumblebee in the TF Universe, I haven't, and will not, buy any of his toys. I came close to getting HA Bee, but thought better of it. This will not change my mind.

And yes, Dead Metal is right about this not being part of the main line. Details. His methods of "enlightenment" however, are his choices.

I also agree that the repaints of the molds such as Magnus, Nemesis Prime, and sleep mode Prime are not "new," simply repaints. Same with Thundercracker and Skywarp. "New" would qualify as Grimlock, the upcoming Rodimus ( *drool* ) and Megatron. Now, if Soundwave and Shockwave could be the next ones, I would consider Primus smiling down on us. (Me at least.)

Sky-Quake wrote: remember the days when Takara made stuff better than hasbro

First-Aid wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:How often do I have to tell you guys that:
This is not the main Masterpiece line, this is a brand new sub line and doesn't affect the main G1 line!

Seriously I'm sick and tiered of having to say this.

Well I'm sorry, but I didn't know this...nor have you told me this in the past. So forgive my seriously (apparently) substandard intelligence level for missing this little tidbit of information.

joesaysso wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
70's Camaro, Camaro Concept and Cannon Bumblebee would like to have a word with you

Fine, fine. And first I'd say, "70's Camaro BB, you don't even get to talk because you are an utter turd of a toy so go to the corner and shuddap before I turn you into kitbash fodder." Then I'd turn to Cannon BB and say, "Man, so close for you Cannon BB. So close. If only you came packaged with a real weapon instead of some goofy gimmick that wasn't even featured in a movie. Your eyes are so big that they kind of scare me. And while you did get two arms, your hands are utterly useless since you didn't come packaged with a weapon and even if you did, the hands you have couldn't hold it anyway. Sorry but get over into the corner with 70's Camaro BB." Finally I'd turn to Concept Camaro BB. "Looks like its just you and me, buddy. One good mold of BB out of the bunch with two good arms. Good ahead and get cozy on my shelf. Let me know if you need anything. Thanks to what Hasbro is doing with the Bumblebee character, it looks like you are going to be there a long time."

Mindmaster wrote:I'm getting tired of these rip-offs of already-released figures and naming them Masterpieces in Japan. Not cool, Takara. Not cool. Even thought they have more accurate paint schemes, you're not getting our wallets this time. Ok maybe Blurrz's, but not mine. Just messing around with you, Blurrz. Not serious.