The circle is complete ... Lego rips off Kre-o that ripped off Lego
Sunday, October 21st, 2012 11:26AM CDT
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Posted by Flashwave on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by CMBcheetor on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:42am CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:54am CDT
Posted by Tresob on October 21st, 2012 @ 11:56am CDT
No Kreons, no sale.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:14pm CDT
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:23pm CDT
Posted by noctorro on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:30pm CDT
I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.
Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:31pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:46pm CDT
Seriously though, so it has a few similarities, and already you guys are yelling rip-off? I never heard you guys complain about certain 3rd Party toys....
Posted by Grimlock64 on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on October 21st, 2012 @ 12:57pm CDT
noctorro wrote:L-A-M-E
I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.
Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.
The Throwbots folded in half and tucked their arms away. Not much of a transformation. The...Vahki? Whatever their names were, the drones from Bionicle 2004, they had a bit more transformation. They turned from biped to quadruped by bending backwards and flipping their arms and heads around. LEGO has never been much for engineering actual transformations, since the whole point of LEGO is to build and rebuild in different ways. That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.
Posted by Nyancatron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:08pm CDT
When is a building block company going to do them so they don't look like ass?
Posted by f-primus-unicron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:22pm CDT
if lego wants to make Kre-o like sets, let them do it, since as you said, kre-o is itself a rippof of lego
and about the quality of lego or kre-o
i think they are similar, i had some years ago some lego parts that broke just 2 montsh after, and i havent hear anything bad about kre-o.
and whata bout the kreons? just because they are g1? thats it?
c'mon if you really whant a transformable robot the build it(is possible in both, lego and kreo)
and if you dont wanna to spend your time building it, just buy a regular transformer figure and thats it
Posted by Super Megatron on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:32pm CDT
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 21st, 2012 @ 1:42pm CDT
That Bot wrote: That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.
Hey, if you want a brickformer, just hit up ebay for some G1 stuff.
Posted by r3devi7 on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:11pm CDT
Posted by dragons on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:18pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:22pm CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:That Bot wrote: That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.
Hey, if you want a brickformer, just hit up ebay for some G1 stuff.
I was waiting for that.
Posted by Mindmaster on October 21st, 2012 @ 2:52pm CDT
But I'm not a fan of building blocks, so neither Lego or Kre-O is going to get any money from me.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:23pm CDT
Posted by XDMan on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:37pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 21st, 2012 @ 3:52pm CDT
XDMan wrote:There is also Diablock, Built to Rule and another TF themed building set (which is canceled).
You must be talking about Block Town, with redecos of the Skyscorchers and Axelerators.
Posted by Bowspearer on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:11pm CDT
Bowspearer wrote:LEGO is in no way ripping of Kreo here. What people forget is that LEGO have a history of doing transforming robots (the first one which comes to mind is a thechnics transforming truck set [8852]) since at least the 1989.
We know, and nobody is questioning that.
The entire point of this thread is not that Lego has made a set like this, but that it's GREEN.
It bears far more than a passing resemblance to Springer, lol.
Posted by Bowspearer on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:35pm CDT
RAcast wrote:Bowspearer wrote:LEGO is in no way ripping of Kreo here. What people forget is that LEGO have a history of doing transforming robots (the first one which comes to mind is a thechnics transforming truck set [8852]) since at least the 1989.
We know, and nobody is questioning that.
The entire point of this thread is not that Lego has made a set like this, but that it's GREEN.
It bears far more than a passing resemblance to Springer, lol.
That's debateable. I think the reason people are jumping to that conclusion is because it's green and has 3 modes, including a helecopter. However the truck mode is radically different from Springer's ground mode and the robot mode is also vastly different from Springer's in terms of colours and look.
I'd agree that you could definitely say that it's "inspired" by Springer, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say it's a rip off.
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 6:40pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:02pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:26pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:43pm CDT
But in addition to the slight bot-mode resemblance to Animated/Prime Bulkhead, I can't help but be reminded that Energon Bulkhead (first use of the name?), was called Sprang in Superlink since he was a Springer homage. That part must be a coincidence, but it's a weird one.
Posted by craggy on October 21st, 2012 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:06pm CDT
or go with the bionicle
Posted by Zeedust on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:44pm CDT
Posted by f-primus-unicron on October 21st, 2012 @ 9:59pm CDT
so i still dont get all this complaining
Posted by TulioDude on October 21st, 2012 @ 10:09pm CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:They've been doing those sets with enough pieces to make three different things for a while now. Giant robots aren't a new thing either. That is remarkably similar to Springer, though.
This.
Posted by Autobot032 on October 21st, 2012 @ 10:15pm CDT
After so many years, it was legal to be a brick maker, like Lego. (I forget what year, but it was rather recent.)
Oxford (the company that produces Kre-O for Hasbro, Megablox for Rose Art/Wal-Mart) hasn't ripped anyone off.
Lego making kits that create a vehicle mode and robot mode is not a rip off either. Heck, if it transforms, they're one step ahead of Hasbro.
All's fair game at this point. *shrugs* Now...if Lego had molded an Optimus or Bumblebee head, then you'd have something.
Posted by Bowspearer on October 22nd, 2012 @ 1:43am CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Ehh, these are really thin similarities. The only thing really Bulkhead-ish is the underbite/mouthplate, which is really common in mechas; the pickup truck isn't at all anything Bulkhead ever turned into. The green is just military green, which is a very common choice among vehicles and mechas as it could conceivably be used by most of them.
And I think that's the thing. There's often one big rey area between originality and ripping off which is inspiration and in a huge chunk of that is going to be coincidence.
How much of this is inpsired by the same things that inspired Bulkhead and Springer? How much of this is going to be common to other things that we as Transformers fans have just come to strongly associate with certain things? Those are 2 big questions which need to be answered in the process of answering the question about the originality of this LEGO set.
Posted by noctorro on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:00am CDT
That Bot wrote:noctorro wrote:L-A-M-E
I thought they would make Transformers Lego's right after the Slizer figure line.
Which lateron became Robo Riders, and then Bionicle and now Hero Factory.
Slizers did kind of transform to fit their space ships AND THEY DIDN'T NEED RE ASSEMBLY TO TRANSFORM. This what they're doing now is kind of silly.
The Throwbots folded in half and tucked their arms away. Not much of a transformation. The...Vahki? Whatever their names were, the drones from Bionicle 2004, they had a bit more transformation. They turned from biped to quadruped by bending backwards and flipping their arms and heads around. LEGO has never been much for engineering actual transformations, since the whole point of LEGO is to build and rebuild in different ways. That said, a non-partforming brickformer (from anybody) would be awesome.
Yessss, Throwbots, that's what they were called elsewhere. And the Vahki were kind of cool. But those limbs are great to make transformation movement. The other bricks can be complete doors and windows. I don't see a problem with Lego trying that first.
Posted by robotmel on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:06am CDT
El Duque wrote:Bulk-springer or is it Springer-head? Either way this upcoming Lego Creator set seems suspiciously similar to the Transformers characters Bulkhead in robot mode and Springer in vehicle modes. Is this a case of Lego ripping off Kre-o that ripped off Lego? Take a look below.
Great to see 3rd Party producers of a potential Transformers homage getting front paged once again!
Thats number 2!!
Posted by Screamfleet on October 22nd, 2012 @ 9:04am CDT
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 22nd, 2012 @ 11:50am CDT
Screamfleet wrote:In this case, I bet the designer isn't aware of what they did.
I don't know about that. There is no way the people who design the lego sets aren't massive nerds.
Posted by King Kuuga on October 22nd, 2012 @ 2:02pm CDT
Posted by Screamfleet on October 22nd, 2012 @ 3:32pm CDT
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 23rd, 2012 @ 10:59am CDT
That Bot wrote:Doesn't mean they're Transformers fans.
You only need one of them to be, though.
Posted by Grimlock Shakur on October 23rd, 2012 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by Scaleface on October 26th, 2012 @ 8:23am CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:from the looks of it it doesnt transform so im out. Yeah im sure the lego ones will be better but if i had to chose id go kreo since they include actual transformer heads. But until either line make the "figures" transform i could care less.
The company making transforming Lego Transformers is Kazi. They seem to be the only one who figured people only want to assemble them once. They made about a dozen new and "homage" characters... and they can transform!
Posted by Anonymous on October 27th, 2012 @ 2:07am CDT
Scaleface wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:from the looks of it it doesnt transform so im out. Yeah im sure the lego ones will be better but if i had to chose id go kreo since they include actual transformer heads. But until either line make the "figures" transform i could care less.
The company making transforming Lego Transformers is Kazi. They seem to be the only one who figured people only want to assemble them once. They made about a dozen new and "homage" characters... and they can transform!
Apart from Optimus, the robot modes of all the others look like they were put together by Stephen Hawking. I do however take your point about building a set piece once then being able to transform it properly.
Posted by Handels-Messerschmitt on October 27th, 2012 @ 4:21am CDT
Posted by Anonymous on October 27th, 2012 @ 4:27am CDT
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:How can you possibly talk crap about DESTROY FOEMAN?!
Please forgive me, i was wrong to question the awesomeness that is Foeman
Posted by Noideaforaname on October 27th, 2012 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by King Kuuga on October 27th, 2012 @ 2:32pm CDT