Transformers Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide release date and pricing
Friday, July 24th, 2015 10:03AM CDT
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Posted by cramoptimus maximus on July 24th, 2015 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by RAR on July 24th, 2015 @ 11:23am CDT
I hate to say it but this might be the most "Compromised" design since the greenish grey MP-03, to my eyes there is more wrong with it than there is right with it.
I'd be happy enough to buy it as a $30.00 KO though or a Hasbro version if it's ever on clearance I suppose. - especially if someone makes that poor legless repair drone some tracks to sit on.
I'm not actively looking forward to it like I was Wheeljack though.
Posted by munkimus prime on July 24th, 2015 @ 12:40pm CDT
RAR wrote:I might buy this Ironhide if they make him in Black but otherwise I'd go with one of the 3rd party ones they just look nicer and have a neater transformation to them.
I hate to say it but this might be the most "Compromised" design since the greenish grey MP-03, to my eyes there is more wrong with it than there is right with it.
I'd be happy enough to buy it as a $30.00 KO though or a Hasbro version if it's ever on clearance I suppose. - especially if someone makes that poor legless repair drone some tracks to sit on.
I'm not actively looking forward to it like I was Wheeljack though.
Wait how can you comment on the Transformation when no one's seen it yet. I also don't think the 3rd party Ironhide's transformation has been shown off yet either.
Posted by Cobotron on July 24th, 2015 @ 12:58pm CDT
Don't worry, That price is just a straight conversion from yen to dollar. MP cars are averaging around $52 US converted. The price hike comes when you go through a importer like BBTS or TFSource. So the price is really right on par.cramoptimus maximus wrote:That price seems too low... Im concerned about the price because maybe it is reflective of not being much of a toy...
Posted by cramoptimus maximus on July 24th, 2015 @ 2:43pm CDT
The price may be right on, but i would pay more for more ie more quality, more diecast, rubber wheels and gimmicks...
I wished I didn't have to run out and buy kfc articulayed hands and reprolabels for all of my figures to make them all they can be... And, of course, all of that Dr Wu stuff too...
Posted by Emerje on July 24th, 2015 @ 4:27pm CDT
On the normal cars BB stands up to about mid-abs. But in this image Bee doesn't even seem to be clearing Ironhide's hips standing closer to the camera. Ironhide won't be Soundwave or Seeker size, but much larger than the other cars. Considering his size and ridiculous number of accessories there's no way he'll only be 8,000JPY, especially with Tracks at 7,500JPY.
I'm thinking much closer to 10,000JPY, maybe even 12,000JPY.
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 24th, 2015 @ 4:31pm CDT
Posted by padfoo on July 24th, 2015 @ 7:51pm CDT
Emerje wrote:No, I agree, the price does seem too low for a figure his size.
On the normal cars BB stands up to about mid-abs. But in this image Bee doesn't even seem to be clearing Ironhide's hips standing closer to the camera. Ironhide won't be Soundwave or Seeker size, but much larger than the other cars. Considering his size and ridiculous number of accessories there's no way he'll only be 8,000JPY, especially with Tracks at 7,500JPY.
I'm thinking much closer to 10,000JPY, maybe even 12,000JPY.
Emerje
The scale seems about right, although G1 scale is notoriously inconsistent!
On the other hand, I am really bothered by Ironhide's forearm in this photo, it looks like its hallow underneath. Previously I thought there was a panel there, but I don't see it now. Is it my eyes or is this poor cost cutting?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 24th, 2015 @ 8:33pm CDT
It looks instead to be one of his altmode windows instead of a hollowed out gap.padfoo wrote:On the other hand, I am really bothered by Ironhide's forearm in this photo, it looks like its hallow underneath. Previously I thought there was a panel there, but I don't see it now. Is it my eyes or is this poor cost cutting?
Posted by divineforce on July 24th, 2015 @ 8:41pm CDT
Posted by SteveGo on July 25th, 2015 @ 10:40pm CDT
divineforce wrote:badly disappointed in this designer, his is not worthy!
So...skip it.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 26th, 2015 @ 1:26am CDT
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Posted by Dorkimus on July 26th, 2015 @ 3:52am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 26th, 2015 @ 5:55am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on July 26th, 2015 @ 5:55am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:03am CDT
No matter, the very first second this dude's preorders pop up on Amiami, he'll be soooo preordered|
Posted by donny1975 on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:25am CDT
I will be getting at least one of the VooDoo figures so I can see differences in the molds...
Posted by griftimus prime on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT
Posted by budmaloney on July 26th, 2015 @ 10:20am CDT
donny1975 wrote:I am excited to getting an official Ironhide. I am a little disappointed in the hips/crotch being so large but it's ironhide, it's official, it comes with a battle sled that is not part of the vehicle, it comes with a ton of accessories, did I mention it's official. I am willing to overlook the "diaper" look for all those positives.
I will be getting at least one of the VooDoo figures so I can see differences in the molds...
To be fair, he always had the diaper look in the show.
Posted by munkimus prime on July 26th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT
Posted by megatronus on July 26th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
Sigh. I do hope my opinion changes as more production photos make their way to us.
Posted by KorbinJones on July 26th, 2015 @ 12:29pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 26th, 2015 @ 2:30pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:why dont they just show the ratchet mold too? we know its coming.
Sure about that? If they are doing Ratchet, they'll have to think of something for that red cross. Believe it or not, that logo is trademarked by, who else, the Red Cross, and they've started enforcing it in the past 10 to 15 years. Look at the recent comics, you'll see adapted symbols on both shoulders.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2015 @ 3:55pm CDT
Or is he pregnant?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2015 @ 4:19pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:griftimus prime wrote:why dont they just show the ratchet mold too? we know its coming.
Sure about that? If they are doing Ratchet, they'll have to think of something for that red cross. Believe it or not, that logo is trademarked by, who else, the Red Cross, and they've started enforcing it in the past 10 to 15 years. Look at the recent comics, you'll see adapted symbols on both shoulders.
Easy. No symbols at all, like for the reisues of the G1 toy.
And also, that what reprolabels are for!
Posted by Delicon on July 26th, 2015 @ 4:19pm CDT
Posted by Torneira on July 26th, 2015 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by huryochagi on July 26th, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT
Notice how he's supposed to have the window as chest and has lower metallic abdomen between chest and his 'diaper'.
The MP figure has the entire front covering his torso. As much as I like the Masterpiece line, I am thinking about skipping this one, like I skipped Megatron and the first seeker mold that had bad proportions and panels hanging on the legs. Luckily, they released a better seeker MP later on. I think this Ironhide is not good enough to be an MP. If only they made him fold away the lower part of the van front and make the window rectangle-shaped.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 26th, 2015 @ 5:47pm CDT
huryochagi wrote:His torso is his only problem. His head, arms and lower body are good. His window should be vertically straight, not diagonal. His window should be his chest, above his abdomen. This MP figure has the lower part of the van front where his abdomen should be. That, combined with his diagonal window make him look obese instead of buffed.
Notice how he's supposed to have the window as chest and has lower metallic abdomen between chest and his 'diaper'.
The MP figure has the entire front covering his torso. As much as I like the Masterpiece line, I am thinking about skipping this one, like I skipped Megatron and the first seeker mold that had bad proportions and panels hanging on the legs. Luckily, they released a better seeker MP later on. I think this Ironhide is not good enough to be an MP. If only they made him fold away the lower part of the van front and make the window rectangle-shaped.
While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2015 @ 5:56pm CDT
Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions
And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 26th, 2015 @ 6:13pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions
And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:
I know that, but the masterpiece line has set the precedent of using licensed vehicles. This is where the inherent problem of this figure comes into play. Unless it uses a fake window for the chest, it cannot both have a rectangular chest window and the slanted silhouette of the vw (I believe) van.
Now are there ways around this? Maybe, I dunno, like had said: use a fake window, but this might be a problem for how it was designed, I don't know how it was engineered.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2015 @ 6:23pm CDT
So, how about you guys stop splitting hair?
Posted by WheelTracks on July 26th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 26th, 2015 @ 6:47pm CDT
Next I foresee a E-Hobby or TTmall black release version ala Diacone/Encore/Bayformers black.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 26th, 2015 @ 6:57pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Because of all the TF lines out there, Masterpiece is the one that has made a name for itself for taking the cartoon's animation models and making them into super show-accurate toy forms. To see a MP deviate from that ideal is bound to catch some questionable feedback. Updated designs are what CHUG toys are for, not MPs.Hellscream9999 wrote:While I agree with the abdomen part, the chest is simply drawn wrong as compared to the real life vehicle, I don't know why people religiously judge an updated G1 figure to an old cartoon that was hastily and sloppily drawn at the best of times. Even the original Ironhide toy had the sloped window if I'm not mistaken, because that was the vehicle it was based on; that's the trade off for getting licensed vehicles, the figure must conform to the design restrictions
And as for the cartoon's inconsistencies, let us instead consult the original production model of the character's cartoon design:
I know that, but the masterpiece line has set the precedent of using licensed vehicles. This is where the inherent problem of this figure comes into play. Unless it uses a fake window for the chest, it cannot both have a rectangular chest window and the slanted silhouette of the vw (I believe) van.
Now are there ways around this? Maybe, I dunno, like had said: use a fake window, but this might be a problem for how it was designed, I don't know how it was engineered.
Japan (redundant ne?) Nissan VanetteCoach SGL was his original Dialcone vehicle mode.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:00pm CDT
SteveGo wrote:divineforce wrote:badly disappointed in this designer, his is not worthy!
So...skip it.
Ditto. A lot of experts here coming out of the woodwork
Posted by munkimus prime on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CDT
Hopefully when Ironhide gets released everybody's going to stop being such purists and see this as a decent toy but who knows maybe this toy won't be very good but I'll wait until a review has said how good/bad Ironhide is.
Posted by munkimus prime on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CDT
Hopefully when Ironhide gets released everybody's going to stop being such purists and see this as a decent toy but who knows maybe this toy won't be very good but I'll wait until a review has said how good/bad Ironhide is.
Posted by megatronus on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:49pm CDT
munkimus prime wrote:Remember how everybody was questioning MP Bumblebee because of his realistic VW Beetle mode, He turned out to be a brilliant figure. Remember Magnus, everybody was moaning about him before release. He ended up being a great figure as well. so I don't see how Ironhide will be any different.
My opinion of Bumblebee definitely turned for the better, but Magnus... I still have my reservations.
Posted by padfoo on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:55pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, who has been raking the internet to separate the multiple sources of the images, we have a new selection of angles and shots from Wonderfest 2015 in Japan, showing off the upcoming Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide! Check out below the robot mode, the battle station and an unpainted vehicle mode, from Twitter users chromless, tomet_s, the Action Robo Facebook page and Weibo user 52Toys.
Looking good! just needs to do the fist in palm pose!
Posted by padfoo on July 26th, 2015 @ 8:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It looks instead to be one of his altmode windows instead of a hollowed out gap.padfoo wrote:On the other hand, I am really bothered by Ironhide's forearm in this photo, it looks like its hallow underneath. Previously I thought there was a panel there, but I don't see it now. Is it my eyes or is this poor cost cutting?
Thanks, I see that now thanks to hires pics!
Posted by galvatron00 on July 26th, 2015 @ 8:40pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on July 26th, 2015 @ 9:42pm CDT
Posted by SteveGo on July 26th, 2015 @ 9:49pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on July 26th, 2015 @ 9:52pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on July 26th, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT
SteveGo wrote:Your Uncle is a transformer?
He sure was when he got drunk.
Posted by Gearslide on July 26th, 2015 @ 10:27pm CDT
For those interested in replicating his look in the Movie of course.
Posted by Doctor McGrath on July 26th, 2015 @ 10:44pm CDT
Posted by Stephen S. on July 27th, 2015 @ 12:01am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 27th, 2015 @ 4:01am CDT
Stephen S. wrote:
Welcome to seibertron.
Still, that's not a great way to introduce yourself.
At least, let's retry that image, shall we?