Transformers Kingdom Shadow Panther and Waspinator found at US Retail

o.supreme wrote:Apparently wave 4 deluxes have now been spotted at U.S. retail (personally I haven't even seen wave 3 at stores yet despite getting them online weeks ago)

https://www.allspark.com/us-retail-sigh ... -in-texas/

Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Shadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.

??? Where did you pre-order from, there are no sites I am aware of that have official pre-orders available, which is what makes the instore sighting both intriguing, but also frustrating.

Lore Keeper wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Sgadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.

My coneheads took a week to ship form them. And now this wave is found in the US.

Yeah, kinda figures that would happen right after I order them from Canada.

Autobot_Benz wrote:Glad they are slowly coming. Whatever gets Tigatron out is all I care about. He is one I can't wait to get.

o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.

I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.

o.supreme wrote:I think those wave 4 Amazon pre-order listings are fanmade placeholders more than anything else. I mean I'm still holding on to Slammer until a conventional listing on Amazon or Pulse appears, but I don't think they are guaranteed. They can't even be found using the normal search feature on Amazon.

o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.

I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sonnava... My local area never got Wave 3, now we're skipping to Wave 4?! Ugh, this is Titans Return Wave 5 all over again.

First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...

Why not just buy them all from BBTS?

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...

Why not just buy them all from BBTS?

I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...

Why not just buy them all from BBTS?

I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.

Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)

First-Aid wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...

Why not just buy them all from BBTS?

I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.

Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)

Its a Master's degree, allowing me to be a nurse practitioner. So pretty good degree.

william-james88 wrote:How much are kingdom deluxes at Walmart these days?

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.

I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.

Honestly, there's no rhyme and reason to it anymore. Like yes, ever since the pandemic got a good foothold, Hasbro has tied reveals with preorders and maybe they are not revealing later waves because they are unsure about guaranteeing a date with the supply chain being tangled. BUT on the other hand, they did set up preorders for some SS86 toys that aren't even manufactured yet (while we know these are). So that makes no sense. They must be sure as hell that production will be possible on all they set forth to allow such preorders.

To me, the most baffling moment of this year is when there was the wave of Studio Series toys that only half got revealed, so you could preorder the entire wave, but half the wave was TBD. At that point I really felt Hasbro had just lost it. And whatever they lost, they haven't found it.

Anyways, I guess we are all just back to where we were years ago, seeing new toys at retail and buying them.

Munkky wrote: I can't see anything Kingdom related being formally revealed at any upcoming events like PulseCon or Milano Licensing Day, I think the focus will now be exclusively on Victory Saber until A) it's fully funded, or B) the first wave of Legacy is ready to be revealed.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If I'm being honest this set feels a little flat to me. While I appreciate the work that went into retooling Sideswipe for a more G1 look, I feel the steps didn't go far enough. Skywarp just feels off but I'm impressed by the head sculpt. Hopefully down the line, we'll see a proper Generations style Magnaboss set. If you like what you see then pick up the set, but for most this might be an easy pass.

o.supreme wrote:Saw these yesterday. It is interesting that they didn't include the cab swivel/pivot for Road Ranger, so he could be an exact copy of Huffer.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Saw these yesterday. It is interesting that they didn't include the cab swivel/pivot for Road Ranger, so he could be an exact copy of Huffer.

Could you explain that? Road Ranger is the alt-head retool of Huffer and has the cab facing up, while Puffer is made from the Pipes version of the tooling and has the cab facing back.

o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Saw these yesterday. It is interesting that they didn't include the cab swivel/pivot for Road Ranger, so he could be an exact copy of Huffer.

Could you explain that? Road Ranger is the alt-head retool of Huffer and has the cab facing up, while Puffer is made from the Pipes version of the tooling and has the cab facing back.

Sure. The only difference in the Transformation of Kindgom Pipes vs Kingdom Huffer is that they added a swivel on the back of the Cab, so, as you say the cab can face backward. I just thought since Road Ranger was likely produced later, I'm not sure why they just didn't keep the swivel (although unnecessary, since he is as you say a Huffer Repaint (except for the head)), instead of switching back, and eliminating it just t be exactly like Huffer.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Saw these yesterday. It is interesting that they didn't include the cab swivel/pivot for Road Ranger, so he could be an exact copy of Huffer.

Could you explain that? Road Ranger is the alt-head retool of Huffer and has the cab facing up, while Puffer is made from the Pipes version of the tooling and has the cab facing back.

Sure. The only difference in the Transformation of Kindgom Pipes vs Kingdom Huffer is that they added a swivel on the back of the Cab, so, as you say the cab can face backward. I just thought since Road Ranger was likely produced later, I'm not sure why they just didn't keep the swivel (although unnecessary, since he is as you say a Huffer Repaint (except for the head)), instead of switching back, and eliminating it just t be exactly like Huffer.

It's possible that swivel is gang-molded with the Pipes parts, thus for Pipes only. Hey, one less point of breakage.

Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

Emerje

I can provide it rather easily. Problem is you'll be paying quite a bit for it. It's $105 USD before shipping, so somewhere around $150 total.

This listing here is better than how much you'd pay by going through any canadian friend

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F255129114817%3Fh%20...%20SwkIRhOpOK%3C%2Fa%3E%26

Yeah, but then I'd have to give my money to a scalper so I'm trying to resist it. How much to ship loose? It's going to be a little while longer before I can go that rout, as I prepare for my new job money isn't going to be entirely consistent for a few weeks next month.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

Emerje

I can provide it rather easily. Problem is you'll be paying quite a bit for it. It's $105 USD before shipping, so somewhere around $150 total.

This listing here is better than how much you'd pay by going through any canadian friend

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F255129114817%3Fh%20...%20SwkIRhOpOK%3C%2Fa%3E%26

Yeah, but then I'd have to give my money to a scalper so I'm trying to resist it. How much to ship loose? It's going to be a little while longer before I can go that rout, as I prepare for my new job money isn't going to be entirely consistent for a few weeks next month.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:Megatron's final Kingdom card - https://twitter.com/onyxminor/status/1438280848835551232



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RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg

Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg

Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.

That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

AcademyofDrX wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg

Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.

That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.

RiddlerJ wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg

Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.

That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.

I was just watching a youtube review and his copy has stress marks in the same spot so I know it's just not my copy.


The stress marks, on their own wouldn't be, but people are right about the other issues the figure has.

The clear plastic + tight tabbing required makes him seem very fragile
The crappy legs that have loose joints, and just come apart, and are needlessly complicated to transform, AND have the product code right on the front where you can't miss it.
Heck, even the arms have clearance issues because the wheels hit the chest.

All of these seem like minor thing but such a large collection of them make me wonder how rushed this mold was. Was there any quality testing after he was finished?

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.

I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg

Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.

That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.

I was just watching a youtube review and his copy has stress marks in the same spot so I know it's just not my copy.


The stress marks, on their own wouldn't be, but people are right about the other issues the figure has.

The clear plastic + tight tabbing required makes him seem very fragile
The crappy legs that have loose joints, and just come apart, and are needlessly complicated to transform, AND have the product code right on the front where you can't miss it.
Heck, even the arms have clearance issues because the wheels hit the chest.

All of these seem like minor thing but such a large collection of them make me wonder how rushed this mold was. Was there any quality testing after he was finished?

There leg panels at least can be fixed. They won't be 100% solidly tabbed in because the tabs are just too shallow for any sort of purchase, but at least they stay in place better.

The windshield slot is super tight and I'm not sure I want to keep transforming him just because of that.

I have no stress marks on the chest hinges nor do the tires actually hit the chest, I can rotate them 360 degrees just fine.

Lore Keeper wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Apparently wave 4 deluxes have now been spotted at U.S. retail (personally I haven't even seen wave 3 at stores yet despite getting them online weeks ago)

https://www.allspark.com/us-retail-sigh ... -in-texas/

Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Shadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.

??? Where did you pre-order from, there are no sites I am aware of that have official pre-orders available, which is what makes the instore sighting both intriguing, but also frustrating.

There's a website called Toy Snowman. They had a news alert about it here a few days ago. Be warned, if you live in the US, you'll pay a LOT more for it.

Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him...

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him...

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version?

If you want T-30 Waspinator I can go to my local Geek Stuff. Used and complete for the price of a regular deluxe. I'll just give him a ride along Megs.

If you can find either of them to trade, you'd get yourself a deal:
SS86 Gnaw
Kingdom Scorponok
Kingdom Waspinator
SS Barricade
If you cant have any of them, list me a few deluxes you can offer.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him...

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version?

If you want T-30 Waspinator I can go to my local Geek Stuff. Used and complete for the price of a regular deluxe. I'll just give him a ride along Megs.

If you can find either of them to trade, you'd get yourself a deal:
SS86 Gnaw
Kingdom Scorponok
Kingdom Waspinator
SS Barricade
If you cant have any of them, list me a few deluxes you can offer.

A PM will be sent in short order.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Got notice from Amazon that my Grimlock and Mirage two pack should be arriving on Tuesday