Transformers Legacy Jhiaxus and Soundwave found at Walmart in the US

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:And that gives me an idea: could Legacy Motormaster be somehow retooled into PM Prime?

New trailer, but keep the base engineering of the cab.

I'm hoping the rumors of Thunderclash from Motormaster will happen, that one seems the better option

I don't think it will. Those rumours were very muddy and not concrete like anything we'd news. So far, all commanders at retail have been unique with the only one reused was Jetfire as a straight redeco exclusive. I forget what the latest rumour on next year's commander is but I don't think it was thunderclash.

Leakers have stated that on the Motormaster tooling there is a Thunderclash head, but that's it. I'd imagine that it'll go the same way as the CW Landfill repaints/remolds and just not be released in any capacity, but as far as we know, the tooling exists for a Thunderclash head

Wasn't the rumours for next year's commander class Armada related? Or was that wishful thinking again?

ZeroWolf wrote:Wasn't the rumours for next year's commander class Armada related? Or was that wishful thinking again?

Kinda half and half. It was reported that the designers said Tidal Wave will be happening, but gave no specifics. Fans took it from there.

Something about finally seeing G1 Soundwave and Blaster at the same size next to each other in stores...

There is no current credible rumor regarding next year's Commander, just speculation.

ZeroWolf wrote:We're long overdue a monstructor, but I get the feeling it's probably low down on the list of priorities

I'd love him to be the next Haslab figure. My hope would be they do the 6 inner bots and just forget about shells. Having 6 larger voyagers with high levels of engineering would be great, which I don't think a Titan class can give us that.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:And that gives me an idea: could Legacy Motormaster be somehow retooled into PM Prime?

New trailer, but keep the base engineering of the cab.

I'm hoping the rumors of Thunderclash from Motormaster will happen, that one seems the better option

I don't think it will. Those rumours were very muddy and not concrete like anything we'd news. So far, all commanders at retail have been unique with the only one reused was Jetfire as a straight redeco exclusive. I forget what the latest rumour on next year's commander is but I don't think it was thunderclash.

Leakers have stated that on the Motormaster tooling there is a Thunderclash head, but that's it. I'd imagine that it'll go the same way as the CW Landfill repaints/remolds and just not be released in any capacity, but as far as we know, the tooling exists for a Thunderclash head

NGL, I would be immensely interested in a thunderclash retool. Wonder if the combined mode would stay, or if they would go all in on a battle station?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:And that gives me an idea: could Legacy Motormaster be somehow retooled into PM Prime?

New trailer, but keep the base engineering of the cab.

I'm hoping the rumors of Thunderclash from Motormaster will happen, that one seems the better option

I don't think it will. Those rumours were very muddy and not concrete like anything we'd news. So far, all commanders at retail have been unique with the only one reused was Jetfire as a straight redeco exclusive. I forget what the latest rumour on next year's commander is but I don't think it was thunderclash.

Leakers have stated that on the Motormaster tooling there is a Thunderclash head, but that's it. I'd imagine that it'll go the same way as the CW Landfill repaints/remolds and just not be released in any capacity, but as far as we know, the tooling exists for a Thunderclash head

NGL, I would be immensely interested in a thunderclash retool. Wonder if the combined mode would stay, or if they would go all in on a battle station?

Well, retooled Stunticons might be the only way we ever get official updates for all 4 Turbomaster cars, so I'd be all for Legacy Turbostator!

Or should their gestalt be called Hyperdrive?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:NGL, I would be immensely interested in a thunderclash retool. Wonder if the combined mode would stay, or if they would go all in on a battle station?

I'd like to think they'd go with a combiner and replace the rest of the Stunticons with whatever Turbomaster is the closest match. We already have Rotorstorm, time to give him some friends. I'd like to see this as Hasbro's follow up to SG if that line ends after this year (as a full line).

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:NGL, I would be immensely interested in a thunderclash retool. Wonder if the combined mode would stay, or if they would go all in on a battle station?

I'd like to think they'd go with a combiner and replace the rest of the Stunticons with whatever Turbomaster is the closest match. We already have Rotorstorm, time to give him some friends. I'd like to see this as Hasbro's follow up to SG if that line ends after this year (as a full line).

Emerje

Down with SG! All hail G1.5!

But seriously, there's some bloody amazing Predator and Turbomaster customs out there based on CW onwards figures. Hasbro could take cues from them and make some bloody impressive figures.

And while I'm not a fan of existing non-combining characters/teams becoming combiners, I'd love to see a Turbomaster combiner based on the Stunticons.

Man the Walmarts around me don't have jack. I may have to hit the one's that are not so close and see.

I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Hey, my Walmart takes forever too, so you're not alone.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Hey, my Walmart takes forever too, so you're not alone.

It's not just Walmart. It's Amazon, GameStop, Toys R Us,
The most shocking is Amazon.

The most recent TF are out at Amazon.com and .jp, but .ca can shove it it seems.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

If Blaster was in Siege he would have had a "Cybertronian mode" too. Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy were more about the "mini-Masterpiece" and "G1 with knees" type figures.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

If Blaster was in Siege he would have had a "Cybertronian mode" too. Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy were more about the "mini-Masterpiece" and "G1 with knees" type figures.

Emerje

Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of Siege Soundwave into Cybertronian Blaster?

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

Wish I could take credit but I've heard that phrase a few times in the past. I have no idea who came up with it and google isn't helping.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

Wish I could take credit but I've heard that phrase a few times in the past. I have no idea who came up with it and google isn't helping.

Emerje

Well, I heard it from you, so take a bow.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

If Blaster was in Siege he would have had a "Cybertronian mode" too. Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy were more about the "mini-Masterpiece" and "G1 with knees" type figures.

Emerje

Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of Siege Soundwave into Cybertronian Blaster?

I want the opposite. A redeco of Kingdom Blaster into an earthmode Soundwave. Since Legacy dropped the ball, it would have to be Selects. I know we have the Netflix figure, but that can't be used again.

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

Wish I could take credit but I've heard that phrase a few times in the past. I have no idea who came up with it and google isn't helping.

Emerje

Well, I heard it from you, so take a bow.

IIRC, the name first saw use back in Titans Return.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

-Kanrabat- wrote:Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of Siege Soundwave into Cybertronian Blaster?

No, you're not the only one. I would love to have a Blaster with some sort of vehicle mode. It would be great even if Blaster and Soundwave had something along the lines of Perceptor's "tank" mode build into their designs from now on. Just a little something for them to be more useful or not look so weird if you displayed them in alt mode. Add a little playability to the toy. Everyone else can turn into alt mode and be useful in some way during a battle but Blaster and Soundwave can't. As it is, they're just glorified Action Masters.

Which is why I like Megatron not being a gun anymore. Sure it's a fun little novelty but that wears off rather quickly. I had my fun with G1 Megatron back in the 80's like most of us did but that was decades ago. I loved it when I got Classics Megatron and he turned into a Nerf gun as it was nostalgic. Then I realized how sucky it was. It turned into a role play item for me. Yay! Back to robot mode for you.

Transformers like that don't "woosh" around in the air. They don't "do do do" along the ground. They don't do anything really. They're worse than a Magikarp's Spash.

*Blaster gets released as vehicles in Universe and Generations Fall of Cybertron*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster should be a boombox! It's in his NAME, darn it! He's a ghetto blaster!"

*Blaster gets released as a boombox in Titans Return*

Fans: "BOOOO! He's too big! Blaster isn't supposed to be a GIANT! He should be a Voyager, darn it!"

*Blaster gets released as a Voyager class boombox in Kingdom/Legacy*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster's too boring! He should have been a vehicle like Siege Soundwave!"

Once the Wave 2 Voyagers come to the UK (unless they're already here and I missed the news), I probably will sell off my Netflix Soundwave and replace it with the Legacy one. I used to hate Siege Soundwave's vehicle mode, but it has grown on me over time. It would still be nice if Soundwave with the Netflix tooling is re-released some day, preferably with the yellowing plastic issue fixed, but I'm not holding my breath for it. That being said, I've heard reports of Legacy Soundwave also having the yellowing issue, so I'm not entirely sure what to do yet.

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

Wish I could take credit but I've heard that phrase a few times in the past. I have no idea who came up with it and google isn't helping.

Emerje

I've used it a few times but I really WANT the G1 molds to be retooled to have elbows and knees. I know that's just me.

Sabrblade wrote:*Blaster gets released as vehicles in Universe and Generations Fall of Cybertron*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster should be a boombox! It's in his NAME, darn it! He's a ghetto blaster!"

*Blaster gets released as a boombox in Titans Return*

Fans: "BOOOO! He's too big! Blaster isn't supposed to be a GIANT! He should be a Voyager, darn it!"

*Blaster gets released as a Voyager class boombox in Kingdom/Legacy*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster's too boring! He should have been a vehicle like Siege Soundwave!"

Aaaah yes, every fandom is pretty much like this, some fans really suck..

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

For once that he got some new mainline toys! He's been ignored by Hasbro for months.
Glad thats over.

I for one think TR Blaster (Takara's of course) is a near perfect rep of the G1 figure. He towers over Soundwave just like his G1 counterpart and is my Neo-G1 figure. The only flaw was having a better looking weapon at least similar to the Legacy release.

Whoever thought about using motormaster's combiner wars compatibility, sorry-

Nemesis Destron wrote:I for one think TR Blaster (Takara's of course) is a near perfect rep of the G1 figure. He towers over Soundwave just like his G1 counterpart and is my Neo-G1 figure. The only flaw was having a better looking weapon at least similar to the Legacy release.

I think the legs are too thick, resulting in the speakers also being really thick.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:*Blaster gets released as vehicles in Universe and Generations Fall of Cybertron*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster should be a boombox! It's in his NAME, darn it! He's a ghetto blaster!"

*Blaster gets released as a boombox in Titans Return*

Fans: "BOOOO! He's too big! Blaster isn't supposed to be a GIANT! He should be a Voyager, darn it!"

*Blaster gets released as a Voyager class boombox in Kingdom/Legacy*

Fans: "BOOOO! Blaster's too boring! He should have been a vehicle like Siege Soundwave!"

Aaaah yes, every fandom is pretty much like this, some fans really suck..

I liked the Legacy, disliked the other for their own reasons.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:"G1 with knees"

The most succinct explanation of those lines I've ever heard.

Wish I could take credit but I've heard that phrase a few times in the past. I have no idea who came up with it and google isn't helping.

Emerje

I've used it a few times but I really WANT the G1 molds to be retooled to have elbows and knees. I know that's just me.

Brawl has knees

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

If Blaster was in Siege he would have had a "Cybertronian mode" too. Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy were more about the "mini-Masterpiece" and "G1 with knees" type figures.

Emerje

Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of Siege Soundwave into Cybertronian Blaster?

I thought of that. The kingdom Blaster is incapable of replicating Seige Soundwave's space barrage alternate form, but who asked him to? Maybe a customizer has done it by now.

Yep. It's been done! https://www.google.com/search?q=siege+soundwave+blaster+custom&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwigoLSD5Mn5AhU0MjQIHQrRBGwQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=siege+soundwave+blaster+custom&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoFCAAQgAQ6BAgAEEM6BAgAEB5QAFjKJmDrKGgFcAB4AIABlAKIAdERkgEGMTMuNS4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=drn6YqCNEbTk0PEPiqKT4AY&bih=734&biw=1517&rlz=1CAICRP_enUS1019&safe=active&ssui=on

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why / chose not to give Blaster a far more different alt-mode like Soundwave? We did get a decent looking alt-mode for the TR line IMO. I guess it was to give fans the closest modern G1 Blaster.

If Blaster was in Siege he would have had a "Cybertronian mode" too. Earthrise, Kingdom, Legacy were more about the "mini-Masterpiece" and "G1 with knees" type figures.

Emerje

Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of Siege Soundwave into Cybertronian Blaster?

I thought of that. The kingdom Blaster is incapable of replicating Seige Soundwave's space barrage alternate form, but who asked him to? Maybe a customizer has done it by now.

Yep. It's been done! https://www.google.com/search?q=siege+soundwave+blaster+custom&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwigoLSD5Mn5AhU0MjQIHQrRBGwQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=siege+soundwave+blaster+custom&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoFCAAQgAQ6BAgAEEM6BAgAEB5QAFjKJmDrKGgFcAB4AIABlAKIAdERkgEGMTMuNS4ymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=drn6YqCNEbTk0PEPiqKT4AY&bih=734&biw=1517&rlz=1CAICRP_enUS1019&safe=active&ssui=on

The link you posted is just a google search, it doesnt give the particular image you are referencing.

RAD CAWG!!!

Looking at some of the early pictures of the Legacy Wave 3 toys from Amazon.UK . Officially will be shown tomorrow morning during the Pulse TF fan event. Crankase appears just to be a retool of Skids...or am I incorrect?

o.supreme wrote:Looking at some of the early pictures of the Legacy Wave 3 toys from Amazon.UK . Officially will be shown tomorrow morning during the Pulse TF fan event. Crankase appears just to be a retool of Skids...or am I incorrect?

Yeah, he's a retool, but I feel he has a lot of new parts.

This Tuesday morning, Hasbro will have a Pulse Fanstream event where they will reveal all of Legacy wave 3 and Studio Series 2022 wave 4. For the Legacy part, we have all those reveals early thanks to some Amazon UK pages that are now taken down.

In these images we see alt modes and accessories for Dead End, Point Blank, TM2 Dragon Megatron, Crankcase, Skullgrin and Inferno.

Let us know if these better photos help you form an opinion on which figures you look forward to owning.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

Not at big box retailers, anyway. I've seen the entire deluxe wave and I have Wildrider and Tarantulas.

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

Not at big box retailers, anyway. I've seen the entire deluxe wave and I have Wildrider and Tarantulas.

Yeah, wave 2 has been appearing at specialty shops for a little while now and it is readily available in certain regions of Europe and Asia.

So, either Hasbro managed to get the name "Pointblank" back after all, or that packaging is not final.

Dragon Megs: Looks good, isn't for me though. Beast Wars just doesn't really interest me except for a few exceptions like Waspinator and Rattrap.

Pointblank: Cool that they actually got the proper western name, though unimportant, and I'm still disappointed they're using the Rebirth/Marvel head instead of the one he usually has, and I'm still worried about the seeming lack of a bicep swivel. I really hope this upcoming stream will clear that up.

Skullgrin: He looks good for the most part, I just hope that there are tracks somewhere underneath that front part of the alt-mode and that either there's a regular head underneath the skull or someone makes one for him. Hell, maybe even give him a head based on TLK Megatron? I hated that design but I think the head could work for Skullgrin with it's big mandible/mask pieces.

Crankcase: I was hoping the hood of the alt-mode would have made his big shoulder cannons and the reason we didn't see it in that earlier photo of him was just that it was a detachable accesory, like the designers or executives were worried that non-fans would find it ugly, so they designed it so it could be detached and become a pair of giant hand held guns instead. Idk, sounds like something Hasbro would do, but apparantly they just completely ditched it unfortunately. Hopefully a third party company will fix that.

Deadend: Feet are ugly but they're not that big of a deal in my opinion, though it's unfortunate that the leg wheels end up on the outside of the shins instead of the inside. Makes me hope that maybe I can just swap the legs at the mushroom peg for the thigh swivel and I'll still be able to get the transformation to work, even if that does mean I'll lose the ankle tilt.

Inferno: Honestly looks to be a pretty disappointing release given that he lacks the fourth flap on his jetpack assembly thing. Doesn't matter too much to me though cause again I don't really care about Beast Wars.

I double checked to make sure...But it's interesting that Tarantulas and Inferno have the BW Predacon faction symbol on their packaging...But Leader TM2 Megatron has the Prime Predacon logo...

As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

Crankcase bot mode looks good. Car mode not so much. If the front is modular so the bits detach for various arm weapons etc a but like the energon/mivue version then that would be cool. Otherwise the cars grill is a but ugly whichever way hasbro orientated it XD it still dint make the car look any better. Also not sure on the facing of the decepticon symbol.


Megatrons dragon mode looks like he went on a diet. Think I'd stick to original toy for him.

I think they all look decent to good for what they are. Right now, my only sure purchase is Inferno, and that's to complete my season 1 cast.

Megatron looks alright, though the wings look flimsy. I'll pass on this, the character doesn't have a strong enough connection for me to be repped in my collection. I wish we got Transmetal T-Rex Megatron instead. But I guess this figure can go with the PoTP Optimal Optimus.

Pointblank is a maybe, I don't care for the vehicle mode or the inferior targetmaster. But I do have Crosshairs and I'm trying to complete Fort Max's crew from the Steelhaven.

Crankcase, Skullgrin and Dead End are all a pass, though not because they're bad. I already have Generations Skullgrin, and though this is an improvement for the most part, he's not important enough for me to drop another $25 on the character. If I can score him for cheap, I will get him. Maybe I can swap the 2 heads. I already decided to pass on the Stunticons, and Crankcase is also just a background character to me.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

He's closer to Jazz than Predaking is to Megatron, at least.

Tracytron54321 wrote:Crankcase: I was hoping the hood of the alt-mode would have made his big shoulder cannons and the reason we didn't see it in that earlier photo of him was just that it was a detachable accesory, like the designers or executives were worried that non-fans would find it ugly, so they designed it so it could be detached and become a pair of giant hand held guns instead. Idk, sounds like something Hasbro would do, but apparantly they just completely ditched it unfortunately. Hopefully a third party company will fix that.

Looks to me from these pics that he does have shoulder cannons, you can see them behind the windshield in the alt mode pic and in both of the back of the box renders, they just aren't deployed in the robot mode pic (where the back kibble seems to be oriented differently) and they're not necessarily big like, say, Skullgrin's back cannons.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

Honestly? The only alt mode parts that end up in the "wrong" place on Legacy Knock Out's bot mode are the front tires and the doors, everything else is a match that just happens to be stylistically different. The only things that TM2 Megs and Prime Predaking share, meanwhile, are "is a dragon" and "has wings in both modes" (and even then, Predaking's wings compress down a good bit).

Agree to disagree. Knockout should have the front wheels hanging off his back and the doors on his forearms.