Transformers Legacy Bulkhead and Skids Revealed
Wednesday, October 20th, 2021 12:01PM CDT
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by SpaceEagle on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:10pm CDT
Might consider what else that mould will offer us, though...
As for the Skids, FINALLY the g o o d Generations Skids I've been asking for. The alt mode is adorably cuboid, much better than the older Generations Skids imo.
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode
I also hate the overall look of the robot mode but I can understand the appeal of having G1ified versions of characters from other eras but since I have my own Prime collection, this is not needed. I will say this is making me FUCKING scared about Knockout.
As for Skids, ooof, not great. Reeks of cheap corner cutting. Like that rectangle behind his head. It's not even incorporated into the design, it's just there as a lazy bit. The G1 toy didn't have that. And usually Hasbro is able to hide unflattering gaps in their product shots, but I guess that's not a possible task here.
Won't be getting either of these.
Posted by frogbat on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:12pm CDT
Blkkhead… an interesting take and he looks pretty good and fun
the prob with bulkhead is that the og prime toy was awesome and really hard to improve on so I see why they went off on a tangent. Reminds me of earlier chug interpretations of g1 figures such as grapple and inferno.
Posted by Munkky on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:18pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Honestly, they both look like a pile of ass. So glad I didn't sell my Gen skids yet, man I would have regretted it.
Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode
I also hate the overall look of the robot mode but I can understand the appeal of having G1ified versions of characters from other eras but since I have my own Prime collection, this is not needed. I will say this is making me **** scared about Knockout.
As for Skids, ooof, not great. Reeks of cheap corner cutting. Like that rectangle behind his head. It's not even incorporated into the design, it's just there as a lazy bit. The G1 toy didn't have that. And usually Hasbro is able to hide unflattering gaps in their product shots, but I guess that's not a possible task here.
Won't be getting either of these.
while I disagree with how skids looks, there is no comparison, the previous generations was leaps and bounds better, and will remain my go to skids on my shelf. this is great news for me, because so far it looks like I can avoid spending more money on toys for a little while
unless I decide I need to build a certain throne from Tripple Takeover, in which case I may need to buy this Skids
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:21pm CDT
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:28pm CDT
Posted by Gearslide on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:31pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode
I think they're supposed to replicate spare tires that military trucks tend to have stored right there
Posted by Rysquad on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:32pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:39pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The article states twice that this is supposed to be Prime Bulkhead. That is not Prime Bulkhead.
Does the article also mention the word "inspire" or something or other? I can't access it due to site restrictions on my laptop. Because if it does, then they are in the clear a bit.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:43pm CDT
It says that this is "Voyager Prime Universe Bulkhead" and "Bulkhead's design is inspired by The Transformers: Prime series." That's far more explicit that mere deco inspiration.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The article states twice that this is supposed to be Prime Bulkhead. That is not Prime Bulkhead.
Does the article also mention the word "inspire" or something or other? I can't access it due to site restrictions on my laptop. Because if it does, then they are in the clear a bit.
And it only calls out Skids as being "updated with a Generations-style design," not so for Bulkhead.
The only thing in this design that's inspired by Prime Bulkhead is his robot mode head. Everything else is just "generic green military guy", which Bulkhead's design was so much more than.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode
I think they're supposed to replicate spare tires that military trucks tend to have stored right there
Hasbro: includes spare tires directly inspired by real-life model
Fandom: fake parts, bad design
Oshkosh FMTV pictured above (per Pinterest)
I would have liked a Prime Bulkhead more than a G1 version, but I already have a Prime Bulkhead, so I'm covered. Undecided on this one.
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:50pm CDT
Not sure a selects redeco will sway me on this one and cant really see it being good as Optimus either.
Skids...Im guessing like most wfc transformers, G1 remains the true mini MP. Nothing about it seems quality, the axe thing seems so misplaced over a scooter/weapon but glad it comes with mutiple weapons.Then Generations toy might not scream Skids but its a really cool design and toy. I might pick up a selects redeco if its something I dont have already but my moneys going towards the MP over this and I dont get why anyone wouldnt track down the G1 reissue over this.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode
I think they're supposed to replicate spare tires that military trucks tend to have stored right there
Hasbro: includes spare tires directly inspired by real-life model
Fandom: fake parts, bad design
Oshkosh FMTV pictured above (per Pinterest)
I would have liked a Prime Bulkhead more than a G1 version, but I already have a Prime Bulkhead, so I'm covered. Undecided on this one.
Honestly I wish they had made the vehicle look more like the oshkosh there, would make him looks rounder. The issue for me is bulkheads shape. geewun-ified or not, Bulkhead has always been a big roundish boy with stumpy/stocky build. here he is a big box with long legs. literally reminds me of the time for Halloween where I cut a head hole and arm holes out of a carboard box and wrote robot on the front of it in black marker. It just feels wrong for Bulkhead. Again, sumo prime it kinda works, though still too square
Posted by Flashwave on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
Why is this Bulkhead closer to Movie Hound than he is to either of the characters who got named Bulkhead? Its a bit off.
I like it okay, but its not the steroid-Hummer truck mode I was hoping for. I was using Siege Hound as a placeholder though and I am not sure this is actually better than that
Skids looks Straight G1, but I wish he had a bit of body filler like SS86 Jazz got. That spinal column is hollow as heck. Least he doesnt have thr clown shoe feet
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
As for Skids, he seems way simple, but I have yet to have a deluxe Skids in my collection, so if I don't find a suitable alternative, I'll probably pick this up to fill out the roster.
I have to say, this is not a good 1st impression of the Legacy line. If it doesn't improve, I'll be strangely relieved, as I won't have to keep buying TFs.
Posted by griftimus prime on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:12pm CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 12:11pm CDT
Honestly, they both look like a pile of ass
Read my mind. I am a near-exclusive Beast Wars fan, so these don't look the best. They look like extremely high-effort Cyberverse figures. Skids doesn't look too bad, but isn't Bulkhead a fan favourite? Maybe shouldn't have remolded Grapple instead of cooking fresh...
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:33pm CDT
So I'm so going to but it!
As for Skids, he's PERFECT!
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:33pm CDT
I remember people speculating that JP93 was based on a potential Skids. Looks like that's out the window.
Was the older Gen Skids too small in vehicle mode? That's the only thing that makes me kinda want a new one. This one looks fine. Like Skids. But also doesn't blow me away or anything.
Posted by Flashwave on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:37pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Oh, so that's their take on Bulkhead? Uh. Nice idea, but I'll pass.
I remember people speculating that JP93 was based on a potential Skids. Looks like that's out the window.
Was the older Gen Skids too small in vehicle mode? That's the only thing that makes me kinda want a new one. This one looks fine. Like Skids. But also doesn't blow me away or anything.
Gen Skids had wierd clown shoe feet eith no heel and could be backheavy in some poses due to the over the shoulder cannons the V mode was fine and the toy was a lot of fun to play with. I also really liked thr Crosscut and Rally Car redecos it got. Just not the huge but also somehow useless feet
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:40pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers
These were probably designed by Warden given the design time...
I don't really care for these, more power to the people who actually want them.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:41pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:42pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I remember people speculating that JP93 was based on a potential Skids. Looks like that's out the window.
I though that was out the window before we even saw skids, wrong profile for the front of the vehicle.
Also, everyone seems to overlook that JP93 has some shared engineering with SS86 Jazz, specifically the arms/shoulders and how the front fenders of the vehicle rotate under the hood to become his shoulder sockets. It is a feature unique to Jazz/Jackpot so far, that is duplicated on JP93.
Posted by o.supreme on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:46pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers
These were probably designed by Warden given the design time...
I don't really care for these, more power to the people who actually want them.
I kind of doubt it, but we may never really know. I mean Warden's team entered at the tail end of T30 (the last 10 or so toys, you can really tell the difference). It was firmly stated that Kingdom was the last line they "worked on", but they may not have entirely finished Kingdom, similar to how they entered. The New design team may have had more to do with late Kingdom figures than the previous one. I guess the only exception would have been if Skids was planned a couple years prior to have been part of Kingdom, and got pushed off, but Bulkhead is defintely not theirs I would imagine.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:46pm CDT
As for Bulkhead...honestly? That works for me. It's not a 1-to-1 Prime Bulkhead by any means, but he's got the head sculpt, wrecking ball/mace, and the colors down, the alt mode is basically a more realistic version of his Animated alt mode, combining in some AoE Hound influence doesn't ruin it for me, and I'm really glad he isn't just a lazy retool of Grapple or something. It is a bit jarring to see a Bulkhead that isn't round, but I feel like I've recovered from that already at this point, and his round-ness got toned down in RiD 2015 anyway. I do wonder why he has shoulder wheels when no version of Bulkhead nor AoE Hound has those-
...ohhhhh, never mind then.AcademyofDrX wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:I think they're supposed to replicate spare tires that military trucks tend to have stored right there
Hasbro: includes spare tires directly inspired by real-life model
Fandom: fake parts, bad design
Oshkosh FMTV pictured above (per Pinterest)
...he shares some transformation/engineering cues for sure, but I'm pretty sure that's a fully unique mold. I don't see a single shared part.-Kanrabat- wrote:Bulkhead is an Inferno/Grapple remold. Lazy and weird.
So I'm so going to but it!
If it helps to alleviate and/or temper your concerns and expectations at all, current rumors have Knock Out as an SS86 Jazz retool with at least a new head and a full alt mode reshell (no mention of weapons yet, but I assume those'll be different as well, hence the at least), and details came out about Arcee overnight that make her sound the most source-accurate of the Prime gang so far.william-james88 wrote:I will say this is making me **** scared about Knockout.
I wonder if this Energon weapon gimmick means that Armada Screamer's sword(s) are gonna be clear again like the T30 figure, would that upset people?
Posted by First-Aid on October 20th, 2021 @ 1:53pm CDT
That Skids...wow. I know the Geewunners will be thrilled, but to me it looks very amateurish and blocky. Yes, that's the original toy looked like, I get it. But for the love of Primus, it's 2021- can't we streamline it a little bit? I'm really trying hard to stay off my soapbox on "Move On From G1", but this really takes the cake..
Posted by Nemesis Primal on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:00pm CDT
And hey, maybe Energon weapons is a hint that the "Energon Monsters" really are just renamed Energon Terrorcons like I've been suspecting/hoping.
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:01pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:01pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:So....that is essentially in un-Animated version of Animated Bulkhead? Huh. Interesting blocky take on a very non-blocky bot. I'll have to see him in person.
That Skids...wow. I know the Geewunners will be thrilled, but to me it looks very amateurish and blocky. Yes, that's the original toy looked like, I get it. But for the love of Primus, it's 2021- can't we streamline it a little bit? I'm really trying hard to stay off my soapbox on "Move On From G1", but this really takes the cake..
Bulkhead is some sort of pastiche of Animated and Prime Bulkhead with live action movie Hound’s alt mode as seen through a G1 filter (probably the Cybernet Space Cube’s fault). If you’re looking for a more modern take on Skids, there is always the Thrilling 30 figure. This G1 version is just what I’m looking for in my collection.
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:02pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:I gotta disagree with the article. RTS Lugnut was not a 1:1 translation of Animated, but he was in the same family. Bomber. Twin engine, glass bubble nose.
Was just an example, not a perfect comparison
griftimus prime wrote:those weapons suck
Those weapons are the line's main gimmick, as confirmed by hasbro just now, I am currently writing an article about it.
Mistaken_Table wrote: Maybe shouldn't have remolded Grapple instead of cooking fresh...
I think this may be a case of us seeing the redeco/retool before the mold's main use (maybe)
ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers
These were probably designed by Warden given the design time....
I think this is the first batch of Generations toys we are seeing that do not have Warden's involvement.
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:17pm CDT
Introducing the all-NEW Transformers Generations toy line, Transformers: LEGACY! Celebrating an almost 40-year legacy of Transformers, universes collide as fan-favorite characters are brought together from across the multiverse, updated with Generations styling. You can harness the power of Energon, with all-new Energon-infused weapon accessories that come with figures across the line.
While we had good lists of what this line entailed, including the wave distribution, we now have the EAN codes to go with them.
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Optimus Prime 5010993974924
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Shockwave 5010993977024
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core G2 Megatron 5010993977055
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Hotrod 5010993934270
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Iguanus 5010993934263
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Skywarp 5010993934249
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Energon Monster 5010994122942
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Core Soundwave (Repack) 5010994122799
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Wild Rider 5010993971992
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Elita 1 5010993972050
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Knockout Prime 5010993972005
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Tarantulas 5010993972012
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Arcee 5010993974900
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Dragstrip 5010993974917
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Kickback 5010993974849
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Skids 5010993974931
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Energon Monster 5010994120399
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Pointblank 5010994108526
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Crankcase 5010994108595
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Deluxe Deadend 5010994120405
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Jhiaxus 5010993941117
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager S Soundwave (Repack) 5010993941148
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Blaster 5010993941100
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Bulkhead 5010993942107
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Armada Starscr 5010994110291
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Voyager Inferno 5010994110307
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Blitzwing 5010993934294
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Galvatron (repack) 5010993941124
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Laser Optimus Prime 5010993934300
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Leader Dragon Megs 5010994114978
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Motormaster 5010994111366
Transformers Generation Legacy Evolution Metroplex 5010994112578
Transformers Generation Selects Titan Black Zarak 5010993931989
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers
These were probably designed by Warden given the design time....
I think this is the first batch of Generations toys we are seeing that do not have Warden's involvement.
A shame as at least we could have blamed burnout as to why these figures looked the way they did.
The clear Energon weapon gimmick pleases me though, wonder I you can combine them like the ones in the Energon line, like how it was possible to give Energon Starscream a 'Cloud' sized sword.
Posted by jtanimator on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro
New pics of Skids and... Bulkhead! What have they done to you?!
Two things -
I can see the Skids upgrade kits in my head right now.
I see why Prime and Bulkhead are retools. Him being in line with Generations will make me actually buy the Bulkhead "Prime" accuracy not withstanding.
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:o.supreme wrote:I have no strong opinions either way as I wasn't planning on getting any of these, probably will skip most of Legacy anyway... I just wonder how many messages John Warden is getting asking him to come back to Transformers
These were probably designed by Warden given the design time....
I think this is the first batch of Generations toys we are seeing that do not have Warden's involvement.
A shame as at least we could have blamed burnout as to why these figures looked the way they did.
The clear Energon weapon gimmick pleases me though, wonder I you can combine them like the ones in the Energon line, like how it was possible to give Energon Starscream a 'Cloud' sized sword.
There seem to be at least 3 attachment points on Skid's Energon weapon so yeah, I think you can.
Though it would probably look something more like this (top right):
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:40pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Oh, so that's their take on Bulkhead? Uh. Nice idea, but I'll pass.
I remember people speculating that JP93 was based on a potential Skids. Looks like that's out the window.
Was the older Gen Skids too small in vehicle mode? That's the only thing that makes me kinda want a new one. This one looks fine. Like Skids. But also doesn't blow me away or anything.
Gen Skids had wierd clown shoe feet eith no heel and could be backheavy in some poses due to the over the shoulder cannons the V mode was fine and the toy was a lot of fun to play with. I also really liked thr Crosscut and Rally Car redecos it got. Just not the huge but also somehow useless feet
Obviously I'm just thinking about myself and what I'm looking to buy and the pros/cons for me only.
Skids is leaning on someone else right now. But that's alright. The feet are a problem on him, but it's the vehicle mode scale that I'm concerned with. The new figure doesn't wow me, so I don't need to get it. Nothing particularly wrong with it; I just don't need it.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:42pm CDT
I mean, Menasor was by and large the WORST combiner wars combiner (unless you count that horrible liokaiser), which is saying something since a couple of his limbs were some of the best robots, so I wouldn't mind replacing them. guess we will know soon enough.
Posted by CyclonusG1 on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by Mistaken_Table on October 20th, 2021 @ 2:52pm CDT
This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.
*sobs Beast Wars theme*
Posted by Overcracker on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:04pm CDT
Prime Bulkhead was an SUV. Animated Bulhead is the one that had the military truck type alt mode.
But I guess this was clearly designed for Beast Hunters Prime first and modified for Bulkhead as its second use after.
Skids is 100% G1 skids.
That said, think I'll pass on both of these.
I may pick up the Prime usage of the mold though.
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 20th, 2021 @ 3:05pm CDT
Mistaken_Table wrote:Is this all of next year's? If so, I'll only be spending, like, £200 next year.
This almost starts to ease the pain of Kingdom ending.
*sobs Beast Wars theme*
I think the only stuff we don't know is Exclusives at this point but that's it for retail