Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview
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Comics and entertainment website Comic Book Resources were able to have a lengthy chat with producer and head writer for the current animated TV series Transformers: Robots in Disguise, Adam Beechen. They touched upon the presence of Grimlock, the placing of the series in terms of the wider Transformers universe, the cast, Optimus Prime and more - read the whole piece here, and some selected passages below!
The producer and head writer for Cartoon Network’s “Robots in Disguise,” Beechen shared with SPINOFF how he’s working to open up Transformers to a younger audience while building on the stories that have come before. He also explained what it’s like to tap “Batman Beyond’s” Will Friedel as the voice of Bumblebee, teased the show’s long-term mysteries about the fate of Optimus Prime, and more.
Spinoff Online: Over the past few years, Hasbro has kept the continuity from all their various “Transformers” franchises unified in one way or another between TV and video games and comics. This show is a step forward in that idea since it takes the premise past the “Autobots and Decepticons crash-landed on Earth.” What’s it like to be writing what is the forefront of the canon in some respect?
Adam Beechen: I think that I had the benefit coming in of never having worked on the Transformers franchise before. I didn’t write for “Prime.” And so I wasn’t as emotionally tied to all of the continuity elements that a lot of the people who had worked on that show had been. And it’s great that they are because they’re a wonderful resource for me to find out background info I need. But my main goal coming into this series was, “Let’s make this a show for Bumblebee. Let’s give him the exposure he hasn’t really had in a brand new way.” And as part of that, we get to introduce a bunch of new characters for a new generation of viewers that they can get attached to. It’s still part of the larger Transformers universe, but you don’t have to know 30 years of history to enjoy them, appreciate them and just have fun.
And the show then can serve as a bridge tonally between “Rescue Bots” and “Transformers Prime.” The kids aging out of “Rescue Bots” can jump onto “Robots in Disguise” and still feel at home. But at the same time, they have a little bit more serious adventures with a little bit higher stakes. And then they can ease into all the giant continuity that the series have put together.
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Is it liberating as a showrunner when you work with a company like Hasbro and you have a guaranteed order for a long run on the series?
It doesn’t so much change your approach, but you know how many episodes you have, so you pace out the story you’re telling accordingly. Typically what happens in a situation like this is that at the start of the season you sit down with the brand team and find out what their plans are in terms of the upcoming seasons – as in calendar seasons – for what toys they’re releasing when and what kind of story elements they’d like to see in the upcoming episodes. You have that meeting and plan out episodes according to that, but doing so in a way that tells the best possible stories. You’re not just cramming toys in there. You want to tell a cool story and help with what they’re doing as well. And it just runs from there.
It’s pretty rare that a brand will come back to you in the middle of your season and say, “By the way, we’ve come up with a new figure that will be on the shelves of the toy stores tomorrow. Get it into the next episode!” There’s not any time for things like that. So after that initial meeting, you’re well aware of what you want to do over the course of the season and how to make everyone happy. From there, you’re free to tell the coolest stories you can.
And what about the comics side of all this? Frequently, there will be a kid-friendly comic version that ties into the show in a way that fleshes out what we see on screen. Is that the case for July’s series from IDW?
We’re very aware of what’s happening with the comics, and we love what IDW has done with this world. That factors into our thinking, and we’ve had the good fortune of having one of the key comic book writers – Mairghread Scott, who you may or may not be familiar with – work with us. Mairghread was the script coordinator on our series, and she graduated quickly to being one of the key writers on the show. She is a living repository of all things Transformers, and so she knows what’s gone on across every single medium the characters have ever appeared in. As we were working, she’d say, “The comics have already been there. You may want to do something different with an episode.” Or she may say to the comic editors, “The show did this thing, so it would be kind of cool if you tied it in this way.” I can’t say for sure how all the comics will reflect the series, but we’re definitely aware of each other as we go forward
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Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694503)
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:17pm CDT
I like how the article says "years after the events of the films and Transformers Prime" as if the movies are in the same continuity. 
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694507)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
" Over the past few years, Hasbro has kept the continuity from all their various “Transformers” franchises unified in one way or another between TV and video games and comics." is a good one, too. About the only place that's true is in how TFWIKI decides to smush certain versions of characters onto the same page, no matter how they don't actually belong together, like the WFC and Prime characters, just because Hasbro has made this inaccurate claim.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 4th, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:I like how the article says "years after the events of the films and Transformers Prime" as if the movies are in the same continuity.
" Over the past few years, Hasbro has kept the continuity from all their various “Transformers” franchises unified in one way or another between TV and video games and comics." is a good one, too. About the only place that's true is in how TFWIKI decides to smush certain versions of characters onto the same page, no matter how they don't actually belong together, like the WFC and Prime characters, just because Hasbro has made this inaccurate claim.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694744)
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 4th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
Yeah, someone should talk to TFWiki about this. It's a great site, but this is so far the main complaint I have about it.
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 4th, 2015 @ 11:10pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:I like how the article says "years after the events of the films and Transformers Prime" as if the movies are in the same continuity.
" Over the past few years, Hasbro has kept the continuity from all their various “Transformers” franchises unified in one way or another between TV and video games and comics." is a good one, too. About the only place that's true is in how TFWIKI decides to smush certain versions of characters onto the same page, no matter how they don't actually belong together, like the WFC and Prime characters, just because Hasbro has made this inaccurate claim.
Yeah, someone should talk to TFWiki about this. It's a great site, but this is so far the main complaint I have about it.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694774)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 5th, 2015 @ 12:13am CDT
Let. It. Go, guys.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 5th, 2015 @ 12:13am CDT
MoonHelix-888 wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:I like how the article says "years after the events of the films and Transformers Prime" as if the movies are in the same continuity.
" Over the past few years, Hasbro has kept the continuity from all their various “Transformers” franchises unified in one way or another between TV and video games and comics." is a good one, too. About the only place that's true is in how TFWIKI decides to smush certain versions of characters onto the same page, no matter how they don't actually belong together, like the WFC and Prime characters, just because Hasbro has made this inaccurate claim.
Yeah, someone should talk to TFWiki about this. It's a great site, but this is so far the main complaint I have about it.
Let. It. Go, guys.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694836)
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 5th, 2015 @ 4:29am CDT
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 5th, 2015 @ 4:29am CDT
Ok, ok. Was a minor gripe anyway.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694931)
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:15am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:15am CDT
Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle, or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series? 
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694933)
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:19am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:19am CDT
Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle, or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694937)
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle mode , or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1694981)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 5th, 2015 @ 11:27am CDT
The way it looks, to me, is that the vampire bat form is his robot mode. Those big circles on the wings and the fact that his arms aren't attached to his wings are my basis for this. But it's purely conjecture. I have a lot more episodes to watch though.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 5th, 2015 @ 11:27am CDT
psj333 wrote:Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle mode , or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
The way it looks, to me, is that the vampire bat form is his robot mode. Those big circles on the wings and the fact that his arms aren't attached to his wings are my basis for this. But it's purely conjecture. I have a lot more episodes to watch though.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695008)
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 12:22pm CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 5th, 2015 @ 12:22pm CDT
So basically, what you`re trying to tell me, NuclearConvoy, is that the circles attached to his wings are wheels, meaning that Nightstrike is very likely to have a vehicle mode.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695027)
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 5th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
You literally just reiterated the exact same information NuclearConvoy just answered you with.
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 5th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
psj333 wrote:So basically, what you`re trying to tell me, NuclearConvoy, is that the circles attached to his wings are wheels, meaning that Nightstrike is very likely to have a vehicle mode.
You literally just reiterated the exact same information NuclearConvoy just answered you with.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695056)
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 5th, 2015 @ 2:34pm CDT
Seriously, people...
...there's other facepalm images to choose from.
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 5th, 2015 @ 2:34pm CDT
Seriously, people...
...there's other facepalm images to choose from.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695272)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 5th, 2015 @ 11:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 5th, 2015 @ 11:53pm CDT
Oh, for spark's sake.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695350)
Posted by smdudajr on June 6th, 2015 @ 7:46am CDT
Actually it looks like Nightstrike could be a possible remold of TFP Skystalker. I understand that the "wheel" placement is in a different spot, but just a quick remold of the head and some paint.
Posted by smdudajr on June 6th, 2015 @ 7:46am CDT
psj333 wrote:Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle mode , or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
Actually it looks like Nightstrike could be a possible remold of TFP Skystalker. I understand that the "wheel" placement is in a different spot, but just a quick remold of the head and some paint.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695352)
Posted by dreadwing95 on June 6th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
that actually sounds pretty sweet. hope we get a toy like that
Posted by dreadwing95 on June 6th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
smdudajr wrote:psj333 wrote:Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle mode , or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
Actually it looks like Nightstrike could be a possible remold of TFP Skystalker. I understand that the "wheel" placement is in a different spot, but just a quick remold of the head and some paint.
that actually sounds pretty sweet. hope we get a toy like that
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Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 6th, 2015 @ 8:17am CDT
Link please?
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 6th, 2015 @ 8:17am CDT
smdudajr wrote:psj333 wrote:Does Nightstrike really have a vehicle mode , or does he transform into a human, much like Filch, since that he hasn't transform yet in the series?
Actually it looks like Nightstrike could be a possible remold of TFP Skystalker. I understand that the "wheel" placement is in a different spot, but just a quick remold of the head and some paint.
Link please?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695393)
Posted by psj333 on June 6th, 2015 @ 9:52am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 6th, 2015 @ 9:52am CDT
NuclearConvoy, you once said that the vampire mode is Nightstrike`s robot mode. Also, you also said that the circles attached to his wings are appeared to be wheels. Is it true that those circles are really wheels? If so, does that mean that he will the first flying animal to have a vehicle mode? If he does, is he most likely going to be some kind of a plane, as opposed to Filch?
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 6th, 2015 @ 10:14am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 6th, 2015 @ 10:14am CDT
No one know anything that is "true" about this. We're all guessing, making assumptions. Stop asking for facts when we have none. None of us has any connections with this show to answer to questions you keep asking. We're all just ordinary fans who don't work on the show.psj333 wrote:NuclearConvoy, you once said that the vampire mode is Nightstrike`s robot mode. Also, you also said that the circles attached to his wings are appeared to be wheels. Is it true that those circles are really wheels? If so, does that mean that he will the first flying animal to have a vehicle mode? If he does, is he most likely going to be some kind of a plane, as opposed to Filch?
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Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2015 @ 4:38am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2015 @ 4:38am CDT
Much like the last report we had from French TV listings website Programme-TV.com, we have some further details on the remaining episode of the first season of Transformers: Robots in Disguise - and they have more spoilers than you can shake a Decepticon Hunter at.
Feel free to proceed below to read our translation of the synopses (found here) for episodes 22 to 26, airing on Wednesdays June 24th and July 1st on Canal J, but you have been warned!
Feel free to proceed below to read our translation of the synopses (found here) for episodes 22 to 26, airing on Wednesdays June 24th and July 1st on Canal J, but you have been warned!
22. Sworn Friends
Grimlock discovers and gets closer to another Dinobot fugitive, letting them escape, resulting in destruction and fear among the humans. Our heroes must join forces to stop them. Meanwhile, Denny builds a camper for Russell, afraid of his dad's tacky decorative taste.
23. Queen Bee
Sideswipe finds a solitary Autobot on mission on Earth, apparently also sent by Optimus. The newcomer accepts to join forces with Bumblebee's small team to defeat a Decepticon who bears striking resemblance to a queen bee.
24. Ghosts and Impostors
Bumblebee decides to show his team planet Earth's sights. He leads them to a Far West ghost town, but they encounter an Decepticon capable of mimicking any and every shape.
25. Optimus Returns
The threat looming over Earth becomes clear, and the Primes decide to send Optimus back, even though his training is not complete. Meanwhile, Steeljaw's gang allows a new, formidable enemy to also arrive on Earth: Megatronus.
26. Megatronus' Revenge
Megatronus gets ready to destroy Earth, but thanks to Bumblebee's strategy, the loyalty and courage of this team, and with the assistance of a particularly powerful Optimus, our heroes are able to defeat him.
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Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 8th, 2015 @ 5:56am CDT
Posted by Lockdownhunter on June 8th, 2015 @ 5:56am CDT
I rather like these.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1695906)
Posted by psj333 on June 8th, 2015 @ 7:39am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 8th, 2015 @ 7:39am CDT
More episodes for Robots In Disguise, Va'al? Well then, good. I am glad to hear that! However, I do have a interesting feeling concerning new character debuts for these upcoming episodes. In episode 22, Grimlock decides to free a Decepticon prisoner just because he is a Dinobot, no matter which side he belongs to. Will this Dinobot possess a vehicle mode, as opposed to Grimlock? In episode 23, the new Decepticon is a Queen Bee. Does this mean the return of Waspinator, or an additional female Decepticon besides Filch? Does the Queen Bee have a vehicle mode? In episode 25 and 26, Megatronus will be beaten by Optimus and taken to prison by Bumblebee in episode 26, meaning that Megatronus is not the main bad guy for the series. In other words, Megatron is likely the main boss, and not Steeljaw or Megatronus! I was hoping to watch these episodes online once they hit dailymotion.com. When will they be available on dailymotion.com?
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Posted by pie-man on June 8th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
Posted by pie-man on June 8th, 2015 @ 7:54am CDT
Seems like Windblade is the autobot Sideswipe encounters/will encounter in E23.
Quite excited, and eagerly awaiting the rest of the season. Still curious about how the events of the comic's last page (Magnus, Arcee & Bulkhead being on earth) plays out in the show.
Quite excited, and eagerly awaiting the rest of the season. Still curious about how the events of the comic's last page (Magnus, Arcee & Bulkhead being on earth) plays out in the show.
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Posted by Randomhero on June 8th, 2015 @ 8:12am CDT
They'll play out the same way IDWs Beast Hunters comic did with Prime. They won't.
Posted by Randomhero on June 8th, 2015 @ 8:12am CDT
pie-man wrote:Seems like Windblade is the autobot Sideswipe encounters/will encounter in E23.
Quite excited, and eagerly awaiting the rest of the season. Still curious about how the events of the comic's last page (Magnus, Arcee & Bulkhead being on earth) plays out in the show.
They'll play out the same way IDWs Beast Hunters comic did with Prime. They won't.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 8:58am CDT
Yeah, the comics may be related to the show, but they don't dictate the directions it will go in. It's the show that'll influence the comics rather than vice-versa.Randomhero wrote:pie-man wrote:Seems like Windblade is the autobot Sideswipe encounters/will encounter in E23.
Quite excited, and eagerly awaiting the rest of the season. Still curious about how the events of the comic's last page (Magnus, Arcee & Bulkhead being on earth) plays out in the show.
They'll play out the same way IDWs Beast Hunters comic did with Prime. They won't.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
About the finale eps, what is it with Hasbro Studios TF cartoons seemingly going nowhere for the bulk of their first seasons, only to to hastily and awkwardly shift into something important at the last minute for their season 1 finales?
Okay, sure, we did get some warnings from Optimus in this season, but they were so infrequent and sporadic as to have felt thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been so much more build up going on had the show decided to not focus solely on character-focusing fillers that rarely gave any attention to something resembling an ongoing plot. Forcing Megatronus into the story so late in the game just feels like the makers were like "Oh crud, we spent so much of this season doing random stuff we forgot to work in a final boss for it all to lead up to! Quick, throw something together and toss it into the end! Don't worry, we'll make it fit in somehow!" This is Unicron's hasty debut in Prime all over again. At least Dr. Morocco was introduced ahead of time in Rescue Bots season 1, but that final two-parter likewise could have had some better build up done for it.
Okay, sure, we did get some warnings from Optimus in this season, but they were so infrequent and sporadic as to have felt thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been so much more build up going on had the show decided to not focus solely on character-focusing fillers that rarely gave any attention to something resembling an ongoing plot. Forcing Megatronus into the story so late in the game just feels like the makers were like "Oh crud, we spent so much of this season doing random stuff we forgot to work in a final boss for it all to lead up to! Quick, throw something together and toss it into the end! Don't worry, we'll make it fit in somehow!" This is Unicron's hasty debut in Prime all over again. At least Dr. Morocco was introduced ahead of time in Rescue Bots season 1, but that final two-parter likewise could have had some better build up done for it.
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Posted by Starsaber468 on June 8th, 2015 @ 10:59am CDT
Posted by Starsaber468 on June 8th, 2015 @ 10:59am CDT
SEASON FINALE ALREADY! I HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED HALF WAY THROUGH THE EPISODES SOMEONE HELP ME CETCH UP
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696059)
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2015 @ 4:30pm CDT
Give the Prime Unicron arc some credit, they built up his presence over four episodes, molded his lore and importance through the season a little bit better than this series, and had it segue directly into the second season and its story arc. This finale is apparently shoving its villain into all of two episodes and it looks like the problem will be resolved at the end of the season without a whole lot of repercussion. Of course, this is mere speculation, but if the finale is anything like the pilot, this is gonna be really cringe-worthy.
P.S: Ultra Magnus, Bulkhead, and Arcee are in the comics? Well then, I guess we have a few hints as to which Prime characters are returning next season.
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2015 @ 4:30pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:About the finale eps, what is it with Hasbro Studios TF cartoons seemingly going nowhere for the bulk of their first seasons, only to to hastily and awkwardly shift into something important at the last minute for their season 1 finales?
Okay, sure, we did get some warnings from Optimus in this season, but they were so infrequent and sporadic as to have felt thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been so much more build up going on had the show decided to not focus solely on character-focusing fillers that rarely gave any attention to something resembling an ongoing plot. Forcing Megatronus into the story so late in the game just feels like the makers were like "Oh crud, we spent so much of this season doing random stuff we forgot to work in a final boss for it all to lead up to! Quick, throw something together and toss it into the end! Don't worry, we'll make it fit in somehow!" This is Unicron's hasty debut in Prime all over again. At least Dr. Morocco was introduced ahead of time in Rescue Bots season 1, but that final two-parter likewise could have had some better build up done for it.
Give the Prime Unicron arc some credit, they built up his presence over four episodes, molded his lore and importance through the season a little bit better than this series, and had it segue directly into the second season and its story arc. This finale is apparently shoving its villain into all of two episodes and it looks like the problem will be resolved at the end of the season without a whole lot of repercussion. Of course, this is mere speculation, but if the finale is anything like the pilot, this is gonna be really cringe-worthy.
P.S: Ultra Magnus, Bulkhead, and Arcee are in the comics? Well then, I guess we have a few hints as to which Prime characters are returning next season.
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Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 8th, 2015 @ 5:33pm CDT
Hope that Ultra Magnus gets a new design and isn't just a prime clone.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 8th, 2015 @ 5:33pm CDT
PrymeStriker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:About the finale eps, what is it with Hasbro Studios TF cartoons seemingly going nowhere for the bulk of their first seasons, only to to hastily and awkwardly shift into something important at the last minute for their season 1 finales?
Okay, sure, we did get some warnings from Optimus in this season, but they were so infrequent and sporadic as to have felt thrown in as an afterthought. There could have been so much more build up going on had the show decided to not focus solely on character-focusing fillers that rarely gave any attention to something resembling an ongoing plot. Forcing Megatronus into the story so late in the game just feels like the makers were like "Oh crud, we spent so much of this season doing random stuff we forgot to work in a final boss for it all to lead up to! Quick, throw something together and toss it into the end! Don't worry, we'll make it fit in somehow!" This is Unicron's hasty debut in Prime all over again. At least Dr. Morocco was introduced ahead of time in Rescue Bots season 1, but that final two-parter likewise could have had some better build up done for it.
Give the Prime Unicron arc some credit, they built up his presence over four episodes, molded his lore and importance through the season a little bit better than this series, and had it segue directly into the second season and its story arc. This finale is apparently shoving its villain into all of two episodes and it looks like the problem will be resolved at the end of the season without a whole lot of repercussion. Of course, this is mere speculation, but if the finale is anything like the pilot, this is gonna be really cringe-worthy.
P.S: Ultra Magnus, Bulkhead, and Arcee are in the comics? Well then, I guess we have a few hints as to which Prime characters are returning next season.
Hope that Ultra Magnus gets a new design and isn't just a prime clone.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 11:05pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2015 @ 11:05pm CDT
No, I won't. It came out of nowhere without warning, hastily switching from a plot surrounding the development of Synthetic Energon that was just getting underway before it was abruptly interrupted by some apocalyptic prophecy that everyone (except us viewers) was somehow already aware of as though an episode had been skipped in the meantime or something... whereas this show at least has had Optimus drop a few hints of something forthcoming every now and then. And yet, those hints were too far and few as to properly build up this season finale that much better.PrymeStriker wrote:Give the Prime Unicron arc some credit,
One episode, you mean. He got one episode of building up to his debut, while the other three had his presence exposed and expressed with no more lead-in (as they really couldn't build up to him anymore since he was already around by that point).PrymeStriker wrote:they built up his presence over four episodes,
What, by saying his name in passing in the rare instances of explaining the Dark Energon's reputation? That's even less than what this show's season has done since RID has at least let us know that something is coming, whereas Prime never even hinted at the idea of Unicron coming prior to episode 23.PrymeStriker wrote:molded his lore and importance through the season a little bit better than this series,
That's irrelevant to the point I was making, which was in regards to the story contents that precede, not succeed, the finale.PrymeStriker wrote:and had it segue directly into the second season and its story arc.
PrymeStriker wrote:P.S: Ultra Magnus, Bulkhead, and Arcee are in the comics? Well then, I guess we have a few hints as to which Prime characters are returning next season.
NuclearConvoy wrote:Hope that Ultra Magnus gets a new design and isn't just a prime clone.
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Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2015 @ 11:38pm CDT
Well, you don't have to spell out that an impending doom is coming for it to be "built up." Viewers made the connection between a crapton of relics gravitating to earth like a magnet and Dark Energon's constant use to Unicron's presence on Earth. The recurring theme of season one, and into the next seasons, is an underlying question of "why is everything here, on Earth?" "Why are Cybertron and Earth so closely bonded?" "What's so important about this planet?" In the end, we find that out without them having to constantly shove the question up our nose. That just gets annoying after a while. For example, Optimus literally showed up last episode to say "oh, by the way, something's coming and I don't know what it is, kkthxbai."
It's like a lot of the later Doctor Who arcs that they shoved down our throat to lead nowhere. "He will knock four times" every half hour, "silence will fall when the question is asked" every 10 minutes, etc. Earlier arcs, however, were subtle and lead into the finale leaning on the expectation that the viewer figured out the clues and plot points themselves. Sure, every so often they'd be like "what is Bad Wolf?" "What's Torchwood?" "How does a planet just disappear?" but most of the time, you had to look for the thread. Bad Wolf written in German on a "bomb" or spray painted on the TARDIS, creatures casually stating in conversation that they're here because their home world is "lost." For me, those are the stronger forms of moving your arc along.
Was the Dark Energon/Unicron arc perfect? No. But it had the right pacing and the right plot threads to connect to what the season finale was intended to reveal. Not that Unicron was the big mean bad guy of the season all along, that wasn't the priority. It revealed Earth's significance to Cybertronian lore and its long history with its sister planet, a question we were asking throughout the series, in the beginning of the series, and frankly, throughout a lot of the franchise as a whole.
I would think that the events that precede it are just as important as those that succeed it, especially depending on if you're hastily wrapping up your story at the last minute or intending on continuing it in the form of a direct segue to the next arc.
I gotta say, though, they don't appear too terribly altered from their original models. I mean, I knew that prior because I read the TFWiki article, but I would assume that if they appeared on the show, there'd be a bit more simplifying to match the change in animation style. That is, if they show up at all.
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2015 @ 11:38pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, I won't. It came out of nowhere without warning, hastily switching from a plot surrounding the development of Synthetic Energon that was just getting underway before it was abruptly interrupted by some apocalyptic prophecy that everyone (except us viewers) was somehow already aware of as though an episode had been skipped in the meantime or something... whereas this show at least has had Optimus drop a few hints of something forthcoming every now and then. And yet, those hints were too far and few as to properly build up this season finale that much better.PrymeStriker wrote:Give the Prime Unicron arc some credit,One episode, you mean. He got one episode of building up to his debut, while the other three had his presence exposed and expressed with no more lead-in (as they really couldn't build up to him anymore since he was already around by that point).PrymeStriker wrote:they built up his presence over four episodes,What, by saying his name in passing in the rare instances of explaining the Dark Energon's reputation? That's even less than what this show's season has done since RID has at least let us know that something is coming, whereas Prime never even hinted at the idea of Unicron coming prior to episode 23.PrymeStriker wrote:molded his lore and importance through the season a little bit better than this series,
Well, you don't have to spell out that an impending doom is coming for it to be "built up." Viewers made the connection between a crapton of relics gravitating to earth like a magnet and Dark Energon's constant use to Unicron's presence on Earth. The recurring theme of season one, and into the next seasons, is an underlying question of "why is everything here, on Earth?" "Why are Cybertron and Earth so closely bonded?" "What's so important about this planet?" In the end, we find that out without them having to constantly shove the question up our nose. That just gets annoying after a while. For example, Optimus literally showed up last episode to say "oh, by the way, something's coming and I don't know what it is, kkthxbai."
It's like a lot of the later Doctor Who arcs that they shoved down our throat to lead nowhere. "He will knock four times" every half hour, "silence will fall when the question is asked" every 10 minutes, etc. Earlier arcs, however, were subtle and lead into the finale leaning on the expectation that the viewer figured out the clues and plot points themselves. Sure, every so often they'd be like "what is Bad Wolf?" "What's Torchwood?" "How does a planet just disappear?" but most of the time, you had to look for the thread. Bad Wolf written in German on a "bomb" or spray painted on the TARDIS, creatures casually stating in conversation that they're here because their home world is "lost." For me, those are the stronger forms of moving your arc along.
Was the Dark Energon/Unicron arc perfect? No. But it had the right pacing and the right plot threads to connect to what the season finale was intended to reveal. Not that Unicron was the big mean bad guy of the season all along, that wasn't the priority. It revealed Earth's significance to Cybertronian lore and its long history with its sister planet, a question we were asking throughout the series, in the beginning of the series, and frankly, throughout a lot of the franchise as a whole.
That's irrelevant to the point I was making, which was in regards to the story contents that precede, not succeed, the finale.PrymeStriker wrote:and had it segue directly into the second season and its story arc.
I would think that the events that precede it are just as important as those that succeed it, especially depending on if you're hastily wrapping up your story at the last minute or intending on continuing it in the form of a direct segue to the next arc.
I gotta say, though, they don't appear too terribly altered from their original models. I mean, I knew that prior because I read the TFWiki article, but I would assume that if they appeared on the show, there'd be a bit more simplifying to match the change in animation style. That is, if they show up at all.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696241)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 12:02am CDT
This show has tried doing that with Optimus's warnings, but they were so far and few that there needs to be more to them.
As far as Prime was concerned, the stuff we got after the first finale was certainly better than what we got before, but that isn't doing the "before" stuff any favors.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 12:02am CDT
Except, if they want us to know that something is coming, they need to actually let us know that it's coming before it happens, preferably before the episode immediately before it comes.PrymeStriker wrote:Well, you don't have to spell out that an impending doom is coming for it to be "built up."
This show has tried doing that with Optimus's warnings, but they were so far and few that there needs to be more to them.
That was all in season 2, not season 1.PrymeStriker wrote:Viewers made the connection between a crapton of relics gravitating to earth like a magnet
Constant? It was only used in the pilot and a couple of midseason episodes prior to the last four. Episodes 1-5 and 13-15. That's 8 out of 22 episodes, with a big gap of another 8 episodes in between the two groups, followed then by another gap of 7 episodes before the inale. It was literally only in the very beginning, very middle, and very end of the season that Dark Energon was plot-relevant, with all of the rest of the meat of the season devoted to anything but Dark Energon.PrymeStriker wrote:and Dark Energon's constant use
I don't think we watched the same season 1, since the only questions being asked that the finale answered was "What is Dark Energon doing erupting from Earth when all previous stockpiles of it originated from outer space?"PrymeStriker wrote:The recurring theme of season one, and into the next seasons, is an underlying question of "why is everything here, on Earth?" "Why are Cybertron and Earth so closely bonded?" "What's so important about this planet?" In the end, we find that out without them having to constantly shove the question up our nose.
That's a genuine issue I raise in that, while we do get hints from Optimus like that in this show, we need a greater presence to them that what we've gotten so far.PrymeStriker wrote:That just gets annoying after a while. For example, Optimus literally showed up last episode to say "oh, by the way, something's coming and I don't know what it is, kkthxbai."
Well, I can't talk about the succeeding events right now because I don't know what's to come after the finale, so I'm only going by what's known to come before the finale and am critiquing just the preluding material by itself as is.PrymeStriker wrote:I would think that the events that precede it are just as important as those that succeed it, especially depending on if you're hastily wrapping up your story at the last minute or intending on continuing it in the form of a direct segue to the next arc.
As far as Prime was concerned, the stuff we got after the first finale was certainly better than what we got before, but that isn't doing the "before" stuff any favors.
The artist just drew the Prime models straight up. While the comics and show are going to be set in basically the same continuity, the two aren't going to be so tightly knit as to make us expect something from the comics to affect the cartoon or vice-versa.PrymeStriker wrote:I gotta say, though, they don't appear too terribly altered from their original models. I mean, I knew that prior because I read the TFWiki article, but I would assume that if they appeared on the show, there'd be a bit more simplifying to match the change in animation style. That is, if they show up at all.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696341)
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 9th, 2015 @ 8:19am CDT
I'm referring to Metal Attraction, TMI (Stronger, Faster as a result), Deus Ex Machina, and Scraplets, all of which dealt with something from Cybertron, mostly relics, ending up on Earth.
With the episodes I've mentioned above and their threads, it makes 13 out of 22 episodes relating to the revelation at the end of season one. It's a loose story arc, especially compared to the second and third seasons, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Tighter arcs are generally better and more coherent, and probably would have benefited the first season, but we weren't entitled to it. The first season was still enjoyable for the smaller arcs going on and the episodes individually. And when it comes down to it, I personally didn't think or feel like I was missing anything by "One Shall Fall." I understood the concepts that they were trying to connect Unicron to without knowing he was going to be a threat.
In the same token, I can agree that the way they built it up in "One Shall Fall," they suggest that the Autobots (and Decepticons) knew something was coming all along. They certainly didn't act like it, and a result, that episode felt rushed as far as character anticipation was concerned. The problem, however, sort of lies on that one episode for jumping right into a plot the characters supposedly knew about. In that case, I compare it to the pilot of this series. The first episode was rushed to holy hell. All of our main characters ended up on Earth rather quickly and were bunched together in a blink of an eye, and before you could stop for breath, an impending doom was set upon Crown City. While the second episode had better pacing as a relief, the deux ex machina resolve didn't leave much to be satisfied with. With the Prime season finale, the lead-in episode rushed us right into the plot like with RID's part 1, but the rest of the finale's pacing was fine, and in contrast, the resolve wasn't contrived and had time to be thought out and achieved.
This was due to there being more episodes to explain and move the story along. The pilot wasn't made for two episodes. The story should have spanned across three, but they shoved it into two. I only fear the same thing for RID's finale. While Prime's build up was loose, the finale paced itself. I doubt RID is going to pace its own finale even with all the hint dropping, especially not in 44 minutes.
Well, as far as tighter arcs are concerned, that is.
Well, I do hope we see them and Ratchet next season, as it would be a nice reunion. Though, I wonder what Smokescreen and Wheeljack are up to?
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 9th, 2015 @ 8:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That was all in season 2, not season 1.PrymeStriker wrote:Viewers made the connection between a crapton of relics gravitating to earth like a magnet
I'm referring to Metal Attraction, TMI (Stronger, Faster as a result), Deus Ex Machina, and Scraplets, all of which dealt with something from Cybertron, mostly relics, ending up on Earth.
Constant? It was only used in the pilot and a couple of midseason episodes prior to the last four. Episodes 1-5 and 13-15. That's 8 out of 22 episodes, with a big gap of another 8 episodes in between the two groups, followed then by another gap of 7 episodes before the inale. It was literally only in the very beginning, very middle, and very end of the season that Dark Energon was plot-relevant, with all of the rest of the meat of the season devoted to anything but Dark Energon.PrymeStriker wrote:and Dark Energon's constant use
With the episodes I've mentioned above and their threads, it makes 13 out of 22 episodes relating to the revelation at the end of season one. It's a loose story arc, especially compared to the second and third seasons, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Tighter arcs are generally better and more coherent, and probably would have benefited the first season, but we weren't entitled to it. The first season was still enjoyable for the smaller arcs going on and the episodes individually. And when it comes down to it, I personally didn't think or feel like I was missing anything by "One Shall Fall." I understood the concepts that they were trying to connect Unicron to without knowing he was going to be a threat.
In the same token, I can agree that the way they built it up in "One Shall Fall," they suggest that the Autobots (and Decepticons) knew something was coming all along. They certainly didn't act like it, and a result, that episode felt rushed as far as character anticipation was concerned. The problem, however, sort of lies on that one episode for jumping right into a plot the characters supposedly knew about. In that case, I compare it to the pilot of this series. The first episode was rushed to holy hell. All of our main characters ended up on Earth rather quickly and were bunched together in a blink of an eye, and before you could stop for breath, an impending doom was set upon Crown City. While the second episode had better pacing as a relief, the deux ex machina resolve didn't leave much to be satisfied with. With the Prime season finale, the lead-in episode rushed us right into the plot like with RID's part 1, but the rest of the finale's pacing was fine, and in contrast, the resolve wasn't contrived and had time to be thought out and achieved.
This was due to there being more episodes to explain and move the story along. The pilot wasn't made for two episodes. The story should have spanned across three, but they shoved it into two. I only fear the same thing for RID's finale. While Prime's build up was loose, the finale paced itself. I doubt RID is going to pace its own finale even with all the hint dropping, especially not in 44 minutes.
As far as Prime was concerned, the stuff we got after the first finale was certainly better than what we got before, but that isn't doing the "before" stuff any favors.
Well, as far as tighter arcs are concerned, that is.
The artist just drew the Prime models straight up. While the comics and show are going to be set in basically the same continuity, the two aren't going to be so tightly knit as to make us expect something from the comics to affect the cartoon or vice-versa.
Well, I do hope we see them and Ratchet next season, as it would be a nice reunion. Though, I wonder what Smokescreen and Wheeljack are up to?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696355)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 8:35am CDT
Thing is, though, you're Transformers-savvy. You're familiar with and used to the kinds of stuff that was going on at the time that that episode came about, whereas a new viewer with less experience than yourself would be more likely to be confused about what was going on when that episode started, since the previous two episodes had just begun a new plot thread about Synthetic Energon, only for this one to come along and begin en medias res with a completely different plot about some prophecy that's already underway and had everyone at the Autobot base (humans included) fully aware of its happening, with no proper segue of any kind to lead into it going in.PrymeStriker wrote:And when it comes down to it, I personally didn't think or feel like I was missing anything by "One Shall Fall." I understood the concepts that they were trying to connect Unicron to without knowing he was going to be a threat.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696394)
Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:16am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:16am CDT
Does anyone here have a screenshot of a future episode of what Nightstrike`s official alt-mode will be like in the series?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696395)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT
No.psj333 wrote:Does anyone here have a screenshot of a future episode of what Nightstrike`s official alt-mode will be like in the series?
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Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
That`s fine, Sabrablade. But anytime, if you find any of them, please post them up for everyone to see. I am quite anxious to see what Nightstrike`s official alt-mode will be like.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:56am CDT
Or, you could just wait for the rest of the show to air, like the rest of us are doing.psj333 wrote:That`s fine, Sabrablade. But anytime, if you find any of them, please post them up for everyone to see. I am quite anxious to see what Nightstrike`s official alt-mode will be like.
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Posted by Madeus Prime on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:16am CDT
As Sabrblade stated above, you're going to just have to wait and see like all of us. Despite the fact you think we know everything, what we say about this stuff, it's purely theoretical and conjecture as to what we see in front of us. And there's always the chance that we never will know some of the things you've asked us, and if you want real answers, ask the writers and designers at Hasbro about this stuff. And obviously, if a vehicle mode pic turned up for any Decepticon character, it'll be posted here, there is no need to ask.
Posted by Madeus Prime on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:16am CDT
psj333 wrote:That`s fine, Sabrablade. But anytime, if you find any of them, please post them up for everyone to see. I am quite anxious to see what Nightstrike`s official alt-mode will be like.
As Sabrblade stated above, you're going to just have to wait and see like all of us. Despite the fact you think we know everything, what we say about this stuff, it's purely theoretical and conjecture as to what we see in front of us. And there's always the chance that we never will know some of the things you've asked us, and if you want real answers, ask the writers and designers at Hasbro about this stuff. And obviously, if a vehicle mode pic turned up for any Decepticon character, it'll be posted here, there is no need to ask.
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Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:35am CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:35am CDT
Madeus Prime, we know that we are all waiting for future episodes to be posted online on dailymotion.com. But since Nightstrike hssn`t transformed yet in the series, I am quite curious to know what vehicle mode does Nightstrike have, no matter what. That`s what I`m most concerned about. Either we wait for the episodes, or we`ll find out at Botcon 2015.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:44am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:44am CDT
We definitely won't find out at BotCon since Hasbro Studios isn't going to have a panel there.psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, we know that we are all waiting for future episodes to be posted online on dailymotion.com. But since Nightstrike hssn`t transformed yet in the series, I am quite curious to know what vehicle mode does Nightstrike have, no matter what. That`s what I`m most concerned about. Either we wait for the episodes, or we`ll find out at Botcon 2015.
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Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:58am CDT
Really, no TV show presence at BotCon?
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 9th, 2015 @ 11:58am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:We definitely won't find out at BotCon since Hasbro Studios isn't going to have a panel there.psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, we know that we are all waiting for future episodes to be posted online on dailymotion.com. But since Nightstrike hssn`t transformed yet in the series, I am quite curious to know what vehicle mode does Nightstrike have, no matter what. That`s what I`m most concerned about. Either we wait for the episodes, or we`ll find out at Botcon 2015.
Really, no TV show presence at BotCon?
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 12:19pm CDT
Some G1 voice actors and Animated's Derrick J. Wyatt will have panels, though.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2015 @ 12:19pm CDT
Not according to the schedule.NuclearConvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:We definitely won't find out at BotCon since Hasbro Studios isn't going to have a panel there.psj333 wrote:Madeus Prime, we know that we are all waiting for future episodes to be posted online on dailymotion.com. But since Nightstrike hssn`t transformed yet in the series, I am quite curious to know what vehicle mode does Nightstrike have, no matter what. That`s what I`m most concerned about. Either we wait for the episodes, or we`ll find out at Botcon 2015.
Really, no TV show presence at BotCon?
Some G1 voice actors and Animated's Derrick J. Wyatt will have panels, though.
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Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by psj333 on June 9th, 2015 @ 1:56pm CDT
Does that mean that Hasbro will never show up for Botcon 2015? Will they ever show up on this year's Comic-Con?
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Posted by Flashwave on June 9th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on June 9th, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
Before we get shut down, I'm gonna b honest, I never got Unicron out of Scavenger Hunt 1.0 and was quite happy with Prime's original comment about Earth having been a burial depot long before Humanity came along (Silurians? 
) We had the Dark Energon to tue to Unicron, and while I dont feel it pointed to Unicron arriving the way he dis, in hindsight hat alone mde perfect sense.
and for the Prophecy, My impression was that this was something they had HEARD of, but no one had expected to be actually true. Prime was more aware of events going on becauee the Matrix was in his ear. He others, it was like our Mayan End of the World thing two years back, excet this time it was true. From that perspective, I think it not being brought up was fine, because none of the cast were particularly superstitious. If anyone, maybe some offhand comment by Prime to Ratchet about stars and futures, but thats all I think it needed.
You better believe Hasbro will be there, they just don't talk TV. Remeber, Hasbro is in Providnce, RI. Hasbro STUDIOS is in California or somelace. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Point is, its not all one single entit in one location.
) We had the Dark Energon to tue to Unicron, and while I dont feel it pointed to Unicron arriving the way he dis, in hindsight hat alone mde perfect sense.and for the Prophecy, My impression was that this was something they had HEARD of, but no one had expected to be actually true. Prime was more aware of events going on becauee the Matrix was in his ear. He others, it was like our Mayan End of the World thing two years back, excet this time it was true. From that perspective, I think it not being brought up was fine, because none of the cast were particularly superstitious. If anyone, maybe some offhand comment by Prime to Ratchet about stars and futures, but thats all I think it needed.
psj333 wrote:Does that mean that Hasbro will never show up for Botcon 2015? Will they ever show up on this year's Comic-Con?
You better believe Hasbro will be there, they just don't talk TV. Remeber, Hasbro is in Providnce, RI. Hasbro STUDIOS is in California or somelace. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Point is, its not all one single entit in one location.
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Posted by PrymeStriker on June 9th, 2015 @ 3:08pm CDT
That's actually a good point. Don't why I didn't remember that, but that's pretty much what happened. The "prophecy" was something they'd heard of but didn't believe would come true. I do agree that an offhand comment would've worked in the finale's favor, but in the end, everything was fine.
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 9th, 2015 @ 3:08pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:and for the Prophecy, My impression was that this was something they had HEARD of, but no one had expected to be actually true. Prime was more aware of events going on becauee the Matrix was in his ear. He others, it was like our Mayan End of the World thing two years back, excet this time it was true. From that perspective, I think it not being brought up was fine, because none of the cast were particularly superstitious. If anyone, maybe some offhand comment by Prime to Ratchet about stars and futures, but thats all I think it needed.
That's actually a good point. Don't why I didn't remember that, but that's pretty much what happened. The "prophecy" was something they'd heard of but didn't believe would come true. I do agree that an offhand comment would've worked in the finale's favor, but in the end, everything was fine.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1696657)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2015 @ 1:08am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2015 @ 1:08am CDT
The prophecy's sudden relevance is what came out of nowhere. That the Autobots already knew about it since before the show began was fine. It's that they (and the humans) were already discussing it in regards to current events without it receiving any proper introduction to story.
It was as though everyone in the base was like "...So anyway, let's talk some more about this prophecy that we've already been discussing and-- Oh, hi there, viewers. Didn't see you come in, there. Sorry that we already got the plot started without ya, but feel free to stick around. *turns back to the others* So as we were saying, guys, this prophecy sure is important, isn't it...?"
When Beast Wars tried the whole Covenant prophecy thing in its final episodes, it felt less jarring there since the events being described by that show's prophecy were events that we, the audience, would have already seen happen in the previous episode, making that prophecy tie directly in with what that show had done up to that point.
This show, however, went from a cliffhanger ending with Knock Out hinting that he's going to be recreating his own batch of Synthetic Energon, directly into the middle of a completely unrelated story that had already gotten underway before the episode had even begun.
It was as though everyone in the base was like "...So anyway, let's talk some more about this prophecy that we've already been discussing and-- Oh, hi there, viewers. Didn't see you come in, there. Sorry that we already got the plot started without ya, but feel free to stick around. *turns back to the others* So as we were saying, guys, this prophecy sure is important, isn't it...?"
When Beast Wars tried the whole Covenant prophecy thing in its final episodes, it felt less jarring there since the events being described by that show's prophecy were events that we, the audience, would have already seen happen in the previous episode, making that prophecy tie directly in with what that show had done up to that point.
This show, however, went from a cliffhanger ending with Knock Out hinting that he's going to be recreating his own batch of Synthetic Energon, directly into the middle of a completely unrelated story that had already gotten underway before the episode had even begun.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1698138)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 13th, 2015 @ 6:04pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 13th, 2015 @ 6:04pm CDT
Which episode aired this morning? Was it the correct one with the Malodor/Micronus plots or the one about Clampdown?
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1699107)
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:11am CDT
Posted by MoonHelix-888 on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:11am CDT
Episodes 21 to 26 are out now.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1699117)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:24am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:24am CDT
To be more specific, they're on the Australian iTunes.MoonHelix-888 wrote:Episodes 21 to 26 are out now.
Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise Producer Adam Beechen Interview (1699122)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:32am CDT
I still haven't had time to watch all the previous batch!
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 16th, 2015 @ 9:32am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:To be more specific, they're on the Australian iTunes.MoonHelix-888 wrote:Episodes 21 to 26 are out now.
I still haven't had time to watch all the previous batch!
