Tokyo Toy Show 2015 Coverage: Masterpiece Optimus Primal Revealed

WOW hot off the heels of MP Ironhide, this came out of left field. Cant wait to see more

I'll be the first to ask on this page, HOW IN THE BLUE HECK DOES IT TRANSFORM?

*utterly speechless*

MP optimus primal? i bet nobody saw that coming. as a BW fan, this has me incredibly excited.

Masterpiece Beast Wars?! Masterpiece Beast Wars!! *glances at wallet* Masterpiece Beast Wars...

I'm going to have to assume that's a non-transforming mock-up, though. Otherwise there has to be some dark sorcery going on.

And I'm not quite sure if I like it looking literally like a 90s CGI cartoon render. That's not quite "fashionably retro" as 8-bit or N64 polygons or whatever.

THIS IS THE OPTIMUS PRIMAL THAT I ALWAYS WANTED AND NEVER GOT AS A KID!!!!!!

This will be mine.

Nothing will stop me; cannot wait to see the robot mode and any of the additional features it'll come with.

I am frothing at the mouth with anticipation for this figure

Great. Now I really want to get this guy and a Voyager sized Dinobot for my Beast Wars collection.

I think Soundwave just got replaced as the MP I want the most.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll be the first to ask on this page, HOW IN THE BLUE HECK DOES IT TRANSFORM?

This may just be a mock-up

Just speculating on that one pic, I'm thinking Beast Mode is static and unmovable while robot mode will be articulated.

There are no words.

I cried a little. The happy kind.

BW gets the MP love Could he be a shell former?

I don't think I've ever been more excited for a toy in my life. The only thing that would make me happier would be MP Dinobot or BW Megatron. This and CW Bruticus.

I do not collect MP figures.

HOWEVER, I will be getting this guy, and the hopefully produced MP BW Megatron

Well, that's just prime.

I'm sure many mind just blew out at the reveal of a MP Optimus Primal! Not only did the MP line finally shy away from G1 a bit, they go to mother faux-king BEAST WARS!

I will wait for better, more detailed pictures.

YES!!!


This will be an instant buy, even if I have to sell half my organs

Everyone excited and I'm sitting here thinking "that isn't a gorilla".

Pass. For some reason I have distate for Transformers who turn into supposedly organic looking animals. Is why I passed on Generations Rhinox even at half price. And yet I was fond of Pretenders. Weird.

Wow. A Masterpiece Optimus Primal. Who would have thought.

I bet there is a way to design Optimus Primal into a toy that looks just like he was in the cartoon without making him look as if he's partly transformed.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Pass. For some reason I have distate for Transformers who turn into supposedly organic looking animals. Is why I passed on Generations Rhinox even at half price. And yet I was fond of Pretenders. Weird.

I feel the same way.

Glorious. Now gimme Dinobot.

I hope it gets a new number, such as BWMP-01, and won't be my first hole in the MP line. I understand it's an anniversary thing, but MP-28 doesn't suit this.

Masterpiece Beast Wars huh?


Why the hell not?

Robogeek1973 wrote:Masterpiece Beast Wars huh?


Why the hell not?

I'll take a Masterpiece Fuzor Silverbolt and Dinobot in a heartbeat.

I see shoulder and hip movie meant his beast mode looks like she'll see nothing he can move his neck in beast mode I'm with other member who said this how does he transform?

Good thing masterpiece fans choice wasn't him right?

I keep glancing at this guy and the same few thoughts keep popping into my head.

It looks like one of those inflatable gorillas on the roof of a dealership to sell used cars.

King Kong.

And, barring it not being a non-transforming mockup, a rubbery/soft plastic skin with a posable skeleton. Not unlike a Barbie doll.

Like dragons said, there do appear to be a few visible joints in the shoulders, hips and neck, and possibly wrists and feet.

With that said, I still can't imagine how it transforms.
I think noideaforaname is onto something with the dark sorcery at work here.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm sure many mind just blew out at the reveal of a MP Optimus Primal! Not only did the MP line finally shy away from G1 a bit, they go to mother faux-king BEAST WARS! :shock:

I will wait for better, more detailed pictures.

So glad he wasn't the masterpiece fan's choice figure now :3 because I knew we would eventually get him but I never escpected this to happen
this soon but i hope the masterpiece line will make masterpiece verisons of the japan continuation of g1

My first thought was: we may get MP Beast Wars Megatron before a correctly scaled MP G1 Megatron...

megatronus wrote:My first thought was: we may get MP Beast Wars Megatron before a correctly scaled MP G1 Megatron...

HA! Yeah. Not to sully the unveiling of Ironhide and Primal, but that was my firsth thought too

I thought the exact same thing also. Since nothing was announced I figure I take the chance any longer and I will be picking up Apollyon after all.

I did not see this coming. Between this and the recent generations Rattrap and Rhinox we just got half of the first season Maximals.

Makes me wonder how big he's gonna be? Will he scale with Rhinox and rattrap?

Masterpiece Beast Wars? MASTERPIECE BEAST WARS?! AS IN MORE THAN JUST PRIMAL???? AND HE LOOKS LIKE HE JUST STEPPED OUT OF THE CARTOON??? Yes, I want him to look like his dodgy 90's cgi animation, because that's Primal. Not some modern fancy looking monkey.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've just exploded. Everywhere. Takara. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! This is the only way I can say how this reveal makes me feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2t4MBhGAg8

Now that we're getting Primal. I wonder who else we'll get. I'm hoping they do Megatron and Dinobot at least.

I need to see how Primal transforms now.

What's the word on that Devastator?

s14roller wrote:What's the word on that Devastator?

"Sasquach".

Convoy wrote:I keep glancing at this guy and the same few thoughts keep popping into my head.

It looks like one of those inflatable gorillas on the roof of a dealership to sell used cars.

All I can say is that that's what he looked like in the show, so that's what the MP should look like.

Yeah, if they ever made a MP Primal that looked more like this hairy thing...



...I'd be significantly less enthused about it than the one looking like this clayish thing:



The Beast Wars cast turned into unrealistic animals, and that's how they should be since that what they looked like.

Starsaber468 wrote:So glad he wasn't the masterpiece fan's choice figure now :3 because I knew we would eventually get him but I never escpected this to happen this soon but i hope the masterpiece line will make masterpiece verisons of the japan continuation of g1

I'm shocked it's happening based on that same poll. This came in 6th behind Star Saber (released), Micron Legend Convoy, God Ginrai, Dai Atlas, and RiD 2001 Fire Convoy. Must be just due to the Beast Wars 20th anniversary, or maybe the sales of the reissue of the original toy in the Legends line were just off the chain.

Regardless, yeah, I'm thrilled this toy is happening. Really excited. Just re-watched the last third of Beast Wars a couple weekends ago and it's such a good show, and this character was always a standout for me because it didn't feel like Optimus Prime as a gorilla. I always found that Primal was a similar yet totally separate character on non-trivial levels and not just by plot based coincidence.

Now for my usually (I hope) suppressed entitlement to shine through: where's my damn MP Micron Legend Convoy, Takara? You get on that next, yes?

ScottyP wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:So glad he wasn't the masterpiece fan's choice figure now :3 because I knew we would eventually get him but I never escpected this to happen this soon but i hope the masterpiece line will make masterpiece verisons of the japan continuation of g1

I'm shocked it's happening based on that same poll. This came in 6th behind Star Saber (released), Micron Legend Convoy, God Ginrai, Dai Atlas, and RiD 2001 Fire Convoy. Must be just due to the Beast Wars 20th anniversary, or maybe the sales of the reissue of the original toy in the Legends line were just off the chain.

I'd be inclined to believe it's for the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars, myself, since there seems to be a recurring pattern of Takara making a Masterpiece of a good guy leader whenever they want to celebrate something big.

2004: 20th anniversary of the brand - MP-1 Convoy

2009: 25th anniversary of the brand - MP-8 Grimlock and MP-8X King Grimlock

2010: "Welcome to Transformers 2010" campaign - MP-9 Rodimus Convoy (though since it was what the campaign was leading up to, it didn't get released until 2011)

2014: 30th anniversary of the brand - MP-24 Star Saber (though, it didn't get released until 2015, but was heavily promoted in 2014)

2016: 20th anniversary of Beast Wars - MP... Wait a sec.


Do we even know what this thing's ID number and formal name are?

People actually like that thing? It looks like garbage to me. In fairness it may just be a mockup, and the final product might be a lot better, but it looks like bad articulation and an incredibly low level of detail. I wouldn't pay deluxe prices for that thing, let alone masterpiece prices.

Optimum Supreme wrote:People actually like that thing? It looks like garbage to me. In fairness it may just be a mockup, and the final product might be a lot better, but it looks like bad articulation and an incredibly low level of detail. I wouldn't pay deluxe prices for that thing, let alone masterpiece prices.

It looks 100% accurate to theCG model. That's befitting of a Masterpiece if you ask me.

Now if you think its garbage because you hate the figure AND the model its based on then... I can't help you

Optimum Supreme wrote:People actually like that thing? It looks like garbage to me. In fairness it may just be a mockup, and the final product might be a lot better, but it looks like bad articulation and an incredibly low level of detail. I wouldn't pay deluxe prices for that thing, let alone masterpiece prices.

So... You have one of those "magic computer" that can "enhance" blurry pictures from those CSI type of TV shows?

Wow, lucky you.

Optimum Supreme wrote:People actually like that thing? It looks like garbage to me. In fairness it may just be a mockup, and the final product might be a lot better, but it looks like bad articulation and an incredibly low level of detail. I wouldn't pay deluxe prices for that thing, let alone masterpiece prices.

To be fair it's probably just a mock up to give folks an idea of what's coming.

Robogeek1973 wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:People actually like that thing? It looks like garbage to me. In fairness it may just be a mockup, and the final product might be a lot better, but it looks like bad articulation and an incredibly low level of detail. I wouldn't pay deluxe prices for that thing, let alone masterpiece prices.

To be fair it's probably just a mock up to give folks an idea of what's coming.

That's what I thought immediately. It looks like just a print out of the show model that they were going to use for design reference and/or to simply make sure they got the shape correct.

As for how it looks, I have never owned the Optimus Primal figure (a regret, I know) but they never totally appealed to me, because no matter how much the robot mode head was altered, the beast mode never looked like the design in the show, and it had become fairly iconic. The toy was "realistic" and the shows was... not, for lack of a better word. Therefore this design is absolutely perfect.

As for how it will transform, probably the same way the toy and show model transformed. I always figured, since they were the most accurate and well implemented of the show cast (at the time) that o/p and megatron would get some slight retooling (give megatron a hand, dammit) and then produced, there wouldn't be a need for a whole new mold necessarily.

As for not being amazing to others, well... it's cool, you don't have to like, I won't force you; but non-G1'ers have had precious few figures released for all the non-G1 shows, so keep that in mind the next time something non-G1 is being celebrated.

Hellscream9999 wrote:As for how it looks, I have never owned the Optimus Primal figure (a regret, I know) but they never totally appealed to me, because no matter how much the robot mode head was altered, it never looked like the design in the show. The toy was "realistic" and the shows was... not, for lack of a better word.

What about this smaller one?

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:As for how it looks, I have never owned the Optimus Primal figure (a regret, I know) but they never totally appealed to me, because no matter how much the robot mode head was altered, it never looked like the design in the show. The toy was "realistic" and the shows was... not, for lack of a better word.

What about this smaller one?

WHOOPS, that was super my bad I meant the BEAST mode was never accurate to the show, and as I watched that forever as a kid, it was really important to me that the beast mode at least resemble the character I loved growing up.