Transformers Generations Combiner Wars (and more) - Australian Retail Update

Nice to know that they will be coming down under, but I'll stick with BBTS. Just paid for 2 voyager and 1 legend + shipping and it was (after currency conversion) a few dollars cheaper than 2 voyagers at retail. Paying a little less to import and getting them 2 months sooner is preferred!

Cobotron wrote:Thew makes watching toy reviews, well, FUN!
"Voyager body. Deluxe Limbs. Put it in me!"

"Fantatcheting"

megatronus wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Thew makes watching toy reviews, well, FUN!
"Voyager body. Deluxe Limbs. Put it in me!"

"Fantatcheting"

Thew is the best!

The voyagers, Deluxes and scouts just hit my BBTS POL.

It Is Him wrote:The voyagers, Deluxes and scouts just hit my BBTS POL.

Words can't express how depressed this makes me.


Seriously, why did I cancel this morning?!?

Robogeek1973 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:The voyagers, Deluxes and scouts just hit my BBTS POL.

Words can't express how depressed this makes me.


Seriously, why did I cancel this morning?!?

why depressed? they aint out of stock. go get em!

shajaki wrote:

Robogeek1973 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:The voyagers, Deluxes and scouts just hit my BBTS POL.

Words can't express how depressed this makes me.


Seriously, why did I cancel this morning?!?

why depressed? they aint out of stock. go get em!

Powerglide is on pre-order again and listed as January even though they have sets of 4 in stock. As one who missed out on an individual PG initially it looks like BBTS will make me wait for him Seems to be the same for Silverbolt, so Robogeek would still have to wait a while...

@Robogeek: Why did you cancel?

so, 3P stuff, i know. but comparisons like this are important, and i think will help draw those of the fandom on the 3P fence. heres superion with MMC's feral rex! sizes up pretty damn good!


*pic courtesy of HKTF user sam chan*

also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

shajaki wrote:also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

Legends without head articulation/swivel/balljoint kill me.

The whole head of the tailgate/windcharger mould does rotate

prjkt wrote:The whole head of the tailgate/wine barber mould does rotate

Really? I thought it was stuck in place, like BB, SS & Swerve.

megatronus wrote:

prjkt wrote:The whole head of the tailgate/wine barber mould does rotate

Really? I thought it was stuck in place, like BB, SS & Swerve.

It's tight, but the whole thing does turn. Worked it out when I was trying to figure out why TG wasn't fitting into alt mode properly.

shajaki wrote:so, 3P stuff, i know. but comparisons like this are important, and i think will help draw those of the fandom on the 3P fence. heres superion with MMC's feral rex! sizes up pretty damn good!


*pic courtesy of HKTF user sam chan*

That Superion has Lego feet which have raised its height a bit.

megatronus wrote:Really? I thought it was stuck in place, like BB, SS & Swerve.

Yup.
That's a great comp.
I think they're both cool in their own special way.


Wait, Swerves head moves too Megsie.
Hold on,
fiddle fiddle fiddle
Oh, only forward and back.

Arctorro wrote:That Superion has Lego feet which have raised its height a bit.

Good catch.
Cool mod.

Predaking should be bigger.

shajaki wrote:also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

The RtS/United Windcharger is a great little figure, but I do appreciate the more accurate chest on the new Legends version, along with a slightly more G1-accurate color layout (all red arms, gray torso, etc.).

Wolfman Jake wrote:

shajaki wrote:also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

The RtS/United Windcharger is a great little figure, but I do appreciate the more accurate chest on the new Legends version, along with a slightly more G1-accurate color layout (all red arms, gray torso, etc.).

And more true to the original alt mode. Much like how it was a bummer to me that the new Knight Rider Kitt was a Mustang, I didn't really like Windcharger being a Mustang either. This Legends mold feels much better...

Va'al wrote:If Thew were up to date on current releases, I'd abuse my admin powers to feature only his reviews.

But he is not.

R, R, Really? (Sad end credits Incredible Hulk music plays)

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Va'al wrote:If Thew were up to date on current releases, I'd abuse my admin powers to feature only his reviews.

But he is not.

R, R, Really? (Sad end credits Incredible Hulk music plays)

Start making puns, and I will reconsider you.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

Nope, the deluxes come with collector cards now (like all other size clases) instead. Also, Hong Kong ships the very same hasbro product package with a choking warning sticker in the back of it's boxes.

Agamemnon wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

shajaki wrote:also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

The RtS/United Windcharger is a great little figure, but I do appreciate the more accurate chest on the new Legends version, along with a slightly more G1-accurate color layout (all red arms, gray torso, etc.).

And more true to the original alt mode. Much like how it was a bummer to me that the new Knight Rider Kitt was a Mustang, I didn't really like Windcharger being a Mustang either. This Legends mold feels much better...

Really? The RTS mold is so amazing! Articulation wise, transformation wise... he even has the flip out hand guns.

Outside of the color scheme, it's hard for me to see Legends Windcharger as better... but that's all in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.

Deco and G1-accuracy aside, the RTS mold is far superior. The legends mold, for starters, has some annoying limitations to its arm articulation, thanks to some poor engineering in the shoulders and elbows.

GuyIncognito wrote:Deco and G1-accuracy aside, the RTS mold is far superior. The legends mold, for starters, has some annoying limitations to its arm articulation, thanks to some poor engineering in the shoulders and elbows.

True enough. Still, he looks great. I have no problem owning both.

Haha, very funny

Not sure if it has already been mentioned in amongst the UK Smyths Toys elation but Toys R Us UK have their preorders listings up for the first waves of Combined Wars, no stocks yet, priced at £22.99 for both the Voyagers and £15.99 for the Deluxes.

The missus just gave me £30 worth of Amazon vouchers but wondering if I should wait a while...?

megatronus wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

shajaki wrote:also heres some windcharger compo's from paxcybertronia!

The RtS/United Windcharger is a great little figure, but I do appreciate the more accurate chest on the new Legends version, along with a slightly more G1-accurate color layout (all red arms, gray torso, etc.).

And more true to the original alt mode. Much like how it was a bummer to me that the new Knight Rider Kitt was a Mustang, I didn't really like Windcharger being a Mustang either. This Legends mold feels much better...

Really? The RTS mold is so amazing! Articulation wise, transformation wise... he even has the flip out hand guns.

Outside of the color scheme, it's hard for me to see Legends Windcharger as better... but that's all in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.

Oh, I quite agree with you. I was just speaking of the alt mode, of which I absolutely adore on the Legends figure. If I won a lottery, I'd love to turn a modern Camaro into a Firebird looking car much like that alt mode.

I haven't decided which will remain in my Classics display for Windcharger...

Arctorro wrote:
@Robogeek: Why did you cancel?

The main reason is because BBTS always seems to be the last to get in their stuff nowadays, so my impatience got the better of me and I ordered from a store that has been getting their stock from Hasbro pretty quickly.


This once it didn't work out for me so well.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

Nope, the deluxes come with collector cards now (like all other size clases) instead. Also, Hong Kong ships the very same hasbro product package with a choking warning sticker in the back of it's boxes.

Wow, I missed that. When were we told about the comics being dropped?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

Nope, the deluxes come with collector cards now (like all other size clases) instead. Also, Hong Kong ships the very same hasbro product package with a choking warning sticker in the back of it's boxes.

Wow, I missed that. When were we told about the comics being dropped?

Nowhere, that's the problem.

Now, this may be a hunch, but I think there may have been some miscommunication between Hasbro departments, resulting in only international cards and boxes being printed and none of the regular English-only US ones with the comics. Another hunch is that production of stock meant for the US is delayed for whatever reason.

We'll have to wait and see when wave 2 hits.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

Nope, the deluxes come with collector cards now (like all other size clases) instead. Also, Hong Kong ships the very same hasbro product package with a choking warning sticker in the back of it's boxes.

Wow, I missed that. When were we told about the comics being dropped?

We werent, they were just never shown at any part of any promotion linked to the toy release. They showed us the items in package and what they came with and we were never shown comics. So their lack of inclusion didnt surprise me. I think it's because this time Combiner Wars is an actual comic event that has yet to come out. But it could also be for cost reasons.

Or for language reasons. Hasbro has to make a different kind of packaging for certain parts of Canada that dont allow english only material. I do not think its the only place to require this kind of packaging since I see a lot of MISC generations figures online that also use the same kind of packaging.



By taking away the comics, they can standardize their packaging better which also reduces costs.

Nah, I know the real reason.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Now, this may be a hunch, but I think there may have been some miscommunication between Hasbro departments, resulting in only international cards and boxes being printed and none of the regular English-only US ones with the comics. Another hunch is that production of stock meant for the US is delayed for whatever reason.

We'll have to wait and see when wave 2 hits.

Just to clarify, the comics are not just available in the US. That is the edition Hong Kong used to distribute as well.

Not only are Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Voyager figures showing up at UK retail, it appears that the same chain - Smyths - is also starting to stock the Deluxe toys too. The images below come from fellow Seibertron.com user Primacron's Little Helper, and the comments are from the UK Sightings thread - make sure to flag up any sighting of these newcomers in the appropriate section and forums!

Update time. I've been in touch with the manager of the Cardiff store, they've had a delivery today and are expecting two tomorrow. He said they had Skydive and Fireflight. Assuming that all four deluxes are packaged together that must mean that they are on the pegs (didn't ask ) and the others have sold out, I think. He's put aside those two for me and will put aside the others if they come in (long story but suffice to say, a favour is the least they owed us ). So, I'll find out what's there Saturday morning when I go to pick stuff up. I'm telling you this because I don't believe for a second that this is the only Smyth's getting all these deliveries so, without wanting to give false hope, it may be worth staying in touch with your local store if you want CW for Christmas.

I've just got back from Smyths and they had all 4 deluxes in stock, I grabbed the three Aerialbots, but passed on Drag Strip.

I got the last Skydive and Fireflight so might be worth getting them to put Slingshot and Dragstrip aside for you as well.

Same pricing as Amazon.co.uk then. Good to know.

Would love to know if anybody in my area has spotted the deluxes at the Oldbury store? I may pop down there Saturday but given how much I have to do I could do without a wasted trip

megatronus wrote:Really? The RTS mold is so amazing! Articulation wise, transformation wise... he even has the flip out hand guns.

Outside of the color scheme, it's hard for me to see Legends Windcharger as better... but that's all in the eyes of the beholder, I guess.

I agree, he is fantastic. That said, last night I dropped Windcharger from my PoL and cancelled my Powerglide pre-order and just went with the set of 4. PG will replace the Ultra version on my shelves, and how I feel about the CW line in general will determine if others get replaced as well.

Robogeek1973 wrote:The main reason is because BBTS always seems to be the last to get in their stuff nowadays, so my impatience got the better of me and I ordered from a store that has been getting their stock from Hasbro pretty quickly.


This once it didn't work out for me so well.

I can understand that, only reason I stick with BBTS is their PoL system. Saves me heaps on shipping, and I've got to wait for it to build up, so doesn't change things if they are the last to get something.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

It Is Him wrote:It gets expensive trying to order all of Hasbro's stuff on eBay to beat everyone else to the youtube ad click-farm fest.

Tell me about it!


Stupid question, are the comics supposed to come with the wave 1 deluxes? I'm fairly certain that since mine came from Hong Kong I don't get the comics.

Nope, the deluxes come with collector cards now (like all other size clases) instead. Also, Hong Kong ships the very same hasbro product package with a choking warning sticker in the back of it's boxes.

Wow, I missed that. When were we told about the comics being dropped?

We werent, they were just never shown at any part of any promotion linked to the toy release. They showed us the items in package and what they came with and we were never shown comics. So their lack of inclusion didnt surprise me. I think it's because this time Combiner Wars is an actual comic event that has yet to come out. But it could also be for cost reasons.

Or for language reasons. Hasbro has to make a different kind of packaging for certain parts of Canada that dont allow english only material. I do not think its the only place to require this kind of packaging since I see a lot of MISC generations figures online that also use the same kind of packaging.



By taking away the comics, they can standardize their packaging better which also reduces costs.

See I was under the impression that the Combiner Wars comics and story were to be exclusive to the figures, hence an incentive to buy all the toys.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:See I was under the impression that the Combiner Wars comics and story were to be exclusive to the figures, hence an incentive to buy all the toys.

Nope. They've been hinting at the Combiner Wars thing for some time in the comic solicitations and both IDW and Hasbro are smart enough to not risk that kind of bad marketing maneuver. Forcing your loyal fan-base into making a move which they may not be willing or able to make just to keep up with your promised end product is nothing but a fast track to creating resentment, out right hatred and loss of customers.
Ok, let me re-phrase that: IDW is smart enough to not make that kind of d*** move. Hasbro could care less and would pull it anyway but it's not Hasbros' call this time around so we don't have to put up with that dilemma just yet.

So I've been spending some quality time with the limb bots and have to say they're really solid figures on their own. If you never own a torso for them it's not a loss. My one complaint is that there isn't real storage for the feet/fists in robot mode, at least with the Airialbots.

I'm calling it now, SDCC 2015 exclusive sets, G2 Airialbots and G2 Stunticons.

Anyobody think that Takara will just release these in gift sets with all five figures? How about packaging the Legends partner with the "Missing" member of the team.

If Takara goes crazy we might see something cool like some of the cars and Motormaster repainted into Land Bison.

I'm waiting to see what takara does, I would love if they made their own molds to go along with these (liokaiser please)

i dropped all my BBTS preorders for CW last night. not cause i wanted to... but two weeks before christmas is just bad timing

shajaki wrote:i dropped all my BBTS preorders for CW last night. not cause i wanted to... but two weeks before christmas is just bad timing

Ok my thoughts on the new CW rumours, because I'm bored and I feel like it:

Defensor/Protectobots
Hot-Spot - New mould, with remould potential
Streetwise - Stunticon repaint, possibly Deadend?
Blades - Alpha Brave retool, no missiles on arms, landing skids instead?
First-Aid - New mould
Rook - retool of Off-road as a swat van?
Groove - Legens sized bike, probably becomes weapon but would be really funny if he became a headmaster for Defensor

"Other" Autobots
Going under the assumption these guys are combined.
Mirage - Dragstrip redeco, it's almost a given.
Ironhide - repaint/retool of First Aid. This means we'll probably get a Ratchet too in 2016, though probably an exclusive.
Sunstreaker - I'd like a new mould, but will probably be Breakdown redeco'd. Chance of a Sideswipe repaint in 2016.
Prowl - could be a few things. Streetwise redeco, or Rook if he is a Swat Van. Not likely, but would be awesome - new mould and head for the rumoured Devastator.

Future combiners?

Will probably see Bruticus in 2016

Onslaught - Retool of Hotspot?
Vortex - Alpha Bravo repaint. Maybe new feet/cockpit of Helicopter
Blast-Off - Alpha Bravo's legs, new upper body.
Swindle - Retool of Off-road
Brawl - Hopefully a new Tank mould, and not a retool of Rook (again, if he's a Swat van, could be turned into an APC).

All of the above is almost pure speculation, so don't take any as fact, just me bored on a day off.

In a similar move to the Designer Desk videos that have been showing up from Hasbro, the official Transformers Facebook page has uploaded an image showing the evolution in the creation of one of the slowly released Generations Combiner Wars deluxe Alpha Bravo, member of the Aerialbots and Superion. Check it out mirrored below!

CW Superion using TFC Toys Uranos hands and feet. I wonder if they are compatible or just a mod?

Va'al wrote:

Odd seeing a WFC Seeker head there.

Sabrblade wrote:

Va'al wrote:

Odd seeing a WFC Seeker head there.

Even more odd is seeing the helicopter mode in all red with a white accent. This does not confirm Blades to be a repaint of Alpha Bravo IMO. Possibly based on Universe 2003 Ro-Tor, the helicopter member of Micromaster Superion: