Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Revision Waves Being Restocked for the Holiday Season
Thursday, November 16th, 2017 6:19PM CST
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There is another revision wave, for wave 3, that can also be found but it is trickier to identify. It is basically the same as wave 3 but instead of having 3 Hot Rods and one Getaway it has 2 Hot Rod and 2 Getaways.
These two revision waves would explain the abundance of Twinfernos on the shelves.
Here is the case breakdown for deluxe class wave 4 revision, the wave currently being found across the US and Canada:
2x TRA GEN DELUXE AUTOBOT TWINFERNO
2x TRA GEN DELUXE TRIGGERHAPPY
2x TRA GEN DELUXE KROK
2x TRA GEN DELUXE QUAKE
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 16th, 2017 @ 6:45pm CST
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Posted by Randomhero on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:41pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
Posted by RiddlerJ on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:43pm CST
Posted by DeathReviews on November 16th, 2017 @ 7:51pm CST
Posted by YoungPrime on November 16th, 2017 @ 8:57pm CST
Randomhero wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
Hasbro's free PR has spoken......
Now back to being disappointed about Hasbro releasing more old TR waves to shelf warm until March of 2018. We can also blame Bayformers crap for getting in the way of this stuff not already being sold last Summer.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:08pm CST
Randomhero wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
That's not what I meant and you know it.
It used to be hard enough to find figures when there were four waves a year, and now it's almost 8 thanks to these revisions, none of which have a single figure people seem to be looking for (perceptor, kup, misfire, twintwist, slugslinger, etc.), which makes them superfluous, the shelfwarming leftovers are clear evidence that these figures aren't landing with common buyers or collectors, yet they keep putting them in additional revisions (twinferno, etc.)
I put to you that, had these revisions had contents along the lines of: Kup, 2 x misfire, 2 x slugslinger, and twintwist (cases come with 6 figures), we'd be in a much better spot as collectors, but, no, they're just rereleasing wave 1 ('17) over and over again
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 16th, 2017 @ 9:10pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
Hasbro's free PR has spoken......
Now back to being disappointed about Hasbro releasing more old TR waves to shelf warm until March of 2018. We can also blame Bayformers crap for getting in the way of this stuff not already being sold last Summer.
I don't blame it all; personally, releasing slash (a figure that didn't sell well first time round) alongside an underwhelming 'bee and a shiny grimlock wasn't a smart choice, in fact, I'd have skipped the repaints and just done a shorter run of figures, those stupid allspark things are neither helping, nor selling, so I also blame them
Posted by megatronus on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:00pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
That's not what I meant and you know it.
It used to be hard enough to find figures when there were four waves a year, and now it's almost 8 thanks to these revisions, none of which have a single figure people seem to be looking for (perceptor, kup, misfire, twintwist, slugslinger, etc.), which makes them superfluous, the shelfwarming leftovers are clear evidence that these figures aren't landing with common buyers or collectors, yet they keep putting them in additional revisions (twinferno, etc.)
I put to you that, had these revisions had contents along the lines of: Kup, 2 x misfire, 2 x slugslinger, and twintwist (cases come with 6 figures), we'd be in a much better spot as collectors, but, no, they're just rereleasing wave 1 ('17) over and over again
If you don't want to be mocked, use proper nouns and proper words. Seems simple enough.
Posted by william-james88 on November 16th, 2017 @ 10:38pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't blame it all; personally, releasing slash (a figure that didn't sell well first time round) alongside an underwhelming 'bee and a shiny grimlock wasn't a smart choice, in fact, I'd have skipped the repaints and just done a shorter run of figures, those stupid allspark things are neither helping, nor selling, so I also blame them
Sadly, I believe that underwhelming Bee redeco is the best selling TF of 2017.
Posted by Lucky Logician on November 17th, 2017 @ 12:56am CST
Randomhero wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:f^&*ing f#$% hasblo, I swear we wouldn't have half as hard a time finding figures if hasbro just stopped with all these damn revisions
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make more money with releasing stuff by the demand of the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you know we fully grown functional adults who play with toys just want the newest stuff!
Here... lemnme fix that for ya.
Yeah how dare this company who’s primary goal is to make money make less money in the long run by releasing stuff no one demanded more of because all these figures are already shelf-warming in the stores.
Shame on you Hasbro. Shame on you. Don’t you employ fully grown functional adults who understand that stores won't buy more toys if their shelves are littered with the same stuff that no one is buying!
Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.
Posted by Emerje on November 17th, 2017 @ 1:32am CST
Lucky Logician wrote:Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.
Yeah, I can basically count on finding either Hot Rod, Triggerhappy, or Twinferno just about everywhere around here. All thanks to wave 3 and wave 6 being the only things stocked around here.
Emerje
Posted by Megatron Wolf on November 17th, 2017 @ 1:58am CST
Posted by King Kuuga on November 17th, 2017 @ 6:23am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 17th, 2017 @ 8:57am CST
Emerje wrote:Lucky Logician wrote:Seriously, who was begging for more Twinferno? I see at least 3-4 of him at every store nearby. And usually 1-2 Triggerhappy as well.
Yeah, I can basically count on finding either Hot Rod, Triggerhappy, or Twinferno just about everywhere around here. All thanks to wave 3 and wave 6 being the only things stocked around here.
Emerje
This, this is the problem, if these revisions weren't a thing, we'd all likely be swimming in misfire's twintwist's, slugslinger's and potp figures at this point, instead of shelfwarming garbage like hotrod and twinferno...
Posted by o.supreme on November 17th, 2017 @ 9:50am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 17th, 2017 @ 10:09am CST
King Kuuga wrote:Man it's almost as if, and this is crazy but hear me out, Hasbro is doing the same thing they always do by releasing a wave of new figures and then a revision case that mixes some older figures back in or adjusts the ratio. But due to all the stores ordering an abundance for the holidays last year that happened to be the wave 2 revision, which turned out to be more than would move at an effective rate (especially during the slow part of the year), when they did wind up ordering more it was at the time when Hasbro was shipping out revision cases, not Hasbro deliberately shorting them. NOVEL.
I think people would be more welcoming of revision waves if it included repacks they needed. For instance, I dont think anyone minded Wolfwire being repacked.
I am surprised to see no one care for Quake or Krok though, from what I read on other sites it seemed an atrocity to have them short packed and people thought they would never find them at retail. So I dont know why them being plentiful now is so bad. I do understand the hate at seeing Twinferno. While the US had to wait months for wave 3 saturation, the fact that 2 revision waves include him is not the brightest move.
o.supreme wrote:Hi I'm Windblade, yo! HelloOOO!!!! the one way on the back! Is anyone listening to me?
for what its worth however, at least Canada got some wave 5 so far...
Haha yes, but she's all that is left. We had a bunch of wave 5 for a while, then one case of wave 6 (which sold quite well since it had Kup, which is still sought after) but now its revision waves.
Oh and I know this is kind of thread cross pollination but with POTP first appearing in California, we now have further evidence of the trend of toys being found in the west first, nearer to the western ports.
Posted by o.supreme on November 17th, 2017 @ 10:31am CST
william-james88 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:Man it's almost as if, and this is crazy but hear me out, Hasbro is doing the same thing they always do by releasing a wave of new figures and then a revision case that mixes some older figures back in or adjusts the ratio. But due to all the stores ordering an abundance for the holidays last year that happened to be the wave 2 revision, which turned out to be more than would move at an effective rate (especially during the slow part of the year), when they did wind up ordering more it was at the time when Hasbro was shipping out revision cases, not Hasbro deliberately shorting them. NOVEL.
I think people would be more welcoming of revision waves if it included repacks they needed. For instance, I dont think anyone minded Wolfwire being repacked.
I am surprised to see no one care for Quake or Krok though, from what I read on other sites it seemed an atrocity to have them short packed and people thought they would never find them at retail. So I dont know why them being plentiful now is so bad. I do understand the hate at seeing Twinferno. While the US had to wait months for wave 3 saturation, the fact that 2 revision waves include him is not the brightest move.
I'm not really a big into characters popularized by IDW, so Krok & Quake were an easy pass for me. As for the distribution of PotP. While I do feel fortunate to have seen them a couple days after the news broke on Saturday 11/12, the PotP have seemingly been sighted equally distributed all over, including larger east Coast locations such as New York & Florida.
Maybe it has something to do with how much a particular store sells, and what they order? PotP hit Targets on both coasts, but I'm sure a good chunk of the middle continent hasn't seen them yet. Heck I was in Cedar City Utah at the end of September, and (no joke) they still had a CW Leader Armada Megatron (along with 3 Sixshots) in their Walmart.
I mean it would make sense that they would hit all the larger cities stores first, but that's why the conundrum...I consider myself to live in a fairly largely populated area, and sometimes we don't see things for several months until after many other places have already got them.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 17th, 2017 @ 11:35am CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't blame it all; personally, releasing slash (a figure that didn't sell well first time round) alongside an underwhelming 'bee and a shiny grimlock wasn't a smart choice, in fact, I'd have skipped the repaints and just done a shorter run of figures, those stupid allspark things are neither helping, nor selling, so I also blame them
Sadly, I believe that underwhelming Bee redeco is the best selling TF of 2017.
In your area, yep. Here, he is the one left on 2 stores shelves minus Slash. Barricade and Berserker are pretty much gone finally, but Bee and Slash still stand here.
Also, I finally got all the stickers on Trypticon. I really want Hasbro to not do the titan sticker sheets again, please. They take so long, which isn't that big a deal, but the stickers I got were of poor quality. I had several rip in half or peel the back paper with them so I had to keep picking at them to actually get to the sticky part. These stickers were of a noticeable lower quality
Posted by Rysquad on November 17th, 2017 @ 12:58pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Here is the case breakdown for deluxe class wave 4 revision, the wave currently being found across the US and Canada:
2x TRA GEN DELUXE AUTOBOT TWINFERNO
2x TRA GEN DELUXE TRIGGERHAPPY
2x TRA GEN DELUXE KROK
2x TRA GEN DELUXE QUAKE
yeah this is likely what I'm seeing at my local Targets and TRUs.
Posted by bodrock on November 17th, 2017 @ 1:18pm CST
I won't give up on Misfire until TR is dead.
Posted by Kroenen on November 17th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CST
Posted by megatronus on November 17th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by Lucky Logician on November 17th, 2017 @ 4:01pm CST
King Kuuga wrote:Man it's almost as if, and this is crazy but hear me out, Hasbro is doing the same thing they always do by releasing a wave of new figures and then a revision case that mixes some older figures back in or adjusts the ratio. But due to all the stores ordering an abundance for the holidays last year that happened to be the wave 2 revision, which turned out to be more than would move at an effective rate (especially during the slow part of the year), when they did wind up ordering more it was at the time when Hasbro was shipping out revision cases, not Hasbro deliberately shorting them. NOVEL.
So what you're telling me is that this is 100% Hasbro's fault, right?
Hasbro should know by now when retailers are going to stock up for the holidays. So instead of preparing a wave revision of popular toys that would sell well to kids (and adults), they had a wave full figures no one wants.
No offense to people who like these four figures, but none of them seem like good Xmas toys. Twinferno is not appealing for adults to buy for a kid (I don't know if little Billy wants a two-headed dragon). Triggerhappy and Quake have boring color schemes. Krok is the opposite with 90's neon yellow. Those three don't look as appealing as nearby toys on the shelf.
A better wave would maybe include Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, Kup, or Hot Rod.
Posted by william-james88 on November 17th, 2017 @ 5:25pm CST
megatronus wrote:Quake is an amazing deco on a mediocre toy. Love Quake.
Aye Aye!
Posted by Sigma Magnus on November 17th, 2017 @ 5:27pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 17th, 2017 @ 9:23pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I am surprised to see no one care for Quake or Krok though, from what I read on other sites it seemed an atrocity to have them short packed and people thought they would never find them at retail. So I dont know why them being plentiful now is so bad. I do understand the hate at seeing Twinferno.
I think this is part of the problem. Yeah, some of us want Quake and Krok, but I don't know if there's anywhere in the US that had actual saturation of Deluxe wave 4 which also leaves us looking for Kup, Perceptor, and Top Spin. Revision wave 4 should have been like revision wave 3 and rebalance the ratio while keeping the characters unchanged. Instead they give us the short packed guys and two guys from wave 3 that haven't been rare for the past year and still clogging the pegs.
While the US had to wait months for wave 3 saturation
Wrong wave 3. TM, Legend, Voyager, and Leader wave 3 cases took forever to come out here, but Deluxe wave 3 started hitting saturation an entire year ago last November. Before Christmas last year the two local Walmarts had no less than six cases each, most of them piled up on the top shelf because wave 2 was already packing the shelves. Target didn't have as many visible, but they were staying in stock at the time.
Anyway, revision wave 4 hit my local Target sometime this week. All that was left was a single Krok (got one at a Target out of town last weekend) with the rest of the two pegs consisting Triggerhappy (almost an entire peg worth), Hot Rod, and a single Breakaway because wave 3 wont go away. I still need a Quake.
I did find a Blitzwing and Octane there. I snapped up Blitzing because I like the G1 toy look, but passed on Octane because I have the Takara Tomy version on order.
Oh, and TRU FINALLY SHIPPED MY TWO ARCEES!! I honestly didn't expect this to actually happen, I was sure they were going to cancel it after 30 days.
Emerje
Posted by Evil Eye on November 18th, 2017 @ 8:00am CST
megatronus wrote:Quake is an amazing deco on a mediocre toy. Love Quake.
Wait, people didn't like Hardhead? I thought he was pretty stellar aside from his lack of a waist swivel.
Posted by bodrock on November 18th, 2017 @ 11:24am CST
Posted by ThunderThruster on November 18th, 2017 @ 11:48am CST
Krok on the other hand does diddle-squat for me. While I like the mold as Skullchruncher, I can't abide it as Krok.
Posted by Emerje on November 18th, 2017 @ 12:03pm CST
Emerje
Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on November 18th, 2017 @ 4:52pm CST
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 18th, 2017 @ 5:28pm CST
For those that need a refresher, Arcee is said to have the following features:
Includes Deluxe Class Arcee figure, Titan Master Leinad figure, die-cast Titan Master Ultra Magnus figure, 2 blaster accessories, 2 collector cards with tech specs, and instructions.
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on November 18th, 2017 @ 9:09pm CST
With some silver paint and glued-on kibble from bayformers, could this be the beginning of an Amalgamous Prime?
Posted by Skritz on November 18th, 2017 @ 9:22pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 18th, 2017 @ 9:37pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 18th, 2017 @ 10:43pm CST
"HTC" is probably Hasbro Transformers Club I would think. So does that make Grotusque number 2?
(edit) Did a little search, apparently this is also how Hasbro labeled their images for Arcee in their initial press release for her. It's interesting that TRU would hold onto that same exact designation in their computers.
Emerje
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on November 18th, 2017 @ 11:53pm CST
Skritz wrote:Well, if you're interested in a more 'coherent' idea and design to an Amalgamous Prime custom you may want to look at the color scheme and design of Adaptus.
Sabrblade wrote:Personally, I'd think Car Robots Gigatron/RiD 2001 Megatron would make for a more functional Amalgamous Prime base what with just how fluid that mold is in assuming a tremendous amount of modes.
Thank you both for the excellent ideas! Due to Amalgamous's colors and Sixshot's dimensions, the custom would probably resemble Adaptus anyway. That said, my plan of grafting on kibble to add more modes might result in something messier. Adaptus's look is a really great target to aim for. While Gigatron is undoubtedly a better poly-changer, I wanted Amalgamous to really tower over TR Alpha Trion. Sixshot is also very cheap for his size, despite his blocky style. Again, thank you!
Posted by King Kuuga on November 19th, 2017 @ 2:05pm CST
Lucky Logician wrote:King Kuuga wrote:Man it's almost as if, and this is crazy but hear me out, Hasbro is doing the same thing they always do by releasing a wave of new figures and then a revision case that mixes some older figures back in or adjusts the ratio. But due to all the stores ordering an abundance for the holidays last year that happened to be the wave 2 revision, which turned out to be more than would move at an effective rate (especially during the slow part of the year), when they did wind up ordering more it was at the time when Hasbro was shipping out revision cases, not Hasbro deliberately shorting them. NOVEL.
So what you're telling me is that this is 100% Hasbro's fault, right?
Absolutely not, because you're missing an important point.
Hasbro should know by now when retailers are going to stock up for the holidays. So instead of preparing a wave revision of popular toys that would sell well to kids (and adults), they had a wave full figures no one wants.
What retailer starts stocking for the Christmas season in March? Sometime in Spring is about the time this assortment would have been made available for retailers to purchase. It was not intended to stay on shelves until Winter, the actual winter assortment is wave 6..... which consists of 3 Slugslingers, 2 Hot Rods, 2 Kups, and a Hardhead so maybe not a great assortment there either. If there's a revision case for that wave I don't see it.
Anyway, the problem with TR is that retailers ordered too much of the wave 2 revision, which moved slow, and then incremental amounts of the other waves until they apparently ordered a bulk of wave 4, which has been slow to sell. As far as I can determine, blame still lies with Walmart and Target's people.
No offense to people who like these four figures, but none of them seem like good Xmas toys. Twinferno is not appealing for adults to buy for a kid (I don't know if little Billy wants a two-headed dragon). Triggerhappy and Quake have boring color schemes. Krok is the opposite with 90's neon yellow. Those three don't look as appealing as nearby toys on the shelf.
Okay, hold up. What kid wouldn't go gaga for a two-headed dragon?
(so as to not stereotype I'm sure there are plenty of them)
It is a very appealing idea for kids and kids-at-heart.
Triggerhappy looks cool but lacks name value or intrinsic knowledge of how good of a toy he is. Quake I agree looks boring. Krok I could see going either way. But again, this wasn't meant to be the Christmas wave.
A better wave would maybe include Weirdwolf, Mindwipe, Kup, or Hot Rod.
Weirdwolf and Mindwipe were part of last year's Christmas assortment, Hot Rod has been plentiful all year, and Kup is, IMO, one of the more boring and least appealing figures of the line if you don't know who he is. I'm not going to try to come up with a better assortment but I do disagree with yours.
Posted by Insurgent on November 19th, 2017 @ 4:57pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 19th, 2017 @ 6:03pm CST
It appears that those who were able to order fine the second time round, are now receiving the figure, according to confirmation emails (such as the one below, from Twincaster megatronus).
Thank you for shopping at Toysrus.com and Babiesrus.com. We are happy to report that the following item(s) have shipped!
Please note: If there is an item(s) in your order that was not shipped at this time, we will notify you via email as soon as it is shipped.
Here is a review of your shipped order:
Item: 26636384
Description: Transformers Titans Return Arcee Action Figure Set
Quantity: 2 @ $24.99
Status: Shipped via: FedEx Ground
We were also informed of the figure's availability on both the main TRU site (as first reported here) and their eBay page - both with limited stock, but still up there at the time of writing. If you missed out, or are looking for a friend, now is the time to do so. Happy hunting!
Posted by Rysquad on November 19th, 2017 @ 7:18pm CST
Posted by The_Cryptid_Person on November 19th, 2017 @ 8:17pm CST
Insurgent wrote:Anyone else find their legend Brawn really stiff to move his head? I think mine is finally starting to loosen up, but it still takes a lot of effort to move.
Absolutely! It's pretty ironic in a line where most of the other characters' heads rip off.
Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2017 @ 8:27pm CST
Emerje
Posted by Deadput on November 19th, 2017 @ 11:50pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 20th, 2017 @ 12:08am CST
Deadput wrote:Is there any place I could get this from Canada?
No, these are mainly US exclusives for the time being.
Canadians have been buying from Robot Kingdom:
http://www.robotkingdom.com/c3542as00.html
http://www.robotkingdom.com/c3541as00.html
Posted by Deadput on November 20th, 2017 @ 12:17am CST
william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:Is there any place I could get this from Canada?
No, these are mainly US exclusives for the time being.
Canadians have been buying from Robot Kingdom:
http://www.robotkingdom.com/c3542as00.html
http://www.robotkingdom.com/c3541as00.html
Thanks Will I've been behind when it comes to Transformers purchases although now I have my first credit card and for the time been besides replacing a broken tv I'm not doing anything with it.
Is there also any way to get Terribull? He is the only small Titan master besides Ramhorn I don't have and on Amazon.ca it's only an add on item with everything else being overpriced.
Posted by King Kuuga on November 20th, 2017 @ 12:56am CST
Repugnus is nice but he really only has one good mode, his monster mode. The vehicle and gun are underwhelming. But at least when Grotusque (hopefully) goes up for sale again, I'll be ready.
Posted by Deadput on November 20th, 2017 @ 1:00am CST
For right now it's his "pre monster" form in my collection.