Transformers Prime Dead End, Shadow Strike Bumblebee, and Airachnid In-Hand Images
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Site sponsor Kapow Toys has been kind enough to supply us with some nice galleries of Transformers Prime Deluxe wave four's Dead End, Shadow Strike Bumblebee, Airachnid. Dead End is wild repaint of Wheeljack with a brand head. Shadow Strike Bumblebee is a straight repaint of RID Bumblebee in a "shadowy" deco. Airachnid is of course a brand new mold. Images mirrored below.
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Posted by Hypershock on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:07am CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:12am CDT
Wasn't going to get him, but if that's true, he's bought.
Still up in the air(heh) over Airachnid, still baffled as to here being shortpacked like that.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:22am CDT
Posted by Lord Onixprime on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:28am CDT
Posted by Hypershock on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:31am CDT
Va'al wrote:I'm still not convinced by Airachnid.
The others are all pass, apart from Steve.
Same, although it looks like the blades can detach and become a sword, which might not be too bad
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:35am CDT
Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.Sabrblade wrote:So, Dark Energon changed Dead End from being like this, eh?
Posted by Doubledealer93 on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:35am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Minor on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:37am CDT
Doubledealer93 wrote:that dead end is bad ass. i don't know why people are complaining about his colors. i like them.
Same here he looks great I will be getting him for sure, Whelljack has a cool mould
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:38am CDT
orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Posted by Hypershock on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:39am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Here we go again......
Posted by Lord Onixprime on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:45am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
We can at least agree they aren't consistent with each other, so much to a point where they could easily be taken as separate universes. They do have as many glaring differences as they do striking similarities.
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:49am CDT
Oh I'm serious.Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?
While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.
Posted by Va'al on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:50am CDT
Rodimus Minor wrote:Doubledealer93 wrote:that dead end is bad ass. i don't know why people are complaining about his colors. i like them.
Same here he looks great I will be getting him for sure, Whelljack has a cool mould
Oh I do like him, but I don't like the same mold twice on my shelf.
It's why I have Banzai-Tron and not Bludgeon (that, and the fact that it was easier to get the former in the UK), for example.
Posted by craggy on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:55am CDT
That Bumblebee isn't half bad actually. That the "black" looks grey-almost silver helps. It makes him look a bit like a bin man. Which is cool.
edit:I acutally held off from Wheeljack in the hopes he'd get a repaint, like the original BB became Hot Shot. The wacky repaints are great in this line. Bring on RAVE MEGATRON!
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 28th, 2012 @ 11:55am CDT
orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.Sabrblade wrote:So, Dark Energon changed Dead End from being like this, eh?
Holy-crap...it still looks bad ass anyway! But the look of PRID Dead End's head, what gives? Is that his mouth open with all that light piping?
Posted by Hypershock on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:12pm CDT
Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.orangeitis wrote:Oh I'm serious.Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?
While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.orangeitis wrote:Oh I'm serious.Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?
While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.
That's why I keep WFC and Prime separated by applying the concept of Time Streams. Same Universal Stream =/= Same Character.
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:18pm CDT
That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.orangeitis wrote:Oh I'm serious.Sabrblade wrote:orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.
Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?
While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.
Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:28pm CDT
What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity.orangeitis wrote:That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.
Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.
The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.
Posted by Sodan-1 on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:38pm CDT
REVISION: Airachnid's not actually that great, but she'll do.
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:41pm CDT
Because one Hasbro representative might not know a thing about how universes, continuities, and universal streams work?Sabrblade wrote:What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity.
We need more solid ground to go by than that. I'm sorry, but we still need some clarification on the matter.
It's not the same simply because Beast Wars/Machines had aspects of both the G1 cartoon and the comics. Not only that, but Beast Wars was done by primitive CGI. We don't have that excuse now.Sabrblade wrote:The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.
Not to mention that Beast Wars had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place from G1(from Autobot/Decepticon to Maximal/Predicon), and Beast Machines had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place from Beast Wars(namely, technorganic shiz). Once there is fiction that explains how WFC/FoC Cybertron got invaded by the nose-snatchers, there's no need to jump to any conclusions.
Posted by Va'al on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:52pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 28th, 2012 @ 12:56pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Nah, Airachnid is a serious pass for me.
More for me to grab then. Dead End is also a must-get, like all things Wheeljack.
Posted by DISCHARGE on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:02pm CDT
All she's missing is a Subway logo behind her?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:12pm CDT
Um, Aaron Archer is Vice President of Intellectual Property Development at Hasbro. He's the man responsible for keeping all the continuities stable and in order, and the one (along with Rik Alvarez) who's completely developed the entire history of the Aligned continuity, from it's ancient past of WFC and the novels, to its present day of TF: Prime, and well beyond into whatever its future may be. He's well above being "one Hasbro representative".orangeitis wrote:Because one Hasbro representative might not know a thing about how universes, continuities, and universal streams work?
We need more solid ground to go by than that. I'm sorry, but we still need some clarification on the matter.
Not everything between the two looks complete different.orangeitis wrote:It's not the same simply because Beast Machines had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place(namely, technorganic shiz). Once there is fiction that explains how WFC/FoC Cybertron got invaded by the nose-snatchers, there's no need to jump to any conclusions.
Posted by craggy on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:12pm CDT
DISCHARGE wrote:5 dollar foot long
All she's missing is a Subway logo behind her?
because she needs to eat a sandwich? I don't get it.
edit: Never mind, I missed the $5 Foot Long bit at the start.
I still think she looks a bit bare. Looks more like an AM toy than a PRID one.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:19pm CDT
And lookey here, all of a sudden everyone loves Dead-End . I remember everyone hating on Dead-end when we first got those convention shots or whatever, haha. I always liked the colours and the mould. Also, You guys argueing about the... logic in the continuity: It would make more sense to argue Wheeljacks appearance in Prime and what it would have been if it were in WFC of FOC, and how that form of WJ is now the same form of Dead-End. Other than that, its just an easy repaint, so the body style and its legitimate connections with lore is pretty much out the window.
Comparing anything to WFC usually makes it look not as good. The WFC and FOC designs are some of the sickest tf designs ever.
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:21pm CDT
that's because in beast wars they traveled to earths past during the time the decepicons and autobots that are on the crashed ship called the ark was still in stasis lock and they actually came across the ship in on episode and to save optimus prime from being destroyed by megatron 2 optimus primal merged his spark with the matrix, i could go on but you get the ideaSabrblade wrote:What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity. I don't believe anything an exec from a toy company says, them saying its the same universe is like them peeing on your back and saying its raining, i'm sorry but they are different universes, hasbro must think we will believe anything they throw at usorangeitis wrote:That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.
Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.
The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.
maybe you should go and watch the show for a better idea
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:24pm CDT
Their art styles are still vastly different from each other, yet everyone's A-OK with that. Thus, the argument that WFC/FOC and Prime having different art styles makes them incompatible is invalid.Ultra Markus wrote:that's because in beast wars they traveled to earths past during the time the decepicons and autobots that are on the crashed ship called the ark was still in stasis lock and they actually came across the ship in on episode and to save optimus prime from being destroyed by megatron 2 optimus primal merged his spark with the matrix, i could go on but you get the idea
maybe you should go and watch the show for a better idea
Posted by MINDVVIPE on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Their art styles are still vastly different from each other, yet everyone's A-OK with that. Thus, the argument that WFC/FOC and Prime having different art styles makes them incompatible is invalid.
They could have also evolved over time from landing on other planets and taking new alt mode forms, and then theres bodily upgrades, and so on.
Posted by Ravage XK on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:30pm CDT
Exactly. Just because the two have different art styles doesn't mean they can't fit together. We have no idea what kind of changes could have occurred over the span of eons existing between the two.MINDVVIPE wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Their art styles are still vastly different from each other, yet everyone's A-OK with that. Thus, the argument that WFC/FOC and Prime having different art styles makes them incompatible is invalid.
They could have also evolved over time from landing on other planets and taking new alt mode forms, and then theres bodily upgrades, and so on.
And, I posted several pics before of things that don't look all that different between the two. The Nemesis, the Core, and even Cybertron itself are all the same in each version.
Posted by craggy on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:31pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:
And lookey here, all of a sudden everyone loves Dead-End . I remember everyone hating on Dead-end when we first got those convention shots or whatever, haha. I always liked the colours and the mould. Also, You guys argueing about the... logic in the continuity: It would make more sense to argue Wheeljacks appearance in Prime and what it would have been if it were in WFC of FOC, and how that form of WJ is now the same form of Dead-End. Other than that, its just an easy repaint, so the body style and its legitimate connections with lore is pretty much out the window..
I liked Dead End from the start too. Because hezzz awzzzzome zzzauczzzze. (BTW 3rd Parties, a Waspinator head wouldn't go amiss.)
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:42pm CDT
Of course, I won't be seeing any of these any time soon. My area is overloaded on Wave 1 Bumblebees.
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:45pm CDT
It doesn't matter who it is. And if he's in charge of continuity and declares two contradicting fictions to be in the same universe, he's in the wrong, not the universes.Sabrblade wrote:Um, Aaron Archer is Vice President of Intellectual Property Development at Hasbro. He's the man responsible for keeping all the continuities stable and in order, and the one (along with Rik Alvarez) who's completely developed the entire history of the Aligned continuity, from it's ancient past of WFC and the novels, to its present day of TF: Prime, and well beyond into whatever its future may be. He's well above being "one Hasbro representative".
One authority can not just shoehorn their own vision into the canon if the canon contradicts them, even if they wrote it themselves. It's just not how fiction works. Unless for instance you think the pope can decide biblical canon... if so, we're just on two different pages here.
That's all well and good, but it don't have anything to do with aesthetic relationships between characters of the different mediums. Even considering all of your arguments, there still is not enough evidence to justify assuming that WFC designs=ancient past and Prime designs=present day in both universes.Sabrblade wrote:Not everything between the two looks complete different.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 28th, 2012 @ 1:51pm CDT
Um, he created the Aligned continuity's history and timeline first, and then the two parties behind the games and show created their works based on what he and Alvarez created. The games and show are adaptations of his work, not vice-versa.orangeitis wrote:It doesn't matter who it is. And if he's in charge of continuity and declares two contradicting fictions to be in the same universe, he's in the wrong, not the universes.
One authority can not just shoehorn their own vision into the canon if the canon contradicts them, even if they wrote it themselves. It's just not how fiction works. Unless for instance you think the pope can decide biblical canon... if so, we're just on two different pages here.
Plus, you keep saying that there two contradict each other, yet there's little to say that they do. As the Beast Era has proven, the argument of "different art styles = incompatibility" is invalid. There has yet to be anything that cannot be rationally explained between the two.
Posted by Stumpybot on May 28th, 2012 @ 2:11pm CDT
the difference in representation between videogame, book, prime and rescue bots is down to artistic license. Its entirely possible that Prime Optimus is the same guy as WFC Prime, its just seeing the world through a different set of eyes. Same timeline, interpretation skewed to suit the medium
trotting out wfc/foc designs every time a character comes out and demanding the difference be explained is counter productive, it just is what it is. If it confuses to the point somebody get angry i suggest they relax and let the pretty toys take their mind off it
Personally i love the look of dead end. The box bio does say he's spent years near dark energon and its mutated him, so that explains the deco sufficiently for me
Posted by MINDVVIPE on May 28th, 2012 @ 2:23pm CDT
Also, just wanted to add regarding the continuity debate; My Prime Arcee in my collection is not Arcee but really Chromia. So you see, it doesn't really matter too much if you wanted to just make your own continuity with the figures you have. I have more fun that way.
Posted by Anonymous on May 28th, 2012 @ 2:28pm CDT
I was under the impression that WFC was made with being in a Primax cluster universe in mind. Can you cite the source that states otherwise?Sabrblade wrote:Um, he created the Aligned continuity's history and timeline first, and then the two parties behind the games and show created their works based on what he and Alvarez created. The games and show are adaptations of his work, not vice-versa.
There's a lot that says they contradict each other. Just to name a couple, dark energon in WFC is a manufacturable product that was created from normal energon, which dark energon in Prime is the blood of Unicron. And Prime Megatron isn't infused with dark energon as he is in Prime. There are many many other errors between Exodus, WFC/FoC, and Prime if one considers them in the same universe. Trying to retcon in answers to them all would simply be too irrational.Sabrblade wrote:Plus, you keep saying that there two contradict each other, yet there's little to say that they do. As the Beast Era has proven, the argument of "different art styles = incompatibility" is invalid. There has yet to be anything that cannot be rationally explained between the two.
I'm not referring to different art styles. I'm referring to aesthetics. G1 Optimus looked fairly the same in his appearance in Beast Wars than in the G1 cartoon. Same aesthetics. Not so in WFC to Prime, where he looks completely different.
Again, it's just a baseless assertion for now to assume WFC designs predate Prime designs in-universe. We need more information from Hasbro if we are to resolve this.
Posted by WarzoneBeta on May 28th, 2012 @ 2:35pm CDT
THATS AWESOME!
Posted by Evil Eye on May 28th, 2012 @ 2:47pm CDT
Dead End looks positively evil. I like him.
Bumblebee doesn't look too bad either!
Posted by First-Aid on May 28th, 2012 @ 3:20pm CDT
BACON.
That is all. Thank you.
Posted by prmlove1 on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by dinojack86 on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:06pm CDT
Posted by RAcast on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:23pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Dead End is Halloween incarnate.
And I love every inch of him. I was on the fence, as many others were...but that bio is just makes him TOO cool.
Posted by necr0blivion on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:31pm CDT
Ravage XK wrote:The more I look at Arachnid the more of a pass she is. Just looks like you clip her legs together plug her arms by her side and lay her on her face to transform.
This sounds like a fan-fic in the making...
I will agree with some other posters, the robot mode isn't very appealing or maybe it's these pictures of her. Also the lack of yellow paint apps on her is making the overall figure bland. Guess we'll know in a few weeks.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on May 28th, 2012 @ 4:39pm CDT
when WfC first hit the news, the game developers and hasbro said it was a prequal to g1, not prime. the universe mmo was stated to be the prime universe, but with other elements.
i think people are confusing that info. however i didnt make botcon this year, so if mr archer said otherwise, well hes the high chief muckity-muck at hasbro, he can do what he wants. however the character designs, the characters themselves (for example) match up more with g1, even if the story doesnt quite. that being said, the g1 story never matched up with itself much anyway.
bottom line, theyre your toys, play with them how you want.
not back to topic, wow im so dissapointed in airachnid
Posted by MGrotusque on May 28th, 2012 @ 5:01pm CDT
I went roaming around town today wondering if i would see him in any stores. To no avail. But what i did see was oceans of BB's clogging the pegs. I haven't gone hunting for figures in a while and now i remember why. Each store was clogged with, and i'm not lying, 30 too 40 BB's on the shelves and that was it. Nothing but BB's. Brutal!
Makes me wonder if i'll ever see a Dead End at retail with that much overstock of BB's. Will probably get Dead End online instead.
Airachnid is an easy pass for me. TERRIBLE bot mode....the arms and hands are ridiculous. There's no excuse for making her that stiff and rigid in this day and age.